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[Jackofhearts2005]

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

Yes. Queek thinks so as well, fish-thing.

[santygrass]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

What game you think I say I've been playing btw?

At start I was clear that I was chillin and hence its clear that the effort isnt there. Now Im clearly more involved and when I read someone I value pretty much interactions and realtiming mostly tbh (Pretty big part of why EoD GOAT) .

Do you feel me as 'slick' when interacting for example with Neon? Cause I can see why you say that Im 'adapging' to people to have better reads on them , but I think my engaging with Neon I approached it as a little more of a confrontational or whatev the correct adjective is, just because I thought that Neon needed more content to figure them out and appeasing there wasnt the correct stance to do that

[Lilypetal]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

this was kinda what i was gonna ask him abt

i feel like the santy in this game isnt the town santy i have played with and i have said that a few times but i almost feel like something is rly off like spiritfarer santy was wrong about everything but loud and trying to solve and work with his TRs and santy in this game feels almost like his play has an agenda about it, it's not that raw towny urge to solve but more the want to have an appearance of fitting in the thread properly as a member of town. I like santy a lot but in spiritfarer one of the first things he told me was "I can't white knight for you this time" whereas santy in this game makes me feel pocketed which is nice but also makes me feel like there's a goal behind his words. Like i've said before he very well could just be playing diff cuz new site cuz hey me too but it's something going forward we really need to examine and figure out.

ill still adore u if ur a wolf santy xoxo

[Lilypetal]

either way i think because of the uncertainty on santy's slot he shouldn't be voted today and we should be examining HK and Mac like I said earlier.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yes I have skill issue.

What are you going to do about it?

Wjat is your read on me?

Nothing. Queek will not baby you like elf-thing mother.

Queek thinks maybe you are just uncunning friend-pawn. Many things are not as wise-smart as Queek and cat-thing is too hungry for it's own good, yes-yes. Many whispers in the undercity say cat-thing is town. Queek will trust them for now.

[santygrass]

Like, one of the things Im calling out is how there should be an evident shift since second? Half of D1 that was when I was caught up, in the process of getting a better grasp of the game and not that weirded with the new forum. And today my effort went even higher tbh.

I still play in a fun seeking way tho, but I am not ~Relaxed~ I'd say

[Lilypetal]

if someone thinks a flip outside of mac/hk is +ev for town lemme know but I can't see it rn

[Jackofhearts2005]

either way i think because of the uncertainty on santy's slot he shouldn't be voted today and we should be examining HK and Mac like I said earlier.

Uncertainty? More uncertainty than beard-thing and old-thing? Why-why?

[Sabiplz]

either way i think because of the uncertainty on santy's slot he shouldn't be voted today and we should be examining HK and Mac like I said earlier.

That's more reason to put pressure on santy and not less.

[Sabiplz]

if someone thinks a flip outside of mac/hk is +ev for town lemme know but I can't see it rn

I explained, it helps me figure out my poe is right or wrong. Otherwise we have day 3 of the santy tunnel and I don't think that helps town.

[Lilypetal]

Like, one of the things Im calling out is how there should be an evident shift since second? Half of D1 that was when I was caught up, in the process of getting a better grasp of the game and not that weirded with the new forum. And today my effort went even higher tbh.

I still play in a fun seeking way tho, but I am not ~Relaxed~ I'd say

i agree you've been playing an objectively townier day so far it just depends where you land on though

[Achromatic]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

What game you think I say I've been playing btw?

At start I was clear that I was chillin and hence its clear that the effort isnt there. Now Im clearly more involved and when I read someone I value pretty much interactions and realtiming mostly tbh (Pretty big part of why EoD GOAT) .

Do you feel me as 'slick' when interacting for example with Neon? Cause I can see why you say that Im 'adapging' to people to have better reads on them , but I think my engaging with Neon I approached it as a little more of a confrontational or whatev the correct adjective is, just because I thought that Neon needed more content to figure them out and appeasing there wasnt the correct stance to do that

A very controlled one imo. You don't feel relaxed to me.

You feel like you are in control. You aggro neon, dismiss sabi, applaud me, joke with lily, and let Mac borrow a shield in one flourish.

It is easy to go after sabi because on the merits they have been wrong about you regardless of your alignment for example.

[santygrass]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

this was kinda what i was gonna ask him abt

i feel like the santy in this game isnt the town santy i have played with and i have said that a few times but i almost feel like something is rly off like spiritfarer santy was wrong about everything but loud and trying to solve and work with his TRs and santy in this game feels almost like his play has an agenda about it, it's not that raw towny urge to solve but more the want to have an appearance of fitting in the thread properly as a member of town. I like santy a lot but in spiritfarer one of the first things he told me was "I can't white knight for you this time" whereas santy in this game makes me feel pocketed which is nice but also makes me feel like there's a goal behind his words. Like i've said before he very well could just be playing diff cuz new site cuz hey me too but it's something going forward we really need to examine and figure out.

ill still adore u if ur a wolf santy xoxo

Ehhh do you remember midnight mash tho? I saw you as town there too and shielded kinda the way I am doing it here too. Skill Issue.

I dont feel like having an agenda tho with the way I fopped on some reads tho so /shrug

[Sabiplz]

Yes I have skill issue.

What are you going to do about it?

Wjat is your read on me?

Nothing. Queek will not baby you like elf-thing mother.

Queek thinks maybe you are just uncunning friend-pawn. Many things are not as wise-smart as Queek and cat-thing is too hungry for it's own good, yes-yes. Many whispers in the undercity say cat-thing is town. Queek will trust them for now.

Can someone explain this because I don't understand what that means.

[Lilypetal]

either way i think because of the uncertainty on santy's slot he shouldn't be voted today and we should be examining HK and Mac like I said earlier.

Uncertainty? More uncertainty than beard-thing and old-thing? Why-why?

uncertainty as in it could go either way i'm like 50/50 on santy being town or wolf rn. whereas it seems very very likely we have a wolf in mac/hk and finding that wolf and flipping them would be imperative for this game

[Achromatic]

if someone thinks a flip outside of mac/hk is +ev for town lemme know but I can't see it rn

Hk is being lynched over my dead body after the visor n1 kill. I am sorry, truly, how hk spoke to you. It is unacceptable and fuck him but I think that slot shouldn't be questioned today.

[Achromatic]

Yes I have skill issue.

What are you going to do about it?

Wjat is your read on me?

Nothing. Queek will not baby you like elf-thing mother.

Queek thinks maybe you are just uncunning friend-pawn. Many things are not as wise-smart as Queek and cat-thing is too hungry for it's own good, yes-yes. Many whispers in the undercity say cat-thing is town. Queek will trust them for now.

Can someone explain this because I don't understand what that means.

He doesn't like your approach but thinks you are probably town.

[Lilypetal]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

this was kinda what i was gonna ask him abt

i feel like the santy in this game isnt the town santy i have played with and i have said that a few times but i almost feel like something is rly off like spiritfarer santy was wrong about everything but loud and trying to solve and work with his TRs and santy in this game feels almost like his play has an agenda about it, it's not that raw towny urge to solve but more the want to have an appearance of fitting in the thread properly as a member of town. I like santy a lot but in spiritfarer one of the first things he told me was "I can't white knight for you this time" whereas santy in this game makes me feel pocketed which is nice but also makes me feel like there's a goal behind his words. Like i've said before he very well could just be playing diff cuz new site cuz hey me too but it's something going forward we really need to examine and figure out.

ill still adore u if ur a wolf santy xoxo

Ehhh do you remember midnight mash tho? I saw you as town there too and shielded kinda the way I am doing it here too. Skill Issue.

I dont feel like having an agenda tho with the way I fopped on some reads tho so /shrug

midnight mash was a tad diff though because i gave you a nightvig, i felt like you were hoping i was town but a bit wary of my slot until that happened.

[Sabiplz]

I'm etl (English as third language) so yea sorry that it's a struggle to read jack

[Jackofhearts2005]

either way i think because of the uncertainty on santy's slot he shouldn't be voted today and we should be examining HK and Mac like I said earlier.

Uncertainty? More uncertainty than beard-thing and old-thing? Why-why?

uncertainty as in it could go either way i'm like 50/50 on santy being town or wolf rn. whereas it seems very very likely we have a wolf in mac/hk and finding that wolf and flipping them would be imperative for this game

50/50 good odds. Same odds as "a wolf" in beard-thing and old-thing.

[Sabiplz]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

[Lilypetal]

if someone thinks a flip outside of mac/hk is +ev for town lemme know but I can't see it rn

Hk is being lynched over my dead body after the visor n1 kill. I am sorry, truly, how hk spoke to you. It is unacceptable and fuck him but I think that slot shouldn't be questioned today.

then i think mac is the obvious wolf in that case. I agree it's probs not hk despite how vile he was lol or maybe because of how vile he was

mac's world even throws hk up as the wolf so he's making it an easy chop if we're assuming hk is V

[Achromatic]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

I mean lots of people seem to be doing this so lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nook can we not instigate HK. We can't afford him getting mad again

Is this for real lol

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm etl (English as third language) so yea sorry that it's a struggle to read jack

[Sabiplz]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

I mean lots of people seem to be doing this so lol

But like she keeps pushing HK and disregarding santy.

Idk maybe you're right.

[Achromatic]

if someone thinks a flip outside of mac/hk is +ev for town lemme know but I can't see it rn

Hk is being lynched over my dead body after the visor n1 kill. I am sorry, truly, how hk spoke to you. It is unacceptable and fuck him but I think that slot shouldn't be questioned today.

then i think mac is the obvious wolf in that case. I agree it's probs not hk despite how vile he was lol or maybe because of how vile he was

mac's world even throws hk up as the wolf so he's making it an easy chop if we're assuming hk is V

I am trying to puzzle Mac out and the biggest thing in his favor is he seems too bad to be a wolf in some ways which is certainly a read by me.

I am fine with mac/santy wagons atm though.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tell us Visor Slash's reads now-now!

[Achromatic]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

I mean lots of people seem to be doing this so lol

But like she keeps pushing HK and disregarding santy.

Idk maybe you're right.

Mac did it too. Nook is doing it.

[Sabiplz]

Nook can we not instigate HK. We can't afford him getting mad again

Is this for real lol

Yes.

I'm a hypocrite. I know. I'm just going to ignore Mac

[Lilypetal]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

well i am in a unique position of being someone visor scumread numerous times and knowing that those scumreads were incorrect

i assume if you were in the same position you would understand too

i'm not disregarding visor's reads but i am putting less weight in them

[Sabiplz]

I'm etl (English as third language) so yea sorry that it's a struggle to read jack

What are your other reads and try to be clearer for me

[Lilypetal]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

I mean lots of people seem to be doing this so lol

But like she keeps pushing HK and disregarding santy.

Idk maybe you're right.

i just made a post abt santy

[santygrass]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

What game you think I say I've been playing btw?

At start I was clear that I was chillin and hence its clear that the effort isnt there. Now Im clearly more involved and when I read someone I value pretty much interactions and realtiming mostly tbh (Pretty big part of why EoD GOAT) .

Do you feel me as 'slick' when interacting for example with Neon? Cause I can see why you say that Im 'adapging' to people to have better reads on them , but I think my engaging with Neon I approached it as a little more of a confrontational or whatev the correct adjective is, just because I thought that Neon needed more content to figure them out and appeasing there wasnt the correct stance to do that

A very controlled one imo. You don't feel relaxed to me.

You feel like you are in control. You aggro neon, dismiss sabi, applaud me, joke with lily, and let Mac borrow a shield in one flourish.

It is easy to go after sabi because on the merits they have been wrong about you regardless of your alignment for example.

Yeah, I def feel like having a greater grasp in things happening. Still stand that the relaxed stuff and the awoos are before shift in D1 imo. Think its pretty evident now that I am upping the effort and stuff and trying to figure stuff out.

From my votes, yeh I dismiss sabi cuz they are wrong, I confronted Neon and talked with them cuz I also wanted to figure out their alignment. And with you Im talking cuz I still think you are probs town and like, the approach is more likely to reason it out tbh.

Tho with Mac you can say I started shielding them, Mac upped their WIM and get some townypoints from Neon/Sabi and I flipped that read for example, calling out tha Mac solve really doesnt add up. Like with Mac rn what I am doing is sussing them but kinda at the same time what Im doing is that if theyre town approach/sus them in a way to try to have them a better solve? Or one that makes more sense at least

[Sabiplz]

Tell us Visor Slash's reads now-now!

HK town (based off eod)

Sus on lily, santy and Achro (kept trying to get wagons on all three)

[Lilypetal]

also i am literally not pushing HK im unsure how both of you came to that conclusion, maybe just off of wording?

i am saying there is a wolf in hk/mac, mac is suggesting it's hk and a few of us in thread are saying it's mac

im not voting hk nor pushing him nor want to interact with him lol i am pushing mac and voting mac, i would be pushing mac more but he's not here

[Esooa]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

well i am in a unique position of being someone visor scumread numerous times and knowing that those scumreads were incorrect

i assume if you were in the same position you would understand too

i'm not disregarding visor's reads but i am putting less weight in them

That unique position means his other reads are more likely correct lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

can i ask you all who you originally thought the NK would be?

Nook

Lolwut

[Sabiplz]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

I mean lots of people seem to be doing this so lol

But like she keeps pushing HK and disregarding santy.

Idk maybe you're right.

i just made a post abt santy

Which was hedgy and pushing santy out of the wagons for today.

[santygrass]

Also santy my apologies as you have been very nice to me but

I feel as if santy is not playing the game he says he is playing. A relaxed, fun affair. Reading his iso and how he talks with people it is interesting. Sabi and annoyance makes sense sure, that's one thing. But then when talking with me it is always very civil and respectful. Santy goes out of his way to make sure I feel heard and respected. With Jack he will literally speak his language. He will defend Mac in a storm of suspicion.

He feels pretty slick tbh with how he speaks to others. It feels a bit motivated when I take a step back and think on it.

I have liked much of his content, to remain clear, but if I put myself in the shoes of others there are a lot of flaws too. It's not about effort or wanting a chill game either.

I feel like santy being isoed and picked apart is very beneficial for town tbh. People should do that. It's an interesting iso.

this was kinda what i was gonna ask him abt

i feel like the santy in this game isnt the town santy i have played with and i have said that a few times but i almost feel like something is rly off like spiritfarer santy was wrong about everything but loud and trying to solve and work with his TRs and santy in this game feels almost like his play has an agenda about it, it's not that raw towny urge to solve but more the want to have an appearance of fitting in the thread properly as a member of town. I like santy a lot but in spiritfarer one of the first things he told me was "I can't white knight for you this time" whereas santy in this game makes me feel pocketed which is nice but also makes me feel like there's a goal behind his words. Like i've said before he very well could just be playing diff cuz new site cuz hey me too but it's something going forward we really need to examine and figure out.

ill still adore u if ur a wolf santy xoxo

Ehhh do you remember midnight mash tho? I saw you as town there too and shielded kinda the way I am doing it here too. Skill Issue.

I dont feel like having an agenda tho with the way I fopped on some reads tho so /shrug

midnight mash was a tad diff though because i gave you a nightvig, i felt like you were hoping i was town but a bit wary of my slot until that happened.

I boosted your ITA before that tho. I think that you were one of my obtown reads since early there tbh

[Sabiplz]

Lily do you think Visor had bad reads?

[Lilypetal]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

well i am in a unique position of being someone visor scumread numerous times and knowing that those scumreads were incorrect

i assume if you were in the same position you would understand too

i'm not disregarding visor's reads but i am putting less weight in them

That unique position means his other reads are more likely correct lol

why is that?

[Sabiplz]

can i ask you all who you originally thought the NK would be?

Nook

Lolwut

I explained. It makes sense in V!HK and W!HK worlds.

[Lilypetal]

Idk why lily is disregarding all of visor reads (HK and santy)

I mean lots of people seem to be doing this so lol

But like she keeps pushing HK and disregarding santy.

Idk maybe you're right.

i just made a post abt santy

Which was hedgy and pushing santy out of the wagons for today.

i believe it's the correct play yea

[Lilypetal]

Lily do you think Visor had bad reads?

bad reads? dunno
good reads? probably not

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nook can we not instigate HK. We can't afford him getting mad again

Is this for real lol

Yes.

I'm a hypocrite. I know. I'm just going to ignore Mac

Everything I've said to him is totally reasonable, I refuse to walk on egg shells and avoid saying reasonable things that are within the normal bounds of a mafia game because he might get mad at me lol

He knows he's not in the right here

[Achromatic]

Lily basically you need to walk me through if you think visor was very off why night kill him? There were others that suspected you after all so it can't really just be to frame you for example. Talk me through scenarios here.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

can i ask you all who you originally thought the NK would be?

Nook

Lolwut

I explained. It makes sense in V!HK and W!HK worlds.

Very few teams would n1 me lol

[Achromatic]

can i ask you all who you originally thought the NK would be?

Nook

Lolwut

I explained. It makes sense in V!HK and W!HK worlds.

Very few teams would n1 me lol

What are those teams so we can rule them out

[Sabiplz]

can i ask you all who you originally thought the NK would be?

Nook

Lolwut

I explained. It makes sense in V!HK and W!HK worlds.

Very few teams would n1 me lol

Wanna expand on that