Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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yea but mac didnt exactly articulate why either iircNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pmI started suspecting SPF when Mac mentioned it last night (I also voted SPF at the time for a short while before switching back to Dizzy.
You have more losses than wins as town too? How about you get a positive record before talking.
I just gave someiaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:17 pmyea but mac didnt exactly articulate why either iircNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pmI started suspecting SPF when Mac mentioned it last night (I also voted SPF at the time for a short while before switching back to Dizzy.
still kind of confused on the reasons
we both know that this isn't true, and i don't know why you're stretching the truth like this to make your point look stronger if you're a villager. i've posted multiple thoughts on this page alone that are clearly not copied from anyone elseanne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:14 pmevery thought has been similar, but even ignoring that... you saying i can "read you better than this" feels insincere given our historystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:13 pmlol what? am i supposed to not share observations if other people have posted similar thoughts? you can read me better than this
I mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:17 pmYou have more losses than wins as town too? How about you get a positive record before talking.
idk, I got less than three hours of sleep last night, and night beforestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pmhere's an example:Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 pmhow am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
i feel like i would have never in a million years pictured you using phrases like: "i feel like you should be townreading me tbh" or "so what's up with that?" as either alignment - you are usually very direct and assertive as either alignment but i feel like youre choosing your words very carefully in this game in a way that pings me as stilted/nervousEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:40 pm actually Nutella I feel like you should be town reading me tbh
like, in the last game we played you scum read me (though incorrectly) for being too serious
I guess I could see you not thinking of that this game cause it was wrong but I'm pretty sure you're aware I'm a lot more casual as town cause of that and irt my meta like that I'm decently towny imo
so what's up with that
i dont think this is a good reason to scumread you now that im typing it out tho
Town has been losing a lot, a lot of players just don't know each other, it's actually sad to see some players taking the losses hard. It'll balance out.
ive been here confbiasing anne/naa/mac (before mac it was like a pool of not mac but then i got reminded maybe mac) since sod and laughing at everybody with different reads and one of my only points of doubt is "could my entire scumteam just be town and right on spf" and then im like "lmao naaaaaah"staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pm NAA's reasoning to scumread me is weird since he's already played a game with me as T/T and knows that me overexplaining my reads isnt a wolftell
tepid maybe, but still natural. this is the first game ive played with you where some of your posts have pinged me as sounding like someone trying to do an imitation of youEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmidk, I got less than three hours of sleep last night, and night beforestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pmhere's an example:Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 pmhow am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
i feel like i would have never in a million years pictured you using phrases like: "i feel like you should be townreading me tbh" or "so what's up with that?" as either alignment - you are usually very direct and assertive as either alignment but i feel like youre choosing your words very carefully in this game in a way that pings me as stilted/nervousEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:40 pm actually Nutella I feel like you should be town reading me tbh
like, in the last game we played you scum read me (though incorrectly) for being too serious
I guess I could see you not thinking of that this game cause it was wrong but I'm pretty sure you're aware I'm a lot more casual as town cause of that and irt my meta like that I'm decently towny imo
so what's up with that
i dont think this is a good reason to scumread you now that im typing it out tho
maybe that or something
meh really I just play how I want
I'm pretty sure I was way more tepid in the 16/8 game too and the back end of poisonous, was I not?
I have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:17 pmYou have more losses than wins as town too? How about you get a positive record before talking.
I mean, your instinct to push responsibility for losses onto others actually comes through in your playstyle, how you try to be so polarized that you're basically an IC... That way you're never at fault.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmI have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:17 pmYou have more losses than wins as town too? How about you get a positive record before talking.
how's it an imitation if I'm usually direct and such but this game I'm not that?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmtepid maybe, but still natural. this is the first game ive played with you where some of your posts have pinged me as sounding like someone trying to do an imitation of youEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmidk, I got less than three hours of sleep last night, and night beforestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pmhere's an example:Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 pmhow am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 am
i dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
i feel like i would have never in a million years pictured you using phrases like: "i feel like you should be townreading me tbh" or "so what's up with that?" as either alignment - you are usually very direct and assertive as either alignment but i feel like youre choosing your words very carefully in this game in a way that pings me as stilted/nervousEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:40 pm actually Nutella I feel like you should be town reading me tbh
like, in the last game we played you scum read me (though incorrectly) for being too serious
I guess I could see you not thinking of that this game cause it was wrong but I'm pretty sure you're aware I'm a lot more casual as town cause of that and irt my meta like that I'm decently towny imo
so what's up with that
i dont think this is a good reason to scumread you now that im typing it out tho
maybe that or something
meh really I just play how I want
I'm pretty sure I was way more tepid in the 16/8 game too and the back end of poisonous, was I not?
i care more about your reads than your tone though
I'm usually not.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pmI mean, your instinct to push responsibility for losses onto others actually comes through in your playstyle, how you try to be so polarized that you're basically an IC... That way you're never at fault.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmI have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.
because your posts sound distinctly like theyre coming from Esooa, but a slightly scummier and more nervous version of EsooaEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pmhow's it an imitation if I'm usually direct and such but this game I'm not that?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmtepid maybe, but still natural. this is the first game ive played with you where some of your posts have pinged me as sounding like someone trying to do an imitation of youEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmidk, I got less than three hours of sleep last night, and night beforestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pmhere's an example:Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 pmhow am I tonally stiffstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 pmagreed that alexa and LC are townilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 am
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
i agree that occam's razor points to falcon just being a villager, although im reluctant to clear him specifically because of mac's claim because mac has a recent history of hard shielding and hard defending one of his partners and trying to go to endgame from it (that game where he was wolf with kane and twice shrunk). even so, i agree that there's a higher probability that falcon is town than not
i think that you're clearing anne, NAA, and esooa too easily. do you have any reasons to townread anne beyond her being "fine"? i agree that some of her posts on d1 were towny, but we're at a stage of the game where that isn't a good enough reason to townread someone. i also don't agree with you that NAA's reaction was towny
also, i fundamentally disagree with your reasoning for townreading the esooa slot and i think it's a weird thing to read into. we know for a fact that sloonei was very busy IRL throughout d1, and i think it's weird to assume that he would have magically gotten more free time and ability to post if he had rand'd wolf with jagged - that doesn't seem like a reasonable or logical assumption to make, and i think it's the type of reasoning that will get you burned incredibly easily. i also think that esooa sounds tonally stiff in a way that i have NEVER seen from her in a mafia game before, so i'm not sure what to do with that
i feel like i would have never in a million years pictured you using phrases like: "i feel like you should be townreading me tbh" or "so what's up with that?" as either alignment - you are usually very direct and assertive as either alignment but i feel like youre choosing your words very carefully in this game in a way that pings me as stilted/nervousEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:40 pm actually Nutella I feel like you should be town reading me tbh
like, in the last game we played you scum read me (though incorrectly) for being too serious
I guess I could see you not thinking of that this game cause it was wrong but I'm pretty sure you're aware I'm a lot more casual as town cause of that and irt my meta like that I'm decently towny imo
so what's up with that
i dont think this is a good reason to scumread you now that im typing it out tho
maybe that or something
meh really I just play how I want
I'm pretty sure I was way more tepid in the 16/8 game too and the back end of poisonous, was I not?
i care more about your reads than your tone though
OK, so you just play like garbage on this site then?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmI'm usually not.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pmI mean, your instinct to push responsibility for losses onto others actually comes through in your playstyle, how you try to be so polarized that you're basically an IC... That way you're never at fault.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmI have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.
Did you read what I actually said?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmOK, so you just play like garbage on this site then?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmI'm usually not.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pmI mean, your instinct to push responsibility for losses onto others actually comes through in your playstyle, how you try to be so polarized that you're basically an IC... That way you're never at fault.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmI have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.
It was only 3 words, how did you screw that up?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:27 pmDid you read what I actually said?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmOK, so you just play like garbage on this site then?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmI'm usually not.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pmI mean, your instinct to push responsibility for losses onto others actually comes through in your playstyle, how you try to be so polarized that you're basically an IC... That way you're never at fault.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmI have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.
Ah, I thought you were talking about being an IC, if you're talking about how you're delusional, then I agree.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:27 pmDid you read what I actually said?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmOK, so you just play like garbage on this site then?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 pmI'm usually not.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pmI mean, your instinct to push responsibility for losses onto others actually comes through in your playstyle, how you try to be so polarized that you're basically an IC... That way you're never at fault.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pmI have nothing to feel bad about, I play well, there's only 1 game where I feel like town L was my fault the rest of them I wasn't the issue.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pmI mean, I usually crush it on my home site as town, it's absolutely meaningless in the context of playing with new players all the time. I don't know why you go on feeling bad about yourself all the time, and then blaming others for your failures.
i feel like the game would be a little too easy if that was the exact scumteam tbqh, but wouldnt surprise me if that pool had 2/3iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:21 pmive been here confbiasing anne/naa/mac (before mac it was like a pool of not mac but then i got reminded maybe mac) since sod and laughing at everybody with different reads and one of my only points of doubt is "could my entire scumteam just be town and right on spf" and then im like "lmao naaaaaah"staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pm NAA's reasoning to scumread me is weird since he's already played a game with me as T/T and knows that me overexplaining my reads isnt a wolftell
Max 1/3 tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:29 pmi feel like the game would be a little too easy if that was the exact scumteam tbqh, but wouldnt surprise me if that pool had 2/3iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:21 pmive been here confbiasing anne/naa/mac (before mac it was like a pool of not mac but then i got reminded maybe mac) since sod and laughing at everybody with different reads and one of my only points of doubt is "could my entire scumteam just be town and right on spf" and then im like "lmao naaaaaah"staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pm NAA's reasoning to scumread me is weird since he's already played a game with me as T/T and knows that me overexplaining my reads isnt a wolftell
I'm literally actively trying to solve by giving my opinion on the game anytime I can.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:30 pm @NotAnAxehole @Lime Coke
I feel you're both derailing things here. If you're both town, then let's work on solving eh?
I don't think this PoE is winningcassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 pm I just opened Nook's iso and he thought Sloon was maf because busy town Sloon tries to me at least one read so yeah I may be townreading Esooa way too easily here
Tiers:
Illario, leertic, Falcon, Lime Coke
Iaafr, Nutella, Spf
Marmot
--POE
Dizzy
Wilgy
Esooa
NAA
Anne
Mac
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:31 pmI'm literally actively trying to solve by giving my opinion on the game anytime I can.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:30 pm @NotAnAxehole @Lime Coke
I feel you're both derailing things here. If you're both town, then let's work on solving eh?
am I going to have to find the games sloonei did literally nothing as town d1 because there's multiple iirccassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 pm I just opened Nook's iso and he thought Sloon was maf because busy town Sloon tries to me at least one read so yeah I may be townreading Esooa way too easily here
Tiers:
Illario, leertic, Falcon, Lime Coke
Iaafr, Nutella, Spf
Marmot
--POE
Dizzy
Wilgy
Esooa
NAA
Anne
Mac
yes
Nanook's read wasn't just doing nothing, it's that Sloonei asked for some info (maybe a summary) and proceeded to do nothing with that.Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:38 pmagree regarding Annenutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:36 pm anne seems really awkward here like she doesn't know how to look like she has any insight or contributions to the thread lol.
the spf/mac interaction was weird, i can see that as any configuration of alignment really
i feel like spf has been pretty low key so far and i don't have a clear view on what i think of her at all
esooa... idk. i go back and forth. sloonei was p much completely nai but my gut still says wolf, and esooa has been fairly neutral in my view so far. the fact iaafr townreads her does mean something to me though, iaafr is my single beacon of sanity in this thread where everyone else is taking crazy pills and pushing the least charitable interpretations of everything i say
regarding myself idk, I'm reading the game and then will post thoughts and people will probably go "wow esooa why'd we think you were mafia" or wtv
Who am I misreading in the top 7?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:38 pmI don't think this PoE is winningcassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 pm I just opened Nook's iso and he thought Sloon was maf because busy town Sloon tries to me at least one read so yeah I may be townreading Esooa way too easily here
Tiers:
Illario, leertic, Falcon, Lime Coke
Iaafr, Nutella, Spf
Marmot
--POE
Dizzy
Wilgy
Esooa
NAA
Anne
Mac
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:53 pmthis post pinged me because it's the type of post that i would make as a wolf that wants to contribute to the ongoing conversation about jagged's alignment without having any specific observations to make - it's a very filler post, which is totally fine, but it just felt a little awkward for nutella to sit out of the conversation about jay's alignment while still somewhat involving herself in it
im also a little concerned on how nutella went from: "this post from nanook is performative but maybe in a towny way" to putting nanook in her "Bad Vibes" tier on #266, and her push on cassandra on #316 pinged me when i was catching up as well. i do think that nutella is playing closer to her scum game than her town game so far and i guess i want to make that known, but if she is town then im pretty confident ill find hernutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:03 pmthis is performativeNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:50 pm Just so we're clear what's happening here i already gave my three and a half reads and now I'm going to shit post until I cap myself and come back 10-15 minutes before eod to naked vote and be sheeped and we may or may not hit mafia but it'll be worth it for the experience and the memories
might loop back to being towny but im not sure
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:31 amokay thanks, i like this postnutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:27 ami don't really know what to do with this high-volume form of nanook and there are ways i can read his performativity as town indicative, maybe even more likely so. the post about planning to hit postcap and drop off pinged me as something wolf nook might want to do as a kind of defense mechanism (use up posts and take himself off the table in a way). idk. i think he's using the posts well so far and not just spamming, and i liked that he picked up on jay's vibes being off, even if i don't agree with how hard he's pushing it since jay's vibes tend to be off d1 ime. like i don't think jay is seen as a mischop in general but it's conceivable to push him d1? idk i don't actually see the permutation of wolf nook and town jay here making sense. conceivably nook could be hellbussing jay as w/w for fun and profit but i think it's more likely nook is simply town who truly feels bad vibes from jaystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:14 amto be clear, i don't think there's a discrepancy in your progression on nanook - i just felt that your progression on him was a little underdeveloped/unclearnutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:54 am i think youre oversimplifying my reads, to me there was more nuance between these but maybe it wasn't clear, like the first nanook comment was a net negative albeit light, and you're renaming my meh tier to bad tier to exaggerate a perceived discrepancy which in my pov wasn't a discrepancy at all? i'm almost concerned that you're trying to paint my progression as less consistent than it truly was in the posts that are right there that you can read
yeah the more i think about it the more thats classic scum spf narrative tweaking
it is usually very easy to understand how your reads shift from point A to point B when youre town, whereas your reasoning to put nanook in your "meh" tier seemed more opaque, which made me worried that you were just going through the motions of having a progression instead of organically coming up with one, if you get me. i would actually find it helpful if you talked about your thoughts on nanook a little bit more (and ftr some of your posts on this page are making me wonder if youre just town)
also the renaming of the "meh" tier wasnt intentional but that probably is something i would do as mafia
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:01 pmcan you talk about your read on JJJ a bit more? i know youve mentioned that you felt that he has been "off" in some way (and i actually think that marmot nailed the description of why it might feel that way, because it is true that JJJ is focused more on posting individual observations than he is on dialoguing directly with other players), but im not sure if him being "off" is a reason to wolfread him within itself. im having a hard time getting a grasp on JJJ in this game in general, so i wanna talk about him more
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:07 pmfwiw i thought that marmot's initial reasoning to scumread you was among some of the towniest stuff that he's posted, because he pinpointed a specific observation about you that i hadnt found a way to put into words yet, which indicates to me that marmot was putting genuine thought into his read on you. i thought the way that he treated you from there came off as a bit binary/maybe a bit too focused on keeping you in his POE, thoughJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:59 pm I'm a bit torn on the rodent from the PNW. Holistically, I think his posts look fine -- his hunt seems to be organized in a way that recalls some of his other recent town efforts reasonably well. Conversely I sensed some opportunism in his treatment of me (e.g. suggesting I changed my approach somehow after pressure). I grant there's personal bias in that. It'd help to get someone else's perspective about Marmot's view of me.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:01 pmthe best answer i can give without going back to nanook's ISO is simply: "tone/motivation" - it felt like nanook had a drive to push his reads forward when he was posting earlier in the day, whereas it seems like NAA has lost that drive, even if i don't think that necessarily reflects on his alignmentJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:05 pmPerhaps a more productive way to frame this question:
What’s the fundamental difference with respect to interpreting alignment between Nanook and NAA in this Day 1?
i'm open to considering both NAA and nanook as wolves, but i suppose i'm looking for a reason to be suspicious of them that isn't simply: "they aren't towny", and i don't feel like anyone has provided that type of reasoning yet
Firstly, that would be NAI at best. Secondly, and this goes to everyone, I'd like it if we'd stop speculating about Sloonei's reasons for inactivity/needing a sub. I remember people doing that kind of thing to me when I had to sub out due to a mental health crisis, and I did not like that one bit, especially when people were still bringing it up more than a year after the fact. Besides, Esooa gives us more than enough to work with.Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:39 pmam I going to have to find the games sloonei did literally nothing as town d1 because there's multiple iirccassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 pm I just opened Nook's iso and he thought Sloon was maf because busy town Sloon tries to me at least one read so yeah I may be townreading Esooa way too easily here
Tiers:
Illario, leertic, Falcon, Lime Coke
Iaafr, Nutella, Spf
Marmot
--POE
Dizzy
Wilgy
Esooa
NAA
Anne
Mac
Esooa, Dizzy, SPF are my wolf picks right now. So we're not totally opposed on our reads.cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:46 pmWho am I misreading in the top 7?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:38 pmI don't think this PoE is winningcassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 pm I just opened Nook's iso and he thought Sloon was maf because busy town Sloon tries to me at least one read so yeah I may be townreading Esooa way too easily here
Tiers:
Illario, leertic, Falcon, Lime Coke
Iaafr, Nutella, Spf
Marmot
--POE
Dizzy
Wilgy
Esooa
NAA
Anne
Mac
Tbh after hydra game I'm very open to reconsidering my confident townreads but if illArtic is mafia I don't think I'm ever getting there reading illario's approach to Falcon this phase
@Dyslexicon what triggered this anyway? I feel like Sloonei at least did not post anything to make their alignment clear so why did you think Sloonei randed with Jay rather than just Jay?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
