Mafia Misplay Mafia

[MacDougall]

Could you scumcase Esooa for me Mac? Without bringing the votes thingy cuz thats boring

no

[Lilypetal]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

skill issue

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Hey. I like Sabi they are my favorite person to play with. How dare.

[Lilypetal]

@santygrass are u proud of me i said the thing

[risiinq-]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

rip. wolfreading me is a bad move.

[outed wolf]

Wilgy could be fine for D1 I think.
Trusting volume clear on Porscha rn.

That's the max I have rn.

[MacDougall]

constantly attacking the player not the play, it's so frustrating

[Sabiplz]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Yawn

Just admit you're in love with me already.

[Achromatic]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Overdramatic huh. I have barely had a pulse geesh.

[MacDougall]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Hey. I like Sabi they are my favorite person to play with. How dare.

does sabi attack your character I'm literally every game you play together?

[risiinq-]

tbf outed wolf's reads are fine and it makes me feel a little better about that slot

[Achromatic]

constantly attacking the player not the play, it's so frustrating

Achro what do you think of mac

Oh hold on let me just peel off the tape of this secret read I posted earlier...

Okay so I didn't feel like he was being genuine with Sabi to start the game like he was just kind of phoning in the being offended by Sabi bit. At first I was like that meme of the guy looking at the butterfly thinking to myself 'is this partner distancing?' but then Sabi improved so I wasn't sure what to do about Mac. This is like a "not really a big deal" type of early read but I filed it away and then he just kind of kept the interaction going for a bit in what I found to be almost baiting to Sabi to say something to allow him to keep going.

Then like Wilgy called it out and I was like 'OH SHIT' Wilgy is town suddenly and it made me feel like I wasn't just imagining it. So I noted that as an early wolf ping.

I have a town read on Esooa so I don't like the vote there, and I also thought his discussion of maths and wagon formations came off a bit predatory. Obviously like it could be true but it contradicts my current landscape of the game and it's one of those things that sounds OK until you try lynching based off of it, its wrong, and suddenly its "oh I guess Achro is scum!" and then I am not and it's just a mess from there or some such.

Also I expected him to kinda dig into me a bit more here, smash my head open and see what spills out but he has been very hands off outside of a couple of questions and it gives the feeling like he is being a little cautious around me which doesn't feel great.

We'll see how day progresses but so far it's kind of like 'eh'

I'll let you in on a secret.

I am not really offended by things sabi says, I just compulsively react as though I am because I like it when she backtracks and says sorry lol. It makes me feel powerful.

Mac being tsundere for sabi is my favorite plot line of this thread.

[Sabiplz]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Can you expand on these colored parts for me?

[outed wolf]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Overdramatic huh. I have barely had a pulse geesh.

You have 184 posts, lol.

[risiinq-]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Overdramatic huh. I have barely had a pulse geesh.

You have 184 posts, lol.

...how does that correlate to overdramatic???

[MacDougall]

ugh I wanna say things I've said I don't say lol

[Achromatic]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Overdramatic huh. I have barely had a pulse geesh.

You have 184 posts, lol.

I meant in terms of like, dramatics. This is a solid 1.5/10 on the dramatics scale for me.

[MacDougall]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Overdramatic huh. I have barely had a pulse geesh.

You have 184 posts, lol.

...how does that correlate to overdramatic???

lmao

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Hey. I like Sabi they are my favorite person to play with. How dare.

does sabi attack your character I'm literally every game you play together?

No Sabi loves me sounds like a skill issue

[outed wolf]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Can you expand on these colored parts for me?

Not really on the first one. He just feels like he is playing things up and engaging with people in a way I associate with how he approached people on the FOL game.

I want to wolfread them because in a vacuum I found their posts wolfy, but I often find players who post like risiinq wolfy, so I'm holding back until I see something outright wolfy from them.

[MacDougall]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Yawn

Just admit you're in love with me already.

*grumble grumble* send nudes ffs

[risiinq-]

ugh I wanna say things I've said I don't say lol

instead you could solve the game

[santygrass]

@santygrass are u proud of me i said the thing

I am very proud. I am crying of pure joy

[MacDougall]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Hey. I like Sabi they are my favorite person to play with. How dare.

does sabi attack your character I'm literally every game you play together?

No Sabi loves me sounds like a skill issue

I'm officially not having a good time

[Achromatic]

You guys can kill me it's chill I will return to my wow inventory weekend but snow is as pure as .... .. .... snow.

[MacDougall]

ugh I wanna say things I've said I don't say lol

instead you could solve the game

omg I have been why is everyone saying the exact most tilting shit

[risiinq-]

You guys can kill me it's chill I will return to my wow inventory weekend but snow is as pure as .... .. .... snow.

i-

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The ego between both achro and mac is wowee

you are the literal most annoying player in all of mafia

Hey. I like Sabi they are my favorite person to play with. How dare.

does sabi attack your character I'm literally every game you play together?

No Sabi loves me sounds like a skill issue

I'm officially not having a good time

I love you I'm sorryyyyy

[Sabiplz]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Can you expand on these colored parts for me?

Not really on the first one. He just feels like he is playing things up and engaging with people in a way I associate with how he approached people on the FOL game.

I want to wolfread them because in a vacuum I found their posts wolfy, but I often find players who post like risiinq wolfy, so I'm holding back until I see something outright wolfy from them.

Makes sense.

We are mind melding on the achro read.

Rising is always like that tho. Aops play style

[risiinq-]

ugh I wanna say things I've said I don't say lol

instead you could solve the game

omg I have been why is everyone saying the exact most tilting shit

uhh sorry if you got upset by this i literally didnt mean anything

[risiinq-]

I miss ender

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Can you expand on these colored parts for me?

Not really on the first one. He just feels like he is playing things up and engaging with people in a way I associate with how he approached people on the FOL game.

I want to wolfread them because in a vacuum I found their posts wolfy, but I often find players who post like risiinq wolfy, so I'm holding back until I see something outright wolfy from them.

Makes sense.

We are mind melding on the achro read.

Rising is always like that tho. Aops play style

LOL what do you mean by aops play style my playstyle shouldn't be defined by aops smh

[Achromatic]

Like what am I supposed to do about people suspecting me, get mad?

I just put sabi through trauma of course they are ready to stab me.

Snow over here is doing their best and hasn't played with me before so the circus that is my mind makes sense.

Hk knows how good I am as town so he is giving me a wide level of respect of keeping me in front of him.

Porscha I forget what porscha said but it involved the whimsy of my town reads.

Esooa I have gathered is a great player so maybe there are tricks there but I have found their thoughts around me to be genuine.

It is okay. Fearing the achro wolf is natural.

But Mac's progression doesn't add up to me. Not sure about visor, dramatic is not how I would describe my play this game.

[santygrass]

Could you scumcase Esooa for me Mac? Without bringing the votes thingy cuz thats boring

no

Then not much I can do /shrug.
OW last posts were fine too nyeh. Still need to find a sr that feels good, the lack of scumhunting is something Im aware of but like, dont feel like forcing it? If Im not scumreading anyone at the moment dont going to make my reads worse for the sake of it.

And if you lynch me because of the lack of sr oh well Skill Issue. Is mostly my stance in the game prob

[Sabiplz]

I love that Mac is upset about the ego comment while achro is like not caring.

Pictured in meme form:

[santygrass]

I am FROZEN and CRYING in threadchat

[Achromatic]

I don't tend to get mad at some form of the truth. It is more nuanced than me having an ego but for your purposes it is close enough lol

[Sabiplz]

Sentences nobody has ever said for 500, Alex.

(ily blade)

What are your reads visor

Reads? Never heard of em.

Santy's posts are still lacking, no real villageriness or solving to em.
Achro's feeling quite overdramatic this game in a way that reminds me of our FOL game together.
Still not buying what lily is selling, but nobody agrees so whatever.
Jury is out on riisinqs posts. Kinda want to wolfread them, but feel like it could just be playstyle.

Still think hkatt and nanook are fine. Rest I don't have a strong opinion on. You might be v.

Can you expand on these colored parts for me?

Not really on the first one. He just feels like he is playing things up and engaging with people in a way I associate with how he approached people on the FOL game.

I want to wolfread them because in a vacuum I found their posts wolfy, but I often find players who post like risiinq wolfy, so I'm holding back until I see something outright wolfy from them.

Makes sense.

We are mind melding on the achro read.

Rising is always like that tho. Aops play style

LOL what do you mean by aops play style my playstyle shouldn't be defined by aops smh

A lot of aops players play scummy. It's the way yall play.

[MacDougall]

Like what am I supposed to do about people suspecting me, get mad?

I just put sabi through trauma of course they are ready to stab me.

Snow over here is doing their best and hasn't played with me before so the circus that is my mind makes sense.

Hk knows how good I am as town so he is giving me a wide level of respect of keeping me in front of him.

Porscha I forget what porscha said but it involved the whimsy of my town reads.

Esooa I have gathered is a great player so maybe there are tricks there but I have found their thoughts around me to be genuine.

It is okay. Fearing the achro wolf is natural.

But Mac's progression doesn't add up to me. Not sure about visor, dramatic is not how I would describe my play this game.

ah progression reads... the most nonsense nai read that all wolves think sounds towny good one

[risiinq-]

LOL what do you mean by aops play style my playstyle shouldn't be defined by aops smh

A lot of aops players play scummy. It's the way yall play.

and i thought i was obvtown

(bad oversimplification ngl)

[MacDougall]

I love that Mac is upset about the ego comment while achro is like not caring.

Pictured in meme form:

it's more of a death by a thousand cuts thing with you than the specific post

[Achromatic]

Mac keeps saying words and yet they are not true.

I mean I was scum reading you before this but if I can't understand where you are coming from but can understand my other votes then that is what they people call a potential difference check.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like what am I supposed to do about people suspecting me, get mad?

I just put sabi through trauma of course they are ready to stab me.

Snow over here is doing their best and hasn't played with me before so the circus that is my mind makes sense.

Hk knows how good I am as town so he is giving me a wide level of respect of keeping me in front of him.

Porscha I forget what porscha said but it involved the whimsy of my town reads.

Esooa I have gathered is a great player so maybe there are tricks there but I have found their thoughts around me to be genuine.

It is okay. Fearing the achro wolf is natural.

But Mac's progression doesn't add up to me. Not sure about visor, dramatic is not how I would describe my play this game.

ah progression reads... the most nonsense nai read that all wolves think sounds towny good one

Agreed

[Achromatic]

Mac keeps saying words and yet they are not true.

I mean I was scum reading you before this but if I can't understand where you are coming from but can understand my other votes then that is what the people call a potential difference check.

Ebwop

[santygrass]

Penis

[Sabiplz]

I love that Mac is upset about the ego comment while achro is like not caring.

Pictured in meme form:

it's more of a death by a thousand cuts thing with you than the specific post

No feet pics for you now. Only for blade.

[MacDougall]

Mac keeps saying words and yet they are not true.

I mean I was scum reading you before this but if I can't understand where you are coming from but can understand my other votes then that is what the people call a potential difference check.

Ebwop

wtf you are just spouting absolute nonsense.

[Achromatic]

Mac keeps saying words and yet they are not true.

I mean I was scum reading you before this but if I can't understand where you are coming from but can understand my other votes then that is what the people call a potential difference check.

Ebwop

wtf you are just spouting absolute nonsense.

wtf you are just spouting absolute nonsense.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

All this sexual tension I feel so left out

[Achromatic]

Hiya Neon. What made you decide jack was the best vote for you atm?

[Esooa]

The people being pressured seem to not care at all about being pressured. So that's interesting

Is that generally more towny or scummy in your opinion? Or just NAI?

I have an answer but wanna see what you think.

ok. There's little resistance to the existing wagons (achro, santy, ender), no other wagons have really been floated to take pressure off of any of them, and "we" seem to be collectively going "meh these chops are fine" which is basically because they're just less town read than other people are.

I think that there not being push-back or reversed pressure to change the wagons means either we're on the right path with at least one of them (possibly two doubt all three) OR we've got three townies wagoned and wolves don't give a fuck.

Achro seems to be pretty passively accepting of his wagon. I don't know his wolf game, I've never seen it, but this doesn't jibe with what I've seen of his town game. I do know he's had a lot of games lately and that can lead to a shifting of process and whatnot to be more idgaf about things so I'm reluctant to push him solely on that. I do think he's got wolf potential.

Santygrass is taking the "come at me bro" strategy of dealing with wolf reads and wagons. Funny enough though I don't recall Santy snarking back towards people who aren't me. Not sure how I feel about that. I served him up a softball earlier that wasn't even swung at in fact santy leaned into "my iso is shit" vs trying to pull anything that would indicate caring or solving. That seems antithetical to what town in that position would be trying to do. I get he might be busy so I'm not saying some kind of volume or presence read, but combine lack of presence with lack of content and I come to skating by. Def can be chopped, is probably a wolf.

Then there's Ender who dropped off a cliff once he started receiving some legitimate pressure instead of just "ender bad" but "ender bad and here's why" and while I don't associate that with his wolf game (I towned against his wolf in a game on The Org) it's not anything I associate with his town game either. I compared Santy to Ladd earlier and said "Ender is the only one who'd recognize this" but I lied. Visor would as well as he hosted that game. Dunno how much spec he was doing but I think that's worth pointing out.

Then there's some additional wagons that weren't there, or weren't leading at the time I last looked at the thread:

Jackofhearts - I get this wagon. He hasn't posted, killing him is a-ok with me.

Macdougall - I town read this ausie sonuva and I get lots don't, I'm not sure I care much about that though.
Neither of these two players care at all about their wagons but I can't read into that. Jack b/c he hasn't posted and Mac b/c he literally never cares.

I think we're right on two of {achro, ender, santy} at most, very likely only one, and very likely it's not achro. If we were right on all three there would be more wagon ideas floated than there currently are, mac/jack I don't think count, but it's super convenient that there's a zero poster isn't it?

I think it's more town indicative than wolf indicative. Problem is I can't clear/solve santy or ender as they're currently posting. Achro at least is giving us content.

the start of this post made me town read you and all the rest made me wolf read you lol