Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[Sabiplz]

@ColinIsCool I WAS LITERALLY THE SECOND PERSON TO VOTE GUILLO AND PUSH HIM WITH CHELSEA TF

[Sabiplz]

I am spewed clear

[WindwardAway]

Also, DZ, I figured you were the watcher because of the way you were asking who I targeted
And I was reaaaaally hoping you'd drop names without outing your role for me it was a bit harder, I was trying to make it not so obvious why my role was but wanted to make it clear that there was no kill on my target and that my target was nutella

[ColinIsCool]

So to get to bottom:

What results did you get windy, and why do you think you were redirected? If you were redirected, then, so was Colin and he should have a hood.

If you weren't then ...bad.

@WindwardAway why do you think you were redirected?

Because I know that you targetted Nut. Colin is claiming too too

If you were redirected Colin should have a hood

If they dont they are just scum.

If the do...then you two are clear and I probs out some other ppl

Chelsea can confirm that we have a hood

[Sabiplz]

Colin can die. Outted 3p dies for parity sake

[Sabiplz]

Anyway I'm not here. I'm busy

[DeeZees]

@WindwardAway I think vote silencer killed Nutella and used their power on Chelsea? I don't understand how it works, but, the mafia faction was carried on to nutella by on of the 4 we know.

[DeeZees]

So to get to bottom:

What results did you get windy, and why do you think you were redirected? If you were redirected, then, so was Colin and he should have a hood.

If you weren't then ...bad.

@WindwardAway why do you think you were redirected?

Because I know that you targetted Nut. Colin is claiming too too

If you were redirected Colin should have a hood

If they dont they are just scum.

If the do...then you two are clear and I probs out some other ppl

Chelsea can confirm that we have a hood

Did Chelsea tell you her role

[WindwardAway]

I've just sentenced myself to death, fuck

no im watcher so confirmed town

what you mean about n1 you saw kill?

There was a kill attempt on someone on N1
I don't know if it was Chelsea since Chelsea isn't dead and there was no protective
But there's something very weird about my N1 results and I'm not sure if I should say it or not since I've already outed myself anyway? I'm trying to figure out if it's pro town or anti town to mention it

[ColinIsCool]

So to get to bottom:

What results did you get windy, and why do you think you were redirected? If you were redirected, then, so was Colin and he should have a hood.

If you weren't then ...bad.

@WindwardAway why do you think you were redirected?

Because I know that you targetted Nut. Colin is claiming too too

If you were redirected Colin should have a hood

If they dont they are just scum.

If the do...then you two are clear and I probs out some other ppl

Chelsea can confirm that we have a hood

Did Chelsea tell you her role

No

[LordQuas]

@ColinIsCool I WAS LITERALLY THE SECOND PERSON TO VOTE GUILLO AND PUSH HIM WITH CHELSEA TF

i was the first person to vote guillo, not chelsea

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway I think vote silencer killed Nutella and used their power on Chelsea? I don't understand how it works, but, the mafia faction was carried on to nutella by on of the 4 we know.

No, I would've been told there was a kill

[ColinIsCool]

Y'all act like you've never seen a godfather get bussed before ... just saying

[DeeZees]

hmm imma go to sleep. I think Colin is neutral dunno wanna see what Chelsea says when she arrives

I think Rascol being snatched is fun!!! wanna find out more

[Sabiplz]

@ColinIsCool I WAS LITERALLY THE SECOND PERSON TO VOTE GUILLO AND PUSH HIM WITH CHELSEA TF

i was the first person to vote guillo, not chelsea

Then I was second overall

[LordQuas]

i wouldnt be surprised if theres a busser on the guillo wagon tbh. Seemed like perfect space to bus

[Sabiplz]

Just kill Colin, a confirmed non town player

[WindwardAway]

Also
Nexus (or whatever you wanna call her role) doesn't target themselves as far as I know
In nut's case she targeted a specific player, which we know was Chelsea at least on N1, and if Colin didn't get a new hood on N2 then it mightve just been Chelsea again
I know whoever I targeted was targeted by Nutella

[DeeZees]

@WindwardAway I think vote silencer killed Nutella and used their power on Chelsea? I don't understand how it works, but, the mafia faction was carried on to nutella by on of the 4 we know.

No, I would've been told there was a kill

lol nutella is dead though?

[ColinIsCool]

Just kill Colin, a confirmed non town player

See I don't even totally think you're scum but this is exactly what wolves harp on when there's a ep they want to get rid of. "He's not even town" blah blah blah we know find a new slant

[DeeZees]

i wouldnt be surprised if theres a busser on the guillo wagon tbh. Seemed like perfect space to bus

yes

mech confuses me so I sleep

plz work it out with others you are a mafia game balancer so if town can help solve hey

[WindwardAway]

i wouldnt be surprised if theres a busser on the guillo wagon tbh. Seemed like perfect space to bus

Oh I'm sure we don't have 8 town votes on Guillo but I also don't think scum would be too early on the wagon

[LordQuas]

Just kill Colin, a confirmed non town player

it certain scenarios i would agree but we dont have infinite kills

[DeeZees]

Just kill Colin, a confirmed non town player

See I don't even totally think you're scum but this is exactly what wolves harp on when there's a ep they want to get rid of. "He's not even town" blah blah blah we know find a new slant

when im scum I do it thats for sure

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway I think vote silencer killed Nutella and used their power on Chelsea? I don't understand how it works, but, the mafia faction was carried on to nutella by on of the 4 we know.

No, I would've been told there was a kill

lol nutella is dead though?

That's my point
I couldn't have gotten results on nutella, because nutella died, and I didn't see the kill
You watched nutella, you saw probably the same number of visitors that I did, including nutella herself
So if our information matches up, and nutella is dead, then either we have a ninja killer or nutella redirected both of us off of herself and you watched the same target that I did, but the killer did not get redirected because nutella couldn't redirect them.

[ColinIsCool]

In nut's case she targeted a specific player, which we know was Chelsea at least on N1, and if Colin didn't get a new hood on N2 then it mightve just been Chelsea again

This was my reading of it based on nutella's flip but I will admit this is starting to get beyond me

I wish nutella was still here to tell you all I'm not smart enough to make all this shit up lol, I can only fake claim if somebody else claims and I just copy their claim

[WindwardAway]

Hey Colin, if you want someone to talk to you about their role, feel free to pick me since I'm already outed

[DeeZees]

im going sleep, I think I outted bad mech w/e dont think it helps much

[8] Guillotine: Schiavetto, Sabiplz, Valentine, LordQuas, Manny, Chelsea, Le petit poussin, nutella
[3] Cape90: risiinq-, Creature, WindwardAway
[3] Creature: Mungbean, DeeZees, falcon45ca
[2] Valentine: IBA, ColinIsCool
[1] Chelsea: Guillotine
[1] DeeZees: DaughterOfOmega
[1] Le petit poussin: TheFloyd73
[1] LordQuas: Inawordyes
[1] Mungbean: Cape90

agree re busters, they did not try to save guillo at all.

Potential other lunches were Creature/Cape. Creature I still think could be wolf, and Cape's voters have two town imo.

Oh worth saying here, if we think the bus plan was in action do we think he ditches a vote with Chelsea like that who then votes him? Kinda wanna clear her for that

[WindwardAway]

I know this is confusing as all hell but BELIEVE ME, when I say that I believe all of us except for the killer were redirected off nutella, it's for mechanical reasons according to nutella's role card, and also because I was told I saw a nexus.

[ColinIsCool]

Schiavetto has also been pretty adamant about wanting to get rid of me

[DeeZees]

@WindwardAway I think vote silencer killed Nutella and used their power on Chelsea? I don't understand how it works, but, the mafia faction was carried on to nutella by on of the 4 we know.

No, I would've been told there was a kill

lol nutella is dead though?

That's my point
I couldn't have gotten results on nutella, because nutella died, and I didn't see the kill
You watched nutella, you saw probably the same number of visitors that I did, including nutella herself
So if our information matches up, and nutella is dead, then either we have a ninja killer or nutella redirected both of us off of herself and you watched the same target that I did, but the killer did not get redirected because nutella couldn't redirect them.

ah of course. I got redirected.

....but....if I got redirected, and you got redirected, then @ColinIsCool should have a new neighbourhood . HE doesn't. So unless nut targetted cape we are back to square one.

I doubt its ninja vig because we'd see more kills(?) or the ninja nature would be redirected I assume and we'd know? meh maybe not

likely we're a bit fucked though because if its cape we'll never find out

[ColinIsCool]

Hey Colin, if you want someone to talk to you about their role, feel free to pick me since I'm already outed

[WindwardAway]

I'm trying to tread carefully because I know more about the roles in this game than probably anyone else does, and I don't want to out unnecessary info, but I want to help enough that we can solve or at least not pursue incorrect theories (which I admit I did to Colin within the first hour of the day because I'm dumb)

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway I think vote silencer killed Nutella and used their power on Chelsea? I don't understand how it works, but, the mafia faction was carried on to nutella by on of the 4 we know.

No, I would've been told there was a kill

lol nutella is dead though?

That's my point
I couldn't have gotten results on nutella, because nutella died, and I didn't see the kill
You watched nutella, you saw probably the same number of visitors that I did, including nutella herself
So if our information matches up, and nutella is dead, then either we have a ninja killer or nutella redirected both of us off of herself and you watched the same target that I did, but the killer did not get redirected because nutella couldn't redirect them.

ah of course. I got redirected.

....but....if I got redirected, and you got redirected, then @ColinIsCool should have a new neighbourhood . HE doesn't. So unless nut targetted cape we are back to square one.

I doubt its ninja vig because we'd see more kills(?) or the ninja nature would be redirected I assume and we'd know? meh maybe not

likely we're a bit fucked though because if its cape we'll never find out

Not if nutella picked Chelsea two nights in a row
Like, you can't neighborize someone with yourself if you've already neighborized them with yourself

[DeeZees]

@WindwardAway means we were redirected to Cape or Chelsea (again) is what matches with what you are saying?

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway means we were redirected to Cape or Chelsea (again) is what matches with what you are saying?

I don't know how to parse what you're asking
or if you're asking Colin or me

[DeeZees]

lol on me im tired

basically you said there's a vote canceller right? and that Chelsea has no vote?

where are you getting that info from?

[WindwardAway]

I mean
I get told ACTIONS
ninja is modifier
Kill is an action
Watch is an action
Neighborize is an action
Nexus is... well, not exactly an action, but it's hard to turn it into a verb

[WindwardAway]

lol on me im tired

basically you said there's a vote canceller right? and that Chelsea has no vote?

where are you getting that info from?

Because I saw a vote canceller as one of the visitors

[DeeZees]

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

no you didnt. fuck it, might be stupid im always bad at mech playing and im confused blame me if this goes wrong just seems right to out this now?

I watched who visited nut.

it was you, Nutella, Colin, and two more. One of you killed her. I think Nutella targetted herself, so all actions targetted her(?) seems weird can't work out why she'd do that.

I think the holes in Colin's story are:
- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion

I think you are town Windy. I dunno on the other two and gunna keep it to myself

I didn't want you to claim your role
I have information that fills in all the gaps in your knowledge and I didn't want to claim either, but now I have to because its better to give info

Last night, I saw a watcher (you), a neighborizer (probably Colin which is why I believe him), a vote-silencer (so I think Chelsea? cannot vote today), a nexus (this was nutella), a voyeur (myself), and a role I will not name because it is 100% town.

I saw NO KILL. I saw a kill action on N1 but none on N2 so I know I would've seen the kill if I had targeted nutella as planned. So I think she redirected all of us off herself and onto Chelsea, and the mafia kill went through on her.

[WindwardAway]

And idk if that's gonna show on the vote count or if it's a silent thing, like the vote shows but doesn't count toward hammer or plurality

[WindwardAway]

What I meant by that is that a vote canceller targeted nutella
And if nutella redirected us all off of her except for her killer, then the vote canceller also followed.

[WindwardAway]

I mean we can very easily confirm that I'm right by putting someone close to hammer and making Chelsea vote last and seeing if it hammers or not

I don't really want to play around with it right now, though

[DeeZees]

lol on me im tired

basically you said there's a vote canceller right? and that Chelsea has no vote?

where are you getting that info from?

Because I saw a vote canceller as one of the visitors

oh well this is easy.


we find out who doesn't have a vote today. that person should be Chelsea based on where we are at. or colin is lying.

baddabingbaddaboom

[DeeZees]

What I meant by that is that a vote canceller targeted nutella
And if nutella redirected us all off of her except for her killer, then the vote canceller also followed.

or targetted Chelsea, the only other option available to us.

[DeeZees]

vote canceller only works eod?

lame

[WindwardAway]

What I meant by that is that a vote canceller targeted nutella
And if nutella redirected us all off of her except for her killer, then the vote canceller also followed.

or targetted Chelsea, the only other option available to us.

Er yes actually, that makes a lot more sense
I wouldn't assume the vote canceller is town
And scum wouldn't use that on someone they're attempting to kill
Which would more or less confirm Chelsea as town, right?

[ColinIsCool]

me trying to understand the mech solve going on in this game

[WindwardAway]

vote canceller only works eod?

lame

Idk if it does or not, I was just taking a stab

[DeeZees]

What I meant by that is that a vote canceller targeted nutella
And if nutella redirected us all off of her except for her killer, then the vote canceller also followed.

or targetted Chelsea, the only other option available to us.

Er yes actually, that makes a lot more sense
I wouldn't assume the vote canceller is town
And scum wouldn't use that on someone they're attempting to kill
Which would more or less confirm Chelsea as town, right?

So between us we xan out one town and one scum if we chose to maybe because i know the names you know the roles