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Obscurity, if i am town what does that tell you about the rest of sabi’s reads?obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:13 am I don't think that the Jack thing is a tell in how it's formatted at all but -
I could genuinely see Sabi feeling compelled to put a partner here (in the 3rd position especially seems bad), which is a point against Lucy to me.
hat's real, I should do better about speaking my mind since it doesn't really affect anything ty lucyNeon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:03 amYou've been stewing on a lot of secret little reads that you don't mention until the opportunity benefits you. Why not talk about them earlier? I remember at least two reads you've now noted you've had fire a bit but never mentioned until it was opportunistic.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:37 amkay sorry I've been stewing on this for a bit, I really feel like Schiavetto has done squat since dropping a big catchup post D1
like you just re-read Schia, right? I think going one-by-one their posts read as slightly towny to me. But as a whole, there's very little effort at solving anything.
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and then their votes are all over the place
D1: Scotty [1]
D2: Sabiplz [9]
D3: lucy [1]: Schiavetto
today D4: back being alone on lcu
town, outed scum, ? vanity wagon ?
Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:14 amit's a fine question, just trying to figure out why that in particular is your question for me in particular
like i can see the vill motivation for this question. but.
i haven't done too much this game &i feel like there would be more urgent lines of inquiry.
to answer you though, i had the thought going into D2 that anne had a lot of Good posts d1 but none that felt locking - when Mac came in pushing for the tri-dome part of why I poked at lucy was bc it felt weird being one of the only other ppl in thread at a time (early-phase) when it wouldve been helpful to have more movement around the three & i felt she was being avoidant. i don't think any of anne's treatment of sabi d2 was distinctly unpartnered & i did have the thought at one point that with sabi already outed it would make sense for partner!anne to railroad the lim anyway@Schiavetto, what other things? What more urgent lines of inquiry?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:07 pm it's not a world i'm super invested in living in though & there are other things to worry about imo
poke poke [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
btw I asked how you felt about anne, schia, because in my mind there's really only two ways to read her slot, either her flipping sabi was a planned scum play, or it wasn't and anne should be conf!town. I think there is actually an argument for both, given Sabi didn't post for like ~8 hours or something yet managed to respond to anne's snipe in 6 minutes flat. Which to me hints at...and I'm still new so I don't know squat about setups...but could there be a daychat for mafia? Someone tell me I'm loony.
But being wishywashy on anne to me feels like you're not invested in the game, which makes sense if you're scum and the miskills are flowing and so you haven't had to pay any attention to what's actually going on. So up you go.
've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7
sk neon for help, since scum!sabi is deadJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:57 am pxxy's iso is hard for me to read. Like...as a player who hasn't played with pxxy who is distracted by kids and work.
've been saying this!!
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:27 am falcon45ca
- I'm not a fan
- still basically lurking
- cape vote felt weird
- NEVER ANSWERED ME ABOUT EOD D1
- lol
- rondo actually sr falcon, I swear (viewtopic.php?p=961894#p961894)
- let a vote sit on rondo for a loooooong time D2
- also spent a lot of time on creature
flawed logic, she’d be fear killed by now
nd yet you seemed incapable of posting any of them until prodded but votes on you?Schiavetto wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:14 amwhat is your definition of wishywashypyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:37 am poke poke [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
btw I asked how you felt about anne, schia, because in my mind there's really only two ways to read her slot, either her flipping sabi was a planned scum play, or it wasn't and anne should be conf!town. I think there is actually an argument for both, given Sabi didn't post for like ~8 hours or something yet managed to respond to anne's snipe in 6 minutes flat. Which to me hints at...and I'm still new so I don't know squat about setups...but could there be a daychat for mafia? Someone tell me I'm loony.
But being wishywashy on anne to me feels like you're not invested in the game, which makes sense if you're scum and the miskills are flowing and so you haven't had to pay any attention to what's actually going on. So up you go.
i don't see wishywashy
a man is capable of holding more than a thought at a time
lot twist :O
ight, so anne's either scum, or scum is convinced that attempting to NK her is a bad idea (which is why I asked schia about anne's lot. like I said, this feels like an obvious conclusion about anne's slot, and so avoiding saying anything about anne's slot is weird.)lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:31 pmflawed logic, she’d be fear killed by now
over rondo and scotty
i’m going to school now, pyxxy read rondo’s legacy again but assume it’s shit and that there’s scum mostly at the top and it’s very favorable for scum
lmao I forgot about that. literal switch of vote same minute as day ended whew
@obscurity answer is they’re hard scum siding and gave wigly a TRlucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:04 pmObscurity, if i am town what does that tell you about the rest of sabi’s reads?obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:13 am I don't think that the Jack thing is a tell in how it's formatted at all but -
I could genuinely see Sabi feeling compelled to put a partner here (in the 3rd position especially seems bad), which is a point against Lucy to me.
i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
Really depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.
i independently SR all those 3, then you’re here and i read your reads list where those 3 are all your top town. would lend me more credibility if you’ve had really terrible reads lists beforeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:53 pmReally depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.
Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.
I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.
Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.
Where you going with this?
I guess that answers that.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pmi think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular viewJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pmI guess that answers that.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pmi think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
How do you feel about Creature?
My reads in SF3 were kinda bad. My reads in Misplay mafia were kinda bad. But that's like 2 of my last 5ish towngames and I think I did good or at least decent in the rest.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pmi independently SR all those 3, then you’re here and i read your reads list where those 3 are all your top town. would lend me more credibility if you’ve had really terrible reads lists beforeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:53 pmReally depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.
Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.
I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.
Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.
Where you going with this?
What thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pmi think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular viewJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pmI guess that answers that.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pmi think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
How do you feel about Creature?
creature is sheeping mac’s iso on you from my pov, but i reckon he’s right on anne and he’s scum leaning on obscurity i think which is really townie imoJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pmWhat thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pmi think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular viewJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pmI guess that answers that.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pmi think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
How do you feel about Creature?
Mac scumreads me 100% of the time on D1 regardless of his alignment or mine. And I either push him back or I ignore him based on my read on him. You can go back and check like a dozen games and it's the same every time. And Mac said his scumread on Anne was to protect her from getting nightkilled N1.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:59 pmcreature is sheeping mac’s iso on you from my pov, but i reckon he’s right on anne and he’s scum leaning on obscurity i think which is really townie imoJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pmWhat thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pmi think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular viewJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pmI guess that answers that.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pmi think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
How do you feel about Creature?
my ears were burning
heoretically speaking what do we gain from flipping scum!anne besides one less scum? like it is worth trying to deal with today, or soon, or just better knowing that if anne makes kilo or something that she's dead to rights? would it reveal more things about D1 interactions that off the top of your head we would immediately benefit from?Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:14 pmanne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo
1 wolf in Creature/Obscurity/Porscha maybe Anne/Neon if I'm starting to reassess the clears I gave them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:08 pm Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.
I guess Creature and Neon were the players I was planning on reading anyway.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:20 pm1 wolf in Creature/Obscurity/Porscha maybe Anne/Neon if I'm starting to reassess the clears I gave them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:08 pm Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.
Schiavetto's slot can be a wolf.
Nook can be a wolf.
This gamestate doesn't point to you being wolf. Lucy/Seanzie I would need to be really hard pressed into revoking the Sabi clear. I don't see pyxxy's posts having a scum angle too. Hard to detour me from that one at this point.
I remember so little from earlier in the game that I don't have a good answer to that. If you mean flipping anne wouldn't provide info, i'm not so sure about that? didn't anne have pretty good amount of posting day 1? may or may not find spew with the flip. I don't really think that she's #1 priority today regardlesspyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:17 pmheoretically speaking what do we gain from flipping scum!anne besides one less scum? like it is worth trying to deal with today, or soon, or just better knowing that if anne makes kilo or something that she's dead to rights? would it reveal more things about D1 interactions that off the top of your head we would immediately benefit from?Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:14 pmanne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo
ep same not #1 prio just wanted to sync minds with youPorscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:25 pmI remember so little from earlier in the game that I don't have a good answer to that. If you mean flipping anne wouldn't provide info, i'm not so sure about that? didn't anne have pretty good amount of posting day 1? may or may not find spew with the flip. I don't really think that she's #1 priority today regardlesspyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:17 pmheoretically speaking what do we gain from flipping scum!anne besides one less scum? like it is worth trying to deal with today, or soon, or just better knowing that if anne makes kilo or something that she's dead to rights? would it reveal more things about D1 interactions that off the top of your head we would immediately benefit from?Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:14 pmanne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo
