Golden wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:10 pmDo you need me to find you a brick wall?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:06 pmGolden wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:16 pmYou say ‘if allowed to’ but also you are voting there now. I’m conscious we might be on the very edge of infodumping here but… question… are you suggesting that your vote will not end on today?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:11 pmI would if allowed to. Quins been a W vibe for awhile now.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:17 amI’m glad you pointed this out RE Wilgy:Golden wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 amOK, so I've thought a bit more about your last paragraph here, actually tried analysing my perspective and also being open minded on wilgy.Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:46 pm
I‘m rather saying that if you expected mafia to act in a certain way while discussing Wilgy and then quickly finished the thought with a conclusion that they‘re town, it means you juggled with a wilgy scum scenario openly but pointlessly which brings up questions about the intention of your post.
From your perspective, I‘d be a bit more wary also for voting reasons. If you suspect Quin, assuming both svs and wilgy town while they vote Michelle spawns the question about who you think is trying to mount a rescue of Quin.
So, first:
The blatant no u by Quin on me, plus the matahari vote in proximate time frames (from my perspective), feel quite compatible with an attempted start of a save. I do admit that this is a self-centred approach... I've been a mislynch target of baddies often in my career, and Quin also was trying to pretzel me last night - whether genuine or not.
The idea of 'Michelle as save' hadn't yet crossed my mind when you brought it up. It would have eventually, but in the context of me trying to participate on a Sunday morning, I wasn't in deep analysis mode.
SVS didn't appeal to me as a Quin teammate. She was skeeved enough by him echoing me in the thread during the bea lynch that she called him my attorney. My sense of SVS is that she's been fairly consistently suspicious of Quin.
So I went and did a (skim) iso of SVS looking for her mentions of Quin, and I still don't really have reason to feel bad about SVS. Early on she said Quin was a null read, she needed to get on top of that. Then she starting focusing on me, Sloonei & Quin (a focus I think she's never really lost, on any of the three of us). She called us the 'triumverate of content', something which blatantly snubbed scotty. But she explained she was talking about the three she was at best null on. If she's Quin's teammate, she's been distancing for a while. Undoing that with an instant save after a single vote on Quin feels incorrect to me.
Wilgy, rather than isoing him, I focused on his voting patterns. After all, he did do the 'perfect' timing on the G-Man vote. If Wilgy is bad, he's a baddie who is quite comfortable bussing his teammate at the perfect time for cred.
On day one he was one of two votes on me. There were also two votes on Quin, along with the four on each of eloh and sloonei, at the end of the day. I do feel like some analysis of vote order could be valuable.
Wilgy was one of four voters for Quin on a day where LoRab was lynched with 6, and G-Man did play quite a decisive role there in ensuring LoRab went. I had completely forgotten Quin had taken four votes that day, in my head it was DH vs LoRab. If Quin flips wolf, this vote is as well placed for Wilgy as his vote on G-Man is the next day, in terms of town cred.
Then there's the G-Man vote.
Then he's back on Quin on day four.
And now he's not on Quin again.
So actually, in the vote analysis... I'd say a wilgy/quin w/w stacks up as a fair possibility and I really didn't expect to see that going in. It's enough for Wilgy to get put back in the mix.
If I'm wrong about Wilgy and he's a wolf with Quin there's a specific reason why that's going to be very ironic and I'll be kind of annoyed/frustrated with myself again.
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However, I'd also note another possibility.
As of now, 5/11 of players in the game are voting.
That means six are not. I do not think it unlikely that there are wolves in that group, and I continue to feel bothered by the fact that I can't get three of them out of the PoE, even when I feel good about them.
Those three are DF, Michelle and sig.
I would not be at all surprised if both of quin's teammates are in that group, and if so far the only save on me has been from Quin itself.
I think it's worth noting that every one out of G-Man, Quin, DF and sig have voted for me in this game in ways that I would categorise as a 'no u'. That sticks out to me because they've all played with civ me before and they know I'm messy and mislynchable but that I am also perceptive. I didn't think G-Man's no u stood up and to be honest I don't think any of their no u's really stand up (if any one of them does stand up, it's sig's because taking sus while cursed does suck).
“Then he's back on Quin on day four.
And now he's not on Quin again.”
Because today we have this:I think Wilgy should put his money where his tongue is
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I like the part where you excluded Golden and Myself voting for Quin in D1’s final tallyMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:48 pmEod 1
Bea 1 Lorab
Eloh 4 Sloo Quin NAA/Vivax2. 0 Mich
Gman 1 DH/Svs
Golden 2 Gman Wilgy
Scotty 1 Kate
Sig 1 Sig
Sloo 4 Eloh Fingers Vivax1.0 Llama
Eod 2
DH/Svs 4 Lorab Kate DH Golden
Lorab 6 Sloo DF Elo, Scotty Quin Gman
NAA/Vivax 2.0 - Bea
Quin 4 Llama Jay Vivax2.0 Wilgy
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My new POE:
Michelle/Wilgy/Quin
With a sprinkle of DF
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With a sprinkle of DF
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The fact that Wilgy moved his vote for Michelle off right after the NP voter mover theirs TO Michelle is freaking me out a bit.
Linki @Scotty yeah I could see that
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Day 3
DH 1 Eloh
G-Man 6 Wilgy Mich Golden Sloonei Kate Ricochet
Golden 1 Sig
Kate 1 Quin
Mich 1 Faraday
Quin 1 G-Man
Sloonei 4 Scotty Bea Svs Vivax2
This is from D3
Just 2 ideas, on Gman one vote is not from the playerslist so I will consider it a 5 players wagon in my analisis.
I keep thinking the wagon on Sloonei has scum in it and I am looking with suspicion at the vanity wagons as well.
Means we can have mafia in these 2 wagons and the wagon on Lorab can have more than one wolf Gman.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:21 pmThe 2 wagons that day centered around Quin and DH.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:40 pm Day 2 has another self vote, DH voted himself.
This was the Eod where I couldn't vote, I understood that was probably the reason for the curse to post in that odd way in D3. Sig had the same fate.
How these wagons formed?
Was the wagon on Lorab made to save someone?
I hoped i can find the answer at this
If that means anything
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I have to go take a cake out of the oven and make dinner, I will be back in a bit, but in the meantime I'm moving my vote back to Michelle.
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@Sloonei
Can you do me a big solid and do some analysis of Quin for me? I just searched your posts for “Quin” and am perplexed at what I see.
On day 2, you say you’ll have to revisit him later
On day 3, you say if you survive the phase, you’ll have to revisit him
The end.
Now here we are when Quin is leading in the poll and you make a rather shruggy vote for Michelle. What gives? Where does Quin currently fall on your spectrum?
Can you do me a big solid and do some analysis of Quin for me? I just searched your posts for “Quin” and am perplexed at what I see.
On day 2, you say you’ll have to revisit him later
On day 3, you say if you survive the phase, you’ll have to revisit him
The end.
Now here we are when Quin is leading in the poll and you make a rather shruggy vote for Michelle. What gives? Where does Quin currently fall on your spectrum?
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I think two of the three wagons could be Mafia, pretty much all of us have been circling these three people.
But which two?
But which two?
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I didn't exclude Quin's wagon, i didn't see it on phone when i scrolled down.
What's the problem with it?
Also you are wrong
That's most probably just a coincidence
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I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons are all town because of the way you try to shade me
Bea was suspected by everyone and their mom, trying to legitimate the push by the thread's consensus suspicions is nagl
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The third one being…Golden?
Wilgy, despite what he’s said, seemed more attached to Michelle going over.
If Michelle is bad, Wilgy looks great.
If Michelle is good, SVS and Wilgy looks bad
If Quin is bad, Wilgy looks terrible. Sloonei also looks terrible. Golden looks good.
If Quin is good, Golden looks bad.
If Golden is bad, Quin looks good, SVS gets brownie points.
If Golden is good, Quin looks terrible.
If Wilgy is bad, SVS looks bad.
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Like, to me, offing Quin answers a lot of questions. We have hovered around him since his D2.
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Voting for Quin as I re catch up I did see an initial Scotty case on him which I liked plus the llama thoughts will follow up with more thoughts
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@S~V~S did you switch back to Michelle because you want the wagons to be close to even or you still suspect her more than Quin?
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[quote=S~V~S post_id=975503 time=1667770713 user_id=54]
I think two of the three wagons could be Mafia, pretty much all of us have been circling these three people.
But which two?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons are all town because of the way you try to shade me
Bea was suspected by everyone and their mom, trying to legitimate the push by the thread's consensus suspicions is nagl
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Also you said i didn't mention Quin. I don't remember to notice his presence in the game in the same time with me so yes, i didn't talk with/about him.
Your point?
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I think two of the three wagons could be Mafia, pretty much all of us have been circling these three people.
But which two?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the wagons are all town because of the way you try to shade me
Bea was suspected by everyone and their mom, trying to legitimate the push by the thread's consensus suspicions is nagl
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Also you said i didn't mention Quin. I don't remember to notice his presence in the game in the same time with me so yes, i didn't talk with/about him.
Your point?
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Vote count as of 3 hours til end of day 5:
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Agree with this my issue is golden could be convinced he’s one role and he isn’t that role could still be alive and then boom no reason to civ clear sloonie. I know maybe this isn’t how it worked in old school (Though I distinctly remember back in the day people would speculate on roles) but refusing to do so is kind of anti townScotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:45 pm“You trust me and listen to me, or you don’t. But it’s not about ‘not helping wolves’. It’s about playing role madness old school, and solving the game with a spreadsheet.”Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:31 pmI’m not asking to infodump. Infodumping implies you have info. Guess dumping isn’t a phrase, but if it were, it would be allowed.Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:25 pmHey ScottyScotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:05 pm Golden and Sloonei
This is a pairing of players that I think go hand in hand. Not because I think they’re on the same team but because I don’t think they’re w/w.
Golden is someone that has expressed keen interest in pinning down Sloonei’s role. Golden has like 6 people’s roles “in mind” which is just dandy for him. I also have roles in mind for people, but the weird part to me is that when pressed on it, Golden zips up his mouth and becomes slightly indignant talking about it, suggesting mafia will get whiffs of his grand role matching and use it against the town. He compounds this attitude with unabashedly- and unprompted- also inserting throughout the game “I have a role in mind for {x} player” which is like that acquaintance on Facebook that casually makes their status “I can’t believe this happened to me today!” allowing concerned comments to pile up for a few days, and never resolving it. What happened to you, Chelsea?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO MY PSYCHE.
I’m glad that Golden has roles in mind for people, and that may very well help his own game. But at some point as we start whittling down players, communitizing role guesses becomes less about “not giving mafia the benefit of information” and more about “helping the town as a whole identify and make better choices so we don’t lose the game.”
There’s a certain gate keeping of “the old ways” that I willingly want to respect, but I’m also not one to throw away the key to unlocking the game because “that’s not the way we do things here”. In this game, confidence in reads and how you flaunt that confidence dictates a lot of reads for other people.
All of this leads to my hesitance and blatant confusion when it comes to my read of Sloonei. It’s Golden and Golden specifically that has kept me from hard townreading Sloonei, and it’s because of his vague confidence that Sloonei isn’t the one that switched the first elimination to Vivax1.0. I can’t pry out what Golden really thinks Sloonei is, and we can’t info dump in this game (That’s fine, wouldn’t ask it if anyone had info) but it could be heavily inferred that Sloonei and Quin were masons. It made sense with the blatant shielding going on early. But Sloonei- after a couple days of hard town reading Quin- walked back his Townread to a more questionable read of him on day 3. This seemed to fracture Golden’s crystal ball for a second, but it seemed in-thread that it was a brief stay of confusion before he just shrugged it off and maybe conf biased himself that it was just a blip and everything is still fine and dandy. This confused the shit out of me. Because that didn’t seem like an attitude of a player with a Mason in Quin. So if he isn’t a Mason, and isn’t the elim switcher…I got nothing to explain Sloonei’s behavior this game.
On Night 2, Sloonei showed some flashes of old civ Sloonei, with deep dives into ISOs and interactions with DrWilgy and then a pretty thorough casing on GMan, which was welcomed! But before that? Wet towel. Even now, after bea’s untimely demise, his comment of “I wish this person rezzed can just take my place”. I don’t get it. It’s like he has not spark or drive this game. It’s really bugging me out.
But here’s what I think:
I think Sloonei is town. And that is because I think Golden is intentionally or unintentionally misleading or at least has convinced himself that the puzzle piece that he holds still fits, even though he’s trying to trade 3 sheep for 2 wood in a game of Monopoly.
I already told you. It’s called infodumping man and it’s not on.
You trust me and listen to me, or you don’t. But it’s not about ‘not helping wolves’. It’s about playing role madness old school, and solving the game with a spreadsheet.
Not sharing vomps tildes was about not telling wolves but… that’s because vomps was a vanilla civ and I wanted them to be worried about the power.
I’m guessing Sloonei is one thing. You are guessing he is another. Both can be expressed.
You’re a brick wall. And the bricker you are, the less I wall want to trust you.
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The biggest pause for me with Quin is I have stronger town reads on the Michelle wagon
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I was doing the same thing Scotty, now i can go to sleep.
If anyone wants to ask me something I am still here for a while
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Who would you be voting if there were no votes on the poll?
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I think Michelle and Quin could be teammates, they never ever quoted or mentioned each other.
Wilgy moving his vote when he did freaked me a bit and made me question that. Like maybe Wilgy bad (I’ve been town reading him based on one post). I am ready willing and able to move votes back if a different consensus is reached.
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My vote is there not because it was a wagon.
My Poe is in Quin/Svs/DF/Golden/Vivax (not ordered) but if the wagon on Lorab was made to save Quin/Svs then one of them is bad for sure
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Based on one post eh? Which post is that?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 pmI think Michelle and Quin could be teammates, they never ever quoted or mentioned each other.
Wilgy moving his vote when he did freaked me a bit and made me question that. Like maybe Wilgy bad (I’ve been town reading him based on one post). I am ready willing and able to move votes back if a different consensus is reached.
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I’m feeling the Michelle/Willy/Quin team if I had to sub out one I’d say probably Michelle
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Who’s the sub?
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I wanna say I did a joke vote for sloonie, a serious vote for someone else, backed off rhat vote and moved to myself as a placeholder then forgot to come back and change itMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:21 pm Looking at the wagons, day 1 had a tie but the lynch was switched to Vivax1.0, 3rd party. I don't think speculations about how that happened are useful.
I remember Sloonei had as single scum read in Vivax who flipped 3rd. If I have to tinfoil him this is a strong reason because mafia is always pushing the 3rds because this gives the impression they are scum hunting but I don't want to do that because Sloonei was very important in catching Gman.
Gman was off wagons, that would show t/t wagons most probably. Also he is voting for Golden who is looking villagery, but it may be a bus.
The vanity wagon on Gman from DH is another alarm bell.
I think I didn't notice the self vote from Sig, what was the reason of it@sig ?
The VC is longer than the phone screen, I forgot a wagon
Quin 2 Scotty Golden
If Quin flips mafia this is a good look probably for Scotty and Golden imo.
This is day 1, going further in day 2
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Torn between my tin foil theory of either Sloonie or Golden and the more realistic one of DF or maybe Vix
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Where he came in and didn’t know that if replaced DH. He’s a hard read for me and his votes didn’t get my eye. Until nowScotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:01 pmBased on one post eh? Which post is that?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 pmI think Michelle and Quin could be teammates, they never ever quoted or mentioned each other.
Wilgy moving his vote when he did freaked me a bit and made me question that. Like maybe Wilgy bad (I’ve been town reading him based on one post). I am ready willing and able to move votes back if a different consensus is reached.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]
I still think my insanified no voting theory for DF is solid though and I had an early civ read on Vivax later on I just can’t recall much more
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*I’d not if
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]
Makes sense, then is not as bad as it looked in the Eod VCsig wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:03 pmI wanna say I did a joke vote for sloonie, a serious vote for someone else, backed off rhat vote and moved to myself as a placeholder then forgot to come back and change itMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:21 pm Looking at the wagons, day 1 had a tie but the lynch was switched to Vivax1.0, 3rd party. I don't think speculations about how that happened are useful.
I remember Sloonei had as single scum read in Vivax who flipped 3rd. If I have to tinfoil him this is a strong reason because mafia is always pushing the 3rds because this gives the impression they are scum hunting but I don't want to do that because Sloonei was very important in catching Gman.
Gman was off wagons, that would show t/t wagons most probably. Also he is voting for Golden who is looking villagery, but it may be a bus.
The vanity wagon on Gman from DH is another alarm bell.
I think I didn't notice the self vote from Sig, what was the reason of it@sig ?
The VC is longer than the phone screen, I forgot a wagon
Quin 2 Scotty Golden
If Quin flips mafia this is a good look probably for Scotty and Golden imo.
This is day 1, going further in day 2
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]
Could it also be that he didn’t catch up appropriately and/or it wasn’t mentioned in mafia chat? I feel like that especially is NAIS~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:04 pmWhere he came in and didn’t know that if replaced DH. He’s a hard read for me and his votes didn’t get my eye. Until nowScotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:01 pmBased on one post eh? Which post is that?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 pmI think Michelle and Quin could be teammates, they never ever quoted or mentioned each other.
Wilgy moving his vote when he did freaked me a bit and made me question that. Like maybe Wilgy bad (I’ve been town reading him based on one post). I am ready willing and able to move votes back if a different consensus is reached.
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Break it down for me then, was it that I had a supposed specific reason for voting quin when I did? I think I'm missing the point.Golden wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:07 pmThat’s not the discussion. You’ve voted there twice!DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:19 pm If everyone voting quin bails to vote Michelle or Vivax and Quin Is no longer a good option, most likely.
If Quin is actually up to be yeeted, then let's yeet.
If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]
Oh you’re here.
Quick! Would you rather:
-eat a 6-inch cactus in its entirety but not have to poop it
Or
-poop a 3-inch cactus in its entirety but not have to have eaten it
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What baddie doesn’t stop in chat if they’ve been out of thread most of the day? And DH was the main lynch target for day 3, it would be mentioned in the chat if he’s been replaced.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:06 pmCould it also be that he didn’t catch up appropriately and/or it wasn’t mentioned in mafia chat? I feel like that especially is NAIS~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:04 pmWhere he came in and didn’t know that if replaced DH. He’s a hard read for me and his votes didn’t get my eye. Until nowScotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:01 pmBased on one post eh? Which post is that?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 pmI think Michelle and Quin could be teammates, they never ever quoted or mentioned each other.
Wilgy moving his vote when he did freaked me a bit and made me question that. Like maybe Wilgy bad (I’ve been town reading him based on one post). I am ready willing and able to move votes back if a different consensus is reached.
I thought it was AI, but I hate the timing of that vote move.
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I don't see a 2-1-2 split as wagons. That's just early vote posturing where vanity is to not be considered. Voted for Michelle to see what would happen. Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:17 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:19 pm If everyone voting quin bails to vote Michelle or Vivax and Quin Is no longer a good option, most likely.
If Quin is actually up to be yeeted, then let's yeet.
If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.This is the worst reasoning you’ve given to anything all game, Wilgy. Here:Spoiler: show
The benefit of posting these little vote counts is such that I can really see transitions. As you can see, Quin was the leading wagon before you came in. At some point, you voted for Michelle, though you never posted as such in thread, so I can’t exactly see when you did so. At some point after this poll, I switched to SVS. Which would still mean Quin and Michelle had 1 vote each.
Your claim here that your vote would be vanity is patently false.
Did the same shit to G-Man I think, voted G. Saw that the wagon was skewed, moved to Sloonei, realized that G was potentially being saved by it, moved back because I didn't want that.
That's also why I'm keen to Vivax going over as well. The argument for moving off G was presented by them as wagonomics, however I think that may have been a save attempt as opposed to actually reviewing vote posturing and knowing you'd be around to move back later if needed.
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Can I not voice that both Michelle and Quin could be bad?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:47 pmThe third one being…Golden?
Wilgy, despite what he’s said, seemed more attached to Michelle going over.
If Michelle is bad, Wilgy looks great.
If Michelle is good, SVS and Wilgy looks bad
If Quin is bad, Wilgy looks terrible. Sloonei also looks terrible. Golden looks good.
If Quin is good, Golden looks bad.
If Golden is bad, Quin looks good, SVS gets brownie points.
If Golden is good, Quin looks terrible.
If Wilgy is bad, SVS looks bad.
If Wilgy is good, no one gets brownie points.
It's just PoE. I seen no reason to shift it horribly, not do I see reason to prefer one over the other.
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Wilgy, you’re literally contradicting yourselfDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:15 pmI don't see a 2-1-2 split as wagons. That's just early vote posturing where vanity is to not be considered. Voted for Michelle to see what would happen. Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:17 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:19 pm If everyone voting quin bails to vote Michelle or Vivax and Quin Is no longer a good option, most likely.
If Quin is actually up to be yeeted, then let's yeet.
If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.This is the worst reasoning you’ve given to anything all game, Wilgy. Here:Spoiler: show
The benefit of posting these little vote counts is such that I can really see transitions. As you can see, Quin was the leading wagon before you came in. At some point, you voted for Michelle, though you never posted as such in thread, so I can’t exactly see when you did so. At some point after this poll, I switched to SVS. Which would still mean Quin and Michelle had 1 vote each.
Your claim here that your vote would be vanity is patently false.
Did the same shit to G-Man I think, voted G. Saw that the wagon was skewed, moved to Sloonei, realized that G was potentially being saved by it, moved back because I didn't want that.
That's also why I'm keen to Vivax going over as well. The argument for moving off G was presented by them as wagonomics, however I think that may have been a save attempt as opposed to actually reviewing vote posturing and knowing you'd be around to move back later if needed.
“If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.”
”Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.”
So you voting for Quin would have made him top wagon. You wouldn’t be making a vanity vote, which you just said is voting off wagon, because you wouldn’t be voting off wagon. You would have made the wagon.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]
They could be! You are correct. I’m putting the cart before the horse and mostly listed those possibilities as to what would help solve the game for me.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:20 pmCan I not voice that both Michelle and Quin could be bad?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:47 pmThe third one being…Golden?
Wilgy, despite what he’s said, seemed more attached to Michelle going over.
If Michelle is bad, Wilgy looks great.
If Michelle is good, SVS and Wilgy looks bad
If Quin is bad, Wilgy looks terrible. Sloonei also looks terrible. Golden looks good.
If Quin is good, Golden looks bad.
If Golden is bad, Quin looks good, SVS gets brownie points.
If Golden is good, Quin looks terrible.
If Wilgy is bad, SVS looks bad.
If Wilgy is good, no one gets brownie points.
It's just PoE. I seen no reason to shift it horribly, not do I see reason to prefer one over the other.
If both are bad, you also look good, if not only because you came in with them as your main votes.
However, you’re still keeping Vivax in the mix, which is slightly hedging and keeping your options open.
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Note: Quin dropped in to make a joke post and has made no attempt to save himself with words or voting for Michelle.
Quin, help convince me you aren’t scum.
Quin, help convince me you aren’t scum.
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Yes, but I saw no need to make the wagon. There was a split between my PoE that just needs to be clipped? No wagon BETWEEN then two that I advise for yeet had a majority.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:20 pmWilgy, you’re literally contradicting yourselfDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:15 pmI don't see a 2-1-2 split as wagons. That's just early vote posturing where vanity is to not be considered. Voted for Michelle to see what would happen. Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:17 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:19 pm If everyone voting quin bails to vote Michelle or Vivax and Quin Is no longer a good option, most likely.
If Quin is actually up to be yeeted, then let's yeet.
If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.This is the worst reasoning you’ve given to anything all game, Wilgy. Here:Spoiler: show
The benefit of posting these little vote counts is such that I can really see transitions. As you can see, Quin was the leading wagon before you came in. At some point, you voted for Michelle, though you never posted as such in thread, so I can’t exactly see when you did so. At some point after this poll, I switched to SVS. Which would still mean Quin and Michelle had 1 vote each.
Your claim here that your vote would be vanity is patently false.
Did the same shit to G-Man I think, voted G. Saw that the wagon was skewed, moved to Sloonei, realized that G was potentially being saved by it, moved back because I didn't want that.
That's also why I'm keen to Vivax going over as well. The argument for moving off G was presented by them as wagonomics, however I think that may have been a save attempt as opposed to actually reviewing vote posturing and knowing you'd be around to move back later if needed.
“If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.”
”Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.”
So you voting for Quin would have made him top wagon. You wouldn’t be making a vanity vote, which you just said is voting off wagon, because you wouldn’t be voting off wagon. You would have made the wagon.
I don't care which of the two goes over. My comments about quin being vanity were mostly out of regard for previous cycles and I don't know if I expressed that proper. (Communication skills currently faltering as I didn't sleep last night. Had a thing resulting in me driving my wife back home from Dallas between 2-5 am last night. Forgive any comprehension blunders I may experience today)
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Who else was at 2 when I voted? Golden?
Yes I would've instant auto saved Golden by yeeting Quin had I needed to snipe a 2-1-2 split at EoD. It just wasn't EoD.
Yes I would've instant auto saved Golden by yeeting Quin had I needed to snipe a 2-1-2 split at EoD. It just wasn't EoD.
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Oh, I need to understand why Sig has me in PoE. Doesn't make sense to me.
Not clicking on ISOs today though, I only have capacity for in the moment type shit.
Not clicking on ISOs today though, I only have capacity for in the moment type shit.
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Re: Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 5]
So this:DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:25 pmYes, but I saw no need to make the wagon. There was a split between my PoE that just needs to be clipped? No wagon BETWEEN then two that I advise for yeet had a majority.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:20 pmWilgy, you’re literally contradicting yourselfDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:15 pmI don't see a 2-1-2 split as wagons. That's just early vote posturing where vanity is to not be considered. Voted for Michelle to see what would happen. Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:17 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:19 pm If everyone voting quin bails to vote Michelle or Vivax and Quin Is no longer a good option, most likely.
If Quin is actually up to be yeeted, then let's yeet.
If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.This is the worst reasoning you’ve given to anything all game, Wilgy. Here:Spoiler: show
The benefit of posting these little vote counts is such that I can really see transitions. As you can see, Quin was the leading wagon before you came in. At some point, you voted for Michelle, though you never posted as such in thread, so I can’t exactly see when you did so. At some point after this poll, I switched to SVS. Which would still mean Quin and Michelle had 1 vote each.
Your claim here that your vote would be vanity is patently false.
Did the same shit to G-Man I think, voted G. Saw that the wagon was skewed, moved to Sloonei, realized that G was potentially being saved by it, moved back because I didn't want that.
That's also why I'm keen to Vivax going over as well. The argument for moving off G was presented by them as wagonomics, however I think that may have been a save attempt as opposed to actually reviewing vote posturing and knowing you'd be around to move back later if needed.
“If the argument is "Wilgy keeps mentioning quin, but doesn't vote there" then give me something that wouldn't result in my vote being vanity.”
”Vanity would be if I were to go to off wagon now where it's actually possible for the posture to shift.”
So you voting for Quin would have made him top wagon. You wouldn’t be making a vanity vote, which you just said is voting off wagon, because you wouldn’t be voting off wagon. You would have made the wagon.
I don't care which of the two goes over. My comments about quin being vanity were mostly out of regard for previous cycles and I don't know if I expressed that proper. (Communication skills currently faltering as I didn't sleep last night. Had a thing resulting in me driving my wife back home from Dallas between 2-5 am last night. Forgive any comprehension blunders I may experience today)
Is not caring about which goes over? Because you seem to use the word “better” as if that would be your preference.
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