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Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:47 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pm I could yeet 1612 tbh

1612/Jeraldo wagons or 1612/Lav wagons?

Either one I guess, but I was thinking the latter because if 1612 and Lavender are both town, that seems like the least likely scum possibility as of right now.

If 1612 and jeraldo are both town, the team could be Lavender/speed/Cobbler which seems slightly more plausible to me right now than speed/Cobbler/Michelle.

It's splitting hairs though. I really don't know.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?

You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm**

This 1612 EOD has been really bad. I may have to violate my anti-flash-wagon rule.

(Well, technically, my rule is "no flash wagoning one hour before deadline", but I still have twelve minutes before I cross that boundary...)

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm 1612, I think the fact that you have only one scum team possibility actually makes you very NOT town.
my read on that is based off how solely how i feel on the lavendar and michelle situation. if im wrong then I still don't hink I am far too off the mark with the rest of my POE. the latter two are just POE and there is nothing to suggest that those two can't be a team with either of the two we are talking about

But here's the thing, if we misyeet today we're at F7 where only one stray vote loses us the game.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm 1612, I think the fact that you have only one scum team possibility actually makes you very NOT town.
This is accurate actually.
Like if I was town 1612 here, how the heck am I this confident as to what the gamesolve is?

I may read Michelle scum and I may even think Lavender is town based on the Michelle thunderdome, but how the heck am I that certain on Urist?

I've even been not actively considering Dizzy or Urist, and well, *gestures at my posts*.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm**

Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??

Didn't you go to great lengths to establish an anti-Michelle legacy? And emphasize how you can read Lavender really well because you have meta with him? If you were flipping town what makes you think we would vote wrong in that scenario?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:47 pmEither one I guess, but I was thinking the latter because if 1612 and Lavender are both town, that seems like the least likely scum possibility as of right now.

If 1612 and jeraldo are both town, the team could be Lavender/speed/Cobbler which seems slightly more plausible to me right now than speed/Cobbler/Michelle.

It's splitting hairs though. I really don't know.

I still think 1612/Lav could be s/s wagons, and they were just wanting to yeet Michelle. But why the vote on you though? Only thing that makes it weird.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:50 pm**

I think 1612's play displays an agenda. He wants to white knight me for my trust.

And then being strict with only one real scum team possibility? It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't sound like someone who lacks information about the game.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:50 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL

Does s/s literally say this? Lol

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm 1612, I think the fact that you have only one scum team possibility actually makes you very NOT town.
This is accurate actually.
Like if I was town 1612 here, how the heck am I this confident as to what the gamesolve is?

I may read Michelle scum and I may even think Lavender is town based on the Michelle thunderdome, but how the heck am I that certain on Urist?
I've even been not actively considering Dizzy or Urist, and well, *gestures at my posts*.

Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent on Lavender too even though I'm confident Lavender/Michelle is V/W. And I've put you, Dizzy and Urist out of my mind. This confidence is baffling to me, because there's no smoking gun that a townie would conceivably have to be super certain what the team is at this point.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??

So you want to flip Michelle specifically, but what if she's town? Wouldn't we then have the same exact problem but with your name in there instead?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:52 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
Didn't you go to great lengths to establish an anti-Michelle legacy? And emphasize how you can read Lavender really well because you have meta with him? If you were flipping town what makes you think we would vote wrong in that scenario?

my flip gets you nowhere with the michelle and lavendar vote. you paired me with both of them, it really doesn't do anything once i flip blue
Really bad use of our one mis-banish

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:52 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL

If you are town I will ask you not to use AtE with me.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:52 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:50 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL
Does s/s literally say this? Lol

Good point.

Maybe it's 1612/Michelle/?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:52 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:47 pmEither one I guess, but I was thinking the latter because if 1612 and Lavender are both town, that seems like the least likely scum possibility as of right now.

If 1612 and jeraldo are both town, the team could be Lavender/speed/Cobbler which seems slightly more plausible to me right now than speed/Cobbler/Michelle.

It's splitting hairs though. I really don't know.
I still think 1612/Lav could be s/s wagons, and they were just wanting to yeet Michelle. But why the vote on you though? Only thing that makes it weird.

That I'm not quite sure of. Perhaps Lavender could have been trying to get people to think TWTBAW, which ngl worked on me just a bit there but also I'm going to consider all the possibilities anyway so.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:53 pm**

You can use AtE with me, 1612. Let those emotions out. I want to read them.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:53 pm**

I'll feel bad if 1612 is town here ngl
But any town misyeet would suck the worst. I just want that red flip to blow the game open

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:54 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:52 pmGood point.

Maybe it's 1612/Michelle/?

Speed? Ted?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:54 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider
Why would your flip give no information?
You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??
So you want to flip Michelle specifically, but what if she's town? Wouldn't we then have the same exact problem but with your name in there instead?

That problem doesn't exist at least for my perspective. I would say my opinion on the situation is not v/w. I just hink Michelle's push for Lavendar was awful for picking specific quotes to push. It's not a if one flips villager the other is scum to me, its just lavendar is more town than michelle.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:54 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:53 pm I'll feel bad if 1612 is town here ngl
But any town misyeet would suck the worst. I just want that red flip to blow the game open

Right, I mean, I'll feel bad too. But like... we need to try to go for the flip we think is most likely to flip red right now. F7 is the worst case scenario. At least if we flip red today then it gets knocked down to F5 worst case scenario, and we then have interactive analyses that can be done. That makes a huge difference.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:53 pm I'll feel bad if 1612 is town here ngl
But any town misyeet would suck the worst. I just want that red flip to blow the game open

Please temper your expectations. Most red flips won't blow the game open - the waters are too murky here. It is almost certain that several townies are extremely wrong about the gamestate.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm**

I wish Tutu was still here
Hold me, mom

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm**

I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:56 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I wish Tutu was still here
Hold me, mom

I'll still just assume you mean me again and ignore anything said to the contrary.

Shhhh, it's okay. Everything's going to be okay.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:56 pm**

I'm still thinking. I'm not sold on 1612 being wolf by any means.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:56 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pmPlease temper your expectations. Most red flips won't blow the game open - the waters are too murky here. It is almost certain that several townies are extremely wrong about the gamestate.

How wrong about the game state though? Actually, what even is the game state anymore? I feel I'm having a lot of "well, it's either this or that" which we don't really have room for at this point

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm**

Hey Dizzy, if you're a wolf I'm going to cut you.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm**

I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:58 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm Hey Dizzy, if you're a wolf I'm going to cut you.

Actually, you know what... if you are, take me to F3.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:58 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm Hey Dizzy, if you're a wolf I'm going to cut you.

Hawt tbh, but also I'm not, so we have to figure out something else hawt

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:58 pm**

I'm so glad tutuu didn't check me actually. MP7 is going to FX. GET PREPARED, WOLVES.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:59 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet

These are the three I'm most comfortable with as well, choosing between them is the issue.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

Urist and I also believe this is possible.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm**

Lav and 1612 lone votes on MP and Michelle lol. Why?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:02 pm**

Who knows Ted? Is Ted towny?

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:02 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?

mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:02 pm Who knows Ted? Is Ted towny?

I don't think I've ever played with ted before. Let me hop into that ISO.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet

Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

You are voting Lavender. It costs you nothing to distance Michelle a little.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm
1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.
if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it
Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?
mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn

I did, but like... I'm missing it still. Why can't either of us be a deepwolf here? Help me get there.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:04 pm**

Show me that townie spark, 1612.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:05 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.

Thank you, Alison. I don't mean to get into a frenzy. I can't help getting stressed and emotionally invested in games. It's part of the fun for me, even if I kind of hate it at the time lol. But you're right. It's just a game. Either I'm right, or I'm wrong, and I'll play and learn I guess.

GTH, right now, who is the best lynch for you between these three? Gut reaction.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:05 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.

Let's play again after this sometime.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:06 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:05 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm I mean, these are the three wagons I'm most comfortable with, but I'm still stressed, cause we can't have a misyeet
Stress leads to bad decisions. Also remember that this game is played for no stakes. Just calmly look at the evidence in front of you and select the player with the highest probability of being mafia. Keep cool and you'll do fine - your reads are good.
Thank you, Alison. I don't mean to get into a frenzy. I can't help getting stressed and emotionally invested in games. It's part of the fun for me, even if I kind of hate it at the time lol. But you're right. It's just a game. Either I'm right, or I'm wrong, and I'll play and learn I guess.

GTH, right now, who is the best lynch for you between these three? Gut reaction.

MOOD

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:06 pm**

If it's Lav/MP I'm going to kick a puppy I swear

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:06 pm**

I have the EOD sweats, it's okay, I'm used to it.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:06 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:06 pm If it's Lav/MP I'm going to kick a puppy I swear

LMAO, that'd be fun actually.

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