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The lack of barbed insult is a scumtellEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:53 pmI've said why.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:25 pm @Kylemii @Epignosis @Made Why are y'all on Falcon? Like I really really don't think he's a hit.
Why am I wrong?
Bullshit detector reads 5 alarm fireEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:09 pmNo. I specifically said "if your discussion..."hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:04 pmwolfy probablyLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:02 pmThe mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:58 pm Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.
If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?
LC claims his discussion with Made helped him form an opinion on Made. Therefore what I said didn't apply to him.
I'm tired of reading post after post about mana this and mana that when I'm trying to destroy evildoers.
Only mafia talk like thisEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:13 pmMore so that ted's frustration sounds genuine in that he feels he's getting needlessly shat on early on when by his own admission he doesn't really get cooking until a little later.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:08 pmFor the same reason?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:06 pmI have reflected on falcon's posts.Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:54 pmmostly people having minor problems with some of his reads when not paying attention to everything else he's doing that is townyEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:51 pmWhat are some of these worst reasons?Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:18 pm falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons
Most of his opinions are dubious and shoddy. The logic in his posts is a stretch. Many of the posts are aggressive reactions that have little follow up. I mean no offense- that's my assessment.
Yet does any of that matter? No. The question I have to ask myself is, "Does Falcon really believe this stuff?"
And you know what? A part of me believes he does. That's enough to move on elsewhere, and besides that, the fact that Falcon clearly does not have a lid or a filter (in the sense that he's spitting out whatever comes to mind in the moment) makes Falcon a piss poor Day 1 vote at this stage.
I would argue ted is a bad Day 1 vote too.
I would not call ted a civilian at this stage, but I would call him a bad Day 1 lynch. I won't be voting there myself.
Epi has made a tactical decision to defend Dunya from day 1 for no particularly obvious reason. Dunya hasn't been anywhere near as towny here as she is capable of. Epi has an agenda.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:43 pmWhy is dunya there, and why do you only have three names calling it "too easy?"hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:37 pm it can't be as easy as Ted/Dunya/Wiggles tho, can it? Like that's just too easy
He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:00 pm I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice
No, you're a wolf b/c you're not doing the thing you said you'd do if we didn't chop you D1.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:43 pmso i'm a wolf because i am not playing like you would as a town in this situationhollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.
No I haven't read JPIC yet.
I'm more than comfortable with an Epi lynch.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:04 pmNo, you're a wolf b/c you're not doing the thing you said you'd do if we didn't chop you D1.tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:43 pmso i'm a wolf because i am not playing like you would as a town in this situationhollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:20 amYou were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:12 amIm red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:08 amBlue.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:04 amI claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:02 amYou know you got six mana.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:00 amI dont think anyone has the capacity to give more than 3 mana at a time, so you must be lying. Why are you fake claiming giving me 6 mana?
How am I lying?
Is anyone going to claim that they gave you mana and I didn't give you six?
If I am lying, why would I do that?
But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
But I understand your concern.
You are a civilian henceforth.
My explanation is lame.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:06 pm If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:20 amYou were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:12 amIm red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:08 amBlue.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:04 amI claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:02 amYou know you got six mana.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:00 am
I dont think anyone has the capacity to give more than 3 mana at a time, so you must be lying. Why are you fake claiming giving me 6 mana?
How am I lying?
Is anyone going to claim that they gave you mana and I didn't give you six?
If I am lying, why would I do that?
But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
But I understand your concern.
You are a civilian henceforth.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:36 pmWhy do you think Marmot is town? I'm sus of him this RD, based off his criticism of 112 for voting the same wagon that 112's scum reads (Marmot & Epi) were voting.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:56 pm @falcon45ca
Can we learn we’re both town and yeet someone not cuddly rodent shaped?
Thing is, both Marmot & Epi were ALSO voting the same wagon as one of their scum reads....me. I've quoted Marmot recently pointing out this hypocrisy...crickets.
Marmot also declined to give a read on my ISO despite being asked several times last RD, and only did so much later when my wagon got some traction.
These seem good? I think?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:39 pmWhat does this mean? Sounds like you're hedging a bit, and what do you mean "don't think today's the day that happens"? How on earth is a TP this confident in their reads?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.
I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.
If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.
What discord am I sewing amongst the players today?
I can see where Falcon gets to hedging. I don't think it's wolfy hedging though if that makes sense.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:45 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:39 pmWhat does this mean? Sounds like you're hedging a bit, and what do you mean "don't think today's the day that happens"? How on earth is a TP this confident in their reads?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.
I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.
If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.
What discord am I sewing amongst the players today?
I'm confident in the POE that I've established, and until it's proved inaccurate, I don't feel the need reconsider my strong townreads.
But to answer your question, it's posts like this. Instead of asking me to clarify or something like that, you're saying that I'm hedging and imo framing my post in a negative light and discrediting me.
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:08 pm I’m gonna [VOTE: falcon] aubergine btw.
Quick points before I settle down somehwere:
* Dunya brought up his vig claim. Where I’m at in my catch up he only brought it up as a joke (“I’ll kill you!” posts are classic ultraviolence-era Enrique-core), but I see that more recently he talked about damaging someone. I’m completely unconvinced.
* I talked about him being chaotic earlier. There was an entire page early on that was just him and Kyle discussing whether Kyle’s hotter than dunya. Then he decided Kyle wasn’t his friend for being too silly. It’s fairly minor but leaves a bad taste.
* I don’t want to lynch Ted or Urist. Epignosis I don’t really have an opinion on (I mostly remember two posts by him - one seemed really civ, it was maybe his first one, pointing out the silliness of falcon town-reading LC for reading the rules). If anyone I think JPIC is the better non-falcon option but his posts are pretty much nothing.
* Ted-three-lands-gate is a fake scandal (ik some of my town reads also pushed it but I still don’t like it).
* Is generally just all over the place. Some people he distrusts too easily, some he trusts for no apparent reason. His thought process is very hard for me to follow and I don’t think it’s organic.
* Super early on I thought he was really pushing for Jack and Bolas (separately) to each reveal their role. I actually have this as two separate notes and just noticed the connection. As far as I can tell he hasn’t been doing more of this since neither of them elaborated and faded into the background.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:29 am Epi, why would you give Guillo 6 mana? Was there a post he made that led you to believe he needed mana?
Hi there, sure is a comfy pocket you've gotJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:49 pmI only townread the following: Jack & HK. maybe guillo is slightly town, i guessMarmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:48 pmJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:44 pmSewing discord for scumreading you? ok palMarmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.
I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.
If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.
What do you think of my townreads? Do you disagree?
the rest are either null or scum
Are you saying you agree with the read?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:01 pmHe is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:00 pm I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice