Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]

[Kate]

have fun guys! Good luck!!

It was so fun playing again an im so happy to have reconnected with my old buddies
And to have met some new ones... love you guys!

[Scotty]

have fun guys! Good luck!!

It was so fun playing again an im so happy to have reconnected with my old buddies
And to have met some new ones... love you guys!

Bye Kate! It was a pleasure playing with you too

[Michelle]

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

[Scotty]

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

Y’all had all of the night to think about it.

How does losing Kate factor into bea’s miselim?

[S~V~S]

I was secretly hoping y’all would pick Llama to come back, since he’s more on brand for the theme of this game and I thought his space apart from the game would have given him some fresh reads. But I get why y’all brought me back. Thanks.

So, before I launch into what I have observed from the great yonder (It’s cold and dark out there), I’d prefer to hear from players as to who their top suspects are as we start the day. I don’t want to color anyone’s reads.

RIP Kate

With Bea removed as as part of the G Man lynch cluster, I’m back where I was re Sloonei and not understanding how that lynch went down if Sloonei is a civ.

I feel ok about Wilgy, and Vivax. Sig and Faraday are slightly green question marks. Golden and Michelle are double question marks. I am feeling less than great about Sloonei and Quin.

I look forward to hearing your opinions.

[Sloonei]

I will not resist if I am the consensus choice today. I am frankly just exhausted. I feel as though I should be cleared for about four different reasons this game, but that is not happening for whatever reason.

I’m going to focus on finishing my G-man interaction analysis this phase. Whatever y’all want to do with me, fine. I do feel as though the game would benefit from seeing my flip and moving on, but I would obviously prefer we go after The Bad Guys.

[S~V~S]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

[Vivax]

Looks like we didn't get away from the night scots free

[S~V~S]

Also @Scotty why do you think you were NKed?

[Vivax]

First thoughts:

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

Not going to lie, that emoji makes me uncomfortable.

Change of plans we visit this town we are in now. Oh well...

RIP Fingers, now I read the results
Noted how Sig said her Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel

As does this pronoun usage for sig after doing an ISO looking for similar posts on a NK.

[Vivax]

caught up and just want to say that everything from Vivax so far today smells very stinky.

When Eloh starts speaking my language the tastes become of smooth butter.

@bea, you might need to start coaching your teammate

Thread feels like it wants to gaslight me into going after Sloon, Eloh and Wilgy.

I'm surprised gaslighting would be required for this.

*squints*

[sig]

11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

[sig]

I’ll have limited internet access this weekend so fair warning there

[Vivax]

11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

Quins EoD posts are so cheeky, first the carpet crawlers, now that Scotty vote. I don't like to lim cheekiness.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

[S~V~S]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

[S~V~S]

*Well not we’ll

[Vivax]

11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

Don't understand how being insaned clears DF for you

[Vivax]

I think he even might have faked being insaned cause I saw two players on that day posting like that iirc, and DF stuck out as a third to me that didn't look like he should've been.

But with the info we have now, only flipped town has been posting affected by the gibberish role. That's not info we had at the time you made that post, sig

[S~V~S]

I thought people who missed votes were the ones who were insanified?

[Vivax]

I thought people who missed votes were the ones who were insanified?

Not sure about that, and you aren't either, which is why this is off to me. Because it's worded as if sig's assuming that it only affects town, which is something town shouldn't know.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

[Vivax]

Worth noting I'm making these posts well aware both sig and Eloh are or were in the thread recently.

[Scotty]

I was secretly hoping y’all would pick Llama to come back, since he’s more on brand for the theme of this game and I thought his space apart from the game would have given him some fresh reads. But I get why y’all brought me back. Thanks.

So, before I launch into what I have observed from the great yonder (It’s cold and dark out there), I’d prefer to hear from players as to who their top suspects are as we start the day. I don’t want to color anyone’s reads.

RIP Kate

With Bea removed as as part of the G Man lynch cluster, I’m back where I was re Sloonei and not understanding how that lynch went down if Sloonei is a civ.

I feel ok about Wilgy, and Vivax. Sig and Faraday are slightly green question marks. Golden and Michelle are double question marks. I am feeling less than great about Sloonei and Quin.

I look forward to hearing your opinions.

Thanks SVS

Implicating wagons aside, do you think Sloonei in a vacuum has behaved uncivlike?

[Scotty]

I will not resist if I am the consensus choice today. I am frankly just exhausted. I feel as though I should be cleared for about four different reasons this game, but that is not happening for whatever reason.

I’m going to focus on finishing my G-man interaction analysis this phase. Whatever y’all want to do with me, fine. I do feel as though the game would benefit from seeing my flip and moving on, but I would obviously prefer we go after The Bad Guys.

[Scotty]

Looks like we didn't get away from the night scots free

[Vivax]

The thing about Sloonei is that he keeps oozing that aura of being in the game borderline involuntarily, while occasionally calling me mafia like he'd down a coffee during a break. Does mafia act like that I wonder ?

[Scotty]

Also @Scotty why do you think you were NKed?

Because I’m just too unresistable, obv

I’m surprised it took them this long. I was almost unanimously Townread. Why do you think I was killed?

[Scotty]

First thoughts:

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

Not going to lie, that emoji makes me uncomfortable.

Change of plans we visit this town we are in now. Oh well...

RIP Fingers, now I read the results
Noted how Sig said her Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel

As does this pronoun usage for sig after doing an ISO looking for similar posts on a NK.

I think she is saying sig said splints’ (she) iso doesn’t say much

[Sloonei]

The thing about Sloonei is that he keeps oozing that aura of being in the game borderline involuntarily, while occasionally calling me mafia like he'd down a coffee during a break. Does mafia act like that I wonder ?

That’s the fatigue I mentioned.

[Scotty]

11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

Being insaned means they just missed the vote. How does that clear anybody?

[S~V~S]

I was secretly hoping y’all would pick Llama to come back, since he’s more on brand for the theme of this game and I thought his space apart from the game would have given him some fresh reads. But I get why y’all brought me back. Thanks.

So, before I launch into what I have observed from the great yonder (It’s cold and dark out there), I’d prefer to hear from players as to who their top suspects are as we start the day. I don’t want to color anyone’s reads.

RIP Kate

With Bea removed as as part of the G Man lynch cluster, I’m back where I was re Sloonei and not understanding how that lynch went down if Sloonei is a civ.

I feel ok about Wilgy, and Vivax. Sig and Faraday are slightly green question marks. Golden and Michelle are double question marks. I am feeling less than great about Sloonei and Quin.

I look forward to hearing your opinions.

Thanks SVS

Implicating wagons aside, do you think Sloonei in a vacuum has behaved uncivlike?

Well, my feels on Sloonei are hard to explain. My read on him is based on what may be an outdated model. I found the Sloonei I knew to be a super aggressive civ to the point that I found him intimidating even when I was a civ, he was straightforward and data driven. Two things I am not lol. I have not seen that person, and the absence of that person is what led me to suspect him in the first place.

And it’s the exact same reason I suspected Bea. As I said, I’m having a crisis of confidence.

Then G Man appears to have suicided to save him. So on one hand I want to push my own thoughts aside, on the other .,. I dunno.

I’m tired and confused and sad Kate was taken out right after Bea, so I’m going to bed.

linki That’s why I hate obvious town reads being announced, but it also has benefits. I was hoping you would be able to point at a post or thing you said that might have, in retrospect, triggered them. I know that has happened to me a few times

[Vivax]

First thoughts:

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

Not going to lie, that emoji makes me uncomfortable.

Change of plans we visit this town we are in now. Oh well...

RIP Fingers, now I read the results
Noted how Sig said her Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel

As does this pronoun usage for sig after doing an ISO looking for similar posts on a NK.

I think she is saying sig said splints’ (she) iso doesn’t say much

Right, seems like I jumped the gun there. You can have my pinky for pointing that out, zombie-man

[Scotty]

11 players left 3 mafia.


We’re still in a good place thankfully. (Assuming Scotty isn’t mafia which I’d have assumed if he was vigged said vig would’ve been freaking out)

I’m leaning toward Michelle or Quin. Quin based off and Michelle is mainly gut.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

Don't understand how being insaned clears DF for you

Mind meld

[Vivax]

The thing about Sloonei is that he keeps oozing that aura of being in the game borderline involuntarily, while occasionally calling me mafia like he'd down a coffee during a break. Does mafia act like that I wonder ?

That’s the fatigue I mentioned.

Yeah, it's palpable. Part of why I don't really read too much into it as opposed to D1.

[Golden]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

[Golden]

Also @Scotty why do you think you were NKed?

Because I’m just too unresistable, obv

I’m surprised it took them this long. I was almost unanimously Townread. Why do you think I was killed?

If it makes you feel any better, I was still tinfoiling you when I died and I’m not any more.

[Golden]

RIP Kate, I hate to lose you right after bea.

[Golden]

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Votes are still changeable

[Golden]

The thing about Sloonei is that he keeps oozing that aura of being in the game borderline involuntarily, while occasionally calling me mafia like he'd down a coffee during a break. Does mafia act like that I wonder ?

That’s the fatigue I mentioned.

I forgot I was even playing mafia today and when I remembered I quite appreciated that I’d gone all day without thinking about it at all.

[Golden]

I thought people who missed votes were the ones who were insanified?

Not sure about that, and you aren't either, which is why this is off to me. Because it's worded as if sig's assuming that it only affects town, which is something town shouldn't know.

Bea’s flip semi clears DF for me since he was also insaned

What we *think* we know, and I’d be surprised if it’s incorrect (although it could be) is that breaking a rule gets you insanified according to the srs business tildes, and that the people who have been vowel cursed to date all failed to vote.

Correlation isn’t confirmation but it’s certainly a lot.

That doesn’t account for sig clearing DF for it.

[Michelle]

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

Y’all had all of the night to think about it.

How does losing Kate factor into bea’s miselim?

I was RL busy so all the night passed without analysis from me. Any info helps when I back read so the fact Kate was the NK hence town, is important. Not for the Bea mischop but for the game state

[Michelle]

First thoughts:

Welcome back Scotty!

Rip Kate I hope we'll play again!

I need time to think at what happened yesterday, taking into account the NK. Sleeping on it

Not going to lie, that emoji makes me uncomfortable.

Change of plans we visit this town we are in now. Oh well...

RIP Fingers, now I read the results
Noted how Sig said her Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel

As does this pronoun usage for sig after doing an ISO looking for similar posts on a NK.

If you put."Fingers" instead "her" the sentene is

"Noted how Sig said Finger's Iso doesn't tell much. I will read it too to check that after I come back at hotel"
Now I realise I didn't do that smh

I see the shade in your post, you only pointed my low use of English

[Michelle]

I was secretly hoping y’all would pick Llama to come back, since he’s more on brand for the theme of this game and I thought his space apart from the game would have given him some fresh reads. But I get why y’all brought me back. Thanks.

So, before I launch into what I have observed from the great yonder (It’s cold and dark out there), I’d prefer to hear from players as to who their top suspects are as we start the day. I don’t want to color anyone’s reads.

RIP Kate

With Bea removed as as part of the G Man lynch cluster, I’m back where I was re Sloonei and not understanding how that lynch went down if Sloonei is a civ.

I feel ok about Wilgy, and Vivax. Sig and Faraday are slightly green question marks. Golden and Michelle are double question marks. I am feeling less than great about Sloonei and Quin.

I look forward to hearing your opinions.

I know I was busy during the game and I couldn't have time to make cases on other players but I disagree with your other post "Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone."
I am sure I said I have town reads for Wilgy, Scotty and Sloonei and I also remember i had a few other reads. I could spend an hour on the game daily and that was the limit of the infos I could get.
That's why I preferred to sheep their reads.

[Michelle]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

Why are you fully with her about me?

I remember Sloonei said something in an interaction with you the other day but he didn't answer my question

I was AFK a lot of time and I am still AFK today because we visit my mother in law out of town but I am back tonight to talk to everyone.

[Quin]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?

[Golden]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

Why are you fully with her about me?

I remember Sloonei said something in an interaction with you the other day but he didn't answer my question

I was AFK a lot of time and I am still AFK today because we visit my mother in law out of town but I am back tonight to talk to everyone.

You’ve been nondescript. At this point it’s hard to see that you haven’t had a chance to generate some decent reads, but even when you’ve been asked directly you’ve been hedgy.

Who are top three most likely to be mafia right now?

[Golden]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?

I literally explained it above. Couldn’t be arsed dealing with ‘trying to save bea’ heat.

As it turned out bea was civ anyway, so lol.

[Quin]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?

I literally explained it above. Couldn’t be arsed dealing with ‘trying to save bea’ heat.

As it turned out bea was civ anyway, so lol.

Why does casing me have a higher chance of leading to 'trying to save bea' heat than voting for, say, DF? The person who you voted for?

[Golden]

@Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.

We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.

I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?

I literally explained it above. Couldn’t be arsed dealing with ‘trying to save bea’ heat.

As it turned out bea was civ anyway, so lol.

Why does casing me have a higher chance of leading to 'trying to save bea' heat than voting for, say, DF? The person who you voted for?

I didn’t vote for DF, and I didn’t case DF.

I did try and start a counterwagon on DF early in the day. I’ve talked at length about why. My vote was never ending anywhere but bea.

[Quin]

I don't care where your vote ended up, or what you intended to do at EoD. You tried to start a wagon on DF. Why are the risks starting a wagon on DF different than if you started a wagon on Quin?