Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[Lilypetal]

what kind of 3ps does dizzy tend to make? are they usually townsided roles? neutral? killing? rondo is probs a 3p

why would rondo be a 3p? personality does not equal 3p behavior imo

what kind of 3ps does dizzy tend to make? are they usually townsided roles? neutral? killing? rondo is probs a 3p

oh?

You really think a 3p would play like a 3p? It was just a meme.

I just get accused of being 3p because of how I play.

Mighty ducks is an example, It just happened to be right for the wrong reasons

well no that's why i was saying to illario that imo you're a villager and that's just ur personality

[staypositivefriend]

there is really no point in getting passive aggressive with me because i rejected you saying that i am always mafia if aro is town tbh, this is basic common sense and you are the one making it dramatic when it doesn't need to be

[MacDougall]

hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you

[Lilypetal]

i do not think spf's handling of me is wolfy at all btw

i feel the same way as her, they can both be town but I find it more likely that aro is a wolf

[staypositivefriend]

hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you

im not sure why you think this would be a productive thing to post

[MacDougall]

there is really no point in getting passive aggressive with me because i rejected you saying that i am always mafia if aro is town tbh, this is basic common sense and you are the one making it dramatic when it doesn't need to be

Aro is almost always mafia if you and tilg aren't.

You think aro is probably wolfy for the vote anyway.

I said it was far more likely to be aro than you.

Rather than letting the read stand on its exceedingly logical merits and heap more pressure onto someone you have as in your null list you literally decided to say "I reject this read" which is just exceedingly tilting to me.

If you cannot see why your decision to make a dramatic rebuke of a d1 mac read of this persuasion would be disappointing then you are a wolf frankly.

[Lilypetal]

getting some big spiritfarer vibes rn

[RondoDimBuckle]

i do not think spf's handling of me is wolfy at all btw

i feel the same way as her, they can both be town but I find it more likely that aro is a wolf

Can you show me specifics? I kinda breezed through only looking for things about me since it was 15 pages

[RondoDimBuckle]

hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you

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[MacDougall]

hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you

im not sure why you think this would be a productive thing to post

inspire you to kill a wolf

[MacDougall]

getting some big spiritfarer vibes rn

How is this anything like that? You are just being antagonistic saying this. This dynamic is entirely different.

[MacDougall]

there is really no point in getting passive aggressive with me because i rejected you saying that i am always mafia if aro is town tbh, this is basic common sense and you are the one making it dramatic when it doesn't need to be

Aro is almost always mafia if you and tilg aren't.

You think aro is probably wolfy for the vote anyway.

I said it was far more likely to be aro than you.

Rather than letting the read stand on its exceedingly logical merits and heap more pressure onto someone you have as in your null list you literally decided to say "I reject this read" which is just exceedingly tilting to me.

If you cannot see why your decision to make a dramatic rebuke of a d1 mac read of this persuasion would be disappointing then you are a wolf frankly.

Correction if lily and tilg aren't.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

Sad uwu

[ilario]

man i just skimmed tilgs first few posts in finals and their first few posts here and theyre probably just out of scumrange this game

which means theres a pretty decent chance my previous town list has a wolf in it but i really cbf figuring out who rn

[MacDougall]

Like aro is scumread by a range of people.

If arogame flips wolf and you're town you're pre-emptively saying I was wrong to assume there was a dichotomy.

It doesn't make sense because it's a probability and wagonomics oriented read. Unless you think that when lhf town get 3 votes middle day 1 it's usually NOT with a wolf voting you're arguing thin air just to annoy me tbh.

[Lilypetal]

getting some big spiritfarer vibes rn

How is this anything like that? You are just being antagonistic saying this. This dynamic is entirely different.

i'm being antagonistic? i am referencing the fact that the way you all are interacting and playing individually makes me think you're v/v

[ilario]

they dont seem wolfy but they also dont seem like they care about winning for town

You say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.

i dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking around

ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me

[staypositivefriend]

tbh i can admit that my initial reaction of: "i reject this difference check" was a bit of an overstatement because i was annoyed that it felt like u were setting me up to push on me in a world where aro flips town

but i agreed with you that aro has a higher chance of being mafia if lily is town and i even agreed that your reasoning was fine so im not sure what you want from me, it just seems like you are being needlessly antagonistic for no reason

i will proly not continue to discussion past here

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

How's the vibe been slash is jt worth being here for the next 20 minutes

[RondoDimBuckle]

they dont seem wolfy but they also dont seem like they care about winning for town

You say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.

i dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking around

ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me

My questions werent just fucking around I saw something I wanted an answer for

[RondoDimBuckle]

How's the vibe been slash is jt worth being here for the next 20 minutes

what are you norse?

[ilario]

they dont seem wolfy but they also dont seem like they care about winning for town

You say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.

i dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking around

ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me

My questions werent just fucking around I saw something I wanted an answer for

aight ill give u answers after u post a reads list with explanations

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

How's the vibe been slash is jt worth being here for the next 20 minutes

what are you norse?

Irish so

Close enough

[RondoDimBuckle]

they dont seem wolfy but they also dont seem like they care about winning for town

You say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.

i dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking around

ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me

My questions werent just fucking around I saw something I wanted an answer for

aight ill give u answers after u post a reads list with explanations

Well I guess we will both be waiting for each other

[Lilypetal]

actually

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

my concern about lily is that her posts so far have awkward energy and the TR on aro felt unnatural

naook illario and alison are all town

lilypetal and aro contains one mafia

gn

Okay, spf has the same townreads as me LOL. Probs town.

@staypositivefriend walk me through your read on Lily. I was leaning town on them tbhtbh. Other than that I feel like Im totally vibing with your no explanation reads *dab*

i thought it was awkward that she was maintaining a presence in the thread across multiple hours but didn't seem to know what to say, and i took the abrupt townread on aro to be her attempt to integrate herself into the game by posting a random townread on another player

i mean like, i think she could still easily be town. i'm not sold on her being mafia based on those 5 posts lol, i just felt that she had the worst entrance out of pretty much everyone who was posting last night

lily what made you townread aro last night in the first place?

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

do you think lily is town?

i think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yet

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

do you think lily is town?

i think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yet

do you think arogame's reason for voting lily was reasonable?

arogame's reasoning was basically just: "i agree with SPF", and tilg's reasoning was more or less exactly the same

i dont think that both of them are mafia (most likely), so choosing to vote for lily based on my push on her is not inherently unreasonable, if that makes sense. i think the reason why the chances of there being a wolf in aro/tilg increase if lily is town is because i think lily was an easy target for a wolf trying to get integrated into the game to park their vote on, but i dont think the reasoning itself is much of a problem

@RondoDimBuckle

this progression just felt towny compared to aro's progression on me. can't rly describe why just felt like how she was handling me was distinctly different from when she wolves. kinda one of those things that only I can really understand fully because it's from my experiences

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Irish in the American sense that my great grandmother was born there so now I say I'm Irish despite never having met her and never having been to Ireland

Still counts tho

[Alison]

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i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore

what made you change your mind on Ilario?

Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.

i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:

1. townread me weirdly quickly

2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")

3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation

4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me

there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily

ur townread on mac is fine and i agree

ur townread on illario i just discussed

ur townread on nook is fine and i agree

dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something

dont have a read on ender yet

think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town

You are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?

well to be clear, at the time i made that post, i did think that aro was town because the way he reacted to my push on him was out of character and overly aggressive in a way i thought was town indicative

but then once he revealed it was a reaction test then i felt less good about the townread because i realized it wasn't him authentically just getting angry about him pushing on me but him putting on a performance to make it "look" like he was angry, which i guess i read as less towny by default

so tbh i actually am rather torn on aro's alignment at the moment - i think his content has broadly been "fine" but dont really perceive him to have done anything particularly town indicative, and i think he's the type of player ill figure out more easily as the game goes on

i do also want to note that my only real concern about alison's posts so far is how she wolfread aro for his reaction testing being "performative" as though performative isnt the laziest buzzword of all time that doesnt really tell me anything about your actual thoughts behind aro's posts. felt shallow in a way that alison's reads typically are not, but i got the sense there was more behind her scumread on aro that she wasn't really explaining

I think he cared more about making a big deal of reaction testing you than actually reaction testing you. That's what I meant by performative.

There's also the part where I have disagreed with virtually everything he has said.

[Alison]

a hot take that i have is that i actually lightly scumread Belzy. i think that he sounds okay on a tonal level but the actual content of his posts is generally disjointed and the way that he handled his suspicion of the wisp slot in particular didnt really feel like it came from the perspective of someone who cared about wisp's alignment

Could you give some examples re wisp?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

if anyone can recommend me which ISOs are the most relevant I'll probs start there but if not i'll probably check santy's cuz i like him and he's the other wagon

Well obviously mine.

jk my iso never matters

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1

ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me

Aww you like me?

You can tunnel me anyways I won't get mad. UwU.

[Porscha]

getting some big spiritfarer vibes rn

yeah this is the best way to describe it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

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i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore

what made you change your mind on Ilario?

Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.

i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:

1. townread me weirdly quickly

2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")

3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation

4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me

there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily

ur townread on mac is fine and i agree

ur townread on illario i just discussed

ur townread on nook is fine and i agree

dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something

dont have a read on ender yet

think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town

You are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?

well to be clear, at the time i made that post, i did think that aro was town because the way he reacted to my push on him was out of character and overly aggressive in a way i thought was town indicative

but then once he revealed it was a reaction test then i felt less good about the townread because i realized it wasn't him authentically just getting angry about him pushing on me but him putting on a performance to make it "look" like he was angry, which i guess i read as less towny by default

so tbh i actually am rather torn on aro's alignment at the moment - i think his content has broadly been "fine" but dont really perceive him to have done anything particularly town indicative, and i think he's the type of player ill figure out more easily as the game goes on

i do also want to note that my only real concern about alison's posts so far is how she wolfread aro for his reaction testing being "performative" as though performative isnt the laziest buzzword of all time that doesnt really tell me anything about your actual thoughts behind aro's posts. felt shallow in a way that alison's reads typically are not, but i got the sense there was more behind her scumread on aro that she wasn't really explaining

This seems performative.

[Porscha]

getting some big spiritfarer vibes rn

How is this anything like that? You are just being antagonistic saying this. This dynamic is entirely different.

is it

[Alison]

Lilypetal's content has been bad

I get a headache reading the rest of you talk and am finding it harder and harder to care about the stuff that's happened the last 3 pages

goodnight

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[unvote]Lily[/unvote]

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Will I explain this naked vote rn? No, because I’m at a hockey game. I’ll give thoughts later but spf is pretty townie here and so is rondo

Lily is a bit better, but will keep my eye there still.

[VOTE: Aro] aubergine

Oh Mai gawd u sucksssss

But also this post is actually just bad.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

i have no idea how to read neon but i trust that lily and santy are both probably not wrong about her tbh so im not voting her today

The answer is simple.

But also complex.

Like me.

[Lilypetal]

Lilypetal's content has been bad

I get a headache reading the rest of you talk and am finding it harder and harder to care about the stuff that's happened the last 3 pages

goodnight

what's new

[Alison]

think ppl who say neon are town are either town and likely to be right, or mafia and likely to be tmi

therefore neon town

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

i have no idea how to read neon but i trust that lily and santy are both probably not wrong about her tbh so im not voting her today

Eh I wouldn't say 100% sheep my read but I think I'm okay at reading her in a micro sense. I wouldn't touch her today at least

why?

cuz i think she's obv town but obv town in the sense that maybe she pocketed me with a few things like the negative reaction to tilg's vote on me and asking me to play ow so i might be compromised

Neon does uwu cute girl things as both alignments so I've should read outside that yes.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

tbh i didnt really have any thoughts of it at first but now that i find spf kinda wolfy i start to wonder if it was theatre lol

That's where my brain was going with it

eh i guess this kinda checks out with your iso. can you go into more of your individual reads on aro and spf and what was the dumb reason why srs aro + tilg earlier

I kinda talked about my dumb reasons. Tbf I'm not really buying into them anymore.

It's out of my comfort zone to try to scum hunt anyways lol I prefer town hunting.

Spf/Aro thing just always felt weird to me and it's something I could potentially see them doing as theatre early. I haven't particularly found either to be exceptionally towny but it is early.

ah okay, who are your trs?

Porscha
Mac
Ender

That's kinda it so far.

Why Ender?

There was a reason which I've now forgotten so I will say vibes. It's probably best to read ender the opposite of me since I've been wrong on ender in every game we've played. Ever.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Well presumably you should know by now because multiple people have told you.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

Actual footage of me and Mac having the same thought process.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine

You've fallen for my trap card.

confirmed, sleepy and boring

uwu

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

/shrug
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then

When Rondo plays this way he usually self resolves because if town he ends up spewed clear by wolves who have nfi what to do with him. Or he just keeps being a chaos goblin and is mafia.

good to know I guess, but I dont do well with chaos goblins

Your really gonna hate me than lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I mean people town read bad play, it's not all that uncommon. You backed it up with they are vibing, hoe hard is it to note vibe as a wolf, unlike you I don't have the meta, but I also don't think they are a wolf, so I really don't care honestly

I want rondo dead

It's not bad play to chill in thread vibe and fuck around in a game. People take this game way to seriously. Porscha can win games but like I am just telling you your sus on her right now is predicated on a read that is bad from my pov.

I'm giving you meta which you don't have. Porscha can be wolf but this isn't why and is more likely town indicative in my world view.

ya except I'm not sussing her, and fine

True your sussing Rondo. Another person who does weird things as town lol.

Lmao, this is exactly what I mean
You defend bad play

I've watched Rondo single handedly solve a game that town was going to lose

So. No.

I've also watched Rondo post only in Hot Fuzz gifs.

Is someone who can single handedly solve a game that town is going to lose a bad player because they do weird things?

I am still low key mad I got night killed while posting only gifs

[VOTE: ilario ] aubergine

It was at least partially because I was terrified of you after King of the Hill so you should be happy lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

arogame's reasoning was basically just: "i agree with SPF", and tilg's reasoning was more or less exactly the same

i dont think that both of them are mafia (most likely), so choosing to vote for lily based on my push on her is not inherently unreasonable, if that makes sense. i think the reason why the chances of there being a wolf in aro/tilg increase if lily is town is because i think lily was an easy target for a wolf trying to get integrated into the game to park their vote on, but i dont think the reasoning itself is much of a problem

my reasoning is no different if not even less contextual so I don't know why you felt the need to dramatically reject it

i rejected the existence of the dichotomy (or trichotomy) but not the read itself

very disappointing decision making if you are town

i agree that being reluctant to accept that i am a "straight up difference check" with a player who i barely have a read on roughly halfway through d1 is a bad way to play mafia and not just common sense

if tilgarial is town and lily is town there is almost always 1 between you

instead of accepting this to made yet another dramatic grandstand against the way I make reads

i have said multiple times t hat i think aro has a mildly higher chance of being mafia in a world where lily is town, but that i reject the implication that a world where aro is town is a world where i'm always mafia. it is extremely simple and i don't know why youre making a thing of it

Hmmm....

I hate this.

[arogame123]

Ok, I’m back and I have some general thoughts and I want to make this very clear so town doesn’t go down the wrong path if this occurs.

The issue with this game is there have been some dichotomies in place and somehow I keep seeing my name throughout today in all of them. I agreed that Lily was a bit better, I believe that SPF is just town at this point and I feel pretty confident about it. I’m not sure on tilg and more so had them null-scum in the beginning.

So for people thinking there has to be a mafia in me, spf, and tilg based on Lily’s alignment if she’s town isn’t what I want to happen.

Like if I die, my legacy is to never kill spf and I will be upset if that happens tbh. Idk about tilg, but if tilg is town, then this “trio dichotomy” is game losing and I want to put a lot of emphasis into how much I believe that pikachu is town so that people don’t go after her if I somehow die.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

tbh i can admit that my initial reaction of: "i reject this difference check" was a bit of an overstatement because i was annoyed that it felt like u were setting me up to push on me in a world where aro flips town

but i agreed with you that aro has a higher chance of being mafia if lily is town and i even agreed that your reasoning was fine so im not sure what you want from me, it just seems like you are being needlessly antagonistic for no reason

i will proly not continue to discussion past here

I like this one though so the other one doesn't matter anymore.

[Lilypetal]

to never kill spf? you tr her that hard?

[arogame123]

[unvote]Lily[/unvote]

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Will I explain this naked vote rn? No, because I’m at a hockey game. I’ll give thoughts later but spf is pretty townie here and so is rondo

Lily is a bit better, but will keep my eye there still.

[VOTE: Aro] aubergine

Oh Mai gawd u sucksssss

But also this post is actually just bad.

Why is this post “actually bad”?