The Syndicate

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:20 pm Dharma, llama I think are town
weaker TR on Wilgy

Could be tempted to townbin scotty + axe, but will decide later. More chaotic and less calculated suggests town)

Agree about Llama, they passed the vibe test until now

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:11 pm Voting for a Day 1 low-poster is a last resort option in the absence of “real” suspects.

This

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

Is this a comment on the state of the game or a strategic suggestion?

I'm going to sleep

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

Is this a comment on the state of the game or a strategic suggestion?

Neither?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

Is this a comment on the state of the game or a strategic suggestion?

Neither?

Explain

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

Is this a comment on the state of the game or a strategic suggestion?

Neither?

Explain

No

It was a random assemblage of characters which coincidentally formed a coherent sentence.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:31 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

Is this a comment on the state of the game or a strategic suggestion?

Neither?

Explain

No

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

This is not an attitude I can work with.

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:22 pm The fact that no one is trying to lynch me on Day One is very out of character for this site and is making me uneasy.

Ok f***ing hell this is bullsuit.

Town read of llama.

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:14 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:08 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:05 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:54 pm There would be nothing more ‘classic mafia’ than DF being D1 lynched for low posting.

Hopefully they posts and we can make a read because lynching a low poster at random is a coin flip.

I would say ‘at random’ excludes meta reads. Lynching a low posting DF on day 1 feels like worse odds than a coin flip to me.

Pointing out that Finger showed inquisitiveness towards Llama (iirc) not mentioning DF while Golden is less concerned with putting the screws on DF.

Makes Golden look slightly too complacent maybe.
Fingersplints townier unless DF is mafia.

Maybe useful to go back to for pairings later.

What screws?

Is it too early for a classic rainbow list?
Michelle's participation today (apart from asking for sensitive personal information like my time zone) has me feeling better about her. My vote is unlikely to stay on her.

Scotty
fingersplints
DrWilgy
Golden
Michelle
DharmaHelper
DFaraday
G-Man
sig
Vivian
bea
Kate
Sloonei
Elohcin
Lora
Quin
NotAnAxehole

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:03 pm kidS! Yay! How many now and what ages?

2! It’s going so fast! Valerie is 4 and Jude is 1.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:34 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

This is not an attitude I can work with.

What attitude? I was just stating what I consider to be a matter of fact.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:46 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:03 pm kidS! Yay! How many now and what ages?

2! It’s going so fast! Valerie is 4 and Jude is 1.

Mine are 15, almost 13, and 10! You don't have to tell me it goes by fast

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:44 pm My sense is that the mafia is laying low right now. Kate has only two posts. Lorab has only three, although she also has a good excuse. Bea has no posts on Day 1 yet. I’ll be watching these players very closely.

I could see this. Especially if mafia are people that haven’t played in awhile they’ll be more likely to hang back and get acclimated

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:55 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:34 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm We're not killing mafia today.

This is not an attitude I can work with.

What attitude? I was just stating what I consider to be a matter of fact.

That is an attitude.

I don’t find Elon questioning and then flip flopping as that scummy. It actually seems more likely to fit within her D1

Not a fan of Axe (I believe) role fishing about mason earlier.

DH is my gut mafia read since he’s around and posting but not really contributing yet.

Scotty/Golden are pinging me a bit for the heavy defense of me against Eloh claim it would be an easy move for mafia to make especially older mafia players who are used to me being Mislynched to get some civ points

Having said that about Axe though his behavior isn’t outside Civ range right now and I seem to remember he’s generally more abrasive when he’s a cub

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:03 pm I don’t find Elon questioning and then flip flopping as that scummy. It actually seems more likely to fit within her D1

Not a fan of Axe (I believe) role fishing about mason earlier.

DH is my gut mafia read since he’s around and posting but not really contributing yet.

Scotty/Golden are pinging me a bit for the heavy defense of me against Eloh claim it would be an easy move for mafia to make especially older mafia players who are used to me being Mislynched to get some civ points

Don‘t recall you getting heavily defended against Eloh.
Seems like an odd representation of two players TRing you

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:03 pm I don’t find Elon questioning and then flip flopping as that scummy. It actually seems more likely to fit within her D1

Not a fan of Axe (I believe) role fishing about mason earlier.

DH is my gut mafia read since he’s around and posting but not really contributing yet.

Scotty/Golden are pinging me a bit for the heavy defense of me against Eloh claim it would be an easy move for mafia to make especially older mafia players who are used to me being Mislynched to get some civ points

When you say not contributing, do you mean not contributing what you want me to contribute because I've provoked at least two discussions that I can think of.

Oh boy! This catsup gonna be a biggie. I am sorry for the massive multipost coming.

Vivax is mafia.

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:08 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:03 pm I don’t find Elon questioning and then flip flopping as that scummy. It actually seems more likely to fit within her D1

Not a fan of Axe (I believe) role fishing about mason earlier.

DH is my gut mafia read since he’s around and posting but not really contributing yet.

Scotty/Golden are pinging me a bit for the heavy defense of me against Eloh claim it would be an easy move for mafia to make especially older mafia players who are used to me being Mislynched to get some civ points

Don‘t recall you getting heavily defended against Eloh.
Seems like an odd representation of two players TRing you

I’d argue the fact she was pressed over it for a good portion of the day and have been defending herself/accused of being mafia due to her actions surrounding me ties into me being defended. I guess you could phrase it more of them just being suspicious of her BUT, said suspicions wouldn’t have happened if she didn’t make a comment about me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:30 pm Vivax is mafia.

Why?

Also since some of my meta reads are a bit older who out of the old school players dislike being mafia more?

I seem to recall DF wasn’t a fan of being mafia and posted less when they rolled that way. But, besides them I’m drawing a blank

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:30 pm Vivax is mafia.

That‘s offtopic

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:34 pm Also since some of my meta reads are a bit older who out of the old school players dislike being mafia more?

I seem to recall DF wasn’t a fan of being mafia and posted less when they rolled that way. But, besides them I’m drawing a blank

I like being mafia!

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:30 pm Vivax is mafia.

Why?

His posts are too safe.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:09 pm History would dictate that I should vote a no-poster here, but history also says you shouldn’t march on Russia in the winter. I think that’s crock, see? You just have to wear thicker outer layers and bring more rations. I have it all figured out! While other poindexters might put their head down and wait until summer to make an offensive push on the oppressive czar of the day, I confidently proclaim “naw,” get on my bike and ride forth, baby. Instead of following the narrative “learn from the past’s mistakes,” I choose to “make mistakes in the future.” I choose to never make new beginnings by always postponing the endings.

Life is a haiku made up of an infinite spew of lines.

Anyway, [VOTE: Bea] aubergine

Wait. What? I didn't understand any of this. It was like a Dali painting but with words in my brain.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:28 pm I have an idea of who the mafia is, but it's not who I'm voting at the moment. Though, the person I'm voting may also be mafia, who knows.

I am confused by this logic as well.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

A) I am Bea (pronounced bee. Short for Beatrice.). I am usually extremely cheery especially at the start when I am just happy to talk to people. It's been like 8 years since I've played so I am probably extra cheery.

B) I, sadly, have been voted on for less.

C) I am curious as to what happened to point D in the list.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

I voted Bea.

That makes my heart sad. Even if it was short lived.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:11 pm Visions of Day 1’s of old are running through my mind. I’m not inclined to just let it go in the undisciplined manner of yesteryear. I need more meat to chew on from everyone first. I’m thankful that my night away coincided with Night 0 instead of the first half of Day 1.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:27 pm That being said, I actually think sig coming out and throwing caution to the wind with regards to his spelling and grammar is townie, if not reckless. Could be WIFOM, but that role is incredibly restrictive to my *vibe* which comes with autocorrect errors and incomplete sentences. So I get it.

The grammar police role is mafia. Making typos does not benefit town.

Valid point indeed! But the civvies have an adverb checker, so we should play it old school like when lie detector roles were still in vogue and pressure everyone to post a unique adverb. Anyone who resists must die.

I agree with what G-man is laying down here.

Adverbs in generaly VASTLY improve communication. They can also HEAVILY color meaning in terms of connoative associations.


(Oh! I almost souned smart up there!)

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:35 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:29 am Y'all should know to give me a little leeway before suspecting me, especially when I've been away for so many years.

No mercy for the cakemaker!

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:21 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:28 pm I have an idea of who the mafia is, but it's not who I'm voting at the moment. Though, the person I'm voting may also be mafia, who knows.

I do not like this post, nor do I like the vote for Bea. Mind you, I think voting for Bea in general is reasonable because people always tend to trust her, which makes her dangerous on the occasions when she is mafia, but Axey’s vote came without explanation and was a pile on after a (marginally) more justified vote.

Also, why would you not vote for who you think the mafia is?

I am worthy of trust this time round llamaloo!

Also, Hiiiiiiii! Miss you sir!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:31 am Bea: *Lick*
G-Man: *Lick*

I am now curious as to how I taste.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:29 pm I think Dharma and Wilgy are villagers
I liked Scotty asking about the reason of receiving a town read

I have mixed feelings about Eloh I think they can go either way




I am sorry if I make any gender mistake, for players I don't know I will use they but I would appreciate help here.eta infos would be great!

Also I wish to know everyone's time zone.
I live in East Europe and for me is 10:30 pm now

I am female. My time is currently 2:47 pm. I am in Arizona (US) where time is bizzare.

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:44 pm My sense is that the mafia is laying low right now. Kate has only two posts. Lorab has only three, although she also has a good excuse. Bea has no posts on Day 1 yet. I’ll be watching these players very closely.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:47 pm

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:44 pm My sense is that the mafia is laying low right now. Kate has only two posts. Lorab has only three, although she also has a good excuse. Bea has no posts on Day 1 yet. I’ll be watching these players very closely.

Is there a reason you skipped over dfaraday who only has 1?

Interesting point. Upon further reading of the thread "forgot him" feels on brand for DF too.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:54 pm There would be nothing more ‘classic mafia’ than DF being D1 lynched for low posting.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:08 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:05 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:54 pm There would be nothing more ‘classic mafia’ than DF being D1 lynched for low posting.

Hopefully they posts and we can make a read because lynching a low poster at random is a coin flip.

I would say ‘at random’ excludes meta reads. Lynching a low posting DF on day 1 feels like worse odds than a coin flip to me.

This all vibes better for golden imo. Far too many mafia games lose civ DF for low posting right out the gate if memory serves correctly.

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:22 pm The fact that no one is trying to lynch me on Day One is very out of character for this site and is making me uneasy.

I don't remember you being in the hot seat on day 1 much, but things change I guess and I've been gone a minute.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:00 pm

thellama73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:44 pm My sense is that the mafia is laying low right now. Kate has only two posts. Lorab has only three, although she also has a good excuse. Bea has no posts on Day 1 yet. I’ll be watching these players very closely.

I could see this. Especially if mafia are people that haven’t played in awhile they’ll be more likely to hang back and get acclimated

I am not mafia. I have however been gone a long time. Getting acclimated after a long break isn't a baddie behavior per say. In my case, it is "I've been gone a long time. Dusting off cobwebs is strange. My enviornment is both strange and familiar."

As for the vote, I don't really know. Day 1 is hard. All the cases seem pretty weak. I generally see the good in everyone.

@bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:34 pm Also since some of my meta reads are a bit older who out of the old school players dislike being mafia more?

I seem to recall DF wasn’t a fan of being mafia and posted less when they rolled that way. But, besides them I’m drawing a blank

I am not superfan of being mafia. I am not good at the lying. Take that for what you will.

Wait, do Scotty and Sloonei actually not know bea?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:11 pm Wait, do Scotty and Sloonei actually not know bea?

I have met bea. My question was intended to help her get oriented in this game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:07 pm @bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

1) Most experience playing with: DF, DH, Splintsy, G-man, Golden, Kate, Lorab.

2) Mid-teir: Dr. Wgy, llamaloo, quin, scotty, sug, you.

3) New to me: Michelle, Axe, Vivax.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:12 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:11 pm Wait, do Scotty and Sloonei actually not know bea?

I have met bea. My question was intended to help her get oriented in this game.

Thank you for that. - It is appriciated!

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:07 pm @bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

1) Most experience playing with: DF, DH, Splintsy, G-man, Golden, Kate, Lorab.

2) Mid-teir: Dr. Wgy, llamaloo, quin, scotty, sug, you.

3) New to me: Michelle, Axe, Vivax.

Ebwop: sig - not sug. Apparently my phone is not a sig fan either. On the plus side - at least this one doesn't land me in divorce court like the typo of my hubby's name to "dork" does!

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:07 pm @bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

1) Most experience playing with: DF, DH, Splintsy, G-man, Golden, Kate, Lorab.

2) Mid-teir: Dr. Wgy, llamaloo, quin, scotty, sug, you.

3) New to me: Michelle, Axe, Vivax.

What are your first impressions of the new-to-you folks?

Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Have we met before this game?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:20 pm

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:07 pm @bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

1) Most experience playing with: DF, DH, Splintsy, G-man, Golden, Kate, Lorab.

2) Mid-teir: Dr. Wgy, llamaloo, quin, scotty, sug, you.

3) New to me: Michelle, Axe, Vivax.

What are your first impressions of the new-to-you folks?

Michelle gives me mo reason to worry about her yet.
Viv seems quiet.
Axe confuses me. Cant figure out if he is srrs, joking or on lsd.

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Hi Viv! The avi is actually Matt Smith's Doctor cosplay from a cat.

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:07 pm @bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

1) Most experience playing with: DF, DH, Splintsy, G-man, Golden, Kate, Lorab.

2) Mid-teir: Dr. Wgy, llamaloo, quin, scotty, sug, you.

3) New to me: Michelle, Axe, Vivax.

This list is 1) people who played at RM and it’s sister sites
2) people who were around for the syndicates earlier years
3) none of the above

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:24 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Have we met before this game?

I‘m not sure how you‘d conclude I was posting too safely, otherwise. Because it‘s an accurate way to read me sometimes.

If not, it won‘t matter after a while depending on which facet of insanity helps me make my posts at a given moment.

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:24 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Have we met before this game?

I‘m not sure how you‘d conclude I was posting too safely, otherwise. Because it‘s an accurate way to read me sometimes.

If not, it won‘t matter after a while depending on which facet of insanity helps me make my posts at a given moment.

Interesting.

The safety read was just a general sense I came up with when looking at your posts. What makes you say it’s accurate?

@Golden

Yes. I am most familiar with the people who played on sites before the syndicate.

I am unsure as to why you pointed this out Golden? Did you think I was avoiding the question of "Who are you most familiar with?"

Good news, I think I figured out who the masons are.

R O l E f I s h I N g

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:34 pm @Golden

Yes. I am most familiar with the people who played on sites before the syndicate.

I am unsure as to why you pointed this out Golden? Did you think I was avoiding the question of "Who are you most familiar with?"

No. It was just funny how perfect the breakdown was.

A no u moment here… but that felt like you were jumping at a shadow. Why did you read that post as having a hidden intent?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:36 pm Good news, I think I figured out who the masons are.

And you’re advertising this as opposed to keeping it to yourself why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:33 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:24 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Have we met before this game?

I‘m not sure how you‘d conclude I was posting too safely, otherwise. Because it‘s an accurate way to read me sometimes.

If not, it won‘t matter after a while depending on which facet of insanity helps me make my posts at a given moment.

Interesting.

The safety read was just a general sense I came up with when looking at your posts. What makes you say it’s accurate?

I drop off as scum activity-wise over the course of games.
I‘d agree that in this game I put in more effort to act diplomatically since most are new to me but I also assume them to be experienced.