Osie's 18th Circle of Hell Game Thread - Day 4

[Chihiro]

im waiting for owl to imply they have something on them preventing them from saying certain stuff

[OwlsWriteLetters]

@OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

This is too vague
please answer the questions fully

Oh no

Anyways

if you are actually town now, what's stopping you from elaborating on your previous role?

I don't know if it's advantageous to or not, tbh, and i don't have the willpower to dig through enough mechanics to make an educated guess

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Aside from Kiiruma, looking at DKkoba's slot would also make sense (altho maybe not when Math subbed in). Dkkoba's lack of interest showed that he looked more informed than anyone else and it the same with Math who tried to get us out of mech and into social reads where anyone could be lying. There is support for this theory.

I thought that slot was dead dead ?

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Ok, now you should explain

To you?

Yes

No thank you

I see, you have no reason

[TownMisleaders]

I believe that in the first world town is actually the uninformed majority and are told as such. mafia is the informed minority and are also told this

however, in the second world / core roles, whatever you want to call it, mafia is the uninformed majority and town is the informed minority

this is why no one has claimed mafia as their first alignment, and also why no one has claimed town as their core role

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Ok, now you should explain

To you?

Yes

No thank you

I see, you have no reason

I've actually already said why but there's no point in trying to convince you that you should be voted out lol

[TownMisleaders]

@OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

This is too vague
please answer the questions fully

Oh no

Anyways

if you are actually town now, what's stopping you from elaborating on your previous role?

I don't know if it's advantageous to or not, tbh, and i don't have the willpower to dig through enough mechanics to make an educated guess

tf do you mean you don't know if it's advantageous

if mafia in the first world was actually a scum faction, we need to know this information

[ATNoLeafia]

Aside from Kiiruma, looking at DKkoba's slot would also make sense (altho maybe not when Math subbed in). Dkkoba's lack of interest showed that he looked more informed than anyone else and it the same with Math who tried to get us out of mech and into social reads where anyone could be lying. There is support for this theory.

I thought that slot was dead dead ?

It is dead dead, but their flips may help us solve this setup.

[OwlsWriteLetters]

I believe that in the first world town is actually the uninformed majority and are told as such. mafia is the informed minority and are also told this

however, in the second world / core roles, whatever you want to call it, mafia is the uninformed majority and town is the informed minority

this is why no one has claimed mafia as their first alignment, and also why no one has claimed town as their core role

Mafia was not an informed minority in the first world

[OwlsWriteLetters]

@OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

This is too vague
please answer the questions fully

Oh no

Anyways

if you are actually town now, what's stopping you from elaborating on your previous role?

I don't know if it's advantageous to or not, tbh, and i don't have the willpower to dig through enough mechanics to make an educated guess

tf do you mean you don't know if it's advantageous

if mafia in the first world was actually a scum faction, we need to know this information

....I already said they weren't? Literally in this quote chain dude

[ATNoLeafia]

Clearly, non-core mafia were the uninformed minority.

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Aside from Kiiruma, looking at DKkoba's slot would also make sense (altho maybe not when Math subbed in). Dkkoba's lack of interest showed that he looked more informed than anyone else and it the same with Math who tried to get us out of mech and into social reads where anyone could be lying. There is support for this theory.

I thought that slot was dead dead ?

It is dead dead, but their flips may help us solve this setup.

Ah ok, sorry I misunderstood what you were saying!

[OwlsWriteLetters]

First world mafia was us and zone, we were essentially survivors. We submitted night kills that afaik had zero effect, and our wincon was a survivor/possibly town wincon. I do not remember what NKs were submitted, just that they didn't die iirc.

[TownMisleaders]

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

This is too vague
please answer the questions fully

Oh no

Anyways

if you are actually town now, what's stopping you from elaborating on your previous role?

I don't know if it's advantageous to or not, tbh, and i don't have the willpower to dig through enough mechanics to make an educated guess

tf do you mean you don't know if it's advantageous

if mafia in the first world was actually a scum faction, we need to know this information

....I already said they weren't? Literally in this quote chain dude

can you please just claim what you had in your previous role, and what your wincon was
i literally dont understand what benefit you gain from witholding this information since it is no longer your role
all you are doing is preventing us from understanding the game

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Idk if it's a good idea to reveal that or not, hopefully it is

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:



Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Ok, now you should explain

To you?

Yes

No thank you

I see, you have no reason

I've actually already said why but there's no point in trying to convince you that you should be voted out lol

Your "explanation" is insufficient, I don't care if you vote for me, I care about your thinking process, so please rephrase it

[TownMisleaders]

First world mafia was us and zone, we were essentially survivors. We submitted night kills that afaik had zero effect, and our wincon was a survivor/possibly town wincon. I do not remember what NKs were submitted, just that they didn't die iirc.

wtf lmao

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Our wincon was to eliminate any/all factions that were a threat to us, have literally said that already

[ATNoLeafia]

First world mafia was us and zone, we were essentially survivors. We submitted night kills that afaik had zero effect, and our wincon was a survivor/possibly town wincon. I do not remember what NKs were submitted, just that they didn't die iirc.

wtf lmao

umm lol. Well, rip Zone in N4.

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Ok, now you should explain

To you?

Yes

No thank you

I see, you have no reason

I've actually already said why but there's no point in trying to convince you that you should be voted out lol

Your "explanation" is insufficient, I don't care if you vote for me, I care about your thinking process, so please rephrase it

I am totally uninterested in this conversation now

[Millium]

I believe that in the first world town is actually the uninformed majority and are told as such. mafia is the informed minority and are also told this

however, in the second world / core roles, whatever you want to call it, mafia is the uninformed majority and town is the informed minority

this is why no one has claimed mafia as their first alignment, and also why no one has claimed town as their core role

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Millium]

I TOLD U ZONE THOUGHT HE WAS A WOLF

[ATNoLeafia]

Honestly, Kiiruma's world is starting to make more and more sense eventho his execution was insanely poor lol.

[Chihiro]

If what owl says is true, it aligns perfectly with what townmisleaders said.

[TownMisleaders]

you had a factional kill and your alignment was mafia yet you thought "defeat threats" was a survivor wincon? i'm pretty sure you were just an informed minority

[Chihiro]

Honestly, Kiiruma's world is starting to make more and more sense eventho his execution was insanely poor lol.

lol he got bullied out of the thread by millium

[Chihiro]

@OwlsWriteLetters who were your mafia kills

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

To you?

Yes

No thank you

I see, you have no reason

I've actually already said why but there's no point in trying to convince you that you should be voted out lol

Your "explanation" is insufficient, I don't care if you vote for me, I care about your thinking process, so please rephrase it

I am totally uninterested in this conversation now

Then you are not interesting in solving my slot
I'll write this down.
Should I ignore the fact that you are not cooperating and consider yourself only uninformed and stubborn?

[OwlsWriteLetters]

you had a factional kill and your alignment was mafia yet you thought "defeat threats" was a survivor wincon? i'm pretty sure you were just an informed minority

A "factional kill" that did nothing lol

[OwlsWriteLetters]

@OwlsWriteLetters who were your mafia kills

Already said I don't remember

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Yes

No thank you

I see, you have no reason

I've actually already said why but there's no point in trying to convince you that you should be voted out lol

Your "explanation" is insufficient, I don't care if you vote for me, I care about your thinking process, so please rephrase it

I am totally uninterested in this conversation now

Then you are not interesting in solving my slot
I'll write this down.
Should I ignore the fact that you are not cooperating and consider yourself only uninformed and stubborn?

Its a free country

[OwlsWriteLetters]

@OwlsWriteLetters who were your mafia kills

Already said I don't remember

We were kicked from the chat

[Chihiro]

Oh fair enough lol

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

First world mafia was us and zone, we were essentially survivors. We submitted night kills that afaik had zero effect, and our wincon was a survivor/possibly town wincon. I do not remember what NKs were submitted, just that they didn't die iirc.

Survivors submitting NKs.
Claim targets please

No one died when they were the first target of a NK, how can you consider the fact they did not die as insignificant?

[Chihiro]

@Kurosaki Ichigo Owl has been pretty cooperative as of late, so not sure what your own about.

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

@OwlsWriteLetters who were your mafia kills

Already said I don't remember

We were kicked from the chat

I don't think you have a short memory

[ATNoLeafia]

I mean, if you guys want to ask who the night kills are, you can ask zo- o wait, hes exiled lol.

[OwlsWriteLetters]

@Kurosaki Ichigo Owl has been pretty cooperative as of late, so not sure what your own about.

I'm not jumping through their hoops so they're pissy and turning to omgus/dismissal

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

@Kurosaki Ichigo Owl has been pretty cooperative as of late, so not sure what your own about.

What information did they actually share?

[OwlsWriteLetters]

Zone submitted all the "nks"

To be clear they didn't die or "die" but remain in the game iirc, nothing at all happened to them afaik

[Millium]

My best guess is Owl is still a wolf
/Shrug

And beancat's apology means nothing to me, they still feel just as guilty

[Millium]

Owl/zone/beancat

Can't vote zone, so kill either bean or Owl

[OwlsWriteLetters]

My best guess is Owl is still a wolf
/Shrug

And beancat's apology means nothing to me, they still feel just as guilty

Mafia are the good guys in this world lol

[FoolsGold]

there is also a world where the informed evil, no they are informed evil, while also having fake roles to work with the mechanics of the game, as to not be outted by the setup itself

this is not a world
they might know they are evil, but they don't have fake roles afaik
if the wincon they claim as uniformed majority is too weird, they're likely making it up

[Millium]

Again my best guess is Owl and beancat are evil, beancat more likely since they are full of shit

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

@Kurosaki Ichigo Owl has been pretty cooperative as of late, so not sure what your own about.

I'm not jumping through their hoops so they're pissy and turning to omgus/dismissal

You vote for me for no reason and you can't explain your vote, but you say I'm upset.
There is no omgus, I try to understand you because I thought you were good guys, but you just avoid the questions while conveniently claiming that you forgot the action of the night 1.
What should I believe?

[Millium]

there is also a world where the informed evil, no they are informed evil, while also having fake roles to work with the mechanics of the game, as to not be outted by the setup itself

this is not a world
they might know they are evil, but they don't have fake roles afaik
if the wincon they claim as uniformed majority is too weird, they're likely making it up

Thanks for ur input

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

@Kurosaki Ichigo Owl has been pretty cooperative as of late, so not sure what your own about.

What information did they actually share?

@Tsumugi

[FoolsGold]

I lost where I was at after responding rip

[OwlsWriteLetters]

I lost where I was at after responding rip

You can tap the arrow and it'll jump to the post you quoted