Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Made received a busdriver I believvetutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 am what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?
made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)
he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him
Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy
so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier
that was tedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:31 amMade received a busdriver I believvetutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 am what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?
made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)
he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him
Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy
so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier
Wiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
No, I'm pretty sure he received one. I specifically remember having an interaction that he received some sort of redirectiontutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amthat was tedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:31 amMade received a busdriver I believvetutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 am what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?
made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)
he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him
Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy
so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier
Not if you can redirect yourself with another person. I think Ted was able to redirect himself as welltutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 am if i go with the line of thought that mafia has a redirector i wont insist so much that people lock me as town due to kyle's peek then, i still think that u should because he shot tim on the same night he peeked me, so if he was redirected away from me wouldnt that also mess with his target nanook? but yea
I will think after work, i would like toJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:03 am @Michelle + @hollowkatt - why are you voting for Syn?
Can give a tim a pass as it's self-preservation
We know dizzy's role exists because of wilgyMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
LC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martinMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
it was ted who received the busdriverJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:34 amNo, I'm pretty sure he received one. I specifically remember having an interaction that he received some sort of redirectiontutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amthat was tedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:31 amMade received a busdriver I believvetutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 am what power did alison give to made again? why is made saying that alison gave him the power to curse someone to talk funny?
made was cursed to talk funny. roleplaying Otis from the barn yard (i googled it, its a cow)
he tried to target Kyle but his action got reflected back to him
Wilgy also trie to target Michelle but action ended up being reflected to Dizzy
so mafia still does have a redirector? what were the theories with the redirector earlier
right. mind control. made did have a redirector powerdunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:10 amDay 8...intermission
You may not be able to see yourself dead in your dreams...
but you sure can see others dying.
When a hero sacrifices themselves for the greater good,
is it always in the best interest?
Dodo needs to keep sleeping and keep dreaming to find out.
Made has not made it out alive.
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It is still Day 8. Made has been removed from the poll. Please vote elsewhere.
I gave him the power to restrict people's posts
I don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 amLC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martinMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill
im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?
remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it
no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant
so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed
its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
But dizzy claimed the role BEFORE wilgy's resultMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 amI don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 amLC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martinMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill
im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?
remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it
no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant
so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed
its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.
Dizzy claimed after Nutella switched with Jack, so in day 4Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:25 amBut dizzy claimed the role BEFORE wilgy's resultMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 amI don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 amLC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martinMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill
im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?
remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it
no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant
so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed
its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.
Yeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted tedMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:27 amDizzy claimed after Nutella switched with Jack, so in day 4Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:25 amBut dizzy claimed the role BEFORE wilgy's resultMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 amI don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 amLC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martinMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill
im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?
remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it
no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant
so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed
its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.
Doesn't matter, is not a normal role anyway, maybe doesn't exist at all and Dizzy claimed the visit to Nutella in the idea of a tracker who could see him visiting, inventing a role.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:27 am Also, nobody has counterclaimed dizzy from having that role
No, youre mixing things up. "The thing that could have the result of a failed roleblock could be a strongman kill" - yes in theory. But it has nothing to do with our case, because nutella was the one getting roleblocked, not dizzyMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:23 amI don't doubt Dizzy targeted Nutella, but I doubt now it was protection. I don't see how protection would nullify a roleblock, and a thing that could have the result of failed roleblock on n3 could be a strongman kill.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 amLC saw that ted tageted himself, you and martinMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 amWiggly role copped me and i was targeted by Ted if we consider LCs tracker claim, that means what Wiggly received is mafia doing shenanigans.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:20 am @Hyena are u still voting Dizzy? how? wilgy rolecopped dizzy and confirmed dizzy as 1-shot protector that protects from all bad stuff. martin also semi-confirmed dizzy because he tried to jailkeep nutella on the same night dizzy targeted her, and martin was told that the roleblock portion of his role didn't work - ergo dizzy prevented nutella from getting roleblocked
we have 2 separate mech sources that prove that Dizzy is a 1-shot protector role, and 1 mech source that prove that dizzy protected nutella on n3
why are u still voting him, what are you doing?
What if Dizzy targeted Nutella with a strongmam NK and after he saw the night results he came up with that role?
Wilgy said he will role cop me, this story of Dizzy confirmed is not right after all.
martin died on that night, so martin was the victim of the factional kill
im not sure if anyone received a ted song on that night. but i think that we can assume that ted busdrove himself with you?
remember that martin claimed that he received feedback from the hosts on night 3 when he targeted nutella telling him that the negative part of his role (the roleblocking) didnt work, only that part. he was expplicitly told about it
no one else have claimed i believe to interact / protectnutella on that night. tony didnt. dizzy is the only claimant
so i believe we have confirmation that some dizzy targeted nutella on n3 and protected nutella from getting roleblocked, i believe this is confirmed
its not a 100% town peek on dizzy i guess u can argue that but i believe its confirmed that dizzy protected nutella from getting roleblocked by martin n3 (even if there are mafia shenanigans i dont see a way in which this isnt confirmed)
Idk why you don't consider this part of my idea when you answer me, because that would explain some things
Mafia would kill Nutella but she make that move of switching herself with Jack, and all that Dizzy if he is mafia could do was to invent a role to match the result, in a way that could be accepted by everyone.
I don't know if this is true but we shouls check how that claim was posted and when
Nothing explains why Wilgy received Dizzy's role, except mafia imposed a result to be expressed itt to verify a role that may not exist.
That was later in the game. Now we know Wilgy as villager would not invent the result, but at contrary, would post what he receivedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 amYeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted tedSpoiler: show
The theory that mafia has a framer esque role that implanted a manufactured feedback result for wilgy that dizzy the mafia had full control over and then dizzy the mafia claiming that manufactured feedback result as a role seems like a very far fetched theory and seems less likely than dizzy being town and mafia having some kind of redirecting powersMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 amThat was later in the game. Now we know Wilgy as villager would not invent the result, but at contrary, would post what he receivedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 amYeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted tedSpoiler: show
Why received Wilgy, instead of my role, and after i was visited by Ted, a role claimed by someone who wasn't targeted that night ?
Isn't this convenient to confirm that the role is in the game?
Let's see:tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:33 amNo, youre mixing things up. "The thing that could have the result of a failed roleblock could be a strongman kill" - yes in theory. But it has nothing to do with our case, because nutella was the one getting roleblocked, not dizzySpoiler: show
We know nutella died by her own role, she claimed it after her death using hyenas role
In radiohead mafia there was a town role that protected a target from all disruptive effects including getting roleblocked, i acknowledge that you think that such a role is weird but i dont think its weird, i have seen it before, wilgy also confirmed it
Even if dizzy is a mafia strongman killer, he also proteted nutella from getting roleblocked n3
Even if the framer role is a thing, it would still require redirection fuckerytutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:37 amThe theory that mafia has a framer esque role that implanted a manufactured feedback result for wilgy that dizzy the mafia had full control over and then dizzy the mafia claiming that manufactured feedback result as a role seems like a very far fetched theory and seems less likely than dizzy being town and mafia having some kind of redirecting powersMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 amThat was later in the game. Now we know Wilgy as villager would not invent the result, but at contrary, would post what he receivedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 amYeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted tedSpoiler: show
Why received Wilgy, instead of my role, and after i was visited by Ted, a role claimed by someone who wasn't targeted that night ?
Isn't this convenient to confirm that the role is in the game?
Lets find the logic of redirections, if Ted targeted Martin, me and himself, then someone targeted Wilgy to receive Dizzy's claimed role? Is this possible? Why exactly Dizzy's?tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:37 amThe theory that mafia has a framer esque role that implanted a manufactured feedback result for wilgy that dizzy the mafia had full control over and then dizzy the mafia claiming that manufactured feedback result as a role seems like a very far fetched theory and seems less likely than dizzy being town and mafia having some kind of redirecting powersMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 amThat was later in the game. Now we know Wilgy as villager would not invent the result, but at contrary, would post what he receivedJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:29 amYeah, and wilgy revealed his result on the day we yeeted tedSpoiler: show
Why received Wilgy, instead of my role, and after i was visited by Ted, a role claimed by someone who wasn't targeted that night ?
Isn't this convenient to confirm that the role is in the game?
can we imagine the order fot that night?tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:45 am We dont know what the order of operations is unfortunately, some of the syndicate admins are working on setting some kind of standards for future games but its not here yet
Martin (if memory serves) claimed that he was told that only the roleblocking part of his role didnt work on nutella. He wasnt told that his protective part on nutella didnt work.
If his entire action fizzles because the nutella slot was empty, i think he would have gotten the result that his entire action didnt work, and he wouldnt reveive elaboration thay only the "negative"(by his own words) part of his role didnt work
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