As far as I know there were two questions: Did you want to build a snowman, and did you believe in magic. Depending on your answer(s) you got removed from the event --- like not wanting to build a snowman.
I have no clue as to what the reward was.
As far as I know there were two questions: Did you want to build a snowman, and did you believe in magic. Depending on your answer(s) you got removed from the event --- like not wanting to build a snowman.
I answered yes to both. Was announced winner right after, can only surmise that was necessary. And that Dizzy also did the same.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:39 amAs far as I know there were two questions: Did you want to build a snowman, and did you believe in magic. Depending on your answer(s) you got removed from the event --- like not wanting to build a snowman.
I have no clue as to what the reward was.
I feel this would only hold if TH would struggle as wolf to have this much input. Is that the case, from past games?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:27 amIt's more-so that it seems to me unless you're just "one of those people" most mafia have difficulty reaching top-posting for d1. At least, not intentionally. 18 posts by that point, by a player I don't expect to top-post and yet is top-posting with that almost half-way into d1, makes my gut yell they're town. Partially because I've also done that sort of read before and have been right about it.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:31 pmHow hard is it to be the top poster with 18 posts?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:34 pm I'm surprised that TH is the top-poster at 18 posts so far lol
If I wanted to make a stupid leap of faith and ignore my past reading mistakes with them I would say they're probably town for this
which I might just to avoid thinking about that
Why is being the top poster meaningful?
It's kinda dumb, but it seems to hold up in my experience. Top-posting beyond d1 though I tend to ignore, as wolves can post more easily with the greater amount of content/discussion topics that have occurred by then.
I see what you did there, but what you and I did was actually pretty different. And it is the difference that makes me feel like I didn't like your post about lucy.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:48 pmThis series of posts is funny but I'm agreeing with Daisy here so I'mma leave it alone. Like that's almost exactly my mindset except I used the second section as a reason to not fully scumread Lucy whereas Daisy used it to not fully townread Lucy.Spoiler: show
Looking up the exact facts:Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:43 amI feel this would only hold if TH would struggle as wolf to have this much input. Is that the case, from past games?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:27 amIt's more-so that it seems to me unless you're just "one of those people" most mafia have difficulty reaching top-posting for d1. At least, not intentionally. 18 posts by that point, by a player I don't expect to top-post and yet is top-posting with that almost half-way into d1, makes my gut yell they're town. Partially because I've also done that sort of read before and have been right about it.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:31 pmHow hard is it to be the top poster with 18 posts?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:34 pm I'm surprised that TH is the top-poster at 18 posts so far lol
If I wanted to make a stupid leap of faith and ignore my past reading mistakes with them I would say they're probably town for this
which I might just to avoid thinking about that
Why is being the top poster meaningful?
It's kinda dumb, but it seems to hold up in my experience. Top-posting beyond d1 though I tend to ignore, as wolves can post more easily with the greater amount of content/discussion topics that have occurred by then.
Your punishment for forgetting the game will be making fun to head reads on everyone in the game based solely on their avatar.
I thought if he reacted with some sort of acknowledgement of that by now then it would be a point in his favor. But instead they haven't posted at all since my vote on them and just disappeared.
This seems like a genuine answer to me and that makes it slightly town.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:37 pmI’m better mafia than town because everyone thinks I’m suspicious all the time anyway. The way I think about things tends to not be like most people so what is just my normal suspicions don’t make sense to others. For the first year I played I was almost always killed but the civ vig when I was town. So I don’t think my read accuracy is much to write home about. I think I can take my town meta pretty easily as mafia though so I don’t know how much that helps you. I’ll look up a couple meta game examples for you in a minute.
I am more of an intuitive player, if the posts get crazy out of hand, I will struggle to keep up. I will never reach that 100 post cap. Also, I’m a slow starter. It takes me a minute to get my feet under me, but my activity increases as we go because I gain confidence. Not much of a shit poster.
What do you want to know about when you ask what my experience is? How long I’ve been playing?
I see. Cool.
it's nai now, because my memory is basically photographic I can use it for later cycles if she doesn't align, and if she is v then I will know her strengths and weaknesses better. it's not information for now, it's for later.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:48 pmI'd be inclined to believe lucy's thing here. There's a "fill out this form" and here are the results. Love it. But...
I have a hang up.
Here's the thing hanging, well, up:
What does lucy take away from the people who answered "non-evasively" or "open?" (However you wish to put it).
So I'll be interested in knowing lucy's takeaways from this exercise for people like Spacedaisy, who answered in earnest and didn't make a joke like I did.
@Boquise @Dyslexicon can confirm I don't make reads particularly early, but I'm trying to change that and I'm gonna make a reads list in the morningRicochet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:49 am It was on the sus side at that halfway point because - whilst admittedly absent since - it was the only thing you did and it did not develop. Profiling or asking for meta info doesn't have inherent value until you develop reads or read into the reactions received.
correct, it's not worth much in way of town cred, but it wasn't a blatant fucking grasp for town cred or anything like that, I just take issue for being scumread for it when I do it in most games, I almost certainly have a scum on my wagonRicochet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:17 am I'm still the same. If it's not your MO to detail reads this early, fine, but your questioning method doesn't amount to much on its own. As town, it would be an ok effort, but not cred-gaining in any way. As mafia, it would seem like credible effort to look, but only surface level.
everyone is circumstantially town while I'm talking to themBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:00 amDoes that mean he's a town read in this game right now?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:42 am Epi I learned a lot about formulating reads from you and based on this and Bayesian stuff I’m gonna tell you that I sorta expect your read on Moonwink to be wrong (I have read zero moonwink posts)
Bb <3
ur a math major?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 am my right ear isn't working, I'm stuck in orlando, and I have to get to real analysis in 5.5 hours
Probably a bad assumption. Likelihood probably randlucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:22 amcorrect, it's not worth much in way of town cred, but it wasn't a blatant fucking grasp for town cred or anything like that, I just take issue for being scumread for it when I do it in most games, I almost certainly have a scum on my wagonRicochet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:17 am I'm still the same. If it's not your MO to detail reads this early, fine, but your questioning method doesn't amount to much on its own. As town, it would be an ok effort, but not cred-gaining in any way. As mafia, it would seem like credible effort to look, but only surface level.
feels like ur baiting me again, but why?
Sure, spoiler'd.
I’m not. I wanted to move my vote. I don’t have any strong suspicions myself. TH has been itching in the back of my mind. They came in with very early and loose town reads of me and Daisy. Would actually be interested to check whether that is custom for their mafia play, to shoot out reads like that possibly in a tmi manner. I don’t have the time to check that right now tho. But would be interested to see @TripleHaven’s last games as mafia and town. I know they did say they often have early reads. Also lol meta diving tbh.
Musiclucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:36 amur a math major?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 am my right ear isn't working, I'm stuck in orlando, and I have to get to real analysis in 5.5 hours
Not that far off =pTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:18 amMusiclucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:36 amur a math major?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 am my right ear isn't working, I'm stuck in orlando, and I have to get to real analysis in 5.5 hours
Kim Jung Un's sister is hot tbhTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play
Why bother speculating on who mafia will kill? Its not even eod yet.Moonwink wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:12 pmPeople in #2 are probably gonna die sooner rather than later if they are town, I bet, regardless if they are in our towncore or not. I want a semi-longlasting towncore right now. A towncore with any of those four people isn't gonna matter if they die N1. :3TripleHaven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:59 pmI don't agree to the logic that we should be towncoring people without individually townreading them first. I'm not completely opposed to epi in towncore but you'd have to make the case he is town. Until that point I am perfectly OK with adding space to towncore.Moonwink wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:48 pm@TripleHavenTripleHaven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:47 pm Most players have admitted they either wont be active at all or wont be active until later today
so im sort of just biding my time until then
unordered readlist
martin
dyslexicon
spacedaisy
epig
ricochet
I wanna collaborate with you to make a 5 person towncore right now.
Here are my rules though:
1.) I'm okay with it having at most two scum in it right now.
2.) It can NOT include Martin, Dizzy, Ricochet, or Lucy
Right now, assuming we're both in the town core, I want to include SpaceDaisy and Epi, because based on the vibes I get from their interactions, I don't think there's more than one wolf between them, if any. Do you agree with this?
I don't know if you read me town or scum right now. If you do, then Epi and I are the two scum you can have in this towncore -- you with me so far? Going with these assumptions, and the conditions I laid out in rule #2, who would be a good 5th person? Would that 5th person change depending if I was scum or not?
GTH I think you're town.
You've basically left me with no options after banning those 4 players and disagreeing to epi. The only option that has posted more than like 5 times out of that group is jack, who hasn't given much to work with so far. Is there absolutely no way I could convince you on anyone in 2)?
Town link doesn't work.TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:14 am @Dyslexicon
A town game from me
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... d=16172864
Scum game from me
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Automated
Checked the ISO's a page or two, I can see how lucy took her sweet time bantering and talking philosphy and shtuff (300-400 posts in) and made just one or two meta inquiry post, I think, - towards fellow wolf TH, no less - though eventually she reaches the same "I don't make reads this early = I don't have much to express" mindset she expressed in here as well.TripleHaven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:15 am Lucy and I were both scum in that game BTW
They were a lot less proactive there than in this game
For the record, I saw Lucy's ping to me asking about meta and then read her first like 3-4 posts where were mostly also about meta. I didn't see any townie things. The only hedge was that it was a small reason to suspect someone.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:49 am I see what you did there, but what you and I did was actually pretty different. And it is the difference that makes me feel like I didn't like your post about lucy.
I went into it not paying much attention to lucy but have a good feeling about her because she appeared to be asking town-minded questions. Then I forced myself to look because I realized I didn't know if she had offered anything of interest or offered any reads or content of her own and when I saw the answer was no, it flipped my feeling on her. I was clear about what had changed my mind.
But you simply said hey the things she did looks towny, so maybe my feeling of bad vibes on her is just paranoia. You said I have these generic bad feelings for no particular reason. But hey, look, she said towny things! So it must just be paranoia. That feels to me like putting the idea out there that people suspecting her at that point were just being paranoid and we can now dismiss them. Plus, various people said the same thing about lucy as I did. You were the one going the other way, downplaying the suspicion.
That is a little interesting, should one of them flip wolf.
how likely was it that epi would've snapped at me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pmThat is a little interesting, should one of them flip wolf.
70%? idklucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:07 pmhow likely was it that epi would've snapped at me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pmThat is a little interesting, should one of them flip wolf.