The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:11 am what if colin isn’t scum

i can’t say i feel that strongly that he is even though i see the points others are raising

they don’t particularly move me ig and he comes off pretty genuine to me

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:52 am

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:50 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:48 am

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am Pawn pretty much town sided with his kill then did nothing with it

in regards to Funny
1. Her EoD was wolfy
2. Her calling LC town, her counter train, was townie as shit, and super bad if she was a wolf
3. 2 gets completely invalidated because she was apparently lynchproof?...

But the post suggested that Pawn killed nanook who was town.

I am not talking about Nanook in the slightest
I know what the flavor says about Nanook's death

Maybe I misunderstood your post then. I thought you were saying pawn killed fg. Do you think Jack is messing with us and the wording is misleading on purpose?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:36 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:41 am as I believe colin is one od the most appealing exes next day phase

My ex would disagree with you there

I was going to say something about it but I figured her phone or device must be auto correcting axes to exes for some reason haha.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:10 am tbh its not actually a bad idea for a town rber to holster N1

colin seems like the type to do that

also pawn definitely didn’t town side by killing nanook

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:41 am this is obvious probably but to the extent that we thought epi and kitsu and whoever else looked good off nanook dying that’s now been voided given we know pawn killed nanook and likely was not on a team with anyone

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:50 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:41 am this is obvious probably but to the extent that we thought epi and kitsu and whoever else looked good off nanook dying that’s now been voided given we know pawn killed nanook and likely was not on a team with anyone

we thought that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:15 am Assertion:

Tony wanted to chop Not Pawn because Pawn's flip outs him. Nobody else in this game can so clearly be associated with the notion that the mafia knew Pawn was 3P.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:38 am To be frank:

Until Tony provides a coherent explanation for "Pawn is 3P oh wait nevermind nope", I am considering him outed.

Not suspicious. Outed.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:36 am here is a thought

if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore

now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp

we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots

i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know

we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips

i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us

so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot

again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself

if that doesn’t apply fire away

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:38 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:36 am here is a thought

if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore

now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp

we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots

i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know

we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips

i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us

so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot

again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself

if that doesn’t apply fire away

Sorta stupid but I forgot about poll title. Daw probably just a wolf.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:11 am what if colin isn’t scum

i can’t say i feel that strongly that he is even though i see the points others are raising

they don’t particularly move me ig and he comes off pretty genuine to me

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:41 pm how could daw be a wolf though? its a character that one player has right? but mafia is presumably a team with a factional kill not one person

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:41 pm how could daw be a wolf though? its a character that one player has right? but mafia is presumably a team with a factional kill not one person

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:43 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:11 am what if colin isn’t scum

i can’t say i feel that strongly that he is even though i see the points others are raising

they don’t particularly move me ig and he comes off pretty genuine to me

I ride Jay Epi Alison to the bank

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:45 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:41 pm how could daw be a wolf though? its a character that one player has right? but mafia is presumably a team with a factional kill not one person

I dunno wolves are comic book characters? Jack of Hearts, Jack Daw, Jack some other Jack.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:19 am Tbh 3 scum feels like a lot though. Have we definitively said FG isn’t one? Because NANOOK’s death seems like a logical scum-NK to me

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am Pawn pretty much town sided with his kill then did nothing with it

in regards to Funny
1. Her EoD was wolfy
2. Her calling LC town, her counter train, was townie as shit, and super bad if she was a wolf
3. 2 gets completely invalidated because she was apparently lynchproof?...

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:50 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:48 am

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am Pawn pretty much town sided with his kill then did nothing with it

in regards to Funny
1. Her EoD was wolfy
2. Her calling LC town, her counter train, was townie as shit, and super bad if she was a wolf
3. 2 gets completely invalidated because she was apparently lynchproof?...

But the post suggested that Pawn killed nanook who was town.

I am not talking about Nanook in the slightest
I know what the flavor says about Nanook's death

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm Tony. Just say it. What about Girl Genius?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm Tony. Just say it. What about Girl Genius?

Since Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.

Wisp wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:52 pm @TonyStarkPrime what are u confused about? I explained that the first line was a mistake already, the second half of that posts is just my thoughts on Funny's alignment

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:58 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm Tony. Just say it. What about Girl Genius?

Since Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.

thats not ogi if that game is over

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm Tony. Just say it. What about Girl Genius?

Since Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:00 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm Tony. Just say it. What about Girl Genius?

Since Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.

Why did you think Pawn WAS 3P for ten seconds?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius

What’s the difference?

I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:32 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:51 pm So I have basically agreed with the town core all along but as always I have a fear that someone is being incorrectly cleared somewhere

If I had subbed in before nanook had died, I absolutely would have suspected him lol and he can roll in his grave for me expressing any contrarianism to the established poe, but having subbed into one of the poe'd slots and now knowing it's town, I have no choice but to assume someone is probably going deep here

Like i guess wolves could just be colin/alison/tsp but idk

I never really felt the daisy TR originally, then the redirected check or whatever was meh

hally/wisp/lc as close to mech clear as possible in this bastardish setup

jay.... prob just town

sabie idk honestly

kitsu i agree with the reasoning to clear

epi.... could be mafia here? the implication that mafia knew pawn was 3p doesn't seem to mesh with how he treated pawn though?


i guess my poe is something like
tsp > alison > colin > sabie > epi > daisy

talk to me about this ordering?

Also consider this: if mafia had a targeted redirector, they knew pawn was 3p. If mafia are truly poe clamped they probably want to leave pawn alive so he can kill townies with his extra KP (maybe even kill both investigatives in one night so we can't get any info). This suggests that wolf Epi does have a reason for defending pawn. Why is it inconsistent in your eyes?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:50 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:58 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:16 pm ready for this spice? jay/epi/alison, pawn is 3p

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:16 pm no, pawn isn't 3p. It can be Wilgy I guess

"oops, I wasn't supposed to know this"

I believe this could be a legit wolf slip

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:05 am I highlighted one moment here that spoke to me nicely. Colin seemed to become a bit indignant in his handling of pressure from Alison in such a way that I don't think it looks like he is dealing with his teammate. If he is a mafioso, then there is a release of frustration evident in that moment. A mafioso Colin might have also meant to pocket Alison with that initial "top town read" judgment.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius

What’s the difference?

I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.

He subbed in there — that’s funny. He has seven posts in five days in that game, none with game relevant content, and stuck around the whole time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:12 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius

What’s the difference?

I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.

He subbed in there — that’s funny. He has seven posts in five days in that game, none with game relevant content, and stuck around the whole time.

Definitely a difference in pace. When did you first notice this difference to drive your view that sprityo would be an unlikely serial killer in this game?

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:46 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:12 am we should start planning our actions

i think it would be a good idea for us to investigate nut? i really like the idea of having a confirmed town!nut if shes town. at the same time i thiiiink i may be able to pick out nuts village game as she posts more

epi is also a good choice for an investigation i think?

colin has claimed miller so we can vig or yeet him ig

i will voyeur whoever wisp and daisy decide to check

and whatever protective role we have (if we do have one) should pretty much always be on wisp

Playing Devil’s Advocate, what if Wisp is scum and that role is their way of getting fake claims to use? But they came across an opportunity to make him look like a good guy.

Or what if he and LC are on a team and they decided to pull that stunt together to move them to give them a secure spot in towncore? That’d be ballsy af. Just tossing around different ideas.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:58 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm Tony. Just say it. What about Girl Genius?

Since Sprityo subbed out I think this shouldn’t be discussed, but Sprityo was the serial killer in that game and played it substantially differently than he did here. It was enough for me to make an off the cuff post about it.

thats not ogi if that game is over

Inferences could be made about sprityo subbing out here that I didn’t and don’t want to get into here

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:36 am here is a thought

if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore

now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp

we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots

i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know

we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips

i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us

so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot

again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself

if that doesn’t apply fire away

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:06 pm sprityo in Girl Genius

What’s the difference?

I don’t think this is remotely angleshooting unless we’re dwelling in “all meta reads are angleshooting” philosophy.