Re: Hot Fuzz Mafia [Day 5]
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:25 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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That's not true. Town can win by not lynching town, in fact it's the #1 way to win for TownPorscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:40 pmfalcon you know you're gonna have to be put down at some point rightfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmI sheep all the time, whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pmAnne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
well looking at the flips it appears this is already not the case for this gamefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:39 pmThat's not true. Town can win by not lynching town, in fact it's the #1 way to win for TownPorscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:40 pmfalcon you know you're gonna have to be put down at some point rightfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmI sheep all the time, whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pmAnne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
There's no need to throw good money after bad.Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:40 pmwell looking at the flips it appears this is already not the case for this gamefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:39 pmThat's not true. Town can win by not lynching town, in fact it's the #1 way to win for TownPorscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:40 pmfalcon you know you're gonna have to be put down at some point rightfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmI sheep all the time, whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pmAnne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
Aye, and that's even what I said you failed to do. Find town. Don't see what you are arguing against.Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:42 pmNeon continues to follow the same thought process she follows every game and has explained therefore Neon is wolfDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pmAnne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
Solid.
I don't look for scum the way you think I should. That's not how I play. I don't look for pairings. I don't look for scummy behavior. That's not how I play everything is fakable I look for town of I can't find you Town your my PoE. I can't find you Town. You feel bad. You are PoE.
I mean, what would the point be?Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmThis is weird... why do you not want to take yourself out of the PoE if you are town? Lmao.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:00 pmSwap Neon with Nook and I'm in agreement.
After digesting Porscha's push on me at start of day, I am in agreement that it's too straight forward for a wolf. When I flip the chance of them getting autoyeeted I think prevents a play like that.
Porscha goes at the back of PoE for it.
you do, but normally there's more poke and investigatory process in who you sheep I feel.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmI sheep all the time, whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pmAnne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
yeah? like what lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:42 pmThere's no need to throw good money after bad.Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:40 pmwell looking at the flips it appears this is already not the case for this gamefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:39 pmThat's not true. Town can win by not lynching town, in fact it's the #1 way to win for TownPorscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:40 pmfalcon you know you're gonna have to be put down at some point rightfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmI sheep all the time, whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pmAnne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
I'm Town, and the only thing scummy about my play re: meta is I slacked off on D2.
That's a hawt garbage reason to SR me, as it's a meta read that ignores other meta signs I've been showing that clearly indicate that I'm town.
Falcon mentioned here between two players I'd say are cleared is odd. I can't tell if Jack is shielding or trying to buddy up Falcon. This is also the first real read on Porscha and I think it's a pretty rough look. The wiggle room that this read provides is bad.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:10 am I have a really stupid reason to townread Nanook and I'm not saying it out loud in case it's wrong.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:20 am Seanzie is another player like Falcon and Creature that I feel like I can often be like "Oh, that's just town Seanzie."
I have more experience with the former two, though.
There's a whole mess of players I have meh reasons to townread and no reasons to scumread that can be summed up like "I never yeet this slot over Lily/Lucy unless something changes."
Porscha has recently moved into the former group by mirroring my Creature read. This is a much stronger reason if Creature turns out to be a wolf.
Meh, this is bait.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:58 amSo....a red on Ruri/Schia.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:18 pm I have a...its not really a difference check, idk what to call it, anyways I have mech info that there's at least one mafia between ruri/schia/falcon, I think its probably ruri
Wish Ruri would show up to fullclaim but that was always a long shot.
Still wanna yeet Lily. One time, Sloonei had a red check on 5 players and we burned through them and they were all town and iirc, so was Sloonei. It was...not ideal.
heheheheh, Falcon's town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:10 am Fyi, I'm not hard shielding Falcon at this point. But he is the easiest to read of that trio by far and I have a townlean on him and if he really is town, we should be able to know in a phase or two so it's never worth shrug maybe red check yeeting Falcon.
This is in Obscurities favor. I don't read this as a W talking to a teammate.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:24 pm@obscurity
Fucking why?
Look at my exchanges with Sabi and tell me we're paired. She was my very first suspect and I pointed out scummy thing they said that nobody else did. I'm in my town meta. Some of the votes on me are nonsense gut reads but I expect better from your slot.
Actually this is kinda a bad look for Nook too.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:40 pmI don't think wolf Nanook pulls that stuff in the middle of the day to break things up. The only time that ever happens is if he's exactly wolves with Lily.obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:36 pm Yeah this is hard, because whenever I entertain Lily town worlds, I struggle to find other suspects that I feel strongly about, like, It's true that when I open Jack ISO and stuff I don't actually find him suspect. But I did see vague sparks of Lily town in our last interaction.
I may just vote NANOOK tbh I don't find him towny at all.
Tell me about Anne.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:22 pm Aye, that's it for Jack.
I think Neon looks slightly better than Porscha when considering the ISO.
Anne looks bad. Porscha looks bad. Shia I think looks bad? but that's because I think he was accepting the yeet on those interactions. Neon looks bad, but not as bad as I saw Obscurity make it out to be earlier. Obscurity looks good. Falcon looks good. I stand by Creature/Pyxxy/Seanzie clear on this.
Also obscuritySeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:23 pmTell me about Anne.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:22 pm Aye, that's it for Jack.
I think Neon looks slightly better than Porscha when considering the ISO.
Anne looks bad. Porscha looks bad. Shia I think looks bad? but that's because I think he was accepting the yeet on those interactions. Neon looks bad, but not as bad as I saw Obscurity make it out to be earlier. Obscurity looks good. Falcon looks good. I stand by Creature/Pyxxy/Seanzie clear on this.
I dunno, but they're there....somewherePorscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:01 pmyeah? like what lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:42 pmThere's no need to throw good money after bad.Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:40 pmwell looking at the flips it appears this is already not the case for this gamefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:39 pmThat's not true. Town can win by not lynching town, in fact it's the #1 way to win for TownPorscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:40 pmfalcon you know you're gonna have to be put down at some point rightfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 pmI sheep all the time, whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:25 pm
Anne by merit of claim dispute with Nook and the odd vote holster I pointed out previously. Also just a feeling of meh on the slot for two cycles. Anne didn't really contribute to the Jack yeet but was cool watching and putting the vote in later on.
Neon by merit of being generally wolfy this cycle. Notice how Neon's reason for voting me isn't "he's aligned with Jack" more so "he's not a TR". It just feels like Neon had to come up with something without actually putting anything into it. Plus there was that earlier qualm with Neons TR list being super weak opening up a strange reverse player soup.
And I mean, Falcon's just now sheeping Seanzie without actually solving himself. I still argue that Falcon not solving the game is a hard wolf tell.
I'd put you, Shia after that, then Nook maybe, but I really think that it's just town Nook.
I'm Town, and the only thing scummy about my play re: meta is I slacked off on D2.
That's a hawt garbage reason to SR me, as it's a meta read that ignores other meta signs I've been showing that clearly indicate that I'm town.
Anne holstering vote on Jack yeet is sketchy. They didn't really push, but would be damned if they didn't get that wagon credit I feel.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:23 pmTell me about Anne.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:22 pm Aye, that's it for Jack.
I think Neon looks slightly better than Porscha when considering the ISO.
Anne looks bad. Porscha looks bad. Shia I think looks bad? but that's because I think he was accepting the yeet on those interactions. Neon looks bad, but not as bad as I saw Obscurity make it out to be earlier. Obscurity looks good. Falcon looks good. I stand by Creature/Pyxxy/Seanzie clear on this.
It feels like Jack was using Obscurity to make fake reads. It doesn't look aligned.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:24 pmAlso obscuritySeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:23 pmTell me about Anne.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:22 pm Aye, that's it for Jack.
I think Neon looks slightly better than Porscha when considering the ISO.
Anne looks bad. Porscha looks bad. Shia I think looks bad? but that's because I think he was accepting the yeet on those interactions. Neon looks bad, but not as bad as I saw Obscurity make it out to be earlier. Obscurity looks good. Falcon looks good. I stand by Creature/Pyxxy/Seanzie clear on this.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:10 pmheheheheh, Falcon's town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:10 am Fyi, I'm not hard shielding Falcon at this point. But he is the easiest to read of that trio by far and I have a townlean on him and if he really is town, we should be able to know in a phase or two so it's never worth shrug maybe red check yeeting Falcon.
I mean, there was an entire day cycle to interface with them. I get it because I was busy for most of the early cycle, but I don't think the post capped player who expressed an sr voting you should get a reaction like this.
You would have had to go toe-to-toe with me after just having had a game where I thought creature was town, but didn't hardshield them... Maybe you would have won, but... idk... I can be pretty persistant.
Yeah, I've gone toe-to-toe with Mac and SPF and Alison before as scum and almost gotten all 3 killed (mac and spf only didnt die because they were PRs and Alison did die) so I'm not really scared at all lol
Why not?
Feels like there's a Maf amongst the lead wagons for sure w/ that vote spread
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:00 pmMac claimed PR and died because of it. I'm town and Anne is my second strongest townread.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:58 pmI'm feeling lazy and I'm mostly sheeping this, roughly Jack -> anne.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:30 am I think if they are both town the team is exactly lucy, seanzie, Jack +1. I think Those 3 contain 2 wolves anyway.
My POE is
Jack
Seanzie
Lucy
Sabi
Anne
And I think it's 3 wolves most likely.
If you're town, stop being lazy. I've been high on your towngame in specchats and post games but here, I don't see you doing anything to catch wolves.
Well Creature is alive so?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:40 pmI can't even tell ya how many times I've heard Maf justify mislynches based off dead Town observations.
At least 3 times, but actually way more