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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:20 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:08 am It would make more sense as a last min addition if DDL was responsible for the disappearances to begin with.
Allow me to deny that.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:21 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:07 am
Elohcin wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:06 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:10 pm Yes.

So far I was playing the game without knowing if I was civ or bad.

Turns out Im 3p.
This makes me think it took DDL longer to get his pick in and therefore longer for Mac to write his role. It makes sense he is 3P so that it doesn't mess up the balance of the game. I believe him.
But doesn’t he? He’s claiming rezzer, essentially. That’s a major balance shift.
I'm not a rezzer, I only exist ro nullify another specific ability.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:08 pm Hey guys I'm a survivor role. Don't lynch me.

I also have the ability to bring some of the vanished players back which could be useful to town.
My initial reaction to this is one of concern. This came one literal minute after Colin posted a huge ISO and vote on DDL. I am also being asked to believe that DDL made nearly 100 posts without even knowing what he is playing for.

This is a game which by design encourages tomfoolery and shenanigans -- including silly fake claims, WIFOMs, and why the hell nots. DDL, you are a terrible soccer player.
My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
How do I know you’re not scum just lying about your claim?

The only thing you’ve done all game is put townies in front of you to take nks in your place or lied. You don’t actually benefit from catching baddies whether you are telling the truth or not.

Power aside, why wouldn’t we lynch you? What good is a survivor to the town?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
I agree Luna looks pretty bad. In an almost "too scummy to be scum" kind of way.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:24 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:19 am I will play the game as a civ, is that's what you are thinking.
Starting when?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:25 am
by Elohcin
I don't know DDL, What Jack says makes sense. I will wait and listen to what others have to say. This kind of thing is not my forte.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:30 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:08 pm Hey guys I'm a survivor role. Don't lynch me.

I also have the ability to bring some of the vanished players back which could be useful to town.
My initial reaction to this is one of concern. This came one literal minute after Colin posted a huge ISO and vote on DDL. I am also being asked to believe that DDL made nearly 100 posts without even knowing what he is playing for.

This is a game which by design encourages tomfoolery and shenanigans -- including silly fake claims, WIFOMs, and why the hell nots. DDL, you are a terrible soccer player.
My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
How do I know you’re not scum just lying about your claim?

The only thing you’ve done all game is put townies in front of you to take nks in your place or lied. You don’t actually benefit from catching baddies whether you are telling the truth or not.

Power aside, why wouldn’t we lynch you? What good is a survivor to the town?
If you lynch me you are guaranteed not to lynch a baddie.

And if you lynch me it's possible the vanishings may become permanent.

As for hunting with town, I can see a number of reasons to do that. First of all, it's fun, and there is nothing else to do here. I don't want to play another CC123. Second, a town landslide win would expedite the end of the game, which is good for me. Third, now that I claimed, I need you people on my good side, so not helping you guys is not an option. Fourth, I have a versed interest in finding the civs, since my wincon requires distinguishing them among the vanished ones. And fifth, if again a landslide win is happening, a bigger percentage of vanished people will be civs which again is good for me.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:31 am
by colonialbob
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:08 pm Hey guys I'm a survivor role. Don't lynch me.

I also have the ability to bring some of the vanished players back which could be useful to town.
My initial reaction to this is one of concern. This came one literal minute after Colin posted a huge ISO and vote on DDL. I am also being asked to believe that DDL made nearly 100 posts without even knowing what he is playing for.

This is a game which by design encourages tomfoolery and shenanigans -- including silly fake claims, WIFOMs, and why the hell nots. DDL, you are a terrible soccer player.
My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:31 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:24 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:19 am I will play the game as a civ, is that's what you are thinking.
Starting when?
Since day 1?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:33 am
by colonialbob
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
Spoiler: show
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:08 pm Hey guys I'm a survivor role. Don't lynch me.

I also have the ability to bring some of the vanished players back which could be useful to town.
My initial reaction to this is one of concern. This came one literal minute after Colin posted a huge ISO and vote on DDL. I am also being asked to believe that DDL made nearly 100 posts without even knowing what he is playing for.

This is a game which by design encourages tomfoolery and shenanigans -- including silly fake claims, WIFOMs, and why the hell nots. DDL, you are a terrible soccer player.
My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
How do I know you’re not scum just lying about your claim?

The only thing you’ve done all game is put townies in front of you to take nks in your place or lied. You don’t actually benefit from catching baddies whether you are telling the truth or not.

Power aside, why wouldn’t we lynch you? What good is a survivor to the town?
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:33 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Cbob:

Funny, in my other forum, a player just got policy lynched for claiming survivor on day 2 when she could have done it on day 1. I guess your game theory is debatable.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:37 am
by colonialbob
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:39 am
by colonialbob
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:47 am
by ColinIsCool
Nothing DDL has said directly contradicts anything he said in earlier phases as far as I can tell. But I like the questions Jack is asking. Maybe I like what cbob is saying too, but I can’t easily translate that on my phone.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:54 am
by MacDougall
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You can't say that about Colin! That's very bad behaviour young man. Colin is not a raging buggerer.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Well, I’m a survivor, too, so don’t lynch me cause that will “guarantee” we don’t lynch mafia.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:14 am
by Jackofhearts2005
colonialbob wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:33 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
Spoiler: show
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:08 pm Hey guys I'm a survivor role. Don't lynch me.

I also have the ability to bring some of the vanished players back which could be useful to town.
My initial reaction to this is one of concern. This came one literal minute after Colin posted a huge ISO and vote on DDL. I am also being asked to believe that DDL made nearly 100 posts without even knowing what he is playing for.

This is a game which by design encourages tomfoolery and shenanigans -- including silly fake claims, WIFOMs, and why the hell nots. DDL, you are a terrible soccer player.
My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
How do I know you’re not scum just lying about your claim?

The only thing you’ve done all game is put townies in front of you to take nks in your place or lied. You don’t actually benefit from catching baddies whether you are telling the truth or not.

Power aside, why wouldn’t we lynch you? What good is a survivor to the town?
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I don’t think any host offhandedly adds a 3p rezzer to the game or a role that only seeks to 100% neuter another role.

What do you think of the idea that DDL is vanishing players and bringing them back?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:58 am
by colonialbob
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 am Well, I’m a survivor, too, so don’t lynch me cause that will “guarantee” we don’t lynch mafia.
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:03 am
by colonialbob
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:14 am
Spoiler: show
colonialbob wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:33 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:00 am

My initial reaction to this is one of concern. This came one literal minute after Colin posted a huge ISO and vote on DDL. I am also being asked to believe that DDL made nearly 100 posts without even knowing what he is playing for.

This is a game which by design encourages tomfoolery and shenanigans -- including silly fake claims, WIFOMs, and why the hell nots. DDL, you are a terrible soccer player.
My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
How do I know you’re not scum just lying about your claim?

The only thing you’ve done all game is put townies in front of you to take nks in your place or lied. You don’t actually benefit from catching baddies whether you are telling the truth or not.

Power aside, why wouldn’t we lynch you? What good is a survivor to the town?
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I don’t think any host offhandedly adds a 3p rezzer to the game or a role that only seeks to 100% neuter another role.

What do you think of the idea that DDL is vanishing players and bringing them back?
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:09 am
by nutella
ColinIsCool wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:47 am Nothing DDL has said directly contradicts anything he said in earlier phases as far as I can tell. But I like the questions Jack is asking. Maybe I like what cbob is saying too, but I can’t easily translate that on my phone.
Seriously I hate that style of posting curse. It's just as much a curse on the people trying to read the damn thread as on the player themself. Having to copy posts into a translator is fucking annoying, it literally just makes it take longer to read the thread and is many times worse when playing from phone. Fuck this noise. [mention]MacDougall[/mention] or whoever is responsible for posting restrictions can we please not do this type of curse again please. It sucks.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:11 am
by nutella
Look I said please twice, that should do it, right hostie? :noble:

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:12 am
by nutella
Anyway my two cents are that we should probably keep DDL around long enough to give him a chance to rescue a couple civs, but he sounds like he will become a liability in late game. I'm still unclear whether he's claiming he'd survive a lynch attempt or not though so I'm not sure what we'll end up doing about him?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:13 am
by dunya
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cbob might have just become my favorite person in the world :biggrin:

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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:20 am
by Jackofhearts2005
colonialbob wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:03 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:14 am
Spoiler: show
colonialbob wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:33 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 am

My plan was to play like a civ on day 1. If I got a civ role, no problem. If I got a baddie, I'd shut up about it and reap the benefits of being legit uninformed for a while.

Well that plan didn't work much, since people started voting menin droves in day 2. But getting a survivor role went against it too. A survivor should claim asap. So I did the most obvious thing and claimed.
A survivor shouldn’t claim ASAP.

The most useful thing most survivors can do for the town is to take a nightkill for them. By claiming early, a survivor removed this possibility and sets up a scenario where the town will take a nightkill for the survivor instead now that the scum knows not to shoot the survivor, which hurts the town.

Additionally, it is known that survivors are scum at mylo and mafia can false claim survivor.

The correct townie response to an early survivor claim (unless the survivor claims something like rezzer) is to lynch the player who claimed survivor.
Why the hell would I want to take a kill for anyone? What part of "survivor" fits with that?

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.
How do I know you’re not scum just lying about your claim?

The only thing you’ve done all game is put townies in front of you to take nks in your place or lied. You don’t actually benefit from catching baddies whether you are telling the truth or not.

Power aside, why wouldn’t we lynch you? What good is a survivor to the town?
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I don’t think any host offhandedly adds a 3p rezzer to the game or a role that only seeks to 100% neuter another role.

What do you think of the idea that DDL is vanishing players and bringing them back?
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Perhaps.

I agree we’ll be able to find out one way or another. I don’t actually support lynching DDL today. I think we should reevaluate in two days.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:21 am
by speedchuck
I looked at ISOs for Sprityo and Lilifer and would rather lynch Sprityo between the two. Am I wrong? Why?

:phew:

That was like 40 posts worth of mafia. I've really put the work in today.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:22 am
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:09 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:47 am Nothing DDL has said directly contradicts anything he said in earlier phases as far as I can tell. But I like the questions Jack is asking. Maybe I like what cbob is saying too, but I can’t easily translate that on my phone.
Seriously I hate that style of posting curse. It's just as much a curse on the people trying to read the damn thread as on the player themself. Having to copy posts into a translator is fucking annoying, it literally just makes it take longer to read the thread and is many times worse when playing from phone. Fuck this noise. @MacDougall or whoever is responsible for posting restrictions can we please not do this type of curse again please. It sucks.
Use this one.

https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/num ... ascii.html

Works on mobile. Ignores non binary so you can quote, select all, copy and paste.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
GOing with [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine for now.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am
by speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am GOing with [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine for now.
What's the reason? (on both ends, hers and yours)

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:24 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
As for the others, I think Jay and Colin are civs. Kyle looks civ-like too which is amazing given it's so early in the game, but I'm always paranoid about him. No idea about the rest.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:24 am
by Turnip Head
ok so what do we know about these clownheads

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:24 am
by ColinIsCool
Lilefer, Luna, and Spirit are all people I am unable to get reads on. They should tell us who they want to vote for.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:25 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am GOing with [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine for now.
What's the reason? (on both ends, hers and yours)
I thought her points made on day 1 were forced and my mind hasn't changed so far.

Tbh I hope I have a better case by EoD though I'm not making that effort now.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:26 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
So I used my ability on one of the disappearing people and it worked.

They should go back at the end of the day, provided Mac doesn't fuck with me.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:27 am
by ColinIsCool
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:22 am
nutella wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:09 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:47 am Nothing DDL has said directly contradicts anything he said in earlier phases as far as I can tell. But I like the questions Jack is asking. Maybe I like what cbob is saying too, but I can’t easily translate that on my phone.
Seriously I hate that style of posting curse. It's just as much a curse on the people trying to read the damn thread as on the player themself. Having to copy posts into a translator is fucking annoying, it literally just makes it take longer to read the thread and is many times worse when playing from phone. Fuck this noise. @MacDougall or whoever is responsible for posting restrictions can we please not do this type of curse again please. It sucks.
Use this one.

https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/num ... ascii.html

Works on mobile. Ignores non binary so you can quote, select all, copy and paste.
For some reason his messages are all posting as links/phone numbers so it’s just a pain to copy them on mobile. It’s nbd, I’ll check it out when I’m back on a desktop.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:30 am
by ColinIsCool
Just thinking about Luna, though, she does seem to be acting veeeeeery slightly differently than she had been in previous games, a little less outwardly nice, but part of that feels like a playstyle evolving as she gets more used to the game and part of that might be because I sorta framed her as scum for it in Ancient Greece ... GTH town but I need to read and hear more

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:31 am
by nutella
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:22 am
nutella wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:09 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:47 am Nothing DDL has said directly contradicts anything he said in earlier phases as far as I can tell. But I like the questions Jack is asking. Maybe I like what cbob is saying too, but I can’t easily translate that on my phone.
Seriously I hate that style of posting curse. It's just as much a curse on the people trying to read the damn thread as on the player themself. Having to copy posts into a translator is fucking annoying, it literally just makes it take longer to read the thread and is many times worse when playing from phone. Fuck this noise. @MacDougall or whoever is responsible for posting restrictions can we please not do this type of curse again please. It sucks.
Use this one.

https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/num ... ascii.html

Works on mobile. Ignores non binary so you can quote, select all, copy and paste.
Yeah I have been using that one it's just really annoying to have to do it at all

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:32 am
by Turnip Head
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:20 pm "I cannot believe that you lied to me. You told me we were going to see the Wests Tigers, not some stupid mathematics olympics bullshit!" Mac was pissed.

"Fuck this. I'm leaving."

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The quick brown Marmot jumped over the lazy dog, into oncoming traffic. Oops.

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"I cannot control it!" Wolbre04 cried. "I am so sorry!" Tears were welling up in his eyes.
"I know the feelz brah." Quin was a little bit less tense about the whole thing.
They then proceeded to beat each other to death. Not ideal.

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Juliets was going about her morning rotuine and had just poured her glass of hot water with nothing in it when the earth opened up beneath her, swallowing her whole.

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Sig and his boyfriend were going on their early morning (2am wtf) walk when his boyfriend noticed he had dropped something a few blocks back. He left Sig behind and jogged back to find his missing pocket lint. What the fuck dude, now Sig is abducted and for what? Pocket lint? Fucks sake.

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Marmot is dead.

Spoiler: show
He was El Capitan. Every day that you self vote, you will be given a sweet gift that night. Self aligned.

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Wolbre04 is dead.

Spoiler: show
He was Sexy Nicolas Cage in a banana.

The first time you are lynched nothing will happen and I will post a YouTube video of fart noises. Civilian.

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Quin is dead.

Spoiler: show
He was A Salad Roll.

You are a simple salad roll. You have bread, lettuce, mayo, tomato, cucumber and lean meat. Each night you may invite another player to add to the salad roll. Notify me of the player you wish to invite by DM during the previous day phase. If you end up with an additional 5 ingredients you become Captain Salad Roll, avenger and hero for justice and stuff and you will become immediately unlynchable, unkillable and kill every night. Civilian.

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Juliets has vanished without a trace.

Sig has vanished. There are signs of a struggle.

Spacedaisy has been sent to Time Out.



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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:39 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:26 am So I used my ability on one of the disappearing people and it worked.

They should go back at the end of the day, provided Mac doesn't fuck with me.
So it’s a day ability?

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:40 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I think I’ve mislynched Luna in every game we’ve played together. I have no confidence in my ability to determine her alignment.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:40 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:39 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:26 am So I used my ability on one of the disappearing people and it worked.

They should go back at the end of the day, provided Mac doesn't fuck with me.
So it’s a day ability?
Yeah

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:41 am
by Turnip Head
So DDL... you're like, some sort of benevolent kidnapper, ju say?

That sounds....... plausible?

In like... la la land maybe.... which is where we are I guess....

but dude.......

ellipses.........

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:42 am
by nutella
I will go ahead and [VOTE: lunalee] aubergine for now for reasons I outlined earlier. She has contributed nothing but fake-sounding unproductive fluff. Plus her two meager posts about the night poll were cookie-cutter and sketchy as hell, she voted for 6 at the end but then acted all fine and dandy that 2 happened without even reacting to the fact she's one of the 8. I think she's afraid to say anything that might put her in the spotlight, and she's trying a little too hard to stay inconspicuous that she instead looks scummy as hell.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:43 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Turnip Head wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:41 am So DDL... you're like, some sort of benevolent kidnapper, ju say?

That sounds....... plausible?

In like... la la land maybe.... which is where we are I guess....

but dude.......

ellipses.........
No, that's Jack's tinfoil theory.

I'm not a kidnapper.

I'm more like a psychic who can find out where the kidnapped people are. And bring them back.

Also I'm still wrapping my head over how that's related to my submitted role. I feel like Mac needed someone to balance the kidnapper and since my character can predict the future he loosely connected her to that.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 am
by Turnip Head
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:40 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:39 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:26 am So I used my ability on one of the disappearing people and it worked.

They should go back at the end of the day, provided Mac doesn't fuck with me.
So it’s a day ability?
Yeah
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Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 am
by nutella
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:40 am I think I’ve mislynched Luna in every game we’ve played together. I have no confidence in my ability to determine her alignment.
To be fair, I am a little afraid of this since I haven't played with her much ( I think only a burglary? Other than that just the Genius) and maybe i just don't know her style and she just plays like this. I'm curious to see what people more familiar with her think of my case.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
My only memory of playing with her is Image Mafia (where I was the host)

Doesn't help much.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:46 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
I think Epi has a point tho. It's hard to imagine her actions as mafia motivated, either.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:49 am
by nutella
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 am My only memory of playing with her is Image Mafia (where I was the host)

Doesn't help much.
Oh I was in that game too but it doesn't really help me here since it was so different lol

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 2

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:50 am
by nutella
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 10:46 am I think Epi has a point tho. It's hard to imagine her actions as mafia motivated, either.
What "actions"? Wtf has she even done? That's my point. The thing that's mafia motivated is not committing to any real opinions.

Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Day 1

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:54 am
by Lunalee
nutella wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 11:44 pm
Spoiler: show
@Scotty I like your description of Luna's post. In fact I think it can be applied to her whole ISO. Pretty much all of her posts are "dry and unbuttered" as far as I can tell.

Her day 1 posts focus on dunya acting "shady" and particularly in reference to Wolbre and the Boobquest (The Syndicate's hottest new band). The following is utterly empty nonsense:

Lunalee wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 11:23 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 10:05 am
Lunalee wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 9:10 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 2:33 pm
Lunalee wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 1:28 pm I've never seen so many players listed in a poll. It's a bit overwhelming. I'm deliberating on whether I should I vote for wolbre before he becomes immortal, or dunya because she's acting super shady, or someone else entirely?
What do you mean acting super shady?
Just the passionate responses, and calling people out. But maybe she's being dunya.
You think a baddie would be more likely to be passionate and call people out?
We're talking about dunya here, so yes.
Like.... what?? Let me recap this exchange
luna: "dunya's acting shady"
ddl: "how so?"
luna: "blah whatever behavior but actually that might just be what dunya is like idk"
ddl: "so that blah whatever behavior is scum behavior?"
luna: "for dunya it is"

?????? am I reading this wrong or did she literally just contradict herself? :confused:



then she makes a weird vote on Jay for one of his callouts on dunya. and she switches her vote to epi so it would matter. whatever this is so blah. nothing from her sounds natural or productive or anything. completely bland to a gross extent. also imo her vote+explanation for option 6 was probably the worst one that I saw, it felt fake and so did her above acceptance of the result/current poll state.
Luna, do you have any reads or anything interesting you can contribute because it seems like the role you are playing is "cardboard with a side of empty space"
Dammit nutella, I told mac I wanted to be cardboard.

But in all seriousness, I'll try to contribute something helpful this lynch. Only having 7 players to ISO isn't too daunting. Sorry my play-style is confusing to you all.