The Syndicate

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:13 am Like I might be trolling but I think a Long Con kill is highly unrealistic and like Rondo, think it points to other things.

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:24 am Robyn. You can literally read the setup and think of the wackiest thing that could be happen or could be true.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:26 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:24 am Robyn. You can literally read the setup and think of the wackiest thing that could be happen or could be true.

but like, why does jjj hide behind long con after he baits a nk

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:13 am Like I might be trolling but I think a Long Con kill is highly unrealistic and like Rondo, think it points to other things.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:22 pm Rupert Mannion - He is the former owner of AFC Richmond and ex-husband of Rebecca. He is known for using his wealth to get what he wants. Each night he’s alive he gains £1. 5 million. The store is only open at night.
- £1 million - kill
- £2.5 million elim save
- £500k protect
- £500k investigate to find out role (3 available)

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:31 am Did abigail dip? Unfortunate.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:34 am abbie is a player i can't read, so when i just randed wolf against her i watched her like a hawk, and she doesn't feel invested here, reads or time wise

and she doesn't even like wolfing

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:44 am I’m here if anybody needs me. No worries though.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:46 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:44 am I’m here if anybody needs me. No worries though.

thoughts on abbie?

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 am @Cape90 I think we’re kinda close? Ish? Talk to me.

what do you want from daddy?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:46 am

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:46 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:44 am I’m here if anybody needs me. No worries though.

thoughts on abbie?

Recent posts inspired nothing in me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 am Exercise for everyone:

If you have ever seen me as mafia even once, how likely are you to ever make this read on me when you are town:

“ J3, as well. Way too much work to go into that much detail, for it to be fake. Also, mafia often posts less than civs--because it's harder to know what to say. And also (and maybe mores) because they are spending time chatting in BTSC, and can engage in the game without posting.”

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:13 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 am

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 am @Cape90 I think we’re kinda close? Ish? Talk to me.

what do you want from daddy?

Who’s daddy? If you’re referring to yourself, perhaps a cogent town case for LoRab.

referring to cape, i'll refer to me as mommy

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 am I look forward to proving my theory. I can feel myself turning into a fireball. After my long slumber, I am awakened.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:12 am I'm bored

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:52 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:30 am Anyways, I think DrWigly is town for the way he handled EOD yesterday

@DrWilgy Can I ask why you scumread robyn? They are probably my top townread right now

Robyn is aware enough to point out that I've observed the dichotomy between them and Bereft. Energy level is not what I associate with T Robyn. Movement on poll is very forceful.

If they get a pelt doing as they do, fine, but until they flip someone, or flip themselves, it's hard to not observe such a heavy hand with interactions as such with Bereft and not see it as knowing.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:47 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:46 am

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:46 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:44 am I’m here if anybody needs me. No worries though.

thoughts on abbie?

Recent posts inspired nothing in me.

i mean, moved you neither up nor down?

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:05 am the dichotomy between me and bereft is old news, currently the relationship between me and cape is far more important and relevant

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:50 am I'm... confused

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:04 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:51 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:10 pm If I was: Who I targeted Last night:
Ted Lasso - Protector ☆Princess Abigail☆‬

Coach Beard - Check Alignment ‪JaggedJimmyJay‬

Rebecca Walton - Money Siphon ‪Cape90‬

Roy Kent - BTS Mason ‪Bereft‬

Keeley Jones - BTS Mason ‪S~V~S‬

Jamie Tartt - Body Guard ‪DrWilgy‬

Leslie Higgins - Whisperer ‪DarlingMonroe‬

Trent Crimm - Host Post Dont kill Rondo

Sam Obisanya - Blocker ‪ Thunal33‬

Isaac Macadoo - Forced Sherrif ‪Scotty‬

Colin Hughes - Hidden IC ‪ts account‬

Dani Rojas - Town Kill
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Rupert Mannion - Money Bags ‪Long Con‬ Kill + Investigate

Nathan Shelley - Fake Green

Trio of fans - Tripplet ‪Michelle‬ Curse

Edwin Akufo - Sam Bully ‪ robyn‬

Are you pocketing me?


Cause it's working!!

I also love how no other town has picked it up and run with it. Especially JJJ. I think its +EV for town to share this information no?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:14 pm @Thunal33 what is your impression of my proposed solve?

[S~V~S, LoRab, Michelle, ts account] ||| {Scotty, Thunal}

I'd take out Michelle and replace her with Rondo, and replace me with Abigail.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:48 pm fwiw I have a bit of paranoia about Abi since when we've played as t/t I've found her solid town by now. When you take out her pushing Jay I feel like she hasn't done some of the trademarks I've seen from town Abi. Like she seemed less invested in the chop than I've seen her be before. I'd expect her to take a stronger stance on not killing a 0 poster.

Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:53 pm Frankly, I don't know why everyone decided that Neon pushing J³ was such a good look, her later posts were much better.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:00 pm Bereft town
Cape town
robyn town
Rondo town
DM town
Wilgy town

Does anyone strongly disagree with any of the above (that hasn’t recently made themselves clear)?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:45 pm When I played with Abi as t/t she had extremely strong stances on who not to chop. She was willing to fight me and others when we voted her townreads and was extremely confident. The difference is bigger than I thought when I looked at her meta.

From another game:

Spoiler: show

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:25 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:22 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:20 pm I also think now is not the time to tinfoil Abi and she's said some borderline clearing things during her fight with leetic.

At least someone gets it

Honestly you should kill me today though

No. Rn I want to kill Wilgy today.

Mmm yikes. Wilgy is like a really bad kill here.

They haven't been playing wolfy their play makes no sense from a wolf perspective the only reason they are PoEd is cause they are slanky and barely there but is that really wolfy? The way they are slanking is just town who can't be assed

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:05 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:21 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:48 pm Cook the goose!

Boil the duck!

Pepper the chicken!

Nice wagon you're joining. What will you do when I flip town?

Probably cry a little.

Maybe eat dinner. EoD is around that time.

Then look at your reads and see if they take me somewhere.

Oh also figure out who started the wagon on you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:21 pm Jack is the first person to defend me from a fake red check. I don't know if I should be happy or concerned

Oh.

Okie dokie. Let's yeet Jack

[VOTE: Jackoftarts] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:45 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:21 pm Jack is the first person to defend me from a fake red check. I don't know if I should be happy or concerned

Oh.

Okie dokie. Let's yeet Jack

[VOTE: Jackoftarts] aubergine

I'll join you, better wagon than the current biggest one [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Hell yeah, let's goooooo

If Jack is town, which I'm leaning that he is, this jump on looks terrible. Wilgy also took some time to say what would happen if leetic flipped town in response to their question isntead of something like "well you were red checked". He knew about the check, but if he didn't catch up a lot why would he know there was a real chance leetic would flip town?

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Pretty sure he was around when I claimed. Also I don't see how this is a jump on when Wilgy voted the wagon first?

Wilgy parking there all phase just doesn't feel wolfy this isn't a wolf play this is town Wilgy not giving a fuck

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:11 am I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

For context, the first two posts were when I was the only one strongly sussing Wilgy.

Compare that with how she treated SVS this game. Abi townread SVS but it felt limp and she didn't do anything to justify that except one post calling Scotty/SVS t/t. SVS caught a lot of heat but she didn't jump to her defense or show she actually cared about that read.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:06 pm working my way, on page 26 rn + writing a reply with multiple quotes

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:59 am This is probably best not done. Innocent mistake, but not exactly rules-kosher.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:27 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:59 am This is probably best not done. Innocent mistake, but not exactly rules-kosher.

Its rules kosher

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:19 pm Why is DrWilgy town?

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

Wilgy arrived to the game late after the thread had ballooned quite a bit. For him to open his solving in this manner is very Wilgy-appropriate. Instead of either saying nothing relevant or spamming out considerable "false solving" content as he sometimes does as mafia, he fell in the right midpoint.

He pointed to the immediately visible wagon: Scotty - 3 (Bereft, Cape90, Jay), and he made a read on the basis of that poll. It was the data he could operate with without needing to be caught up, and it's exactly the kind of read that Wilgy thrives on (whether he is right or wrong).

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:20 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:32 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

I dunno, but I’m gonna be pissed if I get D1’d again by a bad Jay only for town to lose to him in endgame.

Understandable.

No thoughts on your voters while responding to this inquiry feels weird.

When Scotty replied in a reads-neutral manner, Wilgy was cordial in receiving that reply but also remained severe in keeping Scotty on his toes. Wilgy has an eye for communicative weaseling, and I like that he is playing that way here.

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:14 pm as it stands from my gleaning afew pages.

Could vote Bereft, Scotty, Robyn.

Gonna start skimming ISOs.

After a few pages of getting context, Wilgy arrives at these three suspects. Two were involved in the prior Scotty wagon dynamic (Scotty and Bereft), and one is glued at the hip to Bereft (robyn). This makes perfect Wilgyan sense.

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:23 pm Michelle is, underwhelming, but I can at least see where t Michelle sees Robyns inquiry towards J as weird.

I wouldn't yeet.

One could accuse Wilgy of being too easy on Michelle here, but his conduct today is a nice counter to that. He also voted Michelle on Day 1 in the end based on his preference against getting the zero poster. Wilgy is a data-driven player (and votes/flips are his most important resources), so I completely believe his opposition to killing Seanzie.

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:37 am Gross.

2 of our dead as no voters feels like a personal offense to me.

Case in point. [though, while the Seanzie and Long Con deaths may not be great for data collection, it's at least preferable to have town who place votes alive right now]

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:48 am Just skimmed the Longest Congest and Scotty unlikely made this kill while at the same time receiving this curse. So that's neat.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:36 pm Also [VOTE: SVS] aubergine.

In reading through LC, I find Scotty to be just town, and now kinda get the SVS wagon. Also skimmed SVS's ISO and they seem to be in range.

Great nuance. Wilgy goat.

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I town read Wilgy on gut, and this review converts gut to data. He is a strong town read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:28 pm
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The operative term here is purity. I know that idea makes some people uneasy, but the good news is that this isn't the typical "uwu :3 :3" kind of purity that anyone can fake. It's purity of solving process.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:28 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:27 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:59 am This is probably best not done. Innocent mistake, but not exactly rules-kosher.

Its rules kosher

Did you verify with the powers that be?

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:33 am oh if it's kosher

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:44 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:41 pm feels like i have been gone forever

what's going on, i have to somewhat dip out soon but i will do a lil bit either real time or catching up

sorry if i become frozen and dont respond to every single message rondo throws at me

What is your immediate reaction to the following solve?

Michelle, S~V~S, LoRab, and ts account as the team of four

Scotty and Abigail as the first alternates

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:44 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:41 pm feels like i have been gone forever

what's going on, i have to somewhat dip out soon but i will do a lil bit either real time or catching up

sorry if i become frozen and dont respond to every single message rondo throws at me

What is your immediate reaction to the following solve?

Michelle, S~V~S, LoRab, and ts account as the team of four

Scotty and Abigail as the first alternates

I think that's a good solve, I think Abby is hitting her town notes, but i have misread her before, but I do highly think her push on me day 1 was in good faith as backwards as that sounds