Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[santygrass]

I think that if Alison is town almost always one in Ender/nook should be mafia tbh.

So like, if you want to be more fair and without bias from my own read.
Nanook/ender/alison doesnt feel like a pure group so solving in there might be good

[Millium]

I find it hard to believe wolf!Alison takes this approach and instantly roleclaims, well psuedo roleclaims I guess, if u want to argue them not claiming the name should change my thoughts
im curious how you even balance a game with roles and alignments being randed separately, and I am also curious how that works with the 3p we know exists, or possible 3p's (if that ends up being the case)

thats kinda a decent point ig?

Would be good if someone whose familiar with Jack and dizzy setups to know if they would make a role like alison to be left upto rand on which alignment it goes to

if all roles are random, i would think that holds true for everyone
though i still dont know what that means for the 3p

[ilario]

ehh i did a super quick skim of king of the hill and i dont feel like an alison vote is the play. if both nook and mac sus her i wont fight against votes there but yeah i think gth shes still leaning town for me

[Millium]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Polarized means they are easy to find as scum basically

I think.

Porscha! Is this the game where I town read you and you are a wolf finally or the game where I town read you and you die D1 anyways and are town?

can u go over what u found towny with porcha on d1 and why ur read there has changed today?

i will admit if porcha is wolf this post doesnt feel w/w at first glance

Yeah I can expand but I have to go back to work right meow my break is in 20 mins I'll write up a full explanation than

@ilario

So I TRd Porscha early because Porscha in my experience is commonly wolfy day 1 and plays a lot like me in that early they post a lot of fluffy stuff and just kind of vibe in thread and talk about non game things.

This is my experience and why me and Porscha have had various conversations late at night in thread when nobody else is posting about stupid things like League. Porscha has become my friend thru us just vibing alone late night in thread in caps mafia games.

I've also seen Porscha die for being "scummy" early even when I've tried to defend them like in FoL or when I've tried to pocket them and exclaim their town. So they often die and flip town even when I express a different opinion.

However upon further review...Porscha is kind of doing what I expect right. Fluffy trying to vibe with me but it's...shallower than normal. Like the Overwatch thing with Lily and Me where Porscha was like "is like I don't exist over here" or something like that. That's what I'd expect and we vibed off it a little like I'd expect I've been struggling to express what felt off about Porscha and I think it's like I've given so much stuff I'd expect Porscha to vibe off of and they've only kinda done it.

Than they are being very defensive in their limited time in thread and I've seen that from town Porscha presumably from being tired of being miskilled so often day 1. But here even that defensiveness and the aggro off it just felt forced and than they disappeared again.

So combine that and the lack of presence and the lack of vibe and...I think I'm starting to see a wolf Porscha world.

I've been told Porscha is Polarized I've never played with wolf Porscha but I see someone trying to mimic their town game and getting halfway there... if that makes any sense.

Good enough that on first glance I was like this is town but on further scrutiny it didn't hold up.

kudos to u if ur a wolf

??

im saying this to indicate that i think ur posting really well. i already think ur recent wolf performances probably leave u as a very solid wolf but if ur a wolf this game then ill openly admit ur probs one of the strongest wolves ive come across. ill probs just occams razor u as town though,

Oh yeah thanks. I'm really not that good I'm just exuding town energy cause I'm town.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Tilgarial if you had to pick 2 of the more active posters that have the highest chance of flipping wolf who would they be?

Active posters so far are... aro, SPF, mac, illario, belzy, wisp, Alison, Ender/neon maybe?
Alison/aro/SPF/illario I'm townreading to one degree or another
Mac I'd probably lean town too if I was forced to decide

Ender/belzy I haven't really paid much attention to so far
Wisp(Milly) I'm somewhat neutral on
Neon I haven't really reached a conclusion yet

Not sure I can narrow it down more than that without picking arbitrarily at this point, tbh
Maybe reserve one spot for wisp, though I can see him getting a townread if he actually talks to me about his viewpoint, so meh

ehhh this is a wolfy response in hindsight

very safe answer, doesnt take many stances, aros placement here combined with tilgs betrayal of aro at eod also sus. @MacDougall do u think the way he talks about wisp here feels w/w?

Holy crap that post is unbelievably hedge lol.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I still TR Belzy but I'd like them to answer the questions I posed when I did my ISO on them.

[santygrass]

Spoiler: show

My role gives me a bonus if I have no vote at EOD. Therefore I will not be voting in the poll. I will not be claiming exact details or flavor in order to avoid a soupkill. I will still use the vote tags to indicate my strongest suspicion.

Anyway Rondo is mafia.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Milium town Seanzie town.

Why am I town?

You are out of your scum range.

Milium town Seanzie town.

I think ur probably town but can you explain these two reads ?

See above for Seanzie.

Milium is town because they are a completely fresh face in the middle of an extremely insular playerlist that all know each other and have lots of experience with each other and still come off as the most relaxed and comfortable person in the thread.

I rescind my townread on Seanzie because he didn't get offended enough when I said he was out of his scum range.

Rondo is being reasonable and townie and solvey which means he is lock mafia.

Just to be clear I have a bonus if I don't vote but I can still vote if I want so if voting is more important than getting the bonus (eg. tie between me and my scumread and I need to self pres) I will.

Wisp is town clearing me for claiming my role in post 1?

Okay well that's weird and suspicious because I don't think Wisp's knowledge of me should lead him to do that.

@Millium Haven't you seen me do bold fakeclaims before?

Alison SoD I think was the towniest by far in regards to how they were giving reads and that sort of stuff. Even if alison is a wolf their SoD was the more pro-villa one with how they were just putting their reads out there imo
Also I think likely unpaired with Wisp

[Lilypetal]

Neon is town. I can say this with a lot of certainty after catching up. I will remember this neon for all future games

[santygrass]

Currently at the Neon post.

Aro
Wisp
Seanzie
Neon
Rondo

My scumreads

Mac shielding Aro and Rondo

I trust Mac so take the other three as my immediate POE

There are good odds that this is all town fwiw.
Is alison a power-wolfy type of player?
Like, I only see from there rondo or Seanzie being Wolves. And if Porscha is a wolf f.e, then I think Rondo is less likely. Same stuff in W!dya V!seanzie scenarios .

Or maybe Rondo is mafia there and they are using Mac shield too tbh

[santygrass]

Btw the power-wolfy type of player I need answered by people who know Alison because if not I think usually a list with various names as PoE without any wolf I usually indicate it more towards lack of TMI tbh

[MacDougall]

Yeah and more importantly my friend Santy is that Alison is a good town and usually has good reads sooooo

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Who is Camomile?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Neon is town. I can say this with a lot of certainty after catching up. I will remember this neon for all future games

Please don't. I don't want to have to try this hard in all my games.

[santygrass]

SPF progression on Illario was decent

Tilgarial feels like they're working alone.

Townleans for both.

@Alison is this your first time playing with Tilg btw? Have you read champs sf2 or finale?

[santygrass]

Who is Camomile?

Seven

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine

@Neon please @ me with ur reads list when you have it done - I think your play has been sorta like how I imagine you as a villager but I want to be sure

@santygrass updated reads list please and work with me to solve tomorrow, okay?

@Porscha legacy please

@Lilypetal

TOWN : ilario, Lily , Mac , Neon
Pretty towny : Alison, Cham , Millium
Townlean: Ender
Null: Belzy
Need flips to reassess: Rondo
Scummy :Nanook
Prob a difference check: Dya, Seanzie
Scum: Tilgarial, Porscha


I think those are all.

Also I want to boost @MacDougall I could also get relevant mech in one of seanzie/dya in the future but idk how much I want to oppose in solving there because its not a guarantee that could be something definitive for their alignment

[VOTE: Santy ] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

I think that if Alison is town almost always one in Ender/nook should be mafia tbh.

So like, if you want to be more fair and without bias from my own read.
Nanook/ender/alison doesnt feel like a pure group so solving in there might be good

Why?

[santygrass]

Millium, Porscha, Santy, Lily, Aro.

Of those with votes, these are the wagons I can tolerate.

Aro and Millium are both a step above in preference (ie. I want them dead more).

Here are minimum 4 Town too btw.

I think Porscha likely a wolf there but Idrc them pushing Porscha or going there ? We'll see later in the ISO i guess.

But anyways Alison is super off irt to reads and its worrying

[RondoDimBuckle]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

You obviously have no clue who I am and what my playstyle is like. How about. If no one else in the thread is sussing me for something, dont try to sus me for something?

[santygrass]

[VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine

@Neon please @ me with ur reads list when you have it done - I think your play has been sorta like how I imagine you as a villager but I want to be sure

@santygrass updated reads list please and work with me to solve tomorrow, okay?

@Porscha legacy please

@Lilypetal

TOWN : ilario, Lily , Mac , Neon
Pretty towny : Alison, Cham , Millium
Townlean: Ender
Null: Belzy
Need flips to reassess: Rondo
Scummy :Nanook
Prob a difference check: Dya, Seanzie
Scum: Tilgarial, Porscha


I think those are all.

Also I want to boost @MacDougall I could also get relevant mech in one of seanzie/dya in the future but idk how much I want to oppose in solving there because its not a guarantee that could be something definitive for their alignment

[VOTE: Santy ] aubergine

Lily said she could solve Porscha alignment . I dont want to go into dya/seanzie today for mech reasons. Skill Issue on your part tbh

[santygrass]

I think that if Alison is town almost always one in Ender/nook should be mafia tbh.

So like, if you want to be more fair and without bias from my own read.
Nanook/ender/alison doesnt feel like a pure group so solving in there might be good

Why?

Because doesnt feel like town violenece onto Alison at all imo. I dont vibed much with the way Alison was pushed maybe.

But now I am rereading and vibing less with alison as a whole so on hold

[Millium]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

You obviously have no clue who I am and what my playstyle is like. How about. If no one else in the thread is sussing me for something, dont try to sus me for something?

No, but either way it's not like ur content is great

[EnderWiggin]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

You obviously have no clue who I am and what my playstyle is like. How about. If no one else in the thread is sussing me for something, dont try to sus me for something?

No. If you see something other people are missing absolutely shine a light on it.

I encourage play that points at things they think other people are missing.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine

@Neon please @ me with ur reads list when you have it done - I think your play has been sorta like how I imagine you as a villager but I want to be sure

@santygrass updated reads list please and work with me to solve tomorrow, okay?

@Porscha legacy please

@Lilypetal

TOWN : ilario, Lily , Mac , Neon
Pretty towny : Alison, Cham , Millium
Townlean: Ender
Null: Belzy
Need flips to reassess: Rondo
Scummy :Nanook
Prob a difference check: Dya, Seanzie
Scum: Tilgarial, Porscha


I think those are all.

Also I want to boost @MacDougall I could also get relevant mech in one of seanzie/dya in the future but idk how much I want to oppose in solving there because its not a guarantee that could be something definitive for their alignment

[VOTE: Santy ] aubergine

Lily said she could solve Porscha alignment . I dont want to go into dya/seanzie today for mech reasons. Skill Issue on your part tbh

If you are voting Nook, I am voting you. Simple

[santygrass]

And also like, the way alison reacted to the push maybe add onto my feeling that it isnt full of Villa's there?

[RondoDimBuckle]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

You obviously have no clue who I am and what my playstyle is like. How about. If no one else in the thread is sussing me for something, dont try to sus me for something?

No. If you see something other people are missing absolutely shine a light on it.

I encourage play that points at things they think other people are missing.

Ugh, I hate how right this is. I am just irritated by the Rondo this and that constantly coming from this slot

[EnderWiggin]

I think that if Alison is town almost always one in Ender/nook should be mafia tbh.

So like, if you want to be more fair and without bias from my own read.
Nanook/ender/alison doesnt feel like a pure group so solving in there might be good

Why?

Because doesnt feel like town violenece onto Alison at all imo. I dont vibed much with the way Alison was pushed maybe.

But now I am rereading and vibing less with alison as a whole so on hold

I mean tbh I don't think Alison is town so shrug.

Just felt like a really weird dichotomy and was narrowed eyes.

[santygrass]

Then I will keep voting nanook hmmyes

[MacDougall]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

[EnderWiggin]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

You obviously have no clue who I am and what my playstyle is like. How about. If no one else in the thread is sussing me for something, dont try to sus me for something?

No. If you see something other people are missing absolutely shine a light on it.

I encourage play that points at things they think other people are missing.

Ugh, I hate how right this is. I am just irritated by the Rondo this and that constantly coming from this slot

Try being less trolly and get less sus. Easy maths. =P

[EnderWiggin]

Like you are currently in the cage of your own making Rondo.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Then I will keep voting nanook hmmyes

Glad we can agree

[RondoDimBuckle]

Like you are currently in the cage of your own making Rondo.

At least its gilded

[EnderWiggin]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

Actually decent show. Hope you enjoy.

[Millium]

Did Neon talk about the mechanical information that led to that post about Alison.

@Neon
Their role changed from can't vote for bonuses to I can't be voted for bonuses. We can't assume you already new it changed because you asked what their role, so I would have expected a response in regards to how that changed ur thoughts. Knowing I haven't caught up yet, is ur mech read on that slot still the same

[MacDougall]

Lol @ Rondo getting reprimanded by his mafia daddy.

[RondoDimBuckle]

ill see what i can catch up with after work
Rondo went back to voting themself, this level of trolling has to be performative

You obviously have no clue who I am and what my playstyle is like. How about. If no one else in the thread is sussing me for something, dont try to sus me for something?

No. If you see something other people are missing absolutely shine a light on it.

I encourage play that points at things they think other people are missing.

Ugh, I hate how right this is. I am just irritated by the Rondo this and that constantly coming from this slot

Try being less trolly and get less sus. Easy maths. =P

Maybe when there are more flips and Mac/You are dead and its not 20+ pages a day I am comfortable where I am right now

[santygrass]

Porscha is an ok exe. Would prefer Wisp or Aro but this is fine.

Wowee post if Porscha is mafia

I feel apathetic because I am set in my reads and short of someone towning it up super hard or outing themselves I doubt I'll change them. Everything I am reading has made me more and more certain in those reads. I know it is confbias but I love being confbiased so that's fine.

I'm not gonna vote unless it's a really dire situation. So there's not much point in me sitting around here arguing with people for the next 7 hours especially since the current wagons are very okay with me anyway. I'm just going to do what Nook does and post my reads and then chill. Ping me if someone towns it up super hard or outs themselves. I will probably check in in the last few minutes just in case I need to self pres or if the wagons are tied between Mac and Aro or something silly.

Lower POE (more scummy): arogame, Millium
Upper POE: Lilypetal, EnderWiggin, Porscha, santygrass
I scumread but Mac is shielding and I trust him: Rondo, Neon
Shrug: dyachei, Chamomile, Nanook
Town: Belzy, SPF, Seanzie
Confident town: Illario, MacDougall, Tilgarial

If you're not on here it means you're meh.

And like .. if Porscha/Tilg are indeed W/W , this amount of wolfsiding of Alison is crazy LOL

[Millium]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

I still gotta catchup with it, good overall, I suggest attack on titans as well, thr final season is nuts

[MacDougall]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

I still gotta catchup with it, good overall, I suggest attack on titans as well, thr final season is nuts

Yeah I've actually watched s1 of Attack on Titan and it was cool as fuck.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Lol @ Rondo getting reprimanded by his mafia daddy.

Lol, I am wishing for the day I am wolf with you and Ender. Will be fun

[EnderWiggin]

Porscha is an ok exe. Would prefer Wisp or Aro but this is fine.

Wowee post if Porscha is mafia

I feel apathetic because I am set in my reads and short of someone towning it up super hard or outing themselves I doubt I'll change them. Everything I am reading has made me more and more certain in those reads. I know it is confbias but I love being confbiased so that's fine.

I'm not gonna vote unless it's a really dire situation. So there's not much point in me sitting around here arguing with people for the next 7 hours especially since the current wagons are very okay with me anyway. I'm just going to do what Nook does and post my reads and then chill. Ping me if someone towns it up super hard or outs themselves. I will probably check in in the last few minutes just in case I need to self pres or if the wagons are tied between Mac and Aro or something silly.

Lower POE (more scummy): arogame, Millium
Upper POE: Lilypetal, EnderWiggin, Porscha, santygrass
I scumread but Mac is shielding and I trust him: Rondo, Neon
Shrug: dyachei, Chamomile, Nanook
Town: Belzy, SPF, Seanzie
Confident town: Illario, MacDougall, Tilgarial

If you're not on here it means you're meh.

And like .. if Porscha/Tilg are indeed W/W , this amount of wolfsiding of Alison is crazy LOL

I would hazard that both Porscha/Tilg are not wolf partners of Alison if it's that obvious. She tends to muddle her spew up a bit.

But at least one absolutely.

[santygrass]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

Yeh it is a good one to start with.

To quickly Summarize the seasons:
S1 Introductory , its alright.
S2 GOAT
S3 GOAT
S4 Falls off a bit
S5 Cmon whats this (Tho it has good moments)
S6 GOAT THIS IS ALL I EVER WANTED

[MacDougall]

Dear Rondo haters.

Rondo is being a Rondo.

Last time Rondo was a Rondo the mafia dragged his ass to final 5 and he became Super Rondo 3 and pew pewed them like a sonic boom.

So we don't reeeeally worry about Rondo on day 2.

[Millium]

[VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine

@Neon please @ me with ur reads list when you have it done - I think your play has been sorta like how I imagine you as a villager but I want to be sure

@santygrass updated reads list please and work with me to solve tomorrow, okay?

@Porscha legacy please

@Lilypetal

TOWN : ilario, Lily , Mac , Neon
Pretty towny : Alison, Cham , Millium
Townlean: Ender
Null: Belzy
Need flips to reassess: Rondo
Scummy :Nanook
Prob a difference check: Dya, Seanzie
Scum: Tilgarial, Porscha


I think those are all.

Also I want to boost @MacDougall I could also get relevant mech in one of seanzie/dya in the future but idk how much I want to oppose in solving there because its not a guarantee that could be something definitive for their alignment

[VOTE: Santy ] aubergine

Lily said she could solve Porscha alignment . I dont want to go into dya/seanzie today for mech reasons. Skill Issue on your part tbh

What mech reasons?

[EnderWiggin]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

I still gotta catchup with it, good overall, I suggest attack on titans as well, thr final season is nuts

Yeah I've actually watched s1 of Attack on Titan and it was cool as fuck.

AoT was too much despair porn for me tbh

[Millium]

Dear Rondo haters.

Rondo is being a Rondo.

Last time Rondo was a Rondo the mafia dragged his ass to final 5 and he became Super Rondo 3 and pew pewed them like a sonic boom.

So we don't reeeeally worry about Rondo on day 2.

Post this game link plz
Anyways clocking in for work

[ilario]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

I still gotta catchup with it, good overall, I suggest attack on titans as well, thr final season is nuts

dude yes!

both are good shows but attack on titan is defs goated

[ilario]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

I still gotta catchup with it, good overall, I suggest attack on titans as well, thr final season is nuts

Yeah I've actually watched s1 of Attack on Titan and it was cool as fuck.

bro watch the rest, it gets better