Hogwarts Mafia - END

[nutella]

nutella and Jack are both being removed from the queue and escorted out of the premises by security since they kept their votes on Glorfindel through that entire shit.

Kara and Lunalee may not know better.

? I had no good reason to change. He didn't claim until too late, and I thought and still think LC is more likely town.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella and Jack are both being removed from the queue and escorted out of the premises by security since they kept their votes on Glorfindel through that entire shit.

Kara and Lunalee may not know better.

? I had no good reason to change. He didn't claim until too late, and I thought and still think LC is more likely town.

You had a very good reason to change, and you gave me a bunch of obtuse garbage when I shoved it in your face.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Dragon D. Luffy, does the elixir of life protect only from kills or from all forms of death (or some of them including lynches)? Answer privately if you prefer or whatever.

Only kills. No lynches.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

k so LC wasn't rescued by an elixir of life. *crosses out theory on scratch paper with bright red steve buscemi lipstick*

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Welcome back juliets. You're a civilian and your words are gospel.

[karavalenge]

karavalenge, could you please talk a little about the votes you made during the final stretch of Day 3? Thanks so much! Much appreciated! Wonderful!

Already said it. I came in with like thirty minutes left and saw it was 4-3, Colin vs Long Con. I decided to tie it since I believed Long was more likely to be mafia.

I checked again at about 5 minutes left and it had switched to Glorfindel vs Long Con. Same reasoning, I switched to Glorfindel because I believed they were more likely to be mafia.

I did not post any vote tags because I didn't want to make a fight over Hallow powers.

[nutella]

nutella and Jack are both being removed from the queue and escorted out of the premises by security since they kept their votes on Glorfindel through that entire shit.

Kara and Lunalee may not know better.

? I had no good reason to change. He didn't claim until too late, and I thought and still think LC is more likely town.

You had a very good reason to change, and you gave me a bunch of obtuse garbage when I shoved it in your face.

What good reason was that, enlighten me? I did like speed's last minute theory, but didn't care strongly enough to act on it and LC was already in the lead

[karavalenge]

So that means that he's alive either by dark magic or a Deathly Hallow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nutella and Jack are both being removed from the queue and escorted out of the premises by security since they kept their votes on Glorfindel through that entire shit.

Kara and Lunalee may not know better.

? I had no good reason to change. He didn't claim until too late, and I thought and still think LC is more likely town.

You had a very good reason to change, and you gave me a bunch of obtuse garbage when I shoved it in your face.

What good reason was that, enlighten me? I did like speed's last minute theory, but didn't care strongly enough to act on it and LC was already in the lead

He said something that makes no damned sense if he is a mafioso who cannot lie. I'm not rehashing it, because the host hated it (understandably).

"He hates being mafia" is an absolute crap counterargument. It's horrid. Your argument was horrid. Your argument was horrid because you didn't believe in it. You believed in leaving your vote on Glorfindel.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

karavalenge, could you please talk a little about the votes you made during the final stretch of Day 3? Thanks so much! Much appreciated! Wonderful!

Already said it. I came in with like thirty minutes left and saw it was 4-3, Colin vs Long Con. I decided to tie it since I believed Long was more likely to be mafia.

I checked again at about 5 minutes left and it had switched to Glorfindel vs Long Con. Same reasoning, I switched to Glorfindel because I believed they were more likely to be mafia.

I did not post any vote tags because I didn't want to make a fight over Hallow powers.

How do you feel about those three players right now as we emerge from a lynchless finish?

[nutella]

nutella and Jack are both being removed from the queue and escorted out of the premises by security since they kept their votes on Glorfindel through that entire shit.

Kara and Lunalee may not know better.

? I had no good reason to change. He didn't claim until too late, and I thought and still think LC is more likely town.

You had a very good reason to change, and you gave me a bunch of obtuse garbage when I shoved it in your face.

What good reason was that, enlighten me? I did like speed's last minute theory, but didn't care strongly enough to act on it and LC was already in the lead

He said something that makes no damned sense if he is a mafioso who cannot lie. I'm not rehashing it, because the host hated it (understandably).

"He hates being mafia" is an absolute crap counterargument. It's horrid. Your argument was horrid. Your argument was horrid because you didn't believe in it. You believed in leaving your vote on Glorfindel.

It's true and I believed it.

[speedchuck]

I believe Nutella. Not caught up, just reacting.

Asked the host and elixir of life doesn't stop lynches

[Quin]

I think LC is Mafia based on that result. I say we just lynch him again.

Yes Taco me.

Or if our Vig can target him tonight, that'd be cool too.

oi i called dibs on deciding who the vig targets tonight

wait your turn

why them tho

Scum 3J saved scum Colin.

so dum

I did save Glorfindel tho

he's not clear either.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

I need to say this here, not just to Dunya, because it is going to affect my play for the rest of the game.

I threw out a few jokes about it but I’m actually really mad. I have something like an 8 game losing streak going as town. I don’t remember the last game I won as town but I’m pretty sure I died before D3 and it was in 2017. I keep getting to lylo and fucking it up. Which is fine. It’s just a game and I earned most of those losses. Still had a lot of fun. It makes me hungry for a town win, though.

And here I stand. D3. Two scum dead already. Got some strong town reads. This might be it.

And then Timmer threatens to quit to avoid lynch. And then Glor claims town to avoid lynch. And it just poisons the whole thing. I can’t concentrate on if Nutella or Speed or Jay is bad, what a scummy or a townie reaction to this is. All I can think about is that this game is down the toilet for me. Not cause I messed up. That’d be fine. But because my teammates cheated.

Timmer slipped. Got upset. Whatever. Shit happens. But Glor is standing somewhere on his high horse thinking he’s better than me for never telling a lie when he’s actually pissing all over the game. It’s not ethical. It’s fucking rude.

Spoilering this cause I don’t want to actually talk about this any further and derail the game.

[DharmaHelper]

Folks, I have a warning to make.

I have noticed some people are threatening to quit the site if they are voted for.

While this is not explicitely against this game's rules, it goes completely against the spirit of the game. It's similar to making real life bets on the game's outcome, or posting screenshots of your role card.

Do not bring real life into a mafia game. Ever. Doing so breaks the fictional scenario that is built by the game, and which allows people to see each others as innocent or bad. If you intend to quit the site depending on the game's outcome, that's only your business, and nobody else's.

I will not punish anyone for this now because it's not stated in the rules, but compensation will be done into the game's setup to counteract the effect of this. Furthermore, if it happens again, I will modkill the people who are doing it.

FInally, if something is happening in the game that makes you have bad feelings about the site and about other players, you should really contact @dunya , our game facilitator, about it. She is here exactly to keep your real life grief from getting the best of you and affecting yours and other people's enjoyment of the game.

Well I feel like shit so I'm gonna spend the Night doing other stuff unless @'d or w/e. Much love.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

he's not clear either.

orly?

[Quin]

he's not clear either.

orly?

yeh. rly.

[DharmaHelper]

Oh welcome back Juliets I guess. Someone who knows how to reign me in and mellow me out. Much needed.

[juliets]

Oh wow I'm back in the game though I am sorry Glorf felt the need to withdraw. I've been skimming along but not paying as much attention as a player. I need to re-read EOD day 3 and then I'll try some reads. I may not give reads till day starts again though because someone killed my friend juliets 1 in the night.

While I'm thinking about it I think I know a way 3 people could have died on one night. This is one of the magical creatures:

[Hippogriff]: Strong and proud creature that is a mix between a horse and an eagle. It will protect its owner, reflexively killing any students who use negative abilities on them during the night. However, it won’t stop those abilities itself.

If one of the now-dead targeted some one with a role block or any other negative ability and the target had a hippogriff it seems like the targeter would have been killed. Maybe I'm overlooking something but the way I read it it's possible.

OK on to re-reading.

linki mellow down with me DH

[dunya]

Spoiler: show

I need to say this here, not just to Dunya, because it is going to affect my play for the rest of the game.

I threw out a few jokes about it but I’m actually really mad. I have something like an 8 game losing streak going as town. I don’t remember the last game I won as town but I’m pretty sure I died before D3 and it was in 2017. I keep getting to lylo and fucking it up. Which is fine. It’s just a game and I earned most of those losses. Still had a lot of fun. It makes me hungry for a town win, though.

And here I stand. D3. Two scum dead already. Got some strong town reads. This might be it.

And then Timmer threatens to quit to avoid lynch. And then Glor claims town to avoid lynch. And it just poisons the whole thing. I can’t concentrate on if Nutella or Speed or Jay is bad, what a scummy or a townie reaction to this is. All I can think about is that this game is down the toilet for me. Not cause I messed up. That’d be fine. But because my teammates cheated.

Timmer slipped. Got upset. Whatever. Shit happens. But Glor is standing somewhere on his high horse thinking he’s better than me for never telling a lie when he’s actually pissing all over the game. It’s not ethical. It’s fucking rude.

Spoilering this cause I don’t want to actually talk about this any further and derail the game.

just know that I don't appreciate this post after DDL's post as well as mine, Jack, and I would appreciate it if everyone sent their frustrations through PM to me or DDL. Thanks.

[Quin]

Oh wow I'm back in the game though I am sorry Glorf felt the need to withdraw. I've been skimming along but not paying as much attention as a player. I need to re-read EOD day 3 and then I'll try some reads. I may not give reads till day starts again though because someone killed my friend juliets 1 in the night.

While I'm thinking about it I think I know a way 3 people could have died on one night. This is one of the magical creatures:

[Hippogriff]: Strong and proud creature that is a mix between a horse and an eagle. It will protect its owner, reflexively killing any students who use negative abilities on them during the night. However, it won’t stop those abilities itself.

If one of the now-dead targeted some one with a role block or any other negative ability and the target had a hippogriff it seems like the targeter would have been killed. Maybe I'm overlooking something but the way I read it it's possible.

OK on to re-reading.

linki mellow down with me DH

all hail

[DharmaHelper]

Good catch with the Hippogriff JC. We'll see if that pans out and the kills narrow down to normal or what.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Looking for data of interest in relation to Glorfindel being a civilian and the way he's been handled throughout the game.

Glorfindel's game has been 90% talking about how great JJJ is, 10% sort of thinking Quin might maybe be bad, and 10% defending against Jack with a crisp almond OMGUS flavour. That's not what I remember Glorf's game being, and it's making me suspicious.

Glorfindel I feel like you're usually Civ, and I can't remember a game where you were bad. Are there one or two games that you have drawn Mafia roles that I could reference? JJJ the mnemonic Mafia memorizer could answer that as well I bet.

A bit icky, just because the "90%" assertion isn't a fair representation. Glorfindel spoke well of me on a few occasions and they may have been the most salient, but it wasn't the entirety of his post history.

Oh, I was too late anyway. Oh well. Not much I could do against a solid "I'm Civ" from Glorfindel, right?

Sorry Long Con. You were a terrible lynch option.

No lynch option is more terrible than Glorfindel, though.

This makes it look like LC perceives Glorfindel as a competitor who he failed to out-live for a reason he doesn't care for (Glorfindel claiming civilian). Given that it was clear at this point that Glorfindel is a civilian, I don't understand why this is portrayed in that competitive light. If Long Con is a civilian then they are innocent bros, so?

I have a pretty bad feeling about Glorfindel. He hasn't said anything that that makes him look like a "lock town" who is trying to find baddies. Day 1, Glorf voted for Quin bacause of his "tone." He stayed on Quin while completely ignoring the Owner vs. Turnip Head trains, which ultimately led to TH, a civilian, getting lynched.
He ignored the suggestion for everyone to post "I am town" for a truth checker to have more to work with.
He replied with this sad, emotional plea to Colin's suggestion that we ask Glorf if he's bad:

So who’s going to ask Glorfindel if he’s bad?

To be honest, this whole mess had completely slipped my mind. It’s hard for me to know what to do here - do I refuse to answer and get lynched by a rabid Town or answer it and put a target on my back Night 1? Either way, I guess it suggests a short stay for me this game...

*rainbow list amendment, if Glorf is bad, I don't think Colin is too*
It takes until day 3 for him to throw out some reads. He town reads Jay and MacDougal, and scum-reads Long Con, Quin, JackofHearts, Nutella, and Epi The post here is quite long, and he uses a lot of " Doesn't look genuine," and "I'm not convinced language," which is okay for some, but to me it looks like he left room in almost every read for him to backpedal if needed.

Reason I'm okay with pushing a Glorf lynch is because if he is town, he won't let us lynch him without saying so. Otherwise, it's day 3, and we will have finally lynched our first scum.

This could be problematic for a different reason. This came relatively late in Day 3 (a bit less than 3 hours remaining), and as such there is potential for opportunism. Luna hadn't said much to this point about Glorfindel as a suspect. I'll have to look back to see where the Glorf wagon stood at this point, if anywhere.

3J hasn't been killed yet because Glorfindel is bad and won't let his teammates kill him.

Silly on two counts -- Glorfindel would probably love to remove me from the equation if he is bad given how much he clearly respects the threat I pose. Also, that's the reason I'm not dead yet ignores the fact that I hardly ever get killed early. It's just not commonplace. I think Quin is aware because he's one of the people who has kept me alive for ages as a bad guy.

Jack builds a multi-scum theory based upon Glorfindel with the assertion that Glorf was "worried" (seems bogus).

[Quin]

keeping 3J alive when you're bad is like a mafia novelty

you do it once so you can be like 'ha, yeah i did that' but you kinda just do whatever you want after that

[nutella]

he's not clear either.

orly?

yeh. rly.

Preach

[Jackofhearts2005]

iF i GeT lYnChEd I aM nEvEr pLaYiNg AgAiN

I love and appreciate you.

[nutella]

Oh wow I'm back in the game though I am sorry Glorf felt the need to withdraw. I've been skimming along but not paying as much attention as a player. I need to re-read EOD day 3 and then I'll try some reads. I may not give reads till day starts again though because someone killed my friend juliets 1 in the night.

While I'm thinking about it I think I know a way 3 people could have died on one night. This is one of the magical creatures:

[Hippogriff]: Strong and proud creature that is a mix between a horse and an eagle. It will protect its owner, reflexively killing any students who use negative abilities on them during the night. However, it won’t stop those abilities itself.

If one of the now-dead targeted some one with a role block or any other negative ability and the target had a hippogriff it seems like the targeter would have been killed. Maybe I'm overlooking something but the way I read it it's possible.

OK on to re-reading.

linki mellow down with me DH

Holy crap I can't believe we missed that. Dead mafs make so much more sense now

[juliets]

Jay, are you looking at how Glorf has been handled throughout the game because you are suspicious of those who suspected him? The post didn't say that but it was implied in some of your thoughts so I just want to clarify. (I understand the point about LC after the lynch is a little different.)

[timmer]

pot is legal now. I should have remembered this yesterday.

[nutella]

pot is legal now. I should have remembered this yesterday.

Only after you're done mashing up infected flesh for the day...

[nutella]

that was supposed to be an OT tag not a quote oops

[JaggedJimmyJay]

he's not clear either.

orly?

yeh. rly.

Preach

is this the game where Glorfindel overhauls his entire moral fabric

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay, are you looking at how Glorf has been handled throughout the game because you are suspicious of those who suspected him? The post didn't say that but it was implied in some of your thoughts so I just want to clarify. (I understand the point about LC after the lynch is a little different.)

Kinda. I found the case(s) raised against Glorfindel to be mostly bunk, because they were heavily oriented toward Glorfindel's high praise for me. So I looked back through everyone's posts for Glorfindel-related stuff and highlighted a few things I thought warranted mention. Ideally they'll be addressed.

[Quin]

he's not clear either.

orly?

yeh. rly.

Preach

is this the game where Glorfindel overhauls his entire moral fabric

Whatever reputation Glorf has irregardless, no mechanical confirmation = no town clear. That's not to say his word doesn't have value, but he's not immune to scrutiny.

[nutella]

What Quin said. I'm as familiar with glorf's truth meta as anyone but taking it as a 100% townfirm at this point is just stupid. Especially since he waited til he was almost lynched to do it, and then immediately left the game. Like I said, he hates being mafia, and he sure was frustrated today regardless.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

irregardless

Spoiler: show

[Quin]

irregardless

Spoiler: show

bitch i will cut you

[JaggedJimmyJay]

irregardless

Spoiler: show

bitch i will cut you

I am not inspired by your uninspired thread. Uninspiringly, I might not even be inspired to make an inspired inspiration of a read such that my readers would find it inspiring.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

threat even

[DharmaHelper]

Hey so lets lynch Long Con again tomorrow and see if the mafia have any hallows.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Can’t unring the bell. Juliets is confirmed town to me.

I can see town and scum motivation for Jay, Speed, Nutella and Quin’s reactions.

Jay probably not w/w with Speed, Nutella. Speed probably not w/w with Jay, LC. Quin maybe not w/w with Jay either.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

How are house points awarded today?

[ColinIsCool]

I didn’t see I was dead in the first post so I’m assuming I lived

Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.

Timmer is BAE. This is exactly how it feels to be little ol’ me

[ColinIsCool]

In any event, Glorfindel being a civilian opens up at least one decent analytic window. I don't think the case against him was ever very good in the first place (have you HEARD that GLORFINDEL said all those NICE things about JAY?!?! Like WHAT is he up to?), and yet it never quite seemed to go away. I'll take a peep later.

Maybe I’m an idgit but I legit don’t even get where it came from, it just appeared out of thin air on the readback. Some1 expln plz ?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I didn’t see I was dead in the first post so I’m assuming I lived

Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.

Timmer is BAE. This is exactly how it feels to be little ol’ me

I don't understand your post, Syndicate user ColinIsCool. Please restate in another way. What is exactly how it feels to be little ol' you?

[ColinIsCool]

I think LC is Mafia based on that result. I say we just lynch him again.

Yes Taco me.

Or if our Vig can target him tonight, that'd be cool too.

oi i called dibs on deciding who the vig targets tonight

wait your turn

why them tho

Scum 3J saved scum Colin.

Jay knows full well that I am not worth saving

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can see town and scum motivation for Jay, Speed, Nutella and Quin’s reactions.

Why, why, why, and why?

Jay probably not w/w with Speed, Nutella.

Why and why?

Speed probably not w/w with Jay, LC. Quin maybe not w/w with Jay either.

Why, why, and why?

[ColinIsCool]

I didn’t see I was dead in the first post so I’m assuming I lived

Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.

Timmer is BAE. This is exactly how it feels to be little ol’ me

I don't understand your post, Syndicate user ColinIsCool. Please restate in another way. What is exactly how it feels to be little ol' you?

He put into words why LC gave me the jeebies in the phase. Total 180 of his opinion in an opportunistic manner, and it’s good to know I wasn’t just no u-ing

[JaggedJimmyJay]

He put into words why LC gave me the jeebies in the phase. Total 180 of his opinion in an opportunistic manner, and it’s good to know I wasn’t just no u-ing

oh, k.

Whaddya think of LC now in light of the things?

[ColinIsCool]

k so LC wasn't rescued by an elixir of life. *crosses out theory on scratch paper with bright red steve buscemi lipstick*

Jjj confirmed town. Adam Sandler’s new Netflix special is WAY funnier than it has any right being if anyone wants a rec