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Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pmBesides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Hypocrisy is not scummy.Kami wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:09 pmLying about what happened is scummy and even if he wasn't being a hypocrite the read sucks to begin with. What deli did youc an actually say "this isn't even scummy"
Why do you have a question mark next to igno?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pmi'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pmBesides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Villa
Deli
Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?
Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature
Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon
tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O
I think this is probably townie for Nanook.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:23 pm No silent voting and no way to quickly get an accurate vote count in a hammer game, rip
So you have any new case to bring up on me or are you basing it off of something someone has already said and if so which one would that be?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pmi'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pmBesides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Villa
Deli
Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?
Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature
Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon
tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O
Ha this goofball beat me to it!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:59 pmWhy do you have a question mark next to igno?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pmi'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pmBesides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Villa
Deli
Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?
Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature
Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon
tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O
Why do you townread Marmot and igno? I'm not satisfied with their content.Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pmi'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pmBesides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Villa
Deli
Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?
Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature
Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon
tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O
lol
good thing they're not ig
This statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.
Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).
Not sure on him. Some of his unpopular stances, like defending Gavial, seemed towny.
it's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atmMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:07 pmThis statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.
Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).
Fair.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:08 pmAudaciousness is a characteristic of a quality wolf. It's not really a towntell for someone like wiml.
Wiml is a quality player and based on a small sample size, I think we see the game similarly so when Wiml looks at posts and arrives at different outcomes to me over and over again I think it's an indication that we are not aligned. This isn't meta proven, but based on what I've seen in games I've played with them so far I would say it holds true.Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:09 pmit's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atmMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:07 pmThis statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.
Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).
If your going to repeat exactly what I said you can Unvote me tyvm.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:04 pmWhy do you townread Marmot and igno? I'm not satisfied with their content.Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pmi'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pmBesides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?Deli wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pmKami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment imeEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pmRN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Villa
Deli
Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?
Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature
Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon
tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O
If he is a mafia like you he isn't the mafia we vote day 1. That's just not really how it works imoMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:11 pmWiml is a quality player and based on a small sample size, I think we see the game similarly so when Wiml looks at posts and arrives at different outcomes to me over and over again I think it's an indication that we are not aligned. This isn't meta proven, but based on what I've seen in games I've played with them so far I would say it holds true.Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:09 pmit's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atmMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:07 pmThis statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.
Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).
They are also reminding me of my own mafia posts. Particularly the mix of overexplaining things to feign solving mindset mixed in with snap reads that are designed to keep people off balance.
NM you changed it.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:11 pmFair.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:08 pmAudaciousness is a characteristic of a quality wolf. It's not really a towntell for someone like wiml.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine
I really need to sleep.
I think Igno is wolfing.ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:50 amWhat I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:47 am Wall PostSpoiler: show
Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?
Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.
Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?
Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?
Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?
Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia
I am not asking anyone to vote for him, yet.Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pmIf he is a mafia like you he isn't the mafia we vote day 1. That's just not really how it works imoMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:11 pmWiml is a quality player and based on a small sample size, I think we see the game similarly so when Wiml looks at posts and arrives at different outcomes to me over and over again I think it's an indication that we are not aligned. This isn't meta proven, but based on what I've seen in games I've played with them so far I would say it holds true.Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:09 pmit's a weird read but atm I'm pretty much just seeing wiml town reading town and wolf reading scummy people, plus I think it's not necessarily wolfy for him to be forcing reads atmMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:07 pmThis statement has no basis of fact unless you have TMI.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am Esooa focusing on meta reads is towny for her (regardless of the accuracy of the read) and probably not partnered with falcon. Doubt she comes in this way as a wolf.
Generally she's also pushing the game in a good direction and that's town-indicative of her. Agree with her takes on Deli (and also that she pointed out Deli as being somebody likely to get mistakenly misread is accurate and I +1 that).
They are also reminding me of my own mafia posts. Particularly the mix of overexplaining things to feign solving mindset mixed in with snap reads that are designed to keep people off balance.
I'd agreeMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pmI think Igno is wolfing.ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:50 amWhat I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:47 am Wall PostSpoiler: show
Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?
Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.
Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?
Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?
Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?
Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia
I saw this post before that other one and thought it was a bit of a weird post for Wiml. Mostly the detail in which he articulated feels performative. Having arrived at an Igno wolfread after that I can see why it feels off to me because it feels like Wiml is trying to temper the obviousness of "here Igno let me give you something to chew on to make yourself look townier."ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:35 amI'll try my bestWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:33 am igno, would you be able to talk me through your falcon read please? Particularly how you went from GTH mafia originally but you seem to strongly SR them / are making associatives with them now? Are there any other reasons for this that you haven't mentioned yet?
I pretty much forgot about my read but if I read again I should be able to explain more
~~~~~
So I read through the thread again and currently these are my only reasons for wolf-reading them
So TLDR: I don't have much reasons to SR Falcon but I SR them so strongly because of the fact I only have two SRs: Gavial and them.Spoiler: show
Read Syn, I think they wolfing with them!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pmI think Igno is wolfing.ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:50 amWhat I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:47 am Wall PostSpoiler: show
Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?
Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.
Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?
Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?
Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?
Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia
I think this post just as likely comes from Wiml as either alignmentMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:15 pmI saw this post before that other one and thought it was a bit of a weird post for Wiml. Mostly the detail in which he articulated feels performative. Having arrived at an Igno wolfread after that I can see why it feels off to me because it feels like Wiml is trying to temper the obviousness of "here Igno let me give you something to chew on to make yourself look townier."ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:35 amI'll try my bestWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:33 am igno, would you be able to talk me through your falcon read please? Particularly how you went from GTH mafia originally but you seem to strongly SR them / are making associatives with them now? Are there any other reasons for this that you haven't mentioned yet?
I pretty much forgot about my read but if I read again I should be able to explain more
~~~~~
So I read through the thread again and currently these are my only reasons for wolf-reading them
So TLDR: I don't have much reasons to SR Falcon but I SR them so strongly because of the fact I only have two SRs: Gavial and them.Spoiler: show
I am reading Syn as strongly town atm. But I am doing a full catch up.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:16 pmRead Syn, I think they wolfing with them!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pmI think Igno is wolfing.ignoramus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:50 amWhat I mean to say is: I only have TWO SRs, you and Falcon. That is why I SR both of you so strongly.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:47 am Wall PostSpoiler: show
Syn @Syn
So I know you had Deli in your scum list (and Falcon) but you haven’t really built on that much. It wasn’t until Esooa VETO’ed them that inspired you to vote Deli. Why is that?
Also, your response with “Wall Posts Bad” I was referring to Ignoramus not myself.
Wiml @Wiml
When you Re-entered the thread.
You never once mentioned me the person you are voting for.
No response, no case build, no reconsideration.
No nothing.
So is there anything else you’d like to say regarding my slot?
Ignoramus @ignoramus
Considering the fact you admit to WamL you lack reason to strongly SR Falcon and your only real strong scum read is me, a Willager.
Think you may want to re-eval your reads?
Nanook @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hello mister Nanook!
It would appear you have no prior mention of WamL before you voted them. Did you perhaps do that because Syn changed their vote to Deli? Do you Town Read Deli or perhaps just SR WamL more?
Creature @Creature
Other then my pop out, is there any other reason you have your vote on me?
And no I will not re-evaluate, not unless I get other info from flips (mostly red, unless NK then I'll read all)
Anyway, goodnight! I should check how many hours till EOD before I can sleep peacefully
The downside of mafia
Everything about this makes me gag.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:16 am Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs
Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.
Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.
Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)
hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.
Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.
Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.
Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.
ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?
MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).
Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.
I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
yeah kindaMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:19 pmEverything about this makes me gag.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:16 am Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs
Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.
Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.
Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)
hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.
Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.
Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.
Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.
ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?
MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).
Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.
I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:42 am I'm surprised nobody picked it up after I strongly suggested it earlier but my entrance was on purpose lol. I wanted to see how people would react if I did something very uncharacteristic mostly, given that I don't usually consider myself a miselim risk in these sorts of games.
I think hk/Deli had towny reactions to it. Syn maybe(???) but I'm not sure.
Okay Wiml has a buzzword bingo wolf tell. Might wanna clear that out of your meta bro lol.
I dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.
In that fallout game where you and Esooa were half scum and teammates, how did she act then and can you compare it to this game?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:27 pmI dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.
No because we were just able to scum hunt so there is no meta that applies.Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:28 pmIn that fallout game where you and Esooa were half scum and teammates, how did she act then and can you compare it to this game?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:27 pmI dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.
lmfao I've been a good little towny recently shut upMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:27 pmI dunno your game progresses rapidly and I haven't seen you wolf in like 6 months. You don't have all that many because you have openwolfing in your townrange. At the time your wolf game was characterised by things such as outing yourself trying to save drowning teammates, and/or pushing really obvious towny players for bad reasons. Nothing in your posting style particularly, but yeah that's mostly because you have being unabashedly anti-town in your townrange.
I have no idea what you're talking about?? I didn't force any SRs, it's just that I have only two SRs rn so I've focused a lot on themMarmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:16 am Observations thus far on players from reading their ISOs
Deli - Some of their posts are nuanced enough that I believe they come from town, specifically their esooa read. Additionally, it seems a number of people scumread Deli for defending Wiml early on, but that looks NAI to me. No issues there.
Kami - Short posts, but they seem very unafraid in tossing reads out there. It's a townlean for now, one I'll likely reconsider later or on future days.
Esooa - I like esooa's more recent posts more than her earlier ones. I think her agreement with Mac is very lacking, mainly because Mac provided 0 context for his reads, so agreeing with them is a big meh. But she seems to be making her own reads, including calling falcon mafia (which is actually not what Mac called him lol)
hollowbutt - I was torn on this one. On one hand, his posts look like ones he could believe in (I'm looking particularly at his argument with Deli about Deli's defense of Wiml). But this suspicion seems a little silly to me. Meta read on HK (yes I'm using a meta read, take that), in his last two wolf games, HK has created a heavy distancing with a partner on Day 1 (Invictus in Bluey Mafia, and Seanzie in Beelzebub). Wiml's reaction makes them look not paired based on HK's recent scum strategies, so I believe they are not W/W, but they could be any other combo. I'm going to give HK a slight townlean for now, mainly because I'm not ready to yeet him.
Wiml - I'm in agreement with a lot of others on this slot. His entrance into the game isn't very good, particular his comments about Gavial. That said, Wiml has a redeeming factor in that he's continued playing the game in a manner that seems unperturbed by the pressure, which I think is a mildly good look.
Syn - I don't recall a game where I was town and Syn was also playing (and he didn't sub in after I died), thus I can't recall a time where I've had to make an uninformed read on Syn. I'm not seeing anything yet that makes me townread him. GTH, mafia, but that's more to lack of readable content than to anything specifically scummy.
Nanook - Not out of his townrange or scumrange right now. Will reconsider on a future day.
ignoramus - Most of their ISO is fine, with the exception of this post. @ignoramus is there a reason you feel the need to force a scum read due to having a lack of them?
MacDougall - 0 scumreads so far. 2 3 townreads. Mac having 0 stated scumreads 24 hours into the day is a concern. He has made a vote, but it was a naked vote. Not a townread right now (but he could just be lazy).
Creature - One thing I really dislike about Creature thus far is their post saying ""I think I townread..." and two posts later saying "I currently feel fairly good". I have 2 issues here. 1) Creature uses two adverbs to describe the second opinion. 2) Nothing really happened to support such a confidence change. I don't mind a bunch of townreads early, but I see this a means of doubling down when being questioned about it since the reads began as soft ones.
I unfortunately have to run, so I'll get to Gavial and falcon later, but I'm going to drop a vote on Creature for now.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
I can agree with most of this list.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:25 pm Pretty confident townreads
hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Moderately confident townreads
falcon45ca
Syn
Not sure, kinda towny maybe
Creature
Gavial
Kami
Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong
Marmot
Deli
Just wolfy
Wiml
ignoramus
