Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[MacDougall]

actually i townread neon more confidently than neon but it doesnt matter

when did this start, cuz it wasn't that long ago your read on neon was pure santy/lily sheep?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Actually, I take that back, Ender does <mumble grumble>

Get burnt a hundred times and eventually you'll learn to not stick your foot in the fire. =P

Here, have an ice pack, forget all your woes

[staypositivefriend]

Experiment time

Aro
Belzy
Ender
Neon
Rondo

Are these all town?

@staypositivefriend what do you think of this?

hm

the name in that list that immediately stands out to me as having the highest chance of being mafia is belzy. this is because it appears to me that this entire playerlist has collectively cleared belzy off of Good Vibes and Sounding Pure (to my understanding anyway), and i think that type of reasoning makes belzy particularly likely to be the deepwolf out of all the potential deepwolves in your list

agreed that rondo and neon and ender are town roughly in that order. i was POE'ing ender but am being influenced/agreeing with the recent consensus that his posts have been an improvement. read on aro is REDACTED until further notice

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'll try though

Fuckkkk

Okay Lily in my experience does these little things where she comes off as pure inno child as town. They are trying to solve relaxed vibing. Bouncing off me and Porscha and others naturally. I think all the sus on lily was based on nothingness for no reason when she was at 5 posts and clearly not present and her reactions to that sus when she came back felt real and she saw things I thought I was seeing to with Aro especially.

Tilg I'm not really confident on I'm never confident on scum reads but their approach to the lily vote just screamed at me... I've got the feeling they've been attempting to fit in and not stand out like they are following the flow of others and not willing to make a read or push on their own and I generally don't think that town always try to stand with others and occasionally even if just one or two times will make an independent read or thought.

shes just so obviously town it's not even funny

please copy paste this day 5 when we lose lylo to neon

nah I agree Neon is probably town this time

Can I ask why? Or is that a dumb thing to do lol

I'd rather not. Not a dumb thing to do or dumb question to ask, I'd just rather not.

Fair and valid I will drop it.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@EnderWiggin there are girls here, come pick me up

Go pick them up instead.

[EnderWiggin]

Well I already explained the first question

The aro read exists because it felt like he didn’t know how to naturally open into the thread so he defaulted into asking that question to ease himself in. Some of the explanations to his reads and the process behind it has felt reachy and he’s felt overly-explainey at times

Mac already did it, not you explain to me why Rondo is town
do we at least agree with Sean?
I dont feel like back reading and i want to go to sleep

rondo felt town because his response to alisons pressure wasnt overly panicky. his tone in general seems calm/at ease. i dont have much of a read on sean, if people want him then then i have no issue with that atm

Hello, this is the Rondo police telling you that Rondo is not going to panic under pressure and that's a bad read.

Enders entrance and subsequent posts have been very... Ender so far. But I like this post

What does "Very Ender" mean?

like you are trying to draw suspicion but you know I am in the game so you know thats what I would think so is it performative or are you just rocking it out? ATM leaning towards the latter

Any thoughts on the impromptu town bloc of Mac/Me/Aro/Neon?

[arogame123]

I wished Belzy would go more in depth with their read on Wisp and Alison tho when I asked them because I wanted to better understand why they felt the way they did and didn’t get as much :/

If you’re still there @Belzy I’d appreciate if u can dive into more on ur Alison/Wisp sr and why u feel the way u do.

I know u said you’d wait for wisp to post more but I also want to see why their recent posting didn’t change the needle for u.

Curious what other people thought about Belzy here not expanding on the jntial sr they had on Alison/Wisp?

ThAts my main issue with the slot rn but hopefully they’ll respond at some point with more in-depth reasoning there

[MacDougall]

Experiment time

Aro
Belzy
Ender
Neon
Rondo

Are these all town?

@staypositivefriend what do you think of this?

hm

the name in that list that immediately stands out to me as having the highest chance of being mafia is belzy. this is because it appears to me that this entire playerlist has collectively cleared belzy off of Good Vibes and Sounding Pure (to my understanding anyway), and i think that type of reasoning makes belzy particularly likely to be the deepwolf out of all the potential deepwolves in your list

agreed that rondo and neon and ender are town roughly in that order. i was POE'ing ender but am being influenced/agreeing with the recent consensus that his posts have been an improvement. read on aro is REDACTED until further notice

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

why are you not okay with sheeping the consensus on belzy but you're fine with sheeping the townreads santy and lily have given on neon?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

actually i townread neon more confidently than neon but it doesnt matter

more confidently than RONDO

i need to go to sleep

The first one was probably true to tbh

[staypositivefriend]

actually i townread neon more confidently than neon but it doesnt matter

when did this start, cuz it wasn't that long ago your read on neon was pure santy/lily sheep?

i dunno i just find her posts over the last couple of pages in particular really towny

[EnderWiggin]

@ilario , let's assume 5 combined mafia/3p.

Leaves at least 13 town and with 18 without vig shots or anything, we have 8 kills. So a 10 towncore would do.

My towns that I have rn (different confidences) are Aro, Mac, Illario, SPF, Nanook, Wisp, Ender, Rondo.

Any thoughts on that list so far and do you have any opnions on anyone else that I don't have in there? I want to dominate this game hehe.

hmmm id defs have alison in there, in all honesty shes the only read i feel good about.

whilst i agree spf,nook,ender,rondo for me personally have shown signs of towniness + belsy as well i dont feel like any of those names has done anytihing lock worthy. also imo its better to wait to form towncores until everyones posted to avoid bias

I like this post, I prefer to wait till we have some flips too but yeah

Actually wait how did you get from "SPF/Ender towny" to "I'll vote SPF/Ender today"?

What?

That was at illario not you.

[arogame123]

@ilario , let's assume 5 combined mafia/3p.

Leaves at least 13 town and with 18 without vig shots or anything, we have 8 kills. So a 10 towncore would do.

My towns that I have rn (different confidences) are Aro, Mac, Illario, SPF, Nanook, Wisp, Ender, Rondo.

Any thoughts on that list so far and do you have any opnions on anyone else that I don't have in there? I want to dominate this game hehe.

hmmm id defs have alison in there, in all honesty shes the only read i feel good about.

whilst i agree spf,nook,ender,rondo for me personally have shown signs of towniness + belsy as well i dont feel like any of those names has done anytihing lock worthy. also imo its better to wait to form towncores until everyones posted to avoid bias

I like this post, I prefer to wait till we have some flips too but yeah

Actually wait how did you get from "SPF/Ender towny" to "I'll vote SPF/Ender today"?

What?

He was asking about Ilario, not u lol

[MacDougall]

I wished Belzy would go more in depth with their read on Wisp and Alison tho when I asked them because I wanted to better understand why they felt the way they did and didn’t get as much :/

If you’re still there @Belzy I’d appreciate if u can dive into more on ur Alison/Wisp sr and why u feel the way u do.

I know u said you’d wait for wisp to post more but I also want to see why their recent posting didn’t change the needle for u.

Curious what other people thought about Belzy here not expanding on the jntial sr they had on Alison/Wisp?

ThAts my main issue with the slot rn but hopefully they’ll respond at some point with more in-depth reasoning there

Belzy just feels like a town in the purest sense. Like they are approaching the game with no knowledge whatsoever.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm temporarily retracting my SPF thought @MacDougall

[staypositivefriend]

Experiment time

Aro
Belzy
Ender
Neon
Rondo

Are these all town?

@staypositivefriend what do you think of this?

hm

the name in that list that immediately stands out to me as having the highest chance of being mafia is belzy. this is because it appears to me that this entire playerlist has collectively cleared belzy off of Good Vibes and Sounding Pure (to my understanding anyway), and i think that type of reasoning makes belzy particularly likely to be the deepwolf out of all the potential deepwolves in your list

agreed that rondo and neon and ender are town roughly in that order. i was POE'ing ender but am being influenced/agreeing with the recent consensus that his posts have been an improvement. read on aro is REDACTED until further notice

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

why are you not okay with sheeping the consensus on belzy but you're fine with sheeping the townreads santy and lily have given on neon?

im not sure that anyone in this game is repping a townread on belzy with the same level of confidence that lily/blade/etc are repping on neon but you can correct me if im wrong

[staypositivefriend]

I'm temporarily retracting my SPF thought @MacDougall

i think this makes u townier tbh

[Porscha]

@Porscha what are ur thoughts on the game so far?

If you tr me, why aren’t you defending for me harder?
It seems u have a tr on me but don’t seem keen on convincing others to feel the same way. Maybe I’m over exaggerating, but it feels like with me being top wagon, that you don’t seem to Interested in trying to defend me.

I wouldnt call it a TR
And it's hardly a defense to say something you've done is something I consider NAI
I'm wary of you especially early so I'm not keen on being overly graceful
Also you only have 2 votes right now? I wouldnt call that top wagon status to worry about

I had 3 at the time I said that.

And that’s the thing is you were quick to tr me and felt better about it from what I saw, but I also know that you’re very wary around my slot a lot, so I was curious why you felt the way u did but then didn’t overly defend.

And you say it’s NAI, but you were tr me for certain reasons earlier and discussed it a bit lol.

But I will ask u, what’s ur pov/gamestate rn?

If I qualified you earlier, the most I would have given was a TL which I'm sure you're aware of specifically because I am wary of you

I'm on mobile so this is off the cuff thoughts and yes I will forget people, this time I am sorry:
Lily obvious town one day you guys will get it
Spf I have had a couple moments of agreement/clarity in their posts so despite my fear she can have TL for now. You and her are like paired in my mind
Belzy I masoned with in syn champs in january, it's been a long time, but iirc they are playing at least somewhat similar to that game, but I think that is only based on tone
Wisp literally gave me a headache from the amount of posts, of which maybe 50% contain what could be called content if you peer closely. Dont have meta, willing to take your comment about him usually have pride in wolf play take into consideration at this point and just say sure
I begrudgingly think sean might actually be town and I'm probably just kicking rocks over not having the same way to solve him every game
Nook I generally give TR to until he gives me a reason not to
I literally do not have the slightest idea on how ilario plays but I've seen a few points against him that dont make them look great but idk
I feel good about being able to find town mac and I think he is more likely town here
I'm literally donkey at reading santy so I need more time on him
Ender felt tonally good at first but I found his reasoning to sus me of "usually I vibe with porscha posts but not rn" to be pretty weak. Dont know if town ender just doesnt find himself mind melding as much as usual or if this is wolf ender attempting to set me up for ML at some point
Neon has moved from Administrative TL II to Administrative TL I in the meantime

I feel like I forgot someone who's been talking but my brain is fried and I'm going to sleep sorry to whoever I forgot about

[staypositivefriend]

also blade to answer your question, im not sure that im going to be able to quantify my current townlean on you with reasons that extent beyond: "his energy is good and he does not seem awkward and like he dreads posting in the thread at every moment like he typically seems to as mafia". it just feels right to me at the moment tbh

[staypositivefriend]

i have shifted to a Vibes Based reads philosophy. logic is for cowards

[Lilypetal]

[VOTE: santygrass] aubergine

awooooooooooooooooooooo

Ur vote and post aside, I want u to know pikachu that every time u post, I get super excited in the game and enjoy having convos/playing with u and just wanted u to know that hehe.

u have to be the most sus man alive but like not necessarily in a derogatory way

lol what? Idek what that means

I'm just going back and forth on if ur a wolf and I keep thinking you're being rly pockety towards spf lol idk

[MacDougall]

Okay here's the rub. Over the next hour or so we are going to create a towncore. Now the aim here isn't necessarily to make a perfect towncore (although i mean don't try to not) but moreso to create a group of players who we as a group ourselves agree to treat as town for the rest of the day phase, make a commitment to treating in good faith and withhold any and all tinfoil for the remainder of the day.

The list so far is my previously posted list and I have now added lilypetal to it.

We do not need too many more, but I don't mind if we do add more. For that reason @EnderWiggin given you suggested SPF and are now seemingly a bit sus of her, I am going to give you the decision as to whether or not to incorporate SPF into the towncore. If you say yes, I will treat SPF as town for the rest of this phase.

I do not want to arbitrarily add anyone else without really polling the entire crew first and really pressing that slot for logic. So it's not a matter of just lobbing your own townreads into the list willy nilly either.

If you don't agree to the directions that's fine, I'm still gonna keep you in the list and commit to treating you as town.

[EnderWiggin]

also blade to answer your question, im not sure that im going to be able to quantify my current townlean on you with reasons that extent beyond: "his energy is good and he does not seem awkward and like he dreads posting in the thread at every moment like he typically seems to as mafia". it just feels right to me at the moment tbh

Did I look like I dread posting in thread as mafia in Champs when I was constantly one of the top posters and snowed everyone but you called me correctly from spec?

[Lilypetal]

Also just curious Lily with neon’s post it reminded me, did u ever look at the progression I posted about you and why I felt the way u did?

I read it and understood where u were coming from

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mac already did it, not you explain to me why Rondo is town
do we at least agree with Sean?
I dont feel like back reading and i want to go to sleep

rondo felt town because his response to alisons pressure wasnt overly panicky. his tone in general seems calm/at ease. i dont have much of a read on sean, if people want him then then i have no issue with that atm

Hello, this is the Rondo police telling you that Rondo is not going to panic under pressure and that's a bad read.

Enders entrance and subsequent posts have been very... Ender so far. But I like this post

What does "Very Ender" mean?

like you are trying to draw suspicion but you know I am in the game so you know thats what I would think so is it performative or are you just rocking it out? ATM leaning towards the latter

Any thoughts on the impromptu town bloc of Mac/Me/Aro/Neon?

What?

I dunno, Mac I am ok with he doesnt feel like he is a power wolf knowing he is going to go over and spewing the thread with nonsense (like Hot fuzz? I dunno he did it recently) I have engaged counterfoil on him. You I am never solid on, Aro I know is capable of some solid wolfing (Props again for KotH), Neon same statement. I dont specifically wolf read them atm but I honestly havent been trying to carve out a town or wolf list just yet.

But what are the [REDACTED] that [REDACTED] of [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] you know?

[MacDougall]

Experiment time

Aro
Belzy
Ender
Neon
Rondo

Are these all town?

@staypositivefriend what do you think of this?

hm

the name in that list that immediately stands out to me as having the highest chance of being mafia is belzy. this is because it appears to me that this entire playerlist has collectively cleared belzy off of Good Vibes and Sounding Pure (to my understanding anyway), and i think that type of reasoning makes belzy particularly likely to be the deepwolf out of all the potential deepwolves in your list

agreed that rondo and neon and ender are town roughly in that order. i was POE'ing ender but am being influenced/agreeing with the recent consensus that his posts have been an improvement. read on aro is REDACTED until further notice

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

why are you not okay with sheeping the consensus on belzy but you're fine with sheeping the townreads santy and lily have given on neon?

im not sure that anyone in this game is repping a townread on belzy with the same level of confidence that lily/blade/etc are repping on neon but you can correct me if im wrong

@Lilypetal @santygrass how many times have you correctly read neon as mafia?

[arogame123]

Ok, updated reads list, fingers crossed

Town:
Mac
SPF
Rondo
Lily

Leaning Town:
Illario
Ender
Wisp
Neon
Belzy

Null:
Nanook
Seanzie
Chamil

POE/Mafia:
Alison
Dya
Tilg
Porscha
Santy

[staypositivefriend]

also blade to answer your question, im not sure that im going to be able to quantify my current townlean on you with reasons that extent beyond: "his energy is good and he does not seem awkward and like he dreads posting in the thread at every moment like he typically seems to as mafia". it just feels right to me at the moment tbh

Did I look like I dread posting in thread as mafia in Champs when I was constantly one of the top posters and snowed everyone but you called me correctly from spec?

actually .....yes? you certainly did seem awkward and uncomfortable to me which is why i was able to correctly read you in spec chat

[EnderWiggin]

Wait actually I don't remember which EMers correctly called me from spec. I might be mixing people up because I just remembered it was Neo who was super vocal about me being scum in spec.

[staypositivefriend]

i know it isn't the same spectating the game and actually being in it, though. i just think your energy feels like town and in terms of reading you on d1 in a 17p game that is good enough for me at the moment

[RondoDimBuckle]

I wished Belzy would go more in depth with their read on Wisp and Alison tho when I asked them because I wanted to better understand why they felt the way they did and didn’t get as much :/

If you’re still there @Belzy I’d appreciate if u can dive into more on ur Alison/Wisp sr and why u feel the way u do.

I know u said you’d wait for wisp to post more but I also want to see why their recent posting didn’t change the needle for u.

Curious what other people thought about Belzy here not expanding on the jntial sr they had on Alison/Wisp?

ThAts my main issue with the slot rn but hopefully they’ll respond at some point with more in-depth reasoning there

Ok what the fuck js this? I am watching you.

[MacDougall]

@arogame123 can you please try to make an argument for why SPF is in your top tier of townreads? Make it like you're a wolf shielding a teammate lol.

[Lilypetal]

@staypositivefriend what do you think of this?

hm

the name in that list that immediately stands out to me as having the highest chance of being mafia is belzy. this is because it appears to me that this entire playerlist has collectively cleared belzy off of Good Vibes and Sounding Pure (to my understanding anyway), and i think that type of reasoning makes belzy particularly likely to be the deepwolf out of all the potential deepwolves in your list

agreed that rondo and neon and ender are town roughly in that order. i was POE'ing ender but am being influenced/agreeing with the recent consensus that his posts have been an improvement. read on aro is REDACTED until further notice

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

why are you not okay with sheeping the consensus on belzy but you're fine with sheeping the townreads santy and lily have given on neon?

im not sure that anyone in this game is repping a townread on belzy with the same level of confidence that lily/blade/etc are repping on neon but you can correct me if im wrong

@Lilypetal @santygrass how many times have you correctly read neon as mafia?

Only played vs her once and she was the one wolf I didn't catch before I was mled

[EnderWiggin]

also blade to answer your question, im not sure that im going to be able to quantify my current townlean on you with reasons that extent beyond: "his energy is good and he does not seem awkward and like he dreads posting in the thread at every moment like he typically seems to as mafia". it just feels right to me at the moment tbh

Did I look like I dread posting in thread as mafia in Champs when I was constantly one of the top posters and snowed everyone but you called me correctly from spec?

actually .....yes? you certainly did seem awkward and uncomfortable to me which is why i was able to correctly read you in spec chat

Huh.

Hm.

Lemme think about this.

I certainly didn't feal awkward outside the first 3 hours of D1.

[MacDougall]

Who played in champs with Tilgarial this year that is in this game?

[MacDougall]

hm

the name in that list that immediately stands out to me as having the highest chance of being mafia is belzy. this is because it appears to me that this entire playerlist has collectively cleared belzy off of Good Vibes and Sounding Pure (to my understanding anyway), and i think that type of reasoning makes belzy particularly likely to be the deepwolf out of all the potential deepwolves in your list

agreed that rondo and neon and ender are town roughly in that order. i was POE'ing ender but am being influenced/agreeing with the recent consensus that his posts have been an improvement. read on aro is REDACTED until further notice

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

why are you not okay with sheeping the consensus on belzy but you're fine with sheeping the townreads santy and lily have given on neon?

im not sure that anyone in this game is repping a townread on belzy with the same level of confidence that lily/blade/etc are repping on neon but you can correct me if im wrong

@Lilypetal @santygrass how many times have you correctly read neon as mafia?

Only played vs her once and she was the one wolf I didn't catch before I was mled

Okay how many games have you played with her since?

[MacDougall]

I wished Belzy would go more in depth with their read on Wisp and Alison tho when I asked them because I wanted to better understand why they felt the way they did and didn’t get as much :/

If you’re still there @Belzy I’d appreciate if u can dive into more on ur Alison/Wisp sr and why u feel the way u do.

I know u said you’d wait for wisp to post more but I also want to see why their recent posting didn’t change the needle for u.

Curious what other people thought about Belzy here not expanding on the jntial sr they had on Alison/Wisp?

ThAts my main issue with the slot rn but hopefully they’ll respond at some point with more in-depth reasoning there

Ok what the fuck js this? I am watching you.

elaborate?

[staypositivefriend]

also blade to answer your question, im not sure that im going to be able to quantify my current townlean on you with reasons that extent beyond: "his energy is good and he does not seem awkward and like he dreads posting in the thread at every moment like he typically seems to as mafia". it just feels right to me at the moment tbh

Did I look like I dread posting in thread as mafia in Champs when I was constantly one of the top posters and snowed everyone but you called me correctly from spec?

actually .....yes? you certainly did seem awkward and uncomfortable to me which is why i was able to correctly read you in spec chat

Huh.

Hm.

Lemme think about this.

I certainly didn't feal awkward outside the first 3 hours of D1.

well to be more specific, the consistent thing that i said about you was more or less: "blade has no interest in solving or figuring out the game whatsoever", and i felt that your apathy and discomfort toward Thinking About The Game was reflected in almost every post that you were making. you seem more comfortable here, more fluid, more invested in being correct about the things that you are saying, etc etc

i won't insult your wolfgame by saying that you can't play like you are currently playing as a wolf, u just feel more like a villager than a wolf to me at this present moment

[Lilypetal]

how many games have you played with belzy?

this is my literal first game with belzy, which is probably playing a role in my reluctance to townread them as easily as everyone else tbh

why are you not okay with sheeping the consensus on belzy but you're fine with sheeping the townreads santy and lily have given on neon?

im not sure that anyone in this game is repping a townread on belzy with the same level of confidence that lily/blade/etc are repping on neon but you can correct me if im wrong

@Lilypetal @santygrass how many times have you correctly read neon as mafia?

Only played vs her once and she was the one wolf I didn't catch before I was mled

Okay how many games have you played with her since?

That's the last completed game I've played with neon. I felt like she was quite different though and once I was spoiled it was p obvious just how different she was playing as a wolf.

[Porscha]

But to answer ur question Lily-sama, it’s because I feel that with what u had at the time, it felt pre-mature for Porscha to
Go “Lily-lock town never rescind” and it feels a bit out of place considering the games that Porscha had been in with u where she doesn’t find you as “confident town” early in games

Not including spirit farer, which I am not confident when I tr'd lily and my first game with her, I am confident I have never taken longer than halfway through day 2 to find lily as town or wolf
I always find lily early

Why are you allowed to say you can find spf town with confidence due to the quantity of games you have played and siniliarty in playstyle, but I'm not allowed the same luxury with lily??

Literally 1984

That’s like comparing apples to oranges.

You and Lily don’t necessarily have a similar play style and I haven’t seen u confidently tr her in our previous games with the same confidence if that makes sense.

This is also cringe but I’ve also read a shit ton of spf games on MU including their champs games and their final when they did the fun fps claims and baited a most claim lol. Pikachu is one of my favorite mafia players and ever since I got snowed by her in anni, I’ve wanted to learn more about her play style as both alignments and wanted to adopt some of her toolset she uses in her games to better my own. So because of that, I’ve also been able to get a better understanding of how pikachu approaches her games based on my analysis of her games that I’ve read.

You know what aro
Just for you
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[RondoDimBuckle]

@Porscha what are ur thoughts on the game so far?

If you tr me, why aren’t you defending for me harder?
It seems u have a tr on me but don’t seem keen on convincing others to feel the same way. Maybe I’m over exaggerating, but it feels like with me being top wagon, that you don’t seem to Interested in trying to defend me.

I wouldnt call it a TR
And it's hardly a defense to say something you've done is something I consider NAI
I'm wary of you especially early so I'm not keen on being overly graceful
Also you only have 2 votes right now? I wouldnt call that top wagon status to worry about

I had 3 at the time I said that.

And that’s the thing is you were quick to tr me and felt better about it from what I saw, but I also know that you’re very wary around my slot a lot, so I was curious why you felt the way u did but then didn’t overly defend.

And you say it’s NAI, but you were tr me for certain reasons earlier and discussed it a bit lol.

But I will ask u, what’s ur pov/gamestate rn?

If I qualified you earlier, the most I would have given was a TL which I'm sure you're aware of specifically because I am wary of you

I'm on mobile so this is off the cuff thoughts and yes I will forget people, this time I am sorry:
Lily obvious town one day you guys will get it
Spf I have had a couple moments of agreement/clarity in their posts so despite my fear she can have TL for now. You and her are like paired in my mind
Belzy I masoned with in syn champs in january, it's been a long time, but iirc they are playing at least somewhat similar to that game, but I think that is only based on tone
Wisp literally gave me a headache from the amount of posts, of which maybe 50% contain what could be called content if you peer closely. Dont have meta, willing to take your comment about him usually have pride in wolf play take into consideration at this point and just say sure
I begrudgingly think sean might actually be town and I'm probably just kicking rocks over not having the same way to solve him every game
Nook I generally give TR to until he gives me a reason not to
I literally do not have the slightest idea on how ilario plays but I've seen a few points against him that dont make them look great but idk
I feel good about being able to find town mac and I think he is more likely town here
I'm literally donkey at reading santy so I need more time on him
Ender felt tonally good at first but I found his reasoning to sus me of "usually I vibe with porscha posts but not rn" to be pretty weak. Dont know if town ender just doesnt find himself mind melding as much as usual or if this is wolf ender attempting to set me up for ML at some point
Neon has moved from Administrative TL II to Administrative TL I in the meantime

I feel like I forgot someone who's been talking but my brain is fried and I'm going to sleep sorry to whoever I forgot about

me

[Lilypetal]

I have to sleep but mac p town from all this thank God

One last thing I wanna say is that in the ppl who have me lock town (neon, porscha, santy) if one of them is tmi'ing me town it's santy. He said I was town when I had 5 imo null af posts.

[arogame123]

Who played in champs with Tilgarial this year that is in this game?

Literally Ilario, wisp, and Santy lmfao

[Lilypetal]

But to answer ur question Lily-sama, it’s because I feel that with what u had at the time, it felt pre-mature for Porscha to
Go “Lily-lock town never rescind” and it feels a bit out of place considering the games that Porscha had been in with u where she doesn’t find you as “confident town” early in games

Not including spirit farer, which I am not confident when I tr'd lily and my first game with her, I am confident I have never taken longer than halfway through day 2 to find lily as town or wolf
I always find lily early

Why are you allowed to say you can find spf town with confidence due to the quantity of games you have played and siniliarty in playstyle, but I'm not allowed the same luxury with lily??

Literally 1984

That’s like comparing apples to oranges.

You and Lily don’t necessarily have a similar play style and I haven’t seen u confidently tr her in our previous games with the same confidence if that makes sense.

This is also cringe but I’ve also read a shit ton of spf games on MU including their champs games and their final when they did the fun fps claims and baited a most claim lol. Pikachu is one of my favorite mafia players and ever since I got snowed by her in anni, I’ve wanted to learn more about her play style as both alignments and wanted to adopt some of her toolset she uses in her games to better my own. So because of that, I’ve also been able to get a better understanding of how pikachu approaches her games based on my analysis of her games that I’ve read.

You know what aro
Just for you
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I just want to add onto this that like. Porscha is probs the best person in mafia at reading me. Accusing her of tmi for that read is crazy to me. You can think she's a wolf for anything else but not that

[MacDougall]

I'm fine with your read on neon @Lilypetal.

I think if you and Neon are town then SPF is probably town too because I can't really see a wolf sheeping townies to townread a townie. That's far to much grace to give to a town that's a plausible miselim.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I wished Belzy would go more in depth with their read on Wisp and Alison tho when I asked them because I wanted to better understand why they felt the way they did and didn’t get as much :/

If you’re still there @Belzy I’d appreciate if u can dive into more on ur Alison/Wisp sr and why u feel the way u do.

I know u said you’d wait for wisp to post more but I also want to see why their recent posting didn’t change the needle for u.

Curious what other people thought about Belzy here not expanding on the jntial sr they had on Alison/Wisp?

ThAts my main issue with the slot rn but hopefully they’ll respond at some point with more in-depth reasoning there

Ok what the fuck js this? I am watching you.

elaborate?

I cant right now but I will if something happens its better for town if I dont I think

[MacDougall]

I have to sleep but mac p town from all this thank God

One last thing I wanna say is that in the ppl who have me lock town (neon, porscha, santy) if one of them is tmi'ing me town it's santy. He said I was town when I had 5 imo null af posts.

@Neon how do you feel about Santy's read on you. Do you think that Santy has the experience with you to justify having you as a shieldable lock town?

[arogame123]

@arogame123 can you please try to make an argument for why SPF is in your top tier of townreads? Make it like you're a wolf shielding a teammate lol.

Lolol, I’ve made some posts already about it, but I’m going to bed in a few and I’ll make a larger post encapsulating all my thoughts on spf if you’d like in the morning.

I just have a bunch of thoughts that I’ve posted on pikachu that are scattered in my large iso lol

[MacDougall]

Who played in champs with Tilgarial this year that is in this game?

Literally Ilario, wisp, and Santy lmfao

Fairly large volume of players.

[MacDougall]

when did we start calling spf pikachu?

[Lilypetal]

I'm fine with your read on neon @Lilypetal.

I think if you and Neon are town then SPF is probably town too because I can't really see a wolf sheeping townies to townread a townie. That's far to much grace to give to a town that's a plausible miselim.

Yeah I think spf is def town here. She would definitely be setting us up for a later mislim. Spf here is playing way too pro town with how she's going about her reads imo it just feels honest