The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:03 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:14 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:10 am There's a real possibility boom could be Marcus, but it's not definite. However, more relevantly, inh sprit and quin all appearcleared.

How?

Of being Marcus, not of being anything bad.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:30 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:46 pm hi everyone what up

also i pick unicorn
unicorns are gay
i'm gay
therefore
unicorns win
QED

I think unicorn comes in second for me. What makes you say unicorns are gay?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:36 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:34 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:23 am LOL. That makes so much more sense now. Why do you suspect him?

Here's why:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:19 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:19 pm As long as we keep up with the thread, the unchangeable votes shouldn't be a problem. If you need to take notes as to who is suspecting who throughout the day, then do so. I don't think we need to assifn a specific emoji to that. What if I want to use that emoji for fun?

It might help for searching the thread to check vote patterns. It just might be good to come up with a way to do that.

The hedging language here (might, just might) tells me he isn't really invested in his own idea. If TonyStarkPrime were serious about finding a useful way to track votes in the thread, he wouldn't suggest one idea, get thwarted by Eloh, and then just say "It just might be good to come up with a way to do that." He is talking about how to track something that doesn't matter, since even when votes can be changed, it isn't like we can see who voted for whom when.

"But Epi, you don't know TonyStarkPrime! What if this is how he normally is?"

Spoiler: show

I don't care.

"But Epi, didn't he die Day 1 in Pokemon? Wouldn't it be cruel to lynch him Day 1 here?"

Spoiler: show

See above.

Ooh. Forgot about how the polls worked. (In case my language gets misconstrued again, forgot here means "I neglected to consider") Back on my home site we do the whole "vote in bold in-post" thing, so I typically play with a pretty trackable record and that influences how I play. Even here it would be easier to check in on the thread, look at votes, and have an idea where we stand, and if I recall correctly from Mass Effect, we would mark votes with orange so we would have that record. I assume that is more or less a standard thing.

I don't quite understand the whole hedging thing. I had an idea, someone said "I don't like that idea" and then I said "well maybe there is another way". Which to me would suggest that I'm still invested in the general idea. The word "might" is more of a "I'm not going to force an idea through if people don't want it" than a "well, I don't really care about what I'm saying".

I actually like this response to Epi. I think if someone grasps onto this "reason" for why Tony may be mafia, they should be looked at more closely as maybe being mafia themselves.
@jack - do you really believe epi believes his theory or donyou think he made it up to see who would latch onto it? I'm thinking the latter.

In reply to Tony. Why doesn't my suggestion work?
Read thread. Take notes on who voted for whom or who suggested voting for whom at what time. Read over notes before voting.
This seems like a fine solution and you don't have to scroll through the thread over and over.


Lorab, who is FEB based on?

I'm going to post this and keep reading. I know his annoys some. Don't like my style, oh well.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:34 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:47 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:41 pm I don't even know what the smiley you used for me means, lol.

It means you have a decent amount of content and none of it makes me think you're town. Which makes me uneasy.

But for D1, my reads are all as ill-defined as that, so the smilies sum them up pretty good.

I may be being picky in this but I have to vote and it has to go on someone. I don't like the whole smiley chart that chuck laid out for us. Above you see his explanation to Lorab about her specific smiley. But why not just say that in the post. It's day 1. Why not get real. Day 0 is behind us and we are supposed to get a little more serious now. If he were civ, I think he would have given a small description as well so we knew exactly how he felt. Instead he remained vague with smiles. Sorry chuck, but at this moment, I think there is a better possibility of you being bad this game than any other player. I must vote. And you're it.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:12 pm Dom. I don't like this back and forth you're having with golden. I think golden is civ, and even though this may be civ on civ, I don't think it is. You seem to be tunneling. Yes, you recently started engaging with others, but I think it's only to try to save yourself/make yourself look better. The interactions don't seem very genuine. Golden, on the other hand, has not only been taking part in the back and forth with you, but has also been playing what looks like a genuine and meaningful game, engaging in other conversations. It seems as though you may feel stuck in hole and you're only focused on climbing out of that hole. I've been in that position before as a baddie and know what it's like. I just cannot decide if I ought to vote you or take a chance that Tony may be marcus. It would be great to get any baddie today, but awesome to get the +2 vote guy.

With that in mind... what's the general thoughts on tony being marcus? It was mentioned and talked about a little bit earlier today but I haven't heard a general consensus. I don't stay up late like many of you and I need to vote soon. I'd love some feedback on my thoughts.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:28 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:11 pm lynch me
i don't want to play if this is how we play now.

watch out for timmer never actually catching up. that's classic baddie timmer.
When I come up civ, remember how wrong Golden was. Remember how I was told repeatedly that I had written nothing when I wrote many posts giving well thought out reasons for him being bad

Watch out for INH hiding behind being *quirky*

Watch out Elo pretending she can't read my posts.

WTF Dom, give a lady time to respond. I may be in the kitchen vacuuming up pepper that my 5 year old spilt all over the floor when reaching for a banana. Seriously. It just happened.

Thank you sprit for your response. I've made up my mind.

dom

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:08 pm There's also the possibility Marcus is already dead and it's a play my Kevin. But I with the ties we've been having it's hard to not consider if it's in play

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:10 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:06 pm Holy shit.

First time for everything. I think Lorab is...

...

Spoiler: show

good.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:44 pm This is a defense of Tony.

TonyStarkPrime

The Man in the Tan Jacket

LET ME POST

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:19 pm Those in both BV AND ROTTK who haven't been cursed this game and who are still alive: INH, Wilgy, and timmer. So...
Eggs are yummy,
With spinach and cheese.
Today I'll be voting
One of these.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:26 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:40 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:33 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:58 pm You can double check my stats, wilgy.

If you look at the lists I posted above, I already did that.
You missed Epi. To be fair, INH had missed him first, and I assume you were basing off his list.

Also, what do you think about Jack's thought that there could be 2 different players on the team who were each in one of the games?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:22 pm Is it really not conceivable to anyone other myself that someone who wasn't directly linked to one of those games either read the thread or was aware of the gimmicks from both games?

I mean, come on. The people insisting that it HAS to be someone who played both games are more than a little suspicious to me right now.

Think of it like this: Rico's curse on D2 attracted a crazy amount of heat for people involved with Blue Velvet. By intentionally choosing to do the same thing with Dom and Rot3k, they're essentially designing a Venn Diagram of people they want us to look at.

Odds are seeming higher and higher to me that the Faceless Old Woman was involved with one at most of these games, and researched gimmicks players used in games she wasn't in to mislead the town and cause mislynches.

There are two possible motives FOW has for cursing people with old-game-specific posting restrictions: Sheer fuckery, or to mislead the town.

I believe it to be the latter.

It seems unlikely, to me, that someone following a game and not playing would know that 2 different self-imposed posts were a thing in 2 different games. I get what you're saying, but I think that it's likely that there are people on that team who were in both games. It's not just that they were both posting restrictions from old games--they were both self imposed restrictions.

I think you're trying to steer us away from those people, which isn't making me feel very good about you.

On the flip, I think you are trying to steer us toward those people, which isn't making me feel very good about you.

Yes, I missed epi because I was following INH's list. So he is now added to the list I wrote earlier: Epi, INH, timmer, and Wilgy. The reaction INH is having here to lorab is off-putting. Isn't it the point of the game to try and find the baddies, make a good case for them, and then try to get others to follow you in lynching who you think is bad? That's all I think lorab is doing here. And she is right that you are trying to steer us clear of the people I just mentioned. I really think out of the four, timmer ia probably not the curser. He's barely been here. I also don't think it's likely that epi is. I don't think he would incriminate himself like that. Wilgy...maybe. You...maybe. I can see either of you doing something like this, but wilgy's reaction to all this talk compared to your reaction screams at you being it.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:59 pm Do you think it likely that Elo would call out both of her teammates? I remember that standing out to me at the time as odd, since timmer hadn't actually been around to make some of the calls.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:02 pm I agree with you about timmer, I'm thinking about it in the context of INH being less likely to be the third.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:43 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:34 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:47 pm It means you have a decent amount of content and none of it makes me think you're town. Which makes me uneasy.
But for D1, my reads are all as ill-defined as that, so the smilies sum them up pretty good.

I may be being picky in this but I have to vote and it has to go on someone. I don't like the whole smiley chart that chuck laid out for us. Above you see his explanation to Lorab about her specific smiley. But why not just say that in the post. It's day 1. Why not get real. Day 0 is behind us and we are supposed to get a little more serious now. If he were civ, I think he would have given a small description as well so we knew exactly how he felt. Instead he remained vague with smiles. Sorry chuck, but at this moment, I think there is a better possibility of you being bad this game than any other player. I must vote. And you're it.

Do you see the inconsistency here? I mean, I obviously disagree with your vote, and your reasoning, but even in your very post, you say numerous times:
"I have to be picky and vote even though there's not much to go on. I gotta pick somebody."
And then you say "Why not get serious?"

That's why I'm not getting all that serious. For the same reason that you keep excusing yourself.

And I'm not sure what the scum motive would be to post a smiley list. Vague-ness is something I'm more prone to do as town anyway.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:56 pm Eh, this is crap. People are spending more time defending the lynch targets than the accusers spent justifying them, and yet those defenders aren't suggesting other targets. Crap. Crap I say. Time-wasting crap.

Votes aren't changeable. If you want to change the mind of a voter, do it tomorrow. Now is the time to find a target and argue FOR it, not against it.

As for the targets that already exist, I don't want to vote Dom. Or Golden. I don't think they're scum. Sprit I'm ambivalent on, though I like the guy and don't want to mislynch him early. OMGUS isn't an option. I think of Eloh as town, barring some crazy metaread.

Gimme a minute

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:28 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that.

Me, that was me. I did that.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:59 pm Go chuck.... I change my mind about you.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:31 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:46 pm Oh. Rico, are you saying that INH and Nutella are w/w, and that Golden is opposite team wolf?

Because that's honestly what I got from that, and it's pretty disappointing

linkis oh god:
@golden Cool. Hard for me to evaluate a metaread, but I don't see Jack as being strongly tied to anyone.
@Eloh because I didn't want someone to vote Jack for crazy non-stated reasons on d1

But why not? What is so special about jack? No offense, jack.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:08 pmWho came up with the idea for the Poppy and Trump curses? I don't believe it was either one of them.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:12 pm Sprityo and speedchuck are both viable candidates.

insertnamehere

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:27 pm Golden, as a hypothetical before day starts, what does me flipping town, or being town I should say if I die tonight, entail? What does it show towards anyone else?

I ask the same question to Dom and Rico

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:27 pm Golden, as a hypothetical before day starts, what does me flipping town, or being town I should say if I die tonight, entail? What does it show towards anyone else?

I ask the same question to Dom and Rico

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:34 pm Ricohet...

this is super important...

...what do you think of...

....America...

...by...

...Yes?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:35 pm Anyone got any opinions on speedchuck as a politician? Possible?

StrexCorp (3)

Boomslang

Dom

Epignosis

speedchuck

Politicians (3)

insertnamehere

speedchuck

sprityo

Golden

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:43 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:35 pm Anyone got any opinions on speedchuck as a politician? Possible?

Not on my radar.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:27 pm Golden, as a hypothetical before day starts, what does me flipping town, or being town I should say if I die tonight, entail? What does it show towards anyone else?

I ask the same question to Dom and Rico

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:49 pm Does anyone have a reason that I should remove any of them?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:01 pm Is there any reason to presume any of those on my list are not Marcus? Doms choice to miss the lynch could have been tactical eg. Part of my choice to create a tie was around potential exposure of Marcus.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:43 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:35 pm Anyone got any opinions on speedchuck as a politician? Possible?

Not on my radar.

Well, what do you think of those posts I quoted. I'm deliberately setting out to put speedchuck on the radar and get opinions. He hasn't been on my radar either, but I'd rather rule him out or in than just continue to put him to the side.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:52 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:43 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:35 pm Anyone got any opinions on speedchuck as a politician? Possible?

Not on my radar.

Well, what do you think of those posts I quoted. I'm deliberately setting out to put speedchuck on the radar and get opinions. He hasn't been on my radar either, but I'd rather rule him out or in than just continue to put him to the side.

I didn't read the posts you quoted.

speedchuck isn't on my radar.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:04 pm so day should start soon right? let me see if i can....

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:58 pm I have to say Speedchuck has been....different this game.

He doesn't compare to even his plays in Phenon where he was independent. And I know he's a fully capable player.