The Syndicate

These are G-Man's only mentions of Made Day 1. I'm a little confused by this, why did you vote for Kyle and Made, @G-Man and not someone like TSP who only had an x?

Oh wait, Kyle had two x's. I can't read

So after re-reading Day 1 (aka the last time all of us were in the same room together), my suspicions from highest sus to lowest are:

Marmot
Moghedien
Tony
Daisy
G-Man


Marmot spends a fair amount of D1 in his whimsical ‘not taking this too seriously’ style but some of his responses are high on cheekiness quotient. He comes and goes, leaving stretches of time for the game to develop and then reacts to it upon his return. Of interesting note is that he pops back up in the last two hours and is fairly active throughout. Perhaps he was there to massage a few final votes for an 2-1 split. Made isn’t one to fear the LB, as he’s cool under pressure by default. Marmot isn’t one to get too worked up about a teammate getting sent down to the LB. He established enough sensible thought amidst his goofiness to be taken seriously. In other words, he’s flying just about an inch or two above the radar. That’s his comfort zone. In glossing through his ISO, he has a knack for showing up at just the right time to chime in when it’s advantageous. Kind of like what he did just now.

Moghedien entered the game with bright-eyed bushy-tailed optimism and a high desire to jump right into interactions. They are new to TS, and they got to state puzzlement at culture clash in terms of how we interact around here on D1. There may also be a time zone constraint with Moghedien. I saw a post where they were going to bed at 8:00 am EST. Where you at on the map? Moghedien is leaning hard on requiring back-and-forth interactions in bulk to make reads. Sure, the more you talk, the more a baddie risks slipping, but more talking from civs gives the baddies more ammo to twist a few things into a hunch into a case and into a mischop. Because it seems to be Moghedien’s nature to turn the cranks until the wine press yields the a-ha moment, I can see Moghedien as a civ who is desperate enough to solve the game that they start trying to shove square pegs into round holes and proclaim them triangles when they don’t fit. But it also seems like a baddie trying to force out a win in F5 rather than letting it go to F3. I suspect Moghedien is flailing about looking at how bad they can make everyone look in the hopes of duping just one person to go along with them.

Even playing the vote analysis game it seems very plausible. Moghedien was under the radar with sporadic participation, an apparent eagerness to drum up results, and the Big Loud Three making it hard to get a word in edgewise at times. Marmot and Moghedien laid down enough votes on slots 4-8 that it just kept Marmot out of the LB.

D2 Moghedien didn’t even vote and had four posts all phase. Marmot did what he needed to do to move the conversation along so his teammate could sit back and watch. It worked well and we paid the price for forgetting to pay attention to people who were talking the talk at the right times. D3, Kyle was already meh-looking, especially after avoiding the LB the day before. HK was ready to go down and lay the smack on the LB, so what are two baddies to do but grant that wish.

Of the two of them, I think I’d like to vote for Marmot first, then Moghedien tomorrow. I want to test Moghedien and see who they pick to try to setup as scapegoat in F3 and/or leave alive to try to dupe.

Thoughts?

Here's every time Daisy mentioned/interacted with Made before his yeet. If this is a partner performance, it's a helluva a performance. On a day when 4 people are being yeeted, I'd be a little surprised if the wolves would try to distance/bus each other this hard. I guess Made was never suspecting Daisy, that was always a townread from him, but Daisy could have saved him in the end and didn't.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm

Spoiler: show

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:38 pm Slight correction to my earlier assessment- the split between those whom I have experience with and those whom I do not is 8-8, not 7-9. Our host had Mongoose in the mention tag instead of Marmot and that’s what I used to build my lists:

Have Experience With:
G-Man
Kyle
LC
Mac
Made
Marmot
Tony
Wilgy

Stranger Danger:
Alison
Daisy
Falcon
Gavial
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
Tim

I’m going four and four now instead of five and three. I’d volunteer for the LB, but I don’t want to be in there if both Mac and Alison are as well. I’d rather separate them for a phase, as they both seem pretty talkative and I don’t want my eyes to glaze over trying to keep up with them when a critical decision is at stake.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm Scoring the thread to date gets me here:

Alison: xxxx+x
Daisy: xx+++
Falcon:
Gavial: x+
Hollowkat: xx++x
Moghedien: x+
Poison: x
Tim: +++++++++

G-Man:
Kylemii: xx
Long Con: x
Mac: x+
Made: +
Marmot: x+
Tony: x
Wilgy:

An x is bad and a + is good.

I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

I am man-crushing all over Tim like I used to for Sloonei. We are on the same wavelength. We have to unlearn our mafia games because this is barely mafia at this stage. If we try to approach it the same way, we’ll get rolled.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:32 pm Supper time is upon me and I don’t know if I will be around much after this. My votes:

[VOTE: Falcon
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
G-Man
Kylemii
Mac
Made] aubergine

These are G-Man's only mentions of Made Day 1. I'm a little confused by this, why did you vote for Kyle and Made, @G-Man and not someone like TSP who only had an x?

Sure enough, I gave that x & + thing a hard look again to see where everyone stood D1 in my mind. On Day 1, I liked Made’s indifference to the Big Loud Three drama. I like his nonchalance because he keeps his composure better than I can even though I want to embody that ‘cool, whatever’ style. I voted Made because I thought a cooler head in the LB would be good. Turns out I was right about sending him to the LB but for a very wrong reason.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:58 pm Marmot spends a fair amount of D1 in his whimsical ‘not taking this too seriously’ style but some of his responses are high on cheekiness quotient. He comes and goes, leaving stretches of time for the game to develop and then reacts to it upon his return. Of interesting note is that he pops back up in the last two hours and is fairly active throughout. Perhaps he was there to massage a few final votes for an 2-1 split. Made isn’t one to fear the LB, as he’s cool under pressure by default. Marmot isn’t one to get too worked up about a teammate getting sent down to the LB. He established enough sensible thought amidst his goofiness to be taken seriously. In other words, he’s flying just about an inch or two above the radar. That’s his comfort zone. In glossing through his ISO, he has a knack for showing up at just the right time to chime in when it’s advantageous. Kind of like what he did just now.

That's pretty off from how I played Day 1. It was Day 1 yes, so I was likely shitposting, but I endorsed my own demotion, as well as the demotion of a couple players who wanted to be in the LB, and the rest of players who were good options to yeet. That said, I couldn't explain to you why I didn't get the vote and a number of other players did. I don't know.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm

Spoiler: show

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:38 pm Slight correction to my earlier assessment- the split between those whom I have experience with and those whom I do not is 8-8, not 7-9. Our host had Mongoose in the mention tag instead of Marmot and that’s what I used to build my lists:

Have Experience With:
G-Man
Kyle
LC
Mac
Made
Marmot
Tony
Wilgy

Stranger Danger:
Alison
Daisy
Falcon
Gavial
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
Tim

I’m going four and four now instead of five and three. I’d volunteer for the LB, but I don’t want to be in there if both Mac and Alison are as well. I’d rather separate them for a phase, as they both seem pretty talkative and I don’t want my eyes to glaze over trying to keep up with them when a critical decision is at stake.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm Scoring the thread to date gets me here:

Alison: xxxx+x
Daisy: xx+++
Falcon:
Gavial: x+
Hollowkat: xx++x
Moghedien: x+
Poison: x
Tim: +++++++++

G-Man:
Kylemii: xx
Long Con: x
Mac: x+
Made: +
Marmot: x+
Tony: x
Wilgy:

An x is bad and a + is good.

I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

I am man-crushing all over Tim like I used to for Sloonei. We are on the same wavelength. We have to unlearn our mafia games because this is barely mafia at this stage. If we try to approach it the same way, we’ll get rolled.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:32 pm Supper time is upon me and I don’t know if I will be around much after this. My votes:

[VOTE: Falcon
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
G-Man
Kylemii
Mac
Made] aubergine

These are G-Man's only mentions of Made Day 1. I'm a little confused by this, why did you vote for Kyle and Made, @G-Man and not someone like TSP who only had an x?

Sure enough, I gave that x & + thing a hard look again to see where everyone stood D1 in my mind. On Day 1, I liked Made’s indifference to the Big Loud Three drama. I like his nonchalance because he keeps his composure better than I can even though I want to embody that ‘cool, whatever’ style. I voted Made because I thought a cooler head in the LB would be good. Turns out I was right about sending him to the LB but for a very wrong reason.

I've always imagined you being able to maintain a level head (as long as Golden isn't involved), have I been wrong about that?

G-Man hasn't done any x's and +'s yet, I want my money back.

My preferred order of yeeting after reading ISO-interactions are as follows

Mog - literally nothing but a vote from Mog, nothing from Made
TSP - never mentioned Made, Made did mention him in his legacy
G-Man - very little interaction with Made, but I feel better about G-Man's play this game than I do TSP's
Daisy - It doesn't take much to have interactions that look better than the above list, but Daisy's does.


That said, I realize that Mog and G-Man are at a disadvantage due to only having Day 1 to interact with Made, and there were 15 other players to deal with at that time.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:08 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm

Spoiler: show

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:38 pm Slight correction to my earlier assessment- the split between those whom I have experience with and those whom I do not is 8-8, not 7-9. Our host had Mongoose in the mention tag instead of Marmot and that’s what I used to build my lists:

Have Experience With:
G-Man
Kyle
LC
Mac
Made
Marmot
Tony
Wilgy

Stranger Danger:
Alison
Daisy
Falcon
Gavial
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
Tim

I’m going four and four now instead of five and three. I’d volunteer for the LB, but I don’t want to be in there if both Mac and Alison are as well. I’d rather separate them for a phase, as they both seem pretty talkative and I don’t want my eyes to glaze over trying to keep up with them when a critical decision is at stake.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm Scoring the thread to date gets me here:

Alison: xxxx+x
Daisy: xx+++
Falcon:
Gavial: x+
Hollowkat: xx++x
Moghedien: x+
Poison: x
Tim: +++++++++

G-Man:
Kylemii: xx
Long Con: x
Mac: x+
Made: +
Marmot: x+
Tony: x
Wilgy:

An x is bad and a + is good.

I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

I am man-crushing all over Tim like I used to for Sloonei. We are on the same wavelength. We have to unlearn our mafia games because this is barely mafia at this stage. If we try to approach it the same way, we’ll get rolled.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:32 pm Supper time is upon me and I don’t know if I will be around much after this. My votes:

[VOTE: Falcon
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
G-Man
Kylemii
Mac
Made] aubergine

These are G-Man's only mentions of Made Day 1. I'm a little confused by this, why did you vote for Kyle and Made, @G-Man and not someone like TSP who only had an x?

Sure enough, I gave that x & + thing a hard look again to see where everyone stood D1 in my mind. On Day 1, I liked Made’s indifference to the Big Loud Three drama. I like his nonchalance because he keeps his composure better than I can even though I want to embody that ‘cool, whatever’ style. I voted Made because I thought a cooler head in the LB would be good. Turns out I was right about sending him to the LB but for a very wrong reason.

I've always imagined you being able to maintain a level head (as long as Golden isn't involved), have I been wrong about that?

So far as you can see in the thread perhaps. Behind the scenes, I usually turn into a basket case and try not to waste my personal time creating five different spreadsheets for an internet game. It usually leaks through, like the vote thing did this game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:12 pm G-Man hasn't done any x's and +'s yet, I want my money back.

Sorry, not happening. Lunch break was devoted to just reading D1 and posting. I actually have a desk full of work to do today.

it's not a tunnel. I got here with my suspicions on mog in my own. I even talked it for awhile. it never was a tunnel.
.
.

like..


I had some legit concernaments and they never got addressed. I asked questions about mog and would notice things and peeps said 0.

even now clearly mog is reading around and trying but they ignored those past stuff. they act like I never said anything about them until now.


mog seems like the type of person if they randed town that they
would quickly address stuff even if they thought it was asinine. just to avoid later peeps being all wut the wut.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:53 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:08 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:52 pm

Spoiler: show

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:38 pm Slight correction to my earlier assessment- the split between those whom I have experience with and those whom I do not is 8-8, not 7-9. Our host had Mongoose in the mention tag instead of Marmot and that’s what I used to build my lists:

Have Experience With:
G-Man
Kyle
LC
Mac
Made
Marmot
Tony
Wilgy

Stranger Danger:
Alison
Daisy
Falcon
Gavial
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
Tim

I’m going four and four now instead of five and three. I’d volunteer for the LB, but I don’t want to be in there if both Mac and Alison are as well. I’d rather separate them for a phase, as they both seem pretty talkative and I don’t want my eyes to glaze over trying to keep up with them when a critical decision is at stake.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm Scoring the thread to date gets me here:

Alison: xxxx+x
Daisy: xx+++
Falcon:
Gavial: x+
Hollowkat: xx++x
Moghedien: x+
Poison: x
Tim: +++++++++

G-Man:
Kylemii: xx
Long Con: x
Mac: x+
Made: +
Marmot: x+
Tony: x
Wilgy:

An x is bad and a + is good.

I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

I am man-crushing all over Tim like I used to for Sloonei. We are on the same wavelength. We have to unlearn our mafia games because this is barely mafia at this stage. If we try to approach it the same way, we’ll get rolled.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:32 pm Supper time is upon me and I don’t know if I will be around much after this. My votes:

[VOTE: Falcon
Hollowkat
Moghedien
Poison
G-Man
Kylemii
Mac
Made] aubergine

These are G-Man's only mentions of Made Day 1. I'm a little confused by this, why did you vote for Kyle and Made, @G-Man and not someone like TSP who only had an x?

Sure enough, I gave that x & + thing a hard look again to see where everyone stood D1 in my mind. On Day 1, I liked Made’s indifference to the Big Loud Three drama. I like his nonchalance because he keeps his composure better than I can even though I want to embody that ‘cool, whatever’ style. I voted Made because I thought a cooler head in the LB would be good. Turns out I was right about sending him to the LB but for a very wrong reason.

I've always imagined you being able to maintain a level head (as long as Golden isn't involved), have I been wrong about that?

So far as you can see in the thread perhaps. Behind the scenes, I usually turn into a basket case and try not to waste my personal time creating five different spreadsheets for an internet game. It usually leaks through, like the vote thing did this game.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:12 pm G-Man hasn't done any x's and +'s yet, I want my money back.

Sorry, not happening. Lunch break was devoted to just reading D1 and posting. I actually have a desk full of work to do today.

ahh rip. I like the spreadsheets and stuff.

I think this is pretty cut and dry now tho. we yeet Mog and then Marmot.



on the chance mog flips town then imma cry so much because the game should not be this hard.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:08 am ok so i say we eliminate everyone who isn't here right now on the first two days and let them sort things out in the night time.

this was a game winner right here. nice work tsp, you did it. genius.

I feel like I should townread TSP for having 143 posts instead of 1430 posts

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:55 pm it's not a tunnel. I got here with my suspicions on mog in my own. I even talked it for awhile. it never was a tunnel.
.
.

like..


I had some legit concernaments and they never got addressed. I asked questions about mog and would notice things and peeps said 0.

even now clearly mog is reading around and trying but they ignored those past stuff. they act like I never said anything about them until now.


mog seems like the type of person if they randed town that they
would quickly address stuff even if they thought it was asinine. just to avoid later peeps being all wut the wut.

I agree with you on Mog, but I'm scared you're locking yourself into yeeting me next if he flips scum.

This is why I hate lylo.

Still at work. Sorry this day was a dud for my participation.

I can check in here and there. I have a timer set for every 15 minutes or so.

I’m still leaning toward Marmot today. What’s the rest of the room thinking for their votes?

This has definitely been one of the most frustrating games I've ever played just in terms of people ignoring me when I talk. Daisy, I said you were tunneling because you faulted me for defending Marmot, when in reality I wanted to lynch Marmot and TSP is the one who defended him. Clearly you didn't feel like that warranted a response. I wrote a chapter's worth of words about G-Man and Tim, but neither of them want to talk to me and neither Daisy nor Marmot seem to have even read anything I said. I'm not upset about potentially losing, I'm upset because it's LyLo and you all won't even play mafia with me. There hasn't been a case brought against me except for "Tim said so!" How in god's name did Tim, who was wrong about almost everything he said this came, become the final judgment on this game? Moreover, how can you, Daisy, say that I'm ignoring anything? There hasn't been anything brought against me. Rereading day one is fine, but there's plenty of things from the most recent phases that we also need to talk about, and I'm just getting stonewalled. I wish I had just AFKed this phase like some of you are, because almost nothing I write is even being read or considered.

Like, how do you look at TSP's progression today, combined with him not voting Made n1, and then lynch me over TSP?

I feel like lynching TSP is the one thing we should all be able to agree on, but nobody will even have that conversation with me.

Somebody has to vote first, so I’ll do it. Fingers crossed!

[VOTE: Moghedien] aubergine

I'm voting mog.

Seems I forgot to actually vote.

Moghedien wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:13 pm Like, how do you look at TSP's progression today, combined with him not voting Made n1, and then lynch me over TSP?

I feel like lynching TSP is the one thing we should all be able to agree on, but nobody will even have that conversation with me.

tsp is supposed to be town. I don't get it. i don't make the rules.

I just know im town. and peeps keep telling me not to vote tsp.

I'm fine voting Marmot. we don't need ties.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:51 pm Seems I forgot to actually vote.

idk why u r splitting things up. if you won't move to mog thrn I can vote Marmot. but dang bruh.

just vote Moghedien. why y'all gotta be stubborn

sick of this stress. fine. im voting Marmot.

Surprise twist- it’s Marmot & Tony and they’re hoping Moghedien doesn’t show up and vote so it ends in a tie they get to break.

@TonyStarkPrime just vote Marmot.

you too @Moghedien

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:58 pm Surprise twist- it’s Marmot & Tony and they’re hoping Moghedien doesn’t show up and vote so it ends in a tie they get to break.

I try so hard. I want answers.

Tony not voting.. it was him all along

Votes are hammered on Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:00 pm Tony not voting.. it was him all along

I’ve been trying to tell you this, lol.

Shoot- I just looked at the poll closer- we had another 24 hours on this day!

Shucky darn I think we just lost.

Sort of annoying to be given 48 hours on this phase after a string of 24-hour phases. Not going to lie. But I didn’t read closely enough. Serves me right.

@Marmot has died and flips...mafia!

Night is closed, and tomorrow will be 24 hours long

@DaisyCloud
@G-Man
@Moghedien
@TonyStarkPrime

@G-Man dies and flips town

Today will end May 2, 9pm EDT, to account for the late day start. Hammer is at 2 votes. You have one vote apiece. This is f3.

@DaisyCloud
@Moghedien
@TonyStarkPrime

we need to talk about how 48 deadlines work. Regardless, I think this ones pretty clear

I was worried someone not named G-Man would die

I didn't realize we had 48hrs.

@TonyStarkPrime so u aren't town? what r u doing

Que

are you kidding me

I'm just gonna post the thing I thought through over night unless you have anything to say in advance

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:03 pm I'm just gonna post the thing I thought through over night unless you have anything to say in advance

I'm town i just wanna win.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:03 pm I'm just gonna post the thing I thought through over night unless you have anything to say in advance

just say it

just say it

just say it

Anyways, against all reason and all F3 guidelines, I'm just gonna go ahead and follow the plan and vote for Mog now. I think her conduct yesterday was /very/ outing and I'd like to believe that if Daisy were a wolf, she'd know how many hours were in a day. If you are, Daisy, this has been an incredibly impressive performance and blah blah blah good game. You can take the win early. But me and Kyle called it on night 3.

im actually slightly worried cause now it looks like daisy is waiting for me to vote so she can win

so I'm not going to vote

but I'm going to signal my strong intention to vote for mog

also i just accidentally voted for myself and I think daisy saw it and didn't hammer so that's a point in her favor :P