TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 amwhat about wilgy?nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 amcolin and alison are my main suspects rnJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:27 am @nutella, if neither Tony nor Long Con is a mafioso, who is?
daisy, sabie, epi are kind of my fringe poe/wildcards
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I think that's a good reason to tie Alison and LC together lol. She has made it quite clear she will do what she feels is optimal for her mafia team rather than what "looks the best". Refusing to allow LC out of a town core is very much optimal if they're teamed.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 amall three of them? I don't think it disassociates colin and alison, but certainly LCJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:28 amI don't think that even dissociates them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:24 am man that's the greatest single post rebuttal to a scum team I've ever seen
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I don't think it's a good idea to dig into WIFOM thinking when assessing Alison.
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Yeah it also works for Alison/LC.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:32 amI think that's a good reason to tie Alison and LC together lol. She has made it quite clear she will do what she feels is optimal for her mafia team rather than what "looks the best". Refusing to allow LC out of a town core is very much optimal if they're teamed.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 amall three of them? I don't think it disassociates colin and alison, but certainly LCJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:28 amI don't think that even dissociates them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:24 am man that's the greatest single post rebuttal to a scum team I've ever seen
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Number of votes either has placed for the other: 0
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Colin and Tony interaction
I'm only extracting posts I feel really say something.
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Tony's confusing-ass posts make this very difficult for me to process. My instinct is to separate these two, but I cannot claim to be confident. Colin's treatment of Tony could be a bit opportunistic if he's a mafioso.
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Tony wanted to chop Not Pawn because Pawn's flip outs him. Nobody else in this game can so clearly be associated with the notion that the mafia knew Pawn was 3P.
Tony wanted to chop Not Pawn because Pawn's flip outs him. Nobody else in this game can so clearly be associated with the notion that the mafia knew Pawn was 3P.
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I think it's super funny that a slot that had "two personalities" (sprityo and Pawn) ended up flipping a character that has two personalities
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Colin and Wilgy/nutella interaction
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I'd feel better if there was any substance here pre-nutella. She just got here in a very developed game context, so it is difficult for me to give a lot of weight to her posts here. The bit where nutella mused over Colin potentially showing TMI on her predecessor spoke to me a little bit. I'd say these two are technically compatible if not necessarily compelling.
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If this PoE is in order I'm fairly happyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:34 pm I'm feeling this as an emergent POE pool. I would like to more thoroughly investigate the two-way interactions with actual public notes. I will try to work on that during this night phase as best as I can.
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no particular orderAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:29 amIf this PoE is in order I'm fairly happyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:34 pm I'm feeling this as an emergent POE pool. I would like to more thoroughly investigate the two-way interactions with actual public notes. I will try to work on that during this night phase as best as I can.
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talk to me about this ordering?nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:51 pm So I have basically agreed with the town core all along but as always I have a fear that someone is being incorrectly cleared somewhere
If I had subbed in before nanook had died, I absolutely would have suspected him lol and he can roll in his grave for me expressing any contrarianism to the established poe, but having subbed into one of the poe'd slots and now knowing it's town, I have no choice but to assume someone is probably going deep here
Like i guess wolves could just be colin/alison/tsp but idk
I never really felt the daisy TR originally, then the redirected check or whatever was meh
hally/wisp/lc as close to mech clear as possible in this bastardish setup
jay.... prob just town
sabie idk honestly
kitsu i agree with the reasoning to clear
epi.... could be mafia here? the implication that mafia knew pawn was 3p doesn't seem to mesh with how he treated pawn though?
i guess my poe is something like
tsp > alison > colin > sabie > epi > daisy
Also consider this: if mafia had a targeted redirector, they knew pawn was 3p. If mafia are truly poe clamped they probably want to leave pawn alive so he can kill townies with his extra KP (maybe even kill both investigatives in one night so we can't get any info). This suggests that wolf Epi does have a reason for defending pawn. Why is it inconsistent in your eyes?
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Because nanook wanted to vote Colin and I wanted him to vote LC, who I suspected at the time. So i was trying to engage him in a comparison between the two players to get him to vote my wayJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:05 am It was this little progression. Nanook did not explicitly draw any connection between Colin and Long Con, so the way Alison structured her question makes Colin's inclusion feel forced. I don't know why that needs to be presented as an LC vs. Colin comparison.
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agree with this postHally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:12 am we should start planning our actions
i think it would be a good idea for us to investigate nut? i really like the idea of having a confirmed town!nut if shes town. at the same time i thiiiink i may be able to pick out nuts village game as she posts more
epi is also a good choice for an investigation i think?
colin has claimed miller so we can vig or yeet him ig
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He thinks im scummy i think? Not really sureJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:15 amTony's mafia. His "suspicion" of me has been vague horseshit all game long. He can hardly stick a random take into the thread without immediately pulling back on it. He has no real opinions of anything.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:35 am yeah that's right. I wasn't really thinking about it.
Each of you out there: I challenge you to tell me what TonyStarkPrime's read is on you -- not what takes he has given on assorted posts, but what his read is.
I see some assorted speculation that I am colin's partner and I should be investigated at night
1) i welcome you to help me exe my wolf buddy if you believe in alison/colin worlds, as I believe colin is one od the most appealing exes next day phase
2) i welcome an investigate on me as well. I think the investigate should go between nutella, me and Epi. If you're paranoid I am misleading you, just investigate me
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why notTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:43 amI'm not talking about those reasons and will not because I was clearly wrong. But it doesn't make sense for a wolf, especially a wolf who knows that pawn is the SK (but I don't think the wolves did know that), to present that as a thought.
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I see no good reason to dissociate these two. There are some isolated moments, primarily in Epignosis' posts, that I think could indicate mafia compatibility too. Namely, Epi was vaguely negative when Colin had no content to speak of. As soon as Colin showed up though, Epi was content to give him passes on the basis of very frivolous shite. I can forgive "I'll leave him alone since he has been gone from the site for a while". I struggle to forgive "he has given more effort", especially when it had to come with the "it's not about Colin's alignment" caveat. These two can be mafia teammates.
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I see no good reason to dissociate these two. There are some isolated moments, primarily in Epignosis' posts, that I think could indicate mafia compatibility too. Namely, Epi was vaguely negative when Colin had no content to speak of. As soon as Colin showed up though, Epi was content to give him passes on the basis of very frivolous shite. I can forgive "I'll leave him alone since he has been gone from the site for a while". I struggle to forgive "he has given more effort", especially when it had to come with the "it's not about Colin's alignment" caveat. These two can be mafia teammates.
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why would i be freed from colin suspicionnutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:27 amI would lean more toward the latterTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:23 amthis is weird too. maybe it points to Alison/colin being unaligned? or maybe the idea is w!alison is freed from colin suspicion when pawn flips not wolf. unclear
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maybe b/c we're both intelligent players who understand that the other person is not getting exed d1 or d2 and prefer to use voting agency in more productive ways?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:48 am Estimated number of times Epignosis has voiced suspicion of Alison: 9-11
Estimated number of times Alison has voiced suspicion of Epignosis: 6-8
Numbers vary because I don't want a single discussion of numerous posts to count more than once.
Number of votes either has placed for the other: 0
(also, if this is meant to imply an epi/alison wolf team, do you really think epi "i do not bus" gnosis treats his teammate the way he has treated me?)
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I believe this could be a legit wolf slip
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If I was LC's wolf buddy there I would 100% hard defend him, yes. Weird thing to bring up though? Like do you suspect LC or what?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:32 amI think that's a good reason to tie Alison and LC together lol. She has made it quite clear she will do what she feels is optimal for her mafia team rather than what "looks the best". Refusing to allow LC out of a town core is very much optimal if they're teamed.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 amall three of them? I don't think it disassociates colin and alison, but certainly LCJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:28 amI don't think that even dissociates them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:24 am man that's the greatest single post rebuttal to a scum team I've ever seen
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Not really. My larger concern there was that Tony's mindset made no sense to me.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:52 amIf I was LC's wolf buddy there I would 100% hard defend him, yes. Weird thing to bring up though? Like do you suspect LC or what?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:32 amI think that's a good reason to tie Alison and LC together lol. She has made it quite clear she will do what she feels is optimal for her mafia team rather than what "looks the best". Refusing to allow LC out of a town core is very much optimal if they're teamed.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:29 amall three of them? I don't think it disassociates colin and alison, but certainly LCJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:28 amI don't think that even dissociates them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:24 am man that's the greatest single post rebuttal to a scum team I've ever seen
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Colin > epi > TSP > nutella
Just realized that we should probably focus investigates on the nonmiller slots so SD and Wisp can both be on them. I can't remember if Epi claimed miller - he would be a good investigation target if not.
Colin > epi > TSP > nutella
Just realized that we should probably focus investigates on the nonmiller slots so SD and Wisp can both be on them. I can't remember if Epi claimed miller - he would be a good investigation target if not.
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1) Mr legitimate wolf slip is 3rd?Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:59 am PoE, ordered from most to least preferred exes
Colin > epi > TSP > nutella
Just realized that we should probably focus investigates on the nonmiller slots so SD and Wisp can both be on them. I can't remember if Epi claimed miller - he would be a good investigation target if not.
2) How do you feel Pawn's flip reflects on Epignosis?
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I highlighted one moment here that spoke to me nicely. Colin seemed to become a bit indignant in his handling of pressure from Alison in such a way that I don't think it looks like he is dealing with his teammate. If he is a mafioso, then there is a release of frustration evident in that moment. A mafioso Colin might have also meant to pocket Alison with that initial "top town read" judgment.
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I highlighted one moment here that spoke to me nicely. Colin seemed to become a bit indignant in his handling of pressure from Alison in such a way that I don't think it looks like he is dealing with his teammate. If he is a mafioso, then there is a release of frustration evident in that moment. A mafioso Colin might have also meant to pocket Alison with that initial "top town read" judgment.
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I think what you posted was something I think can be a wolf slip. It doesn't mean it is a wolf slip. I have seen town members "slip" before. I was also swayed by nutella's argument that town TSP is a bit less organized and that rapid fire posting is a slight towntell. I did take the possibility of it being a slip into account and adjusted his place on my PoE accordingly.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:02 am1) Mr legitimate wolf slip is 3rd?Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:59 am PoE, ordered from most to least preferred exes
Colin > epi > TSP > nutella
Just realized that we should probably focus investigates on the nonmiller slots so SD and Wisp can both be on them. I can't remember if Epi claimed miller - he would be a good investigation target if not.
2) How do you feel Pawn's flip reflects on Epignosis?
Don't think it really affects my read on Epi that much. If he had flipped wolf then Epi would be my #1 suspect, but he didn't. I think wolf Epi has incentives to defend 3P there (or town, if the redirector was random and he did not know Pawn was 3P) but I have no extra reason to believe Epi is scum based off the Pawn flip. So my read on Epi remains largely unchanged.
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I don't think these two are mafia teammates. If Colin is a mafioso, then his takes on Kitsu follow a predictable progression: <<Kitsu is town via angleshoot, I guess I have to say that>> | <<okay maybe now I can try to put a dent in Kitsu's armor>>
Kitsu's only post kinda screams at me too. Just doesn't look like teammate stuff.
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Kitsu's only post kinda screams at me too. Just doesn't look like teammate stuff.
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he must have a really bad understanding of my personality if he believes that I am the kind of person who townreads someone just because they townread meJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:05 am A mafioso Colin might have also meant to pocket Alison with that initial "top town read" judgment.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
kAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:13 amI think what you posted was something I think can be a wolf slip. It doesn't mean it is a wolf slip. I have seen town members "slip" before. I was also swayed by nutella's argument that town TSP is a bit less organized and that rapid fire posting is a slight towntell. I did take the possibility of it being a slip into account and adjusted his place on my PoE accordingly.
validAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:13 amDon't think it really affects my read on Epi that much. If he had flipped wolf then Epi would be my #1 suspect, but he didn't. I think wolf Epi has incentives to defend 3P there (or town, if the redirector was random and he did not know Pawn was 3P) but I have no extra reason to believe Epi is scum based off the Pawn flip. So my read on Epi remains largely unchanged.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
A note that may apply to both Tony and Epignosis is that, beyond hoping for a serial killer to eliminate more civilians just by chance, is that actively defending Pawn reduce's Pawn's incentive to shoot them.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
oh hey, speaking of colin's "top town read" on me. where did that go? I totally forgot he had it, and my last interactions with him have not felt like I was talking to someone who reads me as town the most out of everyone in the game.
[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] what happened to that read on me?
[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] what happened to that read on me?
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Tony and DrWilgy/nutella interactions
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I get nothing out of Tony's or Wilgy's posts. In terms of tone I don't think nutella really sounds like she has just jumped into the game and started chatting up her teammate Tony. Still, she also let him out of her POE pool entirely which is hard to stomach. They're technically compatible; again not super compelling.
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I get nothing out of Tony's or Wilgy's posts. In terms of tone I don't think nutella really sounds like she has just jumped into the game and started chatting up her teammate Tony. Still, she also let him out of her POE pool entirely which is hard to stomach. They're technically compatible; again not super compelling.
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To be frank:
Until Tony provides a coherent explanation for "Pawn is 3P oh wait nevermind nope", I am considering him outed.
Not suspicious. Outed.
Until Tony provides a coherent explanation for "Pawn is 3P oh wait nevermind nope", I am considering him outed.
Not suspicious. Outed.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
i think nutella is ok
like if she's bad she'll be caught really fast, and if she's not bad she's probably going to be a useful asset to town. she's generating decent content both in material and volume. If she is town it may be useful that she was evidently tracking the game as a spectator before, because it means she has more objective/unbiased reads that she can port over from the time she was a spectator.
aren't you glad you didn't exe that slot?
like if she's bad she'll be caught really fast, and if she's not bad she's probably going to be a useful asset to town. she's generating decent content both in material and volume. If she is town it may be useful that she was evidently tracking the game as a spectator before, because it means she has more objective/unbiased reads that she can port over from the time she was a spectator.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 1)
Tony is a mafioso that knows my more extreme speculations about the setup ratios were off-base. He has no reason to question this given his own experience at HCRealms. 11v4 would be ordinary as hell there, and 10v5 isn't that different from the 9v4 I literally played there.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:54 pmdid I miss this the first time?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:31 am Note that we need to remain in a state of high urgency at all times. Jack is a host from the HC Realms tree, and that means we cannot trust conventional assumptions about how alignments may be distributed. When I see 15 players, I tend to assume 12 vs. 3 is the most standard. With Jack though, I will not count out 11 vs. 4 or even 10 vs. 5 (with potential independent involvement too). It depends upon the arrangements of the roles he has decided to feature.
The point is that we cannot fart around in a Jack game. Play hard at all times or suffer the consequences.
Epi's reaction is accurate.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Tony and Epignosis interactions
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I don't see a reason to separate these two. There's a little bit of animosity sprinkled around these posts, but the follow-up tends to be limited or lacking outright. The accusations are soft. They are compatible enough.
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I don't see a reason to separate these two. There's a little bit of animosity sprinkled around these posts, but the follow-up tends to be limited or lacking outright. The accusations are soft. They are compatible enough.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
I think tony is within his usual town meta, but I can also see how some of the things he has said like that thing about pawn could make him more sketchy.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Generally speaking, a I’ve said before that HCRealms games are a lot different.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:30 pmGenerally agreed, but HCRealms may not. Anyway I think 3 is most likely.
For instance, Incouldnt understand why some people were saying it was useless to try and figure out the write ups. At Realms, those are almost as important as the night actions.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
worth noting that the write up did contain important information, insofar as we were able to deduce pawn was an SK (as opposed to a jester or any other kind of 3P) because of the flavor.
I don't really agree with embedding game relevant info in flavor, but we work with what we have, not what we want
I don't really agree with embedding game relevant info in flavor, but we work with what we have, not what we want
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
Playing Devil’s Advocate, what if Wisp is scum and that role is their way of getting fake claims to use? But they came across an opportunity to make him look like a good guy.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:12 am we should start planning our actions
i think it would be a good idea for us to investigate nut? i really like the idea of having a confirmed town!nut if shes town. at the same time i thiiiink i may be able to pick out nuts village game as she posts more
epi is also a good choice for an investigation i think?
colin has claimed miller so we can vig or yeet him ig
i will voyeur whoever wisp and daisy decide to check
and whatever protective role we have (if we do have one) should pretty much always be on wisp
Or what if he and LC are on a team and they decided to pull that stunt together to move them to give them a secure spot in towncore? That’d be ballsy af. Just tossing around different ideas.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
according to the rules of the game (listed on the first page), all the scum are already given fake claims. if wisp is scum they do not need to go to extra effort to obtain fake claims - they will have one given to them by the host.
if wisp and LC are on a team together, then hally wouldn't have detected wisp investigating LC's role. so none of those possibilities are likely.
if wisp and LC are on a team together, then hally wouldn't have detected wisp investigating LC's role. so none of those possibilities are likely.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
i thought you claimed miller thoughAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:41 amHe thinks im scummy i think? Not really sureJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:15 amTony's mafia. His "suspicion" of me has been vague horseshit all game long. He can hardly stick a random take into the thread without immediately pulling back on it. He has no real opinions of anything.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:35 am yeah that's right. I wasn't really thinking about it.
Each of you out there: I challenge you to tell me what TonyStarkPrime's read is on you -- not what takes he has given on assorted posts, but what his read is.
I see some assorted speculation that I am colin's partner and I should be investigated at night
1) i welcome you to help me exe my wolf buddy if you believe in alison/colin worlds, as I believe colin is one od the most appealing exes next day phase
2) i welcome an investigate on me as well. I think the investigate should go between nutella, me and Epi. If you're paranoid I am misleading you, just investigate me
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
he did notAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:59 am PoE, ordered from most to least preferred exes
Colin > epi > TSP > nutella
Just realized that we should probably focus investigates on the nonmiller slots so SD and Wisp can both be on them. I can't remember if Epi claimed miller - he would be a good investigation target if not.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
this is a good pointJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:20 am A note that may apply to both Tony and Epignosis is that, beyond hoping for a serial killer to eliminate more civilians just by chance, is that actively defending Pawn reduce's Pawn's incentive to shoot them.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
i struggle to believe tony slips that badly but it certainly needs to be explained better than he has so farJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:38 am To be frank:
Until Tony provides a coherent explanation for "Pawn is 3P oh wait nevermind nope", I am considering him outed.
Not suspicious. Outed.
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
That’s one of my biggest problems, tbh. Maybe not so much here, but in game style in general. I get excited and want to share my thoughts, but should probably think them through/hold onto them for a bit and reread before posting.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:15 am This is one of those times where a thought process could have used some censorship
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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Night 2)
here is a thought
if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore
now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp
we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots
i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know
we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips
i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us
so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot
again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself
if that doesn’t apply fire away
if jack daw is a town vig and knows that their kill janitors the flips of their target, they shouldn’t shoot anymore
now that we’ve yeeted the sk, the balance of the game is in towns favor because we’ve just removed a source of anti town kp
we dont really need a vig shooting now if it’s gonna mean we get no flips from the shots
i promise we’ll regret it when its like D4 and we have three flips in the PoE pool whose alignments we don’t even know
we need to be able to make connections and actually solve for the team and we can’t do that with missing flips
i can foresee a horror story down the line where we vig scum and don’t know it and the teammate who are left are able to exploit the lack of flips to screw us
so i think if jack daw is town they shouldn’t shoot
again, this only applies to if you know for a fact your kill was the reason fg didn’t flip and not because of fg herself
if that doesn’t apply fire away
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