Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[TonyStarkPrime]

i'm a miller though. dw, scum me doesn't like to fake claim even when it's advantageous. i think the miller claims are for the most part real

For the most part?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean with the amount of miller claims at least one has to be mafia right

But that’s not a helpful pool cause it’s so big

[Spacedaisy]

also daisy pls give me that read on alison when u get the chance

gotta figure out how to read daisy

Did I miss where you asked me to give a read on Alison?

Alison was one of the ones I felt wishy washy about in the GTHs. I lean toward Alison being good, I don't really see the game the same way as Alison, but I see effort to find wolves and it seems genuine.

[Hally]

Mafia hav fake roles. Those have Miller powers. They know they exist, they claim Miller. It’s not hard.

this is less than ideal

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean with the amount of miller claims at least one has to be mafia right

But that’s not a helpful pool cause it’s so big

There are... six? It’s probably just slightly <rand mafia if that’s the only thing you’re thinking about. Which is why if I were a wolf my entire team would have claimed miller by now.

[Hally]

how do we know jack gave mafia fake town roles though?

im confused

[TonyStarkPrime]

this is just to say: don’t think much of Miller claims

[TonyStarkPrime]

Rule 6

[Hally]

i mean, if i was maf id have claimed miller already for sure even if i didnt know it was in the game because like... why the hell not. maf has nothing to lose by being the... seventh? miller claim in the game

[Hally]

Rule 6

fudge

so if one of them got a fake claim with the miller add on the whole team knew about it from the start?

jack you absolute maniac hee ho!

[Epignosis]

[vimeo][/vimeo]

@Alison
you never responded before if I recall
is this the same Alison that was in the Chief Delphi Magika Madoka FM game?

Yeah, that was me. Why do you ask?

nice to play with you again
and no reason, but I expect us to probably butt heads throughout this game though
if you are in fact town lol

gotta go grab food

If it means anything, I was genuinely unmotivated that game. It was spammy, I didn't click with any of the players, and I had to deal with elijah trying to wriggle out of a lynch by falsely claiming his grandmother died or some shit followed immediately by witnessing him OGI to spew his alignment, forcing a modkill. Needless to say Iost the will to play after that and just ended up "subbing" out (not going over when the game moved sites). So, very different circumstances between these two games. Hopefully none of the things that happened in that game will be true here.

[Funnygurl555]

also daisy pls give me that read on alison when u get the chance

gotta figure out how to read daisy

Did I miss where you asked me to give a read on Alison?

Alison was one of the ones I felt wishy washy about in the GTHs. I lean toward Alison being good, I don't really see the game the same way as Alison, but I see effort to find wolves and it seems genuine.

hmm ok.

i see her being universally town read and i gotta caution y'all against that. she's SCARY. thanks

for my purposes anyways this was a null response. wasn't scummy tho which is cool. i have gone nowhere

[Hally]

does that mean i cant trust tony or kitsu anymore

because i still wanna trust them

alison and fg are the claims i trust less

thats all the claims besides mine right?

[Funnygurl555]

i'm a miller though. dw, scum me doesn't like to fake claim even when it's advantageous. i think the miller claims are for the most part real

For the most part?

yeah. there could be a scum in the later ones, (or................. a 3p), but you or hally? nah.

[sprityo]

Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.

literally rand%

Why is that equal to a random distribution?

if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.

anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot

y'all

y'all

why are you overreacting? How is he a mis-kill?

1. not overreacting.

2. sprityo was killed last game i played because he was magically scum read by everyone except me basically. and he flipped town. do i think he's town now? i mean not necessarily. he's null for me

this happens a lot, but I die for the good of the town, I can assure you.

last i checked i have a >50% lynched as town ratio

[Spacedaisy]

also daisy pls give me that read on alison when u get the chance

gotta figure out how to read daisy

Did I miss where you asked me to give a read on Alison?

Alison was one of the ones I felt wishy washy about in the GTHs. I lean toward Alison being good, I don't really see the game the same way as Alison, but I see effort to find wolves and it seems genuine.

hmm ok.

i see her being universally town read and i gotta caution y'all against that. she's SCARY. thanks

for my purposes anyways this was a null response. wasn't scummy tho which is cool. i have gone nowhere

Do you read her wolf? I'm trying do some ISOs before Day ends, I will do hers too. I appreciate the warning as I have no experience playing or watching her play. I would not say she is lock town for me or anything, but i haven't seen anything alarming yet.

[Epignosis]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

animal crossing

Asshat's Creed.

[Funnygurl555]

i'm a miller though. dw, scum me doesn't like to fake claim even when it's advantageous. i think the miller claims are for the most part real

For the most part?

yeah. there could be a scum in the later ones, (or................. a 3p), but you or hally? nah.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fr fr tho the more probable explanation to me is that we got towns and 3ps who are millers......... hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Hally]

also daisy pls give me that read on alison when u get the chance

gotta figure out how to read daisy

Did I miss where you asked me to give a read on Alison?

Alison was one of the ones I felt wishy washy about in the GTHs. I lean toward Alison being good, I don't really see the game the same way as Alison, but I see effort to find wolves and it seems genuine.

hmm ok.

i see her being universally town read and i gotta caution y'all against that. she's SCARY. thanks

for my purposes anyways this was a null response. wasn't scummy tho which is cool. i have gone nowhere

but dont you tr alison too?

and yes, shes scary good as scum

[Funnygurl555]

also daisy pls give me that read on alison when u get the chance

gotta figure out how to read daisy

Did I miss where you asked me to give a read on Alison?

Alison was one of the ones I felt wishy washy about in the GTHs. I lean toward Alison being good, I don't really see the game the same way as Alison, but I see effort to find wolves and it seems genuine.

hmm ok.

i see her being universally town read and i gotta caution y'all against that. she's SCARY. thanks

for my purposes anyways this was a null response. wasn't scummy tho which is cool. i have gone nowhere

Do you read her wolf? I'm trying do some ISOs before Day ends, I will do hers too. I appreciate the warning as I have no experience playing or watching her play. I would not say she is lock town for me or anything, but i haven't seen anything alarming yet.

i actually read her as town right now. her reaction towards me prematurely town reading her was very pure. as for her reads/pushes, i'm not like the biggest fan of them-- it seems like the same agenda-driven pushes i've seen in her past wolf games. it's not the hardest town read i got. i'm willing to change it in light of new evidence

[Hally]

i think the chances we have some kind of 3p or SK or something are pretty high

[Funnygurl555]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

animal crossing

Asshat's Creed.

didn't you win that game tho

[Funnygurl555]

i think the chances we have some kind of 3p or SK or something are pretty high

i think it's interesting that no one's talked about it yet tho. unless they have and i missed it, but we were just discussing the veracity of the miller claims without considering what they could mean

[Epignosis]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

animal crossing

Asshat's Creed.

didn't you win that game tho

I did.

[Hally]

i think the chances we have some kind of 3p or SK or something are pretty high

i think it's interesting that no one's talked about it yet tho. unless they have and i missed it, but we were just discussing the veracity of the miller claims without considering what they could mean

i mean, for me the miller claims are not necessarily tied to the presence of 3P. i just think like, independently of anything, in a game like this theres likely to be some sort of 3P

i see no real use dwelling on it atm though

[Epignosis]

I honestly don't care how many town losses I have to contribute to before I stop getting suspected for my normal playstyle.

[sprityo]

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Hi Jay, What's bothering you now?

Is it Long Con? I can go shout at him if you want

[sprityo]

2. sprityo was killed last game i played because he was magically scum read by everyone except me basically. and he flipped town. do i think he's town now? i mean not necessarily. he's null for me

This is a lot of words that say nothing.

90% of what i've been reading in this thread has felt like nothing

[Epignosis]

I'm on page 23. Going to call it a night.

[sprityo]

why is sprityo being scumread

pls explain thanks

His hunting doesn't inspire me -- it's driven by the miller claims, and he has kept his vote plopped on Tony among them for much of the day so far. I don't know why it should be Tony, why sprityo cares, or what's going on in his head.

Jay there as no hunting. I havent been in thread.

spinning some crap about not inspiring you is like saying you think colin should voice his opinion more.

neither of which can happen.

[sprityo]

why is sprityo being scumread

pls explain thanks

His hunting doesn't inspire me -- it's driven by the miller claims, and he has kept his vote plopped on Tony among them for much of the day so far. I don't know why it should be Tony, why sprityo cares, or what's going on in his head.

oh ok. yeah that's a good read then

hey @Spacedaisy could u give me a read on alison's?

this acceptance of it was sad too

[Funnygurl555]

why is sprityo being scumread

pls explain thanks

His hunting doesn't inspire me -- it's driven by the miller claims, and he has kept his vote plopped on Tony among them for much of the day so far. I don't know why it should be Tony, why sprityo cares, or what's going on in his head.

oh ok. yeah that's a good read then

hey @Spacedaisy could u give me a read on alison's?

this acceptance of it was sad too

what can i say? it makes sense. i can't harp on people for scum reading you if that's the case

[Millium]

2. sprityo was killed last game i played because he was magically scum read by everyone except me basically. and he flipped town. do i think he's town now? i mean not necessarily. he's null for me

This is a lot of words that say nothing.

90% of what i've been reading in this thread has felt like nothing

how much have you read? I think there has been a decent amount of arguments?
this feels lazy

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tbf this is a hard thread to catch up on

[sprityo]

Hot Take: Jay knows im slacking and knows I can be a strong town player given time and has convinced the thread out of my like... 5 posts? that I am "uninspiring" in my content. when I made the most ridiculous claim as to why I wanted to vote millers. I also explained why not voting hally.

Also Jay, your chart is ugly

I liked tony's posts he made recently, so I dont think he's mafia. If anything I dont believe that theory in the first place, Y'all gotta relax more.

I will say now that i've gone through the whole thread i dont like Wisp. my vote will be better served there. [VOTE: wisp] aubergine

In general the way he went about using his word choice devolved the thread into a less curated or appropriate way to conduct the feeling out of intentions.

[Millium]

Tbf this is a hard thread to catch up on

das is true, I'll give him that
but IDK why he needs to pretend like people arent putting effort in this game

[sprityo]

Straight up, unless i start wailing to the crowd i'll just get lynched AGAIN and it is. so. freaking. tiring.
Maybe I was wrong to sign up for a "Champs game" as my first game back

No one's going to make me play more than how much i want to play, you get effort when i decide i want to do some freaking work.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

why is sprityo being scumread

pls explain thanks

His hunting doesn't inspire me -- it's driven by the miller claims, and he has kept his vote plopped on Tony among them for much of the day so far. I don't know why it should be Tony, why sprityo cares, or what's going on in his head.

Jay there as no hunting. I havent been in thread.

spinning some crap about not inspiring you is like saying you think colin should voice his opinion more.

neither of which can happen.

You have inspired me before.

[Millium]

I will say now that i've gone through the whole thread i dont like Wisp. my vote will be better served there. [VOTE: WISP] aubergine

In general the way he went about using his word choice devolved the thread into a less curated or appropriate way to conduct the feeling out of intentions.

Explain this like I am 5
k thanks

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hot Take: Jay knows im slacking and knows I can be a strong town player given time and has convinced the thread out of my like... 5 posts? that I am "uninspiring" in my content. when I made the most ridiculous claim as to why I wanted to vote millers. I also explained why not voting hally.

What is the hot take here? What's your stance?

[Millium]

you know what makes this game harder for mafia to win? its called giving your impressions of anything.
I dont stand for stuff like, "you know what I can bring"
I am trying to get people to respond to the game, and find wolves

[Millium]

all the lower posters are just like
"you will get work when I feel like doing work"
while simultaneously attacking all the people for putting effort in
or in sprityo's case, chopping down all the scum hunting in the thread to being utterly useless

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tbf this is a hard thread to catch up on

das is true, I'll give him that
but IDK why he needs to pretend like people arent putting effort in this game

I mean like

If I were super behind and skimming this thread and saw a bunch of hee hos and miller claims I might be skeptical too lolol

Also, like, one of your go to moves is to say I’m not doing enough whether I am or not, so this is a big ol MEH from me

[Millium]

its hard to not react this way
I just want people to give thoughts that are pro-active rather than re-active, so I can try to read them

[Hally]

In general the way he went about using his word choice devolved the thread into a less curated or appropriate way to conduct the feeling out of intentions.

sorry, what?

also do you think jay is mafia?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

its hard to not react this way
I just want people to give thoughts that are pro-active rather than re-active, so I can try to read them

That’s just not how a significant amount of people play mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

90% of what i've been reading in this thread has felt like nothing

This is why Sloonei and I so often promote a policy of "don't catch up with every single post". There is a ton of substantive content in this game right now. A ton. It's not nothing at all. And yet, it's common for people to go through a catch-up period and really believe they've gained nothing. That's because without the context derived from the moment in time, things tend to be more difficult to grasp -- at least when they aren't constructed into coherent narratives (e.g. walls). So people end up expending all of their energy for minimal-to-no gain, and they're no better off than they would be had they just jumped into the current dialogue blind and gone from there.

This post is only barely relevant; consider it a philosophical bit for post-game or something.

[Millium]

Tbf this is a hard thread to catch up on

das is true, I'll give him that
but IDK why he needs to pretend like people arent putting effort in this game

I mean like

If I were super behind and skimming this thread and saw a bunch of hee hos and miller claims I might be skeptical too lolol

Also, like, one of your go to moves is to say I’m not doing enough whether I am or not, so this is a big ol MEH from me

lol the miller stuff did eat a way at a lot of the earlier pages, but there is more content now
and I have high standards

also why do you have something to say about every post I seem to make, let me do my thing

[Millium]

its hard to not react this way
I just want people to give thoughts that are pro-active rather than re-active, so I can try to read them

That’s just not how a significant amount of people play mafia

lol...
go away Clem
there is a nice comfy in between
trying to solve everything will burn you out
doing nothing helps no one

[Funnygurl555]

I have high standards

good for you. i have none