The Syndicate

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:49 pmfalcon town

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:49 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:47 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:46 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:42 pm dizzy eats a policy tunnel d3 if she doesn't bag 2 wolves

Two? Good to know.

high standards after anni game 4

I do not recall the game. I have more confidence in myself after my last two games though. I'm taking the compliment. ^^

you wrecked me/rico/dolby

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:51 pm tbf that team isnt exactly stacked

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:49 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:47 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:46 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:42 pm dizzy eats a policy tunnel d3 if she doesn't bag 2 wolves

Two? Good to know.

high standards after anni game 4

I do not recall the game. I have more confidence in myself after my last two games though. I'm taking the compliment. ^^

you wrecked me/rico/dolby

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:43 pm Just don't lynch me today.

That's all I ask.

So you're fine w/ being lynched tomorrow?




If you're actually Town, what difference does it make? A ML is a ML, regardless of the D1 or whatever

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:04 pm I am def selfpresing if needed but I would really rather not get considered to be lynched today.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:05 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:04 pm I am def selfpresing if needed but I would really rather not get considered to be lynched today.

days r 48h

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:24 pm Attempting to sort players:

Town: Guillo, Marmot, Nut, Kate, Michelle, Sean
Also town, less reasoning: Scotty, Cape, pyxxy, Lily, Neon, Lucy
Should probably be town as well, but different tier: Golden, Radish

People I have sexy thoughts about: Ender, Rondo, IAWY, Sloonei

Everyone else I may have conflicted thoughts or no thoughts on. I may or may not have reasoning for any of these reads. Please compare notes.

Tell me about... me. Why am I town?

You literally always ask this. =p

I think you are town because of the way you are posting. I think you are solving the game in your head and pressuring people the way I'm used to seeing. I don't think I've been wrong on you yet, and we have played quite a few games together. So meta, if you will. I hope that suffices and pleases you.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:09 pm I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:10 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:09 pm I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

post more

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:03 pm Hobestly the only reason I am afraid of getting mislynched here is because I am at three votes and there are no wagons getting four or more votes.

You should all start piling on someone otherwise you won't put wolves out of their comfort zone.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:36 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:05 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:46 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 am I am getting weird vibes from Michelle while catching up this morning

this read is not a good one

I kinda agree with it

Was this a read?

What's the point of this question?

Also i checked Michelle's ISO and im 100% certain she is town.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:14 pm Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:16 pm Tell me about Dennis.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:14 pm Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:27 pm I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

by choice or by rule? or both?

I can use it on anyone I want, but the way it works makes it a lot more profitable if I shoot a zeroposter that doesn't care about the game and will realistically be POE'd forever

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:18 pm too unpredictable/can trick me

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:16 pm Tell me about Dennis.

town

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:19 pm Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:20 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:16 pm Tell me about Dennis.

town

Well, that clarifies your position quite nicely.

Why?

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:20 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:16 pm Tell me about Dennis.

town

Well, that clarifies your position quite nicely.

Why?

there's no such thing as internal justification

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:21 pm times are a changing

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:46 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:38 pm Something I noticed, Dennis seemed a lot more content talking/joking with Kate, than anyone else itt earlier.

I don't really think that's AI though, unless they're exactly wolf partners together like they were in Cartomancy

i mean i guess that makes sense regardless. i do tr kate and would put some weight on her read of dennis too

(I forgot to add) Dennis was reluctant to sign up for this game given the size.


Why do people scumread Dennis? I missed all of that content.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:15 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:12 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:10 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:08 pm Omg I'm bored

Hi bored I'm Dennis

Hello child

YA HEAR THAT GUYS??? IM A KID THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO LET ME WIN AND IF YOU DONT ILL

I'll

uh

that parts a secret

You randed wolf huh.

Explain

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:38 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:33 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:18 pm IAWY and Guillotine have both expressed strong ‘HK never acts this way as town’ views.

I don’t know HK at all. I’m interested in takes on:

A) are iawy and Guillo reliable readers of HK
B) do their meta points ring true to others.

No.

I do think I have as much (maybe more) xp with HK, and it could go either way. We just chop him in another game off site where he acted like this. He was town. IRL happens also.

Thank you for the counterpoint. Is miseliming HK common?

happens. but get a read. I mean don't buy my words lol.

WHat is weirding me out is Guillo having trouble with HK being annoyed at him. Like we all know what would have happened if HK didn't react like he did. I mean.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:25 pm lucy is objectively wolfsiding with her reads

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

37/40

-tutuu

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:25 pm lucy is objectively wolfsiding with her reads

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

37/40

-tutuu

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:11 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:10 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:09 pm I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

post more

Vote other people then. We can't even get a fucking wagon to 5 votes despite there being like 36 voters in total.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:33 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:32 am omg yes Ender is playing. I will tunnel him. @hollowkatt join, it will be fun

rondo will join u

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:35 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:32 am @hollowkatt @falcon45ca which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?

I'm town, it's clearly laid out in my first post.



HK...is he town? Is he maf? I dunno, haven't thought about it too much as of yet. His reaction to Guillo's early tunnel is more towny than not, but it's not a lot to go off.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:44 am

Spoiler: show

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:46 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:41 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:46 am So who is going to get shot? Someone is getting a gun. Should we discuss best shot?

No. Whoever gets the gun should shoot their scum read. Simple!

Don't listen to Guillo, chat is good.

Guillo totally in wolf meta fwiw

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:47 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:46 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:41 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:46 am So who is going to get shot? Someone is getting a gun. Should we discuss best shot?

No. Whoever gets the gun should shoot their scum read. Simple!

Don't listen to Guillo, chat is good.

Guillo totally in wolf meta fwiw

I will probably ignore everyone and shoot whoever I want

Hope I don't win

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:49 am Sabi immediatly jumping on Michelle is rand>scum. #neverrescind

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:02 am Voters: Party Crasher, Neon, Creature, falcon45ca

Also at least one wolf in here

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:11 am ebwop

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:45 pm ebwop:

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:35 pm
I dig it. Micro interactions like this feel very spontaneously and can be harder to pull off when you're hyper-conscious of your perceived association with the other person.

I dont get it.

The theory is basically that mafia partners are more conscious of how they look in relation to one another. As such, they might be more hesitant to engage in casual chatter like this early in a game. Their interactions might instead tend to feel more choreographed, prepared, or calculated. They'll pick their spots.

So when two players freely and spontaneously engage in a silly little side conversation, it can be taken as an indication that they do not have those concerns about perception against them.

This is not a rock solid tell, nor am I saying that I agree or disagree with pyxxy's read of sig and sabiplz. But I can see where the thought comes from, and it is a read I am willing to acknowledge at this stage of the game (even if I'm projecting my own interpretation onto it).

reasonable tell. my plan was to just wait out until numbers dwindle. most likely will sheep alison/mac if i think theyre town since this is their home arena and they'll probs get nkd early if theyre town. once the numbers die down we should work together if we're both still around.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:16 am

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:08 am Voters: Alison, lucy, MacDougall

One wolf here @MacDougall

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:02 am Voters: Party Crasher, Neon, Creature, falcon45ca

Also at least one wolf in here

Creature only has two posts in the couple hours, and they're both saying that there's a wolf on the leading wagons.

@Creature is there a reason you feel confident there is a wolf on these wagons?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:29 am I agree. Creature rand> maf

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:30 am

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:33 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:30 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:21 am So not voting toDay

Dennis
Kate
Golden
Zeus
Lucy
Ender

Not a fan of
Lily
Alison
Rondo

what i do

You seem to care enough to make an explanatory wall.
I haven't seen that from town!you before

Why do people scumread Michelle? I mean, I understand the reasoning, that she is a little stiff, but I sort of expect that in some capacity from her. I don't think of it as AI.

Also I found this particular read nuanced enough, I think it's rand!v for now.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:35 am

Spoiler: show

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:28 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:16 am

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:08 am Voters: Alison, lucy, MacDougall

One wolf here @MacDougall

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:02 am Voters: Party Crasher, Neon, Creature, falcon45ca

Also at least one wolf in here

Creature only has two posts in the couple hours, and they're both saying that there's a wolf on the leading wagons.

@Creature is there a reason you feel confident there is a wolf on these wagons?

It's mostly a saying that any wagon with at least three voters is likely to contain at least one wolf in it regardless of the wagonee's alignment.

That is possibly true

(Quick math suggests in a standard 12v3 game, if there are three players on a wagon Day 1, there is a 48% chance they are all town, and thus a 52% chance that at least one of them is a wolf).


My qualm is that you didn't really explore any of the names, just listed them. Your name is even on one of those lists

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:41 am Neon's my strongest townread atm. She's the top poster, and a large amount of it is fluff yes, but she does seem to be naturally responding with game takes amidst her shitposting, and I think that combination of content is pretty townie.

It's also a drastic change from Holes Mafia, where she had trouble pushing other players in the game when she tried (namely me)

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:02 pm The thing with Guillo being that he got outed in anni G2 by HK because he tryed too hard to chop me D1. Not sure how helpfull this is actually. something something.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:53 am Wolves

Hollowkatt
Scotty
Sig
Kate
Golden

All of them individually.

Kate/Golden don't make sense as a pair but they both are individually wolfy.

Now I go to sleep

ok list minus kate, i was just considering going back to voting in scotty/golden

also want to see more from others on that low posting list like marmot, porscha

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:53 am @Porscha can you iso Lily and Neon for me and give me some thots?

the dangerous trio

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:07 pm Reading me as town

I don't think so Mac

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:14 pm

Spoiler: show

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:33 pm Hello everyone, as Party Crasher, I am here to share some information with you that I believe is crucial to our success as a town. I strongly suspect that Golden is Mafia, and I have evidence to support my claim.

Firstly, I want to establish my own credibility as a Town member. I have been actively participating in discussions and investigations throughout this game, and I have been advocating for the best interests of the Town. My voting record shows that I have consistently voted in favor of lynching suspected Mafia members, and I have been pushing for more investigations to uncover the truth.

Now, regarding Golden, I have observed some suspicious behavior from him. Golden has been relatively quiet in our discussions, and when he does speak, he tends to deflect attention away from himself and onto others. He has also been quick to jump on bandwagons and vote with the majority, which could indicate that he is trying to blend in and avoid suspicion.

Furthermore, I have noticed that Golden has been inconsistent in his statements. He has made some statements that don't quite add up, and when confronted with these discrepancies, he has been evasive and defensive.

Based on all of these factors, I strongly believe that Golden is Mafia. I urge the Town to take my suspicions seriously and to carefully consider the evidence that I have presented. We cannot afford to let a Mafia member slip through our grasp, and we need to work together to identify and eliminate the threat. Thank you for your attention.

This case is pretty weak/D1-standard and only looks bigger than it is because 90% of the post is big words fluff to give an appearance of grandiosity

Not that the case itself isn’t something to look into, but the method of communicating it has a certain level of pompousness in it that may push people away from the read, which I almost-wonder is intentional. The reason I say that is just imagine a PC/Golden W/W scenario (regardless of how likely such a pairing is), you make a case on your scumbuddy but then you write the case in such a way where people don’t pay attention, so if your scimbuddy ever gets chopped later you can point to that post and say that you were onto them and gain towncred, while providing an empty case that nobody will pick up, thus letting you have your cake and eat it too because your scumbuddy isn’t actually going to be pushed

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:27 pm ok lol im pocketed by golden for real by now

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:29 pm i'm being townread too much

Alison - I think you are town for your progression (690) on le petit (709). Alison claims KP. People have said Alison is wolfy, I don't get it.

Creature - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

Dennis - Seems like the type of person to get a heavy wagon on them. I'm neutral here.

DrWigly - I don't have a good reason to think Wigly is town here, but I feel like Wigly is town here off "seeming curious" I guess... somewhat.

Dyslexicon - 3rd party moment.

EnderWiggin - 3rd party moment.

falcon45ca - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

-Wow my write ups are really writing themselves arent they-

Golden - Never played with you, but I like your posts, they seem to be in obviously town territory. I'm lazy but ima just point to things 1200, (826 (combined with townreading Alison)), also not citing specific things, but I like Golden's confidence on their Kate townread (I haven't read Kate yet).

Guillotine - Feels like town!Guillo this game, wasn't sure, but with their recent material, I am pretty sure about this. Solving also feels independent like it usually feels with them.

hollowkatt - I think ur kinda wolfy this game HK NGL.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:41 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:36 pm @Cape90 What's Alison's progression on my 0 post slot (at the time)?

oh you literally haven't spoken

never mind

I was ISOing in alphabetical order, sorry, but I will keep that in mind since it now is just kind of strange to say

@Alison why did you want to shoot le petit for 0 posting?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:29 pm lucy carry me through day 1 there are too many ppl and im scared

your reads list i agree with of the ppl i have reads on though