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You're Mac.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:16 pm Can someone try and explain how my day 2 play makes any sense from the wolf perspective starting with the Alison flip. Just like do a little detective hypothesis for me.
that is a really good read from alison and transcend... the more I read this ISO the more the transcend chop comes off like a tragedy. Kind of a testament to his character that he didn't have a full of rage breakdown after putting forth the effort he did on day 1 and getting chopped in spite of it honestly. I shall read his ISO out of respect once done here.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:52 pmIt's a good read. If Mac is scummy and people call him out as scum, they are likely to be town.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:51 pmoh maybe i spoke too soonTranscend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:50 pmparticularly thisTranscend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:49 pmok this kinda sucksAlison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:47 pmI think Alexa is townie. EnderWiggin is null which might actually be concerning because he usually makes a big splash when he is town. I have been on board with Esooa and Nanook's reads of Mac and I don't think he's a target they would try to either misexe or bus if they were scum which means they are most likely town. LC as explained is self resolving. I think Transcend is slightly scummy because I don't understand any of his reads, but he seems committed to towncoring me which means he will dig himself into a whole if he is scum attempting a pocket.
but may still be town
TSP town meta. I know I'm town. Nanook/Mac is almost never w/w.
this post reminds me that at times on day 1 I actually got the impression Alison was faking her scumread of me so that I wouldn't get n1ed lol.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:00 amI think my tunnels are more hit than miss. You saw one of the games where it was a miss, but I do see quite a bit of success with catching wolves D1 with my playstyle. I also don't tunnel as much as people think I do. There have been many games where I have spent the first half of D1 going full force on someone and then switched to someone else in the second half because I think it's a miss.alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:45 pm fwiw i feel like if me/you/alison are t/t/t this is like the lime matrix game (remember i told you alison reminded me of sara w/being hit or miss tunnel !!!), and it's a situation where she's tunneling you because it's your first time playing and she doesn't know your style yet, she can very very easily be a villager
Defensiveness is in line with his townplay, but has a lack of range that may be wolf indicative.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 pm @EnderWiggin can you give me a slightly more detailed than usual read on lime coke rn?
your TSP town meta thing seems pretty weak to meEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:52 pmTSP town meta. I know I'm town. Nanook/Mac is almost never w/w.
Decent chances one of them is but I don't see Mac making the daystart sacrifice play with both w in POE. Doesn't happen.
Have you read his ISO today? Specifically from when he started shielding Alexa through the push on me for voting Transcend yesterday?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:54 pmDefensiveness is in line with his townplay, but has a lack of range that may be wolf indicative.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 pm @EnderWiggin can you give me a slightly more detailed than usual read on lime coke rn?
He's stylistically bad at expanding beyond his town-shield play when as wolf unless coached.
Nanook/Mac world would require Mac to make that daystart with partner perma-POE.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:20 pmive done my due diligence and went over my trs, i dont think esooa alexa or lime are maf, if theyre mafia i probably wont find them until much later. ik im townMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:03 pmwhyilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:02 pmmy solve before alison died is theresMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:39 pm Can I get one combination of two players from each slot that doesn't include your own name that you feel could be w/w.
And if my names is in it, a second?
Also some slots that are absolutely never teamed from your perspective?
one in wiml/ender but probably not both
one in nanook/you/tsp but for reasons alluded to earlier i dont think tsp is a hit atp
i can see any combination of these being valid
that leaves me with those 5 names. wiml/ender had some interactions in pg 40-ish that didnt look partnery to me. i already stated earlier why nanook/tsp cant be partners. in a world where wiml/ender are both town i suppose i can see nanook/you team and it was something i was considering around d1 but im struggling to find reasons to townlock either of those 2 as of rn in order to make this a viable world.
Alright.alexa wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:56 pmyour TSP town meta thing seems pretty weak to meEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:52 pmTSP town meta. I know I'm town. Nanook/Mac is almost never w/w.
Decent chances one of them is but I don't see Mac making the daystart sacrifice play with both w in POE. Doesn't happen.
It’s not hard to change ur poe, he’s done it like once every hour since day start lolEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:56 pmNanook/Mac world would require Mac to make that daystart with partner perma-POE.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:20 pmive done my due diligence and went over my trs, i dont think esooa alexa or lime are maf, if theyre mafia i probably wont find them until much later. ik im townMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:03 pmwhyilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:02 pmmy solve before alison died is theresMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:39 pm Can I get one combination of two players from each slot that doesn't include your own name that you feel could be w/w.
And if my names is in it, a second?
Also some slots that are absolutely never teamed from your perspective?
one in wiml/ender but probably not both
one in nanook/you/tsp but for reasons alluded to earlier i dont think tsp is a hit atp
i can see any combination of these being valid
that leaves me with those 5 names. wiml/ender had some interactions in pg 40-ish that didnt look partnery to me. i already stated earlier why nanook/tsp cant be partners. in a world where wiml/ender are both town i suppose i can see nanook/you team and it was something i was considering around d1 but im struggling to find reasons to townlock either of those 2 as of rn in order to make this a viable world.
I don't think that happens tbh.
This is where Alison started openly pushing Transcend/Mac worlds so I presume wolves get interested here given Transcend had been towning it up quite hard and I am me.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:34 am I don't agree with the reads you've made this game or the way you've made them. You seem to view me as obvious town but get annoyed when Esooa tries to clear me off something small and I think this might be because you are frustrated that a townie is making a correct read for the wrong reasons. My townreads all seem to suspect you.
I think Mac is your most likely partner because the way he treated you on his readslist was extremely jarring and alien.
I've been at work dealing with a situation where I have not had the time to happily read the game until now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:56 pmHave you read his ISO today? Specifically from when he started shielding Alexa through the push on me for voting Transcend yesterday?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:54 pmDefensiveness is in line with his townplay, but has a lack of range that may be wolf indicative.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 pm @EnderWiggin can you give me a slightly more detailed than usual read on lime coke rn?
He's stylistically bad at expanding beyond his town-shield play when as wolf unless coached.
wolfEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:57 pmAlright.alexa wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:56 pmyour TSP town meta thing seems pretty weak to meEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:52 pmTSP town meta. I know I'm town. Nanook/Mac is almost never w/w.
Decent chances one of them is but I don't see Mac making the daystart sacrifice play with both w in POE. Doesn't happen.
What's your TSP read and why?
Yeah that's fine hope all is ok.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:58 pmI've been at work dealing with a situation where I have not had the time to happily read the game until now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:56 pmHave you read his ISO today? Specifically from when he started shielding Alexa through the push on me for voting Transcend yesterday?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:54 pmDefensiveness is in line with his townplay, but has a lack of range that may be wolf indicative.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 pm @EnderWiggin can you give me a slightly more detailed than usual read on lime coke rn?
He's stylistically bad at expanding beyond his town-shield play when as wolf unless coached.
If you want anything indepth from me please wait until I get home.
No.
Talking about consensus POE not his.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:58 pmIt’s not hard to change ur poe, he’s done it like once every hour since day start lolEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:56 pmNanook/Mac world would require Mac to make that daystart with partner perma-POE.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:20 pmive done my due diligence and went over my trs, i dont think esooa alexa or lime are maf, if theyre mafia i probably wont find them until much later. ik im townMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:03 pmwhyilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:02 pmmy solve before alison died is theresMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:39 pm Can I get one combination of two players from each slot that doesn't include your own name that you feel could be w/w.
And if my names is in it, a second?
Also some slots that are absolutely never teamed from your perspective?
one in wiml/ender but probably not both
one in nanook/you/tsp but for reasons alluded to earlier i dont think tsp is a hit atp
i can see any combination of these being valid
that leaves me with those 5 names. wiml/ender had some interactions in pg 40-ish that didnt look partnery to me. i already stated earlier why nanook/tsp cant be partners. in a world where wiml/ender are both town i suppose i can see nanook/you team and it was something i was considering around d1 but im struggling to find reasons to townlock either of those 2 as of rn in order to make this a viable world.
I don't think that happens tbh.
show proof thenEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:59 pmNo.
It has nothing to do with him tryharding.
If he's slanking like this the only world he's wolf in is one where one of the townier players is his partner.
That's what I mean.
Wait, of what?alexa wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:01 pmshow proof thenEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:59 pmNo.
It has nothing to do with him tryharding.
If he's slanking like this the only world he's wolf in is one where one of the townier players is his partner.
That's what I mean.
Never make this read again lol.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:55 amHe doesn't catch heat as town.Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:53 amdoes he behave like this when he catches heat as town?
yeah I kinda do the same tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:42 pmYou do realise this is actually something I do to literally everyone right? My entire game is characterised by repping strong scumreads on just about the entire game by EOD 1 so I can read the content back later. It's somewhat of a meme to many people that I do this. Like you really need to stop caring lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:36 pmI go into my reads on you with the understanding I might be wrong.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:31 pmokay so what I don't get about you is that you keep getting mad about me scumreading you, but you also have been scumreading me almost the entire game? do you commonly get mad at your wolfreads for wolfreading you? cuz that's pretty abnormal behaviour.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:24 pmHonestly think you're 1/2 correct here.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:45 pm5MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:25 am Alexa - Just gonna yolo townread this slot for dumbfuck reasons
Alison - Is town because if she was a wolf she'd be trying to pocket me not chop me (how much does it suck being this easy to read?)
EnderWiggin - Is town because he asked me if I was a deepwolf or tinfoil town rather than telling me what I was
Esooa - Town unless the person we both decide to chop d1 flips wolf
ilario - Is a wolf
Lime Coke - is a town
Nanook - Is whatever other people say he is go fuck yourselves
TSP - He's in his useless townie meta
Transcend - Is town in any universe in which town are winning this mafia game so there's no point me making an actual read
Wiml - Is lock mafia
the wolves are ilario and wiml
I bid you all farewell.
Back before you decided I was wolf.
Again.
Also not really mad about it.
I just like poking at the fact that you wolf-read me every game.
You realize you're not dealing with the average mafia warrior anymore...
That's okay, if I die in the heat of battle because you are a better warrior than me then it's a noble death.
That's okay, if I die in the heat of battle because you are a better warrior than me then it's a noble death.
I will give you props for your game if you are town in post cuz you will have easily been the best player lol.
I'm being less flippant. It took me to day 2 to give a real wiml readMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:23 pm Which is weird cuz I'd rely on you by now to have embarrassed yourself with at least one really bad read. Hmmm.
also I hope you realize every time you make a post like this I have to try really hard to read into the wifom of itMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:22 pmI will give you props for your game if you are town in post cuz you will have easily been the best player lol.
In reality you're probably having the best game regardless of your alignment.
well now I feel facetiousLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:30 pm Esooa your read on Transcend was indeed flawless. You townread him to a degree of being correct that others should look at the read and be like "man, I should really try to play mafia like Esooa."
Your read was indeed GOATED and an example of how great your reads can be in a game of mafia and no one can deny you of that claim.
You deserve to have it known that you were correct on Transcend.
