The Syndicate

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:11 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:08 pm Why is the vote distribution like this isn’t eod soon

Anyone with 0 votes at EoD are placed in the elimination pool. Mafia will decide which of those players is eliminated.

@Jackofhearts2005 I think you need to chill, having the two loose ends be Wilgy & jpic is fine.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 pm Also I'm never voting to save hk here LOL like what.

Enrique, you really think that Wilgy is more worthy of a save than Jack?

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 pm Also I'm never voting to save hk here LOL like what.

Enrique, you really think that Wilgy is more worthy of a save than Jack?

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:29 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 pm Also I'm never voting to save hk here LOL like what.

Enrique, you really think that Wilgy is more worthy of a save than Jack?

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

You weren't, but you did specifically say you're never voting to save me, the guy who's working hard to solve people, making good posts, and generally not being wolfy. So you coming out and saying you're never voting to save me strikes me as incredibly wolfy.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:30 pm Did Tony replace in or what?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:30 pm Did Tony replace in or what?

Yes I’m here tell me what’s going on asterisk I’m leaving now to go eat pie

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:30 pm Did Tony replace in or what?

Yes I’m here tell me what’s going on asterisk I’m leaving now to go eat pie

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:29 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 pm Also I'm never voting to save hk here LOL like what.

Enrique, you really think that Wilgy is more worthy of a save than Jack?

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

You weren't, but you did specifically say you're never voting to save me, the guy who's working hard to solve people, making good posts, and generally not being wolfy. So you coming out and saying you're never voting to save me strikes me as incredibly wolfy.

Ok so you're saying that if you're town, misreading you is scummy. Got it. I'll just pretend that makes sense and doesn't look like you're looking for reasons to suspect people.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:29 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 pm Also I'm never voting to save hk here LOL like what.

Enrique, you really think that Wilgy is more worthy of a save than Jack?

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

You weren't, but you did specifically say you're never voting to save me, the guy who's working hard to solve people, making good posts, and generally not being wolfy. So you coming out and saying you're never voting to save me strikes me as incredibly wolfy.

Ok so you're saying that if you're town, misreading you is scummy. Got it. I'll just pretend that makes sense and doesn't look like you're looking for reasons to suspect people.

lol ok whatever. why do you have a wolf read on me?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:48 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:29 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:13 pm Also I'm never voting to save hk here LOL like what.

Enrique, you really think that Wilgy is more worthy of a save than Jack?

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

You weren't, but you did specifically say you're never voting to save me, the guy who's working hard to solve people, making good posts, and generally not being wolfy. So you coming out and saying you're never voting to save me strikes me as incredibly wolfy.

Ok so you're saying that if you're town, misreading you is scummy. Got it. I'll just pretend that makes sense and doesn't look like you're looking for reasons to suspect people.

lol ok whatever. why do you have a wolf read on me?

Aside from the above?
I don't trust the fact that you pushed so hard on ted for shitty reasons from d0. You tried to back up your argument by saying he was being defensive and deflecting, but you couldn't provide evidence for that. You pushed him and called him a lock wolf and were unwilling to reconsider your read on him until he was dead, and then after he flipped town you just moved on to the next person as if nothing happened. Your reads didn't change at all. I see no progression from you. You're just going down the line, locking in on easy targets and trying to get them executed. You tried going after Jack, and backed off after the slightest pushback.
Your turn, explain your read on me please.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:22 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:30 pm Did Tony replace in or what?

Yes I’m here tell me what’s going on asterisk I’m leaving now to go eat pie

Pie day was yesterday bro

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:07 am

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:51 pm Btw @Guillotine @Epignosis I'd be wary of taking certain actions such as gifting mana to other players for as long as you have those thopters on you. Not sure what they do but it's a possible tracking mechanism.

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/107/thopt ... mw_MTGWiki

they've been "permanently" marked so until the marker flips, they should holster? mmm. don't like that plan.

Enrique wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:46 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:07 am

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:51 pm Btw @Guillotine @Epignosis I'd be wary of taking certain actions such as gifting mana to other players for as long as you have those thopters on you. Not sure what they do but it's a possible tracking mechanism.

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/107/thopt ... mw_MTGWiki

they've been "permanently" marked so until the marker flips, they should holster? mmm. don't like that plan.

There's a confusion here btw. Epi and Guill both got marked (if lynched make someone vig), Mac and Guill claimed to receive thopters (no idea what they do or how long they last, but Urist's warning applies), Guill got additionally cursed / post-limited. These all appear to be separate things.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:55 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:42 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:20 pm Mac is mafia. Dont vote today for that guy.

Hollowkatt is too.

I’ve been marked and i can only post 10 times today. So im gonna dip out.

I'm not tho

I absolutely am not mafia. I thought Marmot and Epi were outed at EOD but clearly not. Good show.

I received two artifacts overnight. I received no additional mana so was unable to boost my thingy. One of my artifacts adds two votes to a named player and that player is Guillo. The other is a thopter and I have nfi what it does.

I received a similar artifact, my vote counts as three if I vote for Macdougall.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:58 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:48 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:29 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:20 pm

Hi wolf! Sorry about your rand

See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

You weren't, but you did specifically say you're never voting to save me, the guy who's working hard to solve people, making good posts, and generally not being wolfy. So you coming out and saying you're never voting to save me strikes me as incredibly wolfy.

Ok so you're saying that if you're town, misreading you is scummy. Got it. I'll just pretend that makes sense and doesn't look like you're looking for reasons to suspect people.

lol ok whatever. why do you have a wolf read on me?

Aside from the above?
I don't trust the fact that you pushed so hard on ted for shitty reasons from d0. You tried to back up your argument by saying he was being defensive and deflecting, but you couldn't provide evidence for that. You pushed him and called him a lock wolf and were unwilling to reconsider your read on him until he was dead, and then after he flipped town you just moved on to the next person as if nothing happened. Your reads didn't change at all. I see no progression from you. You're just going down the line, locking in on easy targets and trying to get them executed. You tried going after Jack, and backed off after the slightest pushback.
Your turn, explain your read on me please.

Wow that's incredibly reductive and wrong.

Who's the easy target I'm locked onto now that I'm trying to get executed? You don't get to count there. I don't think I ever had a strong push on Jack, nor did I have them as a strong wolf read.
I had some concerns, he and I chatted, and actually formed a bit of a core yesterday (yes I walked that back with some cold feet, but then today has been better so whatever) so I dunno which HK you're reading but it's not an HK that's in this game.

Why do I wolf read you?
because you're less town than Me, Mac, Epi, Guillotine, TSP, Jack, Falcon, LC. You're about the same level of not town as 112 (which is one reason I wolf read you, your handling of that slot has been atrocious) and wigly. Slightly less town than JPIC and Enrique.

I don't see lots of solving, and I think your handling of 112 and that slot is super duper bad.
Basically, you're just not town enough to get a town read.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:58 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:48 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:32 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:29 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:26 pm
See I don't think a town reaction to "I'm not saving you" is to snarkily call me a wolf. I wasn't even speaking to you.

You weren't, but you did specifically say you're never voting to save me, the guy who's working hard to solve people, making good posts, and generally not being wolfy. So you coming out and saying you're never voting to save me strikes me as incredibly wolfy.

Ok so you're saying that if you're town, misreading you is scummy. Got it. I'll just pretend that makes sense and doesn't look like you're looking for reasons to suspect people.

lol ok whatever. why do you have a wolf read on me?

Aside from the above?
I don't trust the fact that you pushed so hard on ted for shitty reasons from d0. You tried to back up your argument by saying he was being defensive and deflecting, but you couldn't provide evidence for that. You pushed him and called him a lock wolf and were unwilling to reconsider your read on him until he was dead, and then after he flipped town you just moved on to the next person as if nothing happened. Your reads didn't change at all. I see no progression from you. You're just going down the line, locking in on easy targets and trying to get them executed. You tried going after Jack, and backed off after the slightest pushback.
Your turn, explain your read on me please.

Wow that's incredibly reductive and wrong.

Who's the easy target I'm locked onto now that I'm trying to get executed? You don't get to count there. I don't think I ever had a strong push on Jack, nor did I have them as a strong wolf read.
I had some concerns, he and I chatted, and actually formed a bit of a core yesterday (yes I walked that back with some cold feet, but then today has been better so whatever) so I dunno which HK you're reading but it's not an HK that's in this game.

Why do I wolf read you?
because you're less town than Me, Mac, Epi, Guillotine, TSP, Jack, Falcon, LC. You're about the same level of not town as 112 (which is one reason I wolf read you, your handling of that slot has been atrocious) and wigly. Slightly less town than JPIC and Enrique.

I don't see lots of solving, and I think your handling of 112 and that slot is super duper bad.
Basically, you're just not town enough to get a town read.

I'd consider 112 an easy target. Your reasoning on him is just "not solving". Your reasoning for why Bolas dug himself into a hole was "not solving". What is the definition of that? He's posting consistent reads in-thread, he tried to encourage ted to expand on his reads, he had a decent response when asked his thoughts of epi & marmot. Maybe I find it easier to read him because I come from a site where it's pretty normal to minimally expand on your reads, and I'm pretty sure the same applies for 112. But your read on him really looks like a wolf who sees a townie with a minimalist posting style and decides to go after him.

I also think you're trying to misrepresent my read on 112 as something more than it is. I see him as middling town. A lot of it recently has to do with the bad pushes on him, such as your own. But you and Mac are treating it like I have this god-read on 112 where I'm unwilling to consider the possibility that he's scum. That's not the case at all, but you're blowing up my read on 112 to try to make it look like I have TMI or something.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:55 pm I just finished work.

It should not take a half an hour to take attendance, even for extra classes.

I realize the Day ends in about five minutes, so if anybody wants to ask something before lock, go ahead. Sorry I can't be around.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:55 pm I just finished work.

It should not take a half an hour to take attendance, even for extra classes.

I realize the Day ends in about five minutes, so if anybody wants to ask something before lock, go ahead. Sorry I can't be around.

sure, I've got a question: Rhubarb Pie, yes or no

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:58 pm Somebody vote for Enrique

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:58 pm Somebody vote for Enrique

-k-
[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:00 pm [VOTE: guilltine] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:02 pmLOL nice

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:59 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:58 pm Somebody vote for Enrique

-k-
[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

I was about to ask you specifically since I don't think Enrique will move off me if you're voting him.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:02 pm Someone tell me who not to vote

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:04 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:02 pmLOL nice

Was that "LOL nice" I'm happy we have more time or was that "LOL nice" my last minute vote switch wasn't so last minute shit?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:59 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:58 pm Somebody vote for Enrique

-k-
[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

I was about to ask you specifically since I don't think Enrique will move off me if you're voting him.

Ok, so why did I swap to guillotine? There's enough people voting double that Guillo could potentially be randed the chop by virtue of everyone having one vote. I think the two most important people to prevent from being chopped are epi and guillo, mac shortly behind there.
Honestly I want another voter on LC too

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:05 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:02 pm Someone tell me who not to vote

Ideally, I want it to be between Wilgy and JPIC at 0 votes and with an extra voter on whoever Wilgy and JPIC are voting for.

If one is a townie, they'll go. RIP. Most acceptable loss in a bad scenario.

If both are wolves, we get two wolves.

Leaving 3 people tied means a townie gets yeeted unless we like properly called the entire mafia.