Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:44 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
heySeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:56 am I am getting somewhat frustrated.
I feel like many people are playing in a wholly anti-town way. First Epi refusing to do a simple exercise to see if he is giving Zenon a fair shake, now Rem refusing to answer simple questions about their read on me. Guillo acting like this.
I think we need to chop these slots. If they're town, town deserves the misex. If they're mafia, good. Either way, their presence makes the game non-conducive to solving.
ah, no falcon until tomorrow, if thatfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:21 pmFalcon literally anime gif'd. They aren't hiding.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:20 pm2) Really? Cause when we were interacting and I was promoting pressure for Seanzie, Falcon shaded me and then bug the hell out and then came back with a naked vote, so they have been hidingDrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:22 pm1. Cape established a copying pattern which I find mafia more likely to do, in addition cape hasn't shown town.
2. Falcon hasn't gone to hide yet so he's town.
5. Tutuu is pushing content harder than a wombat with a number fetish, which is at least pro town + gut read.
6. W Epi feels stale. This Epi doesn't feel stale. Gut read mostly.
He will be gone for the weekend tho, Rock n Roll duties call
https://www.dogpatchmusicfest.com/lineup/smokewagon
I just quoted it above, which is the end of pressuring tutuu in a manner that I find to be Seanzie mimicking his town game, and which ends with that inauthentic finaleGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:33 pmI don't know.
Im gonna ask you again in case you missed it the first time.
What were the voteable posts from Seanzie?
In that post you quoted it is Wilgy who posted that Tutuu read not Seanzie.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:34 pmI just quoted it above, which is the end of pressuring tutuu in a manner that I find to be Seanzie mimicking his town game, and which ends with that inauthentic finaleGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:33 pmI don't know.
Im gonna ask you again in case you missed it the first time.
What were the voteable posts from Seanzie?
this post?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:39 pmIn that post you quoted it is Wilgy who posted that Tutuu read not Seanzie.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:34 pmI just quoted it above, which is the end of pressuring tutuu in a manner that I find to be Seanzie mimicking his town game, and which ends with that inauthentic finaleGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:33 pmI don't know.
Im gonna ask you again in case you missed it the first time.
What were the voteable posts from Seanzie?
the post where tutuu says sean is scum if wrong again in the future?
seanzie tunnels quite often as town, sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong, the activity itself is NAIGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:41 pmOh you meant this one?
I honestly dont understand the metaphor there, why is that post scummy, like can you explain in detail?
is this actually true or were u wolfingSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:56 pmI have a secret tell on Porscha that hasn't been wrong yet, even before she broke out of her volume-tell issue. I'd rather not say what it is because I've been able to catch her off like 3 posts a few times, and I can usually find her town very quickly when she is town.
Presumably you mean this one, which wasn't addressed to anyone, but it seems now you want me to answer it? Sure.
No, not really, but I feel like I've had a good read on him. Since my time on TS, Epi is not someone who played a lot (recently he seems to be playing a lot more though), so I've probably only played 4-5 games from him. Our first game together was my first game on the site and he was a wolf and came for me hard, and I fought back and we ended up winning handedly after a 1-shot cop eventually confirmed that me/him was not t/t, but that i was indeed right on Epi. Our second game was a game where Epi was fully roleplaying as the main character from Fallout 2, posting only in pipboy notes. He was town and heavily suspected me. I was town (repped in on like D3 after 2 other people were in my slot) and didn't find him, but didn't sus him hard (iirc) prior to his death. We wolfed together once (and won handedly - partially by doing quite a bit of theatre). There was a game recently that he was scum and I called him out for it and got D1'd (him and Delta went on to win), and those are all the games I can remember that him and I played together. There isn't a specific pattern to how he plays (no "typical" playstyle), but I feel reasonably good about my ability to read him.
Question is: Do you believe I believed it or not?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm oh the metaphor is https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/earned+his+stripes
Seanzie is saying "nah I'm right, you're scum, and when you flipped I'll be vindicated/look good/earn a towncore for it"
Both.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:52 pm @Seanzie I know this is from another game and you were wolfing there but
is this actually true or were u wolfingSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:56 pmI have a secret tell on Porscha that hasn't been wrong yet, even before she broke out of her volume-tell issue. I'd rather not say what it is because I've been able to catch her off like 3 posts a few times, and I can usually find her town very quickly when she is town.
Which aged poorly as Tutuu flipped town.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm oh the metaphor is https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/earned+his+stripes
Seanzie is saying "nah I'm right, you're scum, and when you flipped I'll be vindicated/look good/earn a towncore for it"
why does me not mentioning alignments mean jack shit hereSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:06 pmPresumably you mean this one, which wasn't addressed to anyone, but it seems now you want me to answer it? Sure.
No, not really, but I feel like I've had a good read on him. Since my time on TS, Epi is not someone who played a lot (recently he seems to be playing a lot more though), so I've probably only played 4-5 games from him. Our first game together was my first game on the site and he was a wolf and came for me hard, and I fought back and we ended up winning handedly after a 1-shot cop eventually confirmed that me/him was not t/t, but that i was indeed right on Epi. Our second game was a game where Epi was fully roleplaying as the main character from Fallout 2, posting only in pipboy notes. He was town and heavily suspected me. I was town (repped in on like D3 after 2 other people were in my slot) and didn't find him, but didn't sus him hard (iirc) prior to his death. We wolfed together once (and won handedly - partially by doing quite a bit of theatre). There was a game recently that he was scum and I called him out for it and got D1'd (him and Delta went on to win), and those are all the games I can remember that him and I played together. There isn't a specific pattern to how he plays (no "typical" playstyle), but I feel reasonably good about my ability to read him.
Why are you asking about if Epi has a "typical" playstyle with no mention of alignments?
I'm processing that, but at this point, no I don't think you believed it but currently I have you as town anywaySeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:07 pmQuestion is: Do you believe I believed it or not?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm oh the metaphor is https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/earned+his+stripes
Seanzie is saying "nah I'm right, you're scum, and when you flipped I'll be vindicated/look good/earn a towncore for it"
You don't care if Epi looks like his typical wolf self vs typical town self?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:18 pmwhy does me not mentioning alignments mean jack shit hereSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:06 pmPresumably you mean this one, which wasn't addressed to anyone, but it seems now you want me to answer it? Sure.
No, not really, but I feel like I've had a good read on him. Since my time on TS, Epi is not someone who played a lot (recently he seems to be playing a lot more though), so I've probably only played 4-5 games from him. Our first game together was my first game on the site and he was a wolf and came for me hard, and I fought back and we ended up winning handedly after a 1-shot cop eventually confirmed that me/him was not t/t, but that i was indeed right on Epi. Our second game was a game where Epi was fully roleplaying as the main character from Fallout 2, posting only in pipboy notes. He was town and heavily suspected me. I was town (repped in on like D3 after 2 other people were in my slot) and didn't find him, but didn't sus him hard (iirc) prior to his death. We wolfed together once (and won handedly - partially by doing quite a bit of theatre). There was a game recently that he was scum and I called him out for it and got D1'd (him and Delta went on to win), and those are all the games I can remember that him and I played together. There isn't a specific pattern to how he plays (no "typical" playstyle), but I feel reasonably good about my ability to read him.
Why are you asking about if Epi has a "typical" playstyle with no mention of alignments?
You thought that asking about playstyle didn't imply that at all?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:19 pmYou don't care if Epi looks like his typical wolf self vs typical town self?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:18 pmwhy does me not mentioning alignments mean jack shit hereSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:06 pmPresumably you mean this one, which wasn't addressed to anyone, but it seems now you want me to answer it? Sure.
No, not really, but I feel like I've had a good read on him. Since my time on TS, Epi is not someone who played a lot (recently he seems to be playing a lot more though), so I've probably only played 4-5 games from him. Our first game together was my first game on the site and he was a wolf and came for me hard, and I fought back and we ended up winning handedly after a 1-shot cop eventually confirmed that me/him was not t/t, but that i was indeed right on Epi. Our second game was a game where Epi was fully roleplaying as the main character from Fallout 2, posting only in pipboy notes. He was town and heavily suspected me. I was town (repped in on like D3 after 2 other people were in my slot) and didn't find him, but didn't sus him hard (iirc) prior to his death. We wolfed together once (and won handedly - partially by doing quite a bit of theatre). There was a game recently that he was scum and I called him out for it and got D1'd (him and Delta went on to win), and those are all the games I can remember that him and I played together. There isn't a specific pattern to how he plays (no "typical" playstyle), but I feel reasonably good about my ability to read him.
Why are you asking about if Epi has a "typical" playstyle with no mention of alignments?
none and not yetGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:17 pmWhich aged poorly as Tutuu flipped town.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm oh the metaphor is https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/earned+his+stripes
Seanzie is saying "nah I'm right, you're scum, and when you flipped I'll be vindicated/look good/earn a towncore for it"
What was your read on me day 1 and has it changed today?
because I know that it's a nonsense point to bring up, which little to no validity from game to game, not even getting into alignment vs alignment for reading you
You've slanked a bit in this game, care to let us know when you have read the 2-10 pages? Full context is important to take voting decisions unless you are the kind of player who thrives in detecting suspicioys micro tells.
Then why did you vote me yesterday then?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:22 pmnone and not yetGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:17 pmWhich aged poorly as Tutuu flipped town.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm oh the metaphor is https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/earned+his+stripes
Seanzie is saying "nah I'm right, you're scum, and when you flipped I'll be vindicated/look good/earn a towncore for it"
What was your read on me day 1 and has it changed today?
tutuu was townGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:27 pmThen why did you vote me yesterday then?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:22 pmnone and not yetGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:17 pmWhich aged poorly as Tutuu flipped town.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm oh the metaphor is https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/earned+his+stripes
Seanzie is saying "nah I'm right, you're scum, and when you flipped I'll be vindicated/look good/earn a towncore for it"
What was your read on me day 1 and has it changed today?
we're building trust hereGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:25 pmYou've slanked a bit in this game, care to let us know when you have read the 2-10 pages? Full context is important to take voting decisions unless you are the kind of player who thrives in detecting suspicioys micro tells.
Also wouldnt hurt if you checked Epi's ISO since you dont have a read on them and you were voting along side with them until you switched to Robyn,
I… dont follow, mind rephrasing your concern?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:33 pmwe're building trust hereGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:25 pmYou've slanked a bit in this game, care to let us know when you have read the 2-10 pages? Full context is important to take voting decisions unless you are the kind of player who thrives in detecting suspicioys micro tells.
Also wouldnt hurt if you checked Epi's ISO since you dont have a read on them and you were voting along side with them until you switched to Robyn,
trust me that I'm very interested when I have time to pay attention, and the fact that you made a whole deal about me and Seanzie being paired or not paired and then sussing Seanzie for not going hard on me (um, until now, interestingly enough) is on my mind
and that means that being next to Epi was also on my mind
but you didn't bring that up until I moved off Seanzie
so what's up with that
No, it just occurred to me pointing out now, that is why i asked what your read on Epi was to see if you townread him enough to feel comfortable voting Seanzie with him, you said you didnt have a read on Epi, so i question where is your lack of paranoia with regards to Epi.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:45 pm I've been voting with Epi since near SOD, or whatever
you had a bunch of other concerns about me
but you only brought up me voting with Epi _after_ I moved off Seanzie
I think that's weird. because you seem like the type to notice everything. weird ≠ scummy. so like, did it just not occur to you to ask sooner?
I am curious as to how tutuu and I were "pocketing" each other.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:01 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Im down with putting some pressure there.
Cape90 did suspect Zenon early and Epi voiced a suspicion on Zenon as well but chainsawed Cape90 for suspecting Zenon which is a very wtf moment.
I also thought that there was a wolf in Tutuu/Epi for the way they were pocketing each other yesterday but Tutuu's w/w reads were sooo non-sensical that i thought it couldnt possibly come from town and kinda forgot about Epi.
What are these signs that you are seeing "more of?" This implies that you are examining me and have found new evidence in the thread that I tried super hard lynch Cape90, failed at my task, went back into my chat with my tail between my legs and told my team, "You know what guys? I just couldn't get the job done today. We now have no choice this Night 1 but to kill Cape90. It's the only way."Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:01 pmBut Im seeing more signs that Epi could be a wolf here whom tried to misexe Cape90 and since he couldnt, he just had to kill him.
My vote was on Seanzie.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:01 pm I understand that he allegedly townread both Tutuu and I and that is his alibi for staying on Cape90 at EoD1, but the more i read his ISO the more the pieces fit if he is scum with either Zenon.
Zenon is your teammate who saved you Day 1.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:58 pm Like for example im paranoid about Zenon who is voting with me after i voiced a possible association with Epi with her. Questions come into mind such as:
Why is she sheeping me on Epi now?
Is this scum!Zenon trying to distance from Epi?
Or, is this town!Zenon who realized she is being set up by scum!Epi and voted there to kill that association.