Mafia Misplay Mafia

[hollowkatt]

I catched up like 20 pages in one go, while also struggling to read them cuz ut was literally between classes , while logging out and trying to adapt my eyes to the forum.
So I know my analysis of the game isnt going to be good, and like, I dont feel like tryharding the game anyways.
While Catching up I had already blade vote and Sabi questioned about me felt ???? My feeling is that Im going to get misyeeted either way cuz Im not going to put the necesary effort and people are going to be wary regardless.

I had some townreads but no wolfread I feel good about so im just vibing in thread and if people are going to yeet me then oh well

Less complain more explain

I get it, you are town, tragic figure bereft of time and comfort, assaulted on all sides by those who would yeet you for reasons beyond comprehension in a manner beyond your control.

Got it.

Reads?

But I love being a drama queen

Imma start calling you Discount Ace Marvel

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The people being pressured seem to not care at all about being pressured. So that's interesting

Is that generally more towny or scummy in your opinion? Or just NAI?

I have an answer but wanna see what you think.

ok. There's little resistance to the existing wagons (achro, santy, ender), no other wagons have really been floated to take pressure off of any of them, and "we" seem to be collectively going "meh these chops are fine" which is basically because they're just less town read than other people are.

I think that there not being push-back or reversed pressure to change the wagons means either we're on the right path with at least one of them (possibly two doubt all three) OR we've got three townies wagoned and wolves don't give a fuck.

Achro seems to be pretty passively accepting of his wagon. I don't know his wolf game, I've never seen it, but this doesn't jibe with what I've seen of his town game. I do know he's had a lot of games lately and that can lead to a shifting of process and whatnot to be more idgaf about things so I'm reluctant to push him solely on that. I do think he's got wolf potential.

Santygrass is taking the "come at me bro" strategy of dealing with wolf reads and wagons. Funny enough though I don't recall Santy snarking back towards people who aren't me. Not sure how I feel about that. I served him up a softball earlier that wasn't even swung at in fact santy leaned into "my iso is shit" vs trying to pull anything that would indicate caring or solving. That seems antithetical to what town in that position would be trying to do. I get he might be busy so I'm not saying some kind of volume or presence read, but combine lack of presence with lack of content and I come to skating by. Def can be chopped, is probably a wolf.

Then there's Ender who dropped off a cliff once he started receiving some legitimate pressure instead of just "ender bad" but "ender bad and here's why" and while I don't associate that with his wolf game (I towned against his wolf in a game on The Org) it's not anything I associate with his town game either. I compared Santy to Ladd earlier and said "Ender is the only one who'd recognize this" but I lied. Visor would as well as he hosted that game. Dunno how much spec he was doing but I think that's worth pointing out.

Then there's some additional wagons that weren't there, or weren't leading at the time I last looked at the thread:

Jackofhearts - I get this wagon. He hasn't posted, killing him is a-ok with me.

Macdougall - I town read this ausie sonuva and I get lots don't, I'm not sure I care much about that though.
Neither of these two players care at all about their wagons but I can't read into that. Jack b/c he hasn't posted and Mac b/c he literally never cares.

I think we're right on two of {achro, ender, santy} at most, very likely only one, and very likely it's not achro. If we were right on all three there would be more wagon ideas floated than there currently are, mac/jack I don't think count, but it's super convenient that there's a zero poster isn't it?

I think it's more town indicative than wolf indicative. Problem is I can't clear/solve santy or ender as they're currently posting. Achro at least is giving us content.

TY I really like this answer.

[santygrass]

I play to have fun, and I feel like slanking it and be chillin in thread. Dont care much if people wolfread me for it.
Maybe mine Skill Issue for not being a better team player, but also skill issue on yall for expecting more from me tbfh

your posting would be fine with me if it came with any amount of toothsome content I can dig into.

If I dont have a wolfread atm Im not going to make extra effort to dig and find one. I feel.good about voting Outed Wolf to pressure that slot and have a better read there, but thats it for now

[santygrass]

I catched up like 20 pages in one go, while also struggling to read them cuz ut was literally between classes , while logging out and trying to adapt my eyes to the forum.
So I know my analysis of the game isnt going to be good, and like, I dont feel like tryharding the game anyways.
While Catching up I had already blade vote and Sabi questioned about me felt ???? My feeling is that Im going to get misyeeted either way cuz Im not going to put the necesary effort and people are going to be wary regardless.

I had some townreads but no wolfread I feel good about so im just vibing in thread and if people are going to yeet me then oh well

Less complain more explain

I get it, you are town, tragic figure bereft of time and comfort, assaulted on all sides by those who would yeet you for reasons beyond comprehension in a manner beyond your control.

Got it.

Reads?

But I love being a drama queen

Imma start calling you Discount Ace Marvel

Instead of KPOP reads I have Skill Issue. I could see it, yeah

[Sabiplz]

The people being pressured seem to not care at all about being pressured. So that's interesting

Is that generally more towny or scummy in your opinion? Or just NAI?

I have an answer but wanna see what you think.

ok. There's little resistance to the existing wagons (achro, santy, ender), no other wagons have really been floated to take pressure off of any of them, and "we" seem to be collectively going "meh these chops are fine" which is basically because they're just less town read than other people are.

I think that there not being push-back or reversed pressure to change the wagons means either we're on the right path with at least one of them (possibly two doubt all three) OR we've got three townies wagoned and wolves don't give a fuck.

Achro seems to be pretty passively accepting of his wagon. I don't know his wolf game, I've never seen it, but this doesn't jibe with what I've seen of his town game. I do know he's had a lot of games lately and that can lead to a shifting of process and whatnot to be more idgaf about things so I'm reluctant to push him solely on that. I do think he's got wolf potential.

Santygrass is taking the "come at me bro" strategy of dealing with wolf reads and wagons. Funny enough though I don't recall Santy snarking back towards people who aren't me. Not sure how I feel about that. I served him up a softball earlier that wasn't even swung at in fact santy leaned into "my iso is shit" vs trying to pull anything that would indicate caring or solving. That seems antithetical to what town in that position would be trying to do. I get he might be busy so I'm not saying some kind of volume or presence read, but combine lack of presence with lack of content and I come to skating by. Def can be chopped, is probably a wolf.

Then there's Ender who dropped off a cliff once he started receiving some legitimate pressure instead of just "ender bad" but "ender bad and here's why" and while I don't associate that with his wolf game (I towned against his wolf in a game on The Org) it's not anything I associate with his town game either. I compared Santy to Ladd earlier and said "Ender is the only one who'd recognize this" but I lied. Visor would as well as he hosted that game. Dunno how much spec he was doing but I think that's worth pointing out.

Then there's some additional wagons that weren't there, or weren't leading at the time I last looked at the thread:

Jackofhearts - I get this wagon. He hasn't posted, killing him is a-ok with me.

Macdougall - I town read this ausie sonuva and I get lots don't, I'm not sure I care much about that though.
Neither of these two players care at all about their wagons but I can't read into that. Jack b/c he hasn't posted and Mac b/c he literally never cares.

I think we're right on two of {achro, ender, santy} at most, very likely only one, and very likely it's not achro. If we were right on all three there would be more wagon ideas floated than there currently are, mac/jack I don't think count, but it's super convenient that there's a zero poster isn't it?

I think it's more town indicative than wolf indicative. Problem is I can't clear/solve santy or ender as they're currently posting. Achro at least is giving us content.

I like this post from HK

[Lilypetal]

my early town read on HK could never have been wrong

[Porscha]

mildly unmotivated after being chastised by my father macdougall

please don't take it that way I just want you to slay like the Queen you are and taking tepid swipes at me ain't it...

i'm just so tired and dead inside but I will try to be a little more responsible with my accidental power

[Achromatic]

Cuddles have been received.

Anyway I have strong doubts Mac sincerely scum reads me for being okay with lynching a 0 poster when a) I am voting Mac b) I have discussed my wide view of the game and Jack judt so happens to not be one of my many town reads and c) I just got victimized by a low effort scum in champs.

It feels like one of those things that people who are struggling to find footing in a game cling to in order to appear justified. 'Achro is okay with the 0 poster going out!' But by my count at least 5 people are ok with the 0 poster going out. I just don't believe this vote at all lol

I would also be amused if jack is in fact Mac's scum buddy but who knows. It would be one thing if I was really predatory today but I haven't been ans Mac had an earlier town read on me although for questionable reasons.

On top of that me liking esooa a lot today also makes me think Mac is just a wolf because Mac is good.

[Porscha]

same for @Porscha @Sabiplz and @Lilypetal

top 2 town and top 1 wolf plz

top 2 town

porscha
sabi

my wolf is probs u or neon but like i said earlier ur probs gonna post urself out of me voting for you pretty soon

so removing you from the equation i'd probably say neon

This feels like a tmi slip

idk lily had already said some iteration of the same sentiment earlier so I thought it was her just following up on the same line of thought

[risiinq-]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

[risiinq-]

like i just find both of them wolfy lol

[Achromatic]

[quote=risiinq- post_id=947564 time=1662772386 user_id=1085]
i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt
[/quote]

Good news is I agree with this atm lol

[Achromatic]

Wow what happened to that quote.

Anyway you don't find me wolfy you find me weird. Give into the weirdness tbh

[Sabiplz]

mildly unmotivated after being chastised by my father macdougall

please don't take it that way I just want you to slay like the Queen you are and taking tepid swipes at me ain't it...

i'm just so tired and dead inside but I will try to be a little more responsible with my accidental power

One queen might be dead but you are the best one

[risiinq-]

whos to say weirdness != wolfy

[Achromatic]

whos to say weirdness != wolfy

Me since I don't rand wolf 100% of the time tbh

[risiinq-]

oh no im being convinced of ur innocence

[Sabiplz]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

The only world I see Mac w is in is if achro is w.

Just because I have seen achro do the same things as wolf before to a partner.

[Sabiplz]

oh no im being convinced of ur innocence

Stand up rising

[Achromatic]

Good good let the truth flow through you.

Anyway that reaction to me saying I would be ok with Jack dying was way too dramatic and I remain very cool with my vote and I think some of my earlier pings have further justified themselves so far. Hk feels fine, for example. Visor just randomly voting is probably nai though.

[MacDougall]

@Achromatic how much experience do you have with esooa?

[Achromatic]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

The only world I see Mac w is in is if achro is w.

Just because I have seen achro do the same things as wolf before to a partner.

Please get your head out of your ass. Thank you.

[Achromatic]

@Achromatic how much experience do you have with esooa?

0.0.

[risiinq-]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

The only world I see Mac w is in is if achro is w.

Just because I have seen achro do the same things as wolf before to a partner.

hmm yeah, i was considering a w/w possibility too but i dont think this immediately means a mac w achro v possibility doesnt exist

i kinda feel like there /is/ one wolf in there though.

it's hard to explain tho, ill see how it pans out

[Sabiplz]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

The only world I see Mac w is in is if achro is w.

Just because I have seen achro do the same things as wolf before to a partner.

Please get your head out of your ass. Thank you.

My head is not in my ass.

That would be uncomfortable.

[MacDougall]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

Good news is I agree with this atm lol

Said town achro never.

I have not been nearly wolfy enough for you to have me as lock mafia.

Literally just playing snow.

[risiinq-]

Good good let the truth flow through you.

Anyway that reaction to me saying I would be ok with Jack dying was way too dramatic and I remain very cool with my vote and I think some of my earlier pings have further justified themselves so far. Hk feels fine, for example. Visor just randomly voting is probably nai though.

visor?

is outed wolf visor lol

[Achromatic]

Thinking achro is wolf: woke
Thinking Mac lynching achro as town is totally town and achro having a problem with it means nothing for Mac's alignment: broke

[risiinq-]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

Good news is I agree with this atm lol

Said town achro never.

I have not been nearly wolfy enough for you to have me as lock mafia.

Literally just playing snow.

wow i hate being played except everyone wolf plays me

[MacDougall]

@Achromatic how much experience do you have with esooa?

0.0.

And yet you are reading me mafia because.

1. I'm voting you
2. I suspect esooa and you don't.

And I'm apparently lock mafia?

[Achromatic]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

Good news is I agree with this atm lol

Said town achro never.

I have not been nearly wolfy enough for you to have me as lock mafia.

Literally just playing snow.

Sure Mac. Sure.

[MacDougall]

Thinking achro is wolf: woke
Thinking Mac lynching achro as town is totally town and achro having a problem with it means nothing for Mac's alignment: broke

Nobody said this. Nice strawman.

[outed wolf]

Good good let the truth flow through you.

Anyway that reaction to me saying I would be ok with Jack dying was way too dramatic and I remain very cool with my vote and I think some of my earlier pings have further justified themselves so far. Hk feels fine, for example. Visor just randomly voting is probably nai though.

visor?

is outed wolf visor lol

No I am katze.

Nya.

[MacDougall]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

Good news is I agree with this atm lol

Said town achro never.

I have not been nearly wolfy enough for you to have me as lock mafia.

Literally just playing snow.

Sure Mac. Sure.

Good defense wolf.

[Sabiplz]

I miss ender

[santygrass]

i unironically think achro/mac is a difference check for no reason whatsoever and its making my head hurt

The only world I see Mac w is in is if achro is w.

Just because I have seen achro do the same things as wolf before to a partner.

hmm yeah, i was considering a w/w possibility too but i dont think this immediately means a mac w achro v possibility doesnt exist

i kinda feel like there /is/ one wolf in there though.

it's hard to explain tho, ill see how it pans out

Ehh I could see them both as V imo
In order of likelihood prob a at this rn

V!Achro / W!Mac = V!Achro / V! Mac > W!Achro / V!Mac > W!Achro / W!Mac .

Very deep analysis

[risiinq-]

@Achromatic how much experience do you have with esooa?

0.0.

And yet you are reading me mafia because.

1. I'm voting you
2. I suspect esooa and you don't.

And I'm apparently lock mafia?

do you think it makes sense for anyone to vote u right now? do you think you have been towny enough so that town is inclined to find you?

[Achromatic]

@Achromatic how much experience do you have with esooa?

0.0.

And yet you are reading me mafia because.

1. I'm voting you
2. I suspect esooa and you don't.

And I'm apparently lock mafia?

I had a previous scum read on you and was voting you prior to either of these. Your vote on me is the first to suck this game though and yes I town read esooa.

Also no one is ever lock mafia and thus 'atm'

[Sabiplz]

Good good let the truth flow through you.

Anyway that reaction to me saying I would be ok with Jack dying was way too dramatic and I remain very cool with my vote and I think some of my earlier pings have further justified themselves so far. Hk feels fine, for example. Visor just randomly voting is probably nai though.

visor?

is outed wolf visor lol

No I am katze.

Nya.

:curtain:

[santygrass]

Like, if they are both Villa I could kinda expect them to clash if they disagree on something

[risiinq-]

Like, if they are both Villa I could kinda expect them to clash if they disagree on something

yeah, i know that

i just don't think any of them have been really towny though.

[outed wolf]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

[Sabiplz]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

[santygrass]

Good good let the truth flow through you.

Anyway that reaction to me saying I would be ok with Jack dying was way too dramatic and I remain very cool with my vote and I think some of my earlier pings have further justified themselves so far. Hk feels fine, for example. Visor just randomly voting is probably nai though.

visor?

is outed wolf visor lol

No I am katze.

Nya.

Gg I was Visor

[Sabiplz]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

[Achromatic]

Thinking achro is wolf: woke
Thinking Mac lynching achro as town is totally town and achro having a problem with it means nothing for Mac's alignment: broke

Nobody said this. Nice strawman.

Sabi said this by saying you are only w if I am w but sure use words until they have no meaning.

[MacDougall]

@Achromatic how much experience do you have with esooa?

0.0.

And yet you are reading me mafia because.

1. I'm voting you
2. I suspect esooa and you don't.

And I'm apparently lock mafia?

do you think it makes sense for anyone to vote u right now? do you think you have been towny enough so that town is inclined to find you?

Voting for me is not the same as having me as proposed lock mafia.

[MacDougall]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

[santygrass]

Could you scumcase Esooa for me Mac? Without bringing the votes thingy cuz thats boring

[outed wolf]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.