The Syndicate

Mac is bad. He screwed off until his life was in danger, and then opened up his own Aussie butthole durin theg legitimate mafia-can-hunt period to get out of trouble. Since the demise of the Dictators, he really hasn't done much. He's guilty of the very thing he tried to pin on me yesterday.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:20 am wtaf is going on

This post is pure trash. Kill him.

Also, is it night? Why is the poll still going?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:12 pm Also, is it night? Why is the poll still going?

Unique deadline forced the poll to be wack. It's night.

MacDougall and speedchuck


No.


Implied defense via ignorance.


"Hey we could shoot Mac! Or, if you prefer, one of these other literally seven people." nudge nudge wink wink


I don't know where speedchuck's vote actually ended up. [mention]sprityo[/mention], do we have polls? I don't care about this very much anyway.


This is nothing banter disguised as relevance.


speedchuck did not sound like a granny. Bullshit. Why is the granny trying so hard to look bad? That draws civilian visits. This is fake and they talked about it in BTSC.


Neutral chatter about night kill shit. Meh.


First thing Mac actually says about speed. Token gentle distancing. No meaningful pressure applied. Garbo. Indeed, I'm now through page three of Mac's posts and this is fucking it until that granny nonsense. Gross.


Mac cares about Epi's old suspicion of nova, but not his old suspicion of speedchuck.


The authenticity of this post can be scored as a negative number. Hell no.


When I ask for names to shoot, Mac gives me a garden salad only featuring a dollop of speedchuck dressing.


"Die!" looks fake, and the vote is worth nothing to me. The game is being solved around claims, of which Mac has not control or inclusion, and bussing is the only way.

~~~

Bad looks galore.

I want responses to this immediately.

I dig it. Do you think Luna is compatible with him? At this point I'd be very surprised if she was town but this is really compelling too

Compelling stuff. I liked the bit with him caring about Epi's suspicion of me (that was based on me refusing to talk to him like he was a 5 y.o lol), but not Speedchuck. I think he ended up going back to it though when Speedchuck became a consensus target. It should be somewhere there.

Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:39 pm Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

It doesn't have to be her. A number of candidates arise. My cursory look told me the only poor compatibility prospect for Mac was Luna (which itself demands reassessment).

All game long Mac be like "lynch Quins! Shoot the Quins! The Quins are bad!"

Then we do that, he flips civilian, and Mac says "wtaf is going on"

Burn

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:01 pm Epi and Jack also killed dunya I think.

The question becomes who killed epi.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:35 am Points For Poutanko:

Points Against:

Nearly got lynched yesterday (generally suspicious to most).
Epi AND DDL interactions are on the nose.
Has motive as Dunya killer.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:39 am Dunya's ISO is the smoking gun btw.

Mac is really interested in the dunya kill.

Click this fucking spoiler.


Gee, I wonder why Mac was interested in the dunya kill. Coward.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:41 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:39 pm Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

It doesn't have to be her. A number of candidates arise. My cursory look told me the only poor compatibility prospect for Mac was Luna (which itself demands reassessment).

What do you think about his compatibility with our very own Nutella? He was prodding my case on her, and kind of highjacked using the angled of her response to it or lack thereof.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:41 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:39 pm Who's the third though? I'm not sold on Audrey being Mac-dependent.

It doesn't have to be her. A number of candidates arise. My cursory look told me the only poor compatibility prospect for Mac was Luna (which itself demands reassessment).

What do you think about his compatibility with our very own Nutella? He was prodding my case on her, and kind of highjacked using the angled of her response to it or lack thereof.

I called it yellow. It's conceivable. When time permits I need to review these interactions more closely.

Get in here and hunt right this instant.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:18 pm Outed gunsmiths like myself: if we give our guns to the same person, the extras get wasted, right? We have enough "confirmed Civs" to give each a gun and get this thing done with a mass execution. Is that just a crazy idea with a huge flaw? Maybe. Just deciding who's getting my gun tonight, and the thought came to me. So... DFaraday and Colin? Is that right?

No, not a gunsmith.

I like that Mac case.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:18 pm Outed gunsmiths like myself: if we give our guns to the same person, the extras get wasted, right? We have enough "confirmed Civs" to give each a gun and get this thing done with a mass execution. Is that just a crazy idea with a huge flaw? Maybe. Just deciding who's getting my gun tonight, and the thought came to me. So... DFaraday and Colin? Is that right?

No, not a gunsmith.

Santas have a gun to give out as well if they haven't done so already.


I'm still thinking Luna could be bad and I was suspicious of mac in the beginning and he has been pretty adamant about quin. Then when quin flipped town he was just like idk what's going on, but as I said it seems like no one really cares that quin got mislynched. Not even quin himself. The case against mac is plausible though and I could see him potentially being bad as well.

Quin’s lynch is a bummer, but it opens the game. We were getting too comfortable and complacent. His flip allows us to reorient and find the discrepancies in our prior mindsets (like Mac).

I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

Those who like the Mac case -- find me the third mafioso.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:45 pm I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

What about his end of day 1 behavior?

I’ve never been able to confidently identify scum mac, but i’ve correctly identified town mac a few times. I felt like this was one of them, but I can’t say I have an entirely comprehensive view of things. Some of those speedchuck interactions aren’t pretty, especially considering Mac is usually one of the most aggressive poo-flingers in town.

I’d like to see him respond to your case.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:45 pm I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

What about his end of day 1 behavior?

I’ve never been able to confidently identify scum mac, but i’ve correctly identified town mac a few times. I felt like this was one of them, but I can’t say I have an entirely comprehensive view of things. Some of those speedchuck interactions aren’t pretty, especially considering Mac is usually one of the most aggressive poo-flingers in town.

I’d like to see him respond to your case.

I thought he looked good then too. It easier to look good when you don't know all of the mafia. His strategic perspectives about how to hunt just parroted mine, and that shift he made on sabie that you and I talked about hasn't really amounted to anything in the long run.

His refusal to vote to save himself was irrelevant too, because he knew that you and/or I would do it for him. We were eager to lynch either Luna or DDL and we were eager to prevent a Mac lynch.

This is true. We really telegraphed our intentions to not lynch mac, which would have made it easy for him to play the virtue card.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:11 pm Mac is bad. He screwed off until his life was in danger, and then opened up his own Aussie butthole durin theg legitimate mafia-can-hunt period to get out of trouble. Since the demise of the Dictators, he really hasn't done much. He's guilty of the very thing he tried to pin on me yesterday.

I spent all day in the sun handing out how to vote cards and then went to sleep

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:48 pm All game long Mac be like "lynch Quins! Shoot the Quins! The Quins are bad!"

Then we do that, he flips civilian, and Mac says "wtaf is going on"

Burn

The wtaf is going on comment was because I didn't understand why the poll was open.

I am not bad. You are incorrect el capitan.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:45 pm I want to be clear. I am not saying “maybe Mac needs a new look”. I’m not saying “I’m tinfoiling on Mac”.

Mac is my top suspect.

What about his end of day 1 behavior?

I’ve never been able to confidently identify scum mac, but i’ve correctly identified town mac a few times. I felt like this was one of them, but I can’t say I have an entirely comprehensive view of things. Some of those speedchuck interactions aren’t pretty, especially considering Mac is usually one of the most aggressive poo-flingers in town.

I’d like to see him respond to your case.

I thought he looked good then too. It easier to look good when you don't know all of the mafia. His strategic perspectives about how to hunt just parroted mine, and that shift he made on sabie that you and I talked about hasn't really amounted to anything in the long run.

His refusal to vote to save himself was irrelevant too, because he knew that you and/or I would do it for him. We were eager to lynch either Luna or DDL and we were eager to prevent a Mac lynch.

No

Emotionless.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:25 pm MacDougall and speedchuck

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:03 pm I am the cop and I got a red peek on Epi

You keep saying that

But the only way you got a red peek on epi is if he's on your team.
#fact

No.

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:03 pm Looking at the poll, I have no idea what the case on Mac is. Can someone on that train summarize?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

Implied defense via ignorance.

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:08 pm For the record, I'm voting DDL because I don't see town in his posts, I don't see much engagement in his posts, and he wouldn't even be fun to shoot. That's my ideal D1 lynch.

Mac would be fun to shoot. Dunya too, as well as, Jack, Nutella, Pou, Sloon, Jay, and maybe Quin. (This is not a salad, as these are not scumreads. They are just people that have been discussed and might be fun to point a gun at.)

'Course I still have to get a gun, and not get shot first. But if everything falls into place, I can wave it around like a madman and THEN get shot.

"Hey we could shoot Mac! Or, if you prefer, one of these other literally seven people." nudge nudge wink wink

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:08 pm I will in fact vote Mac to save Pou, though.

I don't know where speedchuck's vote actually ended up. @sprityo, do we have polls? I don't care about this very much anyway.

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:36 pm What happened to speedchuck voting me to save poutanko?

I have like 3 hours to do that.

Should I not? I've only seen like 2 of your posts.

I'm a fine lynch candidate if you are Mafia. If you are a civilian not so.

I am in fact a civilian. It follows that you are not a fine lynch candidate.

That presents a problem.

This is nothing banter disguised as relevance.

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:22 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:20 pm NOBODY GAVE ME A GUN!

You sounded like a granny

I told everyone I wasn't the granny though!

speedchuck did not sound like a granny. Bullshit. Why is the granny trying so hard to look bad? That draws civilian visits. This is fake and they talked about it in BTSC.

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:35 am Points Against:

Nearly got lynched yesterday (generally suspicious to most).
Epi AND DDL interactions are on the nose.
Has motive as Dunya killer.

NiGhTkIlL aNaLySiS iS wOrThLeSs

Seriously though, as a proponent of nightkill analysis, I still don't see Scum Pou. Her nearly getting lynched yesterday was stupid, as you yourself (I think) pointed out. Plenty of people had motive to kill Dunya, she's a prolific town player.

And DDL didn't interact much with anyone, and Epi townread a lot of people.

Neutral chatter about night kill shit. Meh.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:36 pm What happened to speedchuck voting me to save poutanko?

First thing Mac actually says about speed. Token gentle distancing. No meaningful pressure applied. Garbo. Indeed, I'm now through page three of Mac's posts and this is fucking it until that granny nonsense. Gross.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:04 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:58 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:04 pm Civilians: dunya, Jack
Mafia: speedchuck, leetic, nova

I scanned his history and otherwise only found three actual "suspicions" apart from this little list: Sloonei, Long Con, MacDougall (and LC hardly counts).

I never want to hear about this dude's tone again. He did nothing and probably ended up night killed for his civilian credit.

I thought his suspicion of Nova was fairly genuine.

Mac cares about Epi's old suspicion of nova, but not his old suspicion of speedchuck.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:52 pm The only thing I like about Jay right now is that his vote is on speedchuck who I definitely can see as Mafia.

The authenticity of this post can be scored as a negative number. Hell no.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:30 pm I am realizing right now that I cannot be playing Mafia. I just scheduled my thesis proposal, and every moment I exist in this game is a detriment to my future. I am going to shoot my gun now. It might kill me.

Give me names immediately.

Nutella, Colin, Speedchuck

When I ask for names to shoot, Mac gives me a garden salad only featuring a dollop of speedchuck dressing.

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:49 pm Die! [VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine!

"Die!" looks fake, and the vote is worth nothing to me. The game is being solved around claims, of which Mac has not control or inclusion, and bussing is the only way.

~~~

Bad looks galore.

I don't understand any of this case. You are forcing what should be good looks for me into a world view you want to exist.

I wanted speedchuck's head. I was happy to see him die.

I have been playing an excellent civilian game.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:02 pm Emotionless.

So?

Why don't you use the orb I gave you on me dickface

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:03 pm I don't understand any of this case. You are forcing what should be good looks for me into a world view you want to exist.

Why do I "want" you to be bad? I don't give a shit who's bad as long as they are lynched. Nobody else seems to be struggling to understand. Why are any of those things good looks?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:03 pmI wanted speedchuck's head. I was happy to see him die.

There is no evidence of that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:03 pmI have been playing an excellent civilian game.

I don't care about this sentence.

Cool job Jay

Jay wants me to be bad because Jay likes being right. Jay decided I was bad in a skim and then went back to confirm his ping. Good for Jay.

All you Jay sheep that just followed this trash case need to quit hero worshipping. Especially you sloonei you coward.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:39 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:18 pm Outed gunsmiths like myself: if we give our guns to the same person, the extras get wasted, right? We have enough "confirmed Civs" to give each a gun and get this thing done with a mass execution. Is that just a crazy idea with a huge flaw? Maybe. Just deciding who's getting my gun tonight, and the thought came to me. So... DFaraday and Colin? Is that right?

No, not a gunsmith.

Santas have a gun to give out as well if they haven't done so already.


I'm still thinking Luna could be bad and I was suspicious of mac in the beginning and he has been pretty adamant about quin. Then when quin flipped town he was just like idk what's going on, but as I said it seems like no one really cares that quin got mislynched. Not even quin himself. The case against mac is plausible though and I could see him potentially being bad as well.

Where u at Jay?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:02 pm Emotionless.

So?

Why don't you use the orb I gave you on me dickface

Barring a counterclaim, Mac is a nearly-confirmed civilian.

On Night 1, I received the following:

2 Vests (1 claimed by poutanko), 1 gun (fake, had to be speedchuck), and 1 orb.

The dictators couldn't have given me anything. Their fabricator died Day 1. The communists did give me a fake gun. They couldn't have given me a fake gun and a fake orb simultaneously.

Cool beans.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:38 pm I dig it. Do you think Luna is compatible with him? At this point I'd be very surprised if she was town but this is really compelling too

Die

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:02 pm Emotionless.

So?

Why don't you use the orb I gave you on me dickface

Barring a counterclaim, Mac is a nearly-confirmed civilian.

On Night 1, I received the following:

2 Vests (1 claimed by poutanko), 1 gun (fake, had to be speedchuck), and 1 orb.

The dictators couldn't have given me anything. Their fabricator died Day 1. The communists did give me a fake gun. They couldn't have given me a fake gun and a fake orb simultaneously.

Cool beans.

Oh yay. I hope you can win without me.

What day is it. Why is the poll open?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:10 pm What day is it. Why is the poll open?

It's Night 2. The poll is expired, ignore it.

Why is nutella a civilian?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:38 pm I dig it. Do you think Luna is compatible with him? At this point I'd be very surprised if she was town but this is really compelling too

Die

Preach.

Linki - she ain't

The world where Mac is not a civilian:

He didn't give me the orb and someone else did. He correctly guessed that someone would give me one and took a shot at it. The true santa in such a world would then have to be a living counterclaim or ts account.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:22 pm Why is the fact that nutella has ignored Nova's advances been blown away. Does nobody else find that completely incompatible with what is known about town nutella?

Town nutella in my mind would be furious at Nova and coming for his head no?

Her response to this accusation before Gun Fever took over looked pretty timid.

Timid = what?

Bad

Did Sloonei go anywhere with this?

Linki: Just drop it Jay. You ruined my Santa fun.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:12 pm Why is nutella a civilian?

She isn't. Nobody is left.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:14 pm Linki: Just drop it Jay. You ruined my Santa fun.

don't care

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:14 pm Linki: Just drop it Jay. You ruined my Santa fun.

don't care

You shouldn't

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:02 pm @Lunalee what’s the strongest piece of evidence for or against Quin?

I suspect Quin because his under-the-radar play style this game doesn't give me much to go off of, and he did not mention or interact with speedchuck at all (looks like teammate distancing).

Why does Quin have your vote instead of nova and everybody else?

Sloonei knew Quin was flipping civ?

Why is Sloonei a civ?

Lunalee
novaselinenever
nutella ----------------> Long Con / DFaraday
sabie12
Sloonei