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Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 am
by Syn
zack is town

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:43 am
by outed wolf
What about you syn, you got a fresh perspective on the game

Who's villagery to you

Wolfy?

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:57 am
by outed wolf
[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

ah fuck it i think dya is a villa

YEEHAW

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:01 am
by nutella
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:57 am [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

ah fuck it i think dya is a villa

YEEHAW
i cant shake my paranoia for spf but i dont think it's a today problem

would go for syn first if not dya

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:02 am
by outed wolf
when i say yee

you say haw, damnit

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:05 am
by staypositivefriend
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:57 am [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

ah fuck it i think dya is a villa

YEEHAW
why do u think dya is a villager?

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:06 am
by staypositivefriend
i have been increasingly worried about a scenario where dya is in fact a villager and the reason the gamestate feels dead is because the wolves know they have an easy path to victory

but that's a read based more on fear than on logic, so im not stressing myself out about it too much rn

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:07 am
by staypositivefriend
nutella wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:01 am
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:57 am [VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

ah fuck it i think dya is a villa

YEEHAW
i cant shake my paranoia for spf but i dont think it's a today problem

would go for syn first if not dya
i encourage u to be paranoid of me, but if you do end up legitimately fos'ing me, i would just ask you to read through my ISO again. i get the impression that there's like a 70% chance that your read on me is a paranoia read that will go away when you look at my posts again

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:08 am
by staypositivefriend
Syn wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 am
Marluxion wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:37 am idk
it seems like everyone's wim is low, so my motivation to put in a lot of work is lacking too
not even a whole page in the 10 hours since i slept

prob go syn after dyachei if they are wolf
probably spf if dya is town unless dya has any specific direction they want us to go
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isnt outed wolf ur top wolfread? why do u agree w/this post when it doesn't mention killing your number one wolfread at any point in the near future?

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 3]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:11 am
by Arete
Arete wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:23 am
Outed Wolf is never a wolf with Vulgard
Spoiler: show
outed wolf wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:40 pm
Arete wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:37 pm
outed wolf wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:32 pm
Arete wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:29 pm
outed wolf wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:31 pm
Arete wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:29 pm
his godread on me is real and supported by an extensive history of games as both V/V and V/W
much like his extensive history of games with seth eh?
I'm sort of mrrr about how Outed Wolf is trying to discredit townreads on me/reasons to townread me without actually pushing for me to get killed (or even really expressing more than a slight scumread on me)
it kind of feels like he's trying to make sure that I'm a viable push for the future but doesn't want to get his hands dirty pushing me now
LOL
hilarious post - i said i thought you were a villager yesterday, the post is making light of vulgard not you
alright, what was your motivation behind discrediting Vul's reads?
... because he was wrong? he spent like 80 posts yesterday saying how much of a gavial god reader he was and that we couldnt let gavial slip away and we had to kill gavial
with his EXTENSIVE history of catching gavial and hes NEVER BEEN WRONG BEFORE
and he was wrong.
W R O N G
R
O
N
G
INCORRECT
NOT RIGHT
so i gave him a bit of shit for it
This post ~never comes from a partner in my opinion, there's no need to try to rub your partner's face in how they were WRONG and BAD and MISREAD SOMEONE IN A GAME OF MAFIA when you in fact have TMI that they they didn't do that. It's relevant to me that he wasn't (in this post) trying to shade him off of it, which is what I would expect from distancing, but rather to make fun of him, which doesn't make sense from the PoV of a wolf talking about another wolf.
@Syn

can you glance at this paragraph and tell me what you think

IMO the Outed Wolf/Vul associations are very unlikely to be W/W (for this and other reasons, but I think this one is way less likely to be distancing)

(I also don't think Outed Wolf would repeatedly go out of his way to say that I suck at the game as W but this is a weaker point)

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:12 am
by Arete
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:08 am
Syn wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 am
Marluxion wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:37 am idk
it seems like everyone's wim is low, so my motivation to put in a lot of work is lacking too
not even a whole page in the 10 hours since i slept

prob go syn after dyachei if they are wolf
probably spf if dya is town unless dya has any specific direction they want us to go
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isnt outed wolf ur top wolfread? why do u agree w/this post when it doesn't mention killing your number one wolfread at any point in the near future?
isn't the nodding head dude, like, always sarcastic

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:13 am
by staypositivefriend
Arete wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:12 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:08 am
Syn wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 am
Marluxion wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:37 am idk
it seems like everyone's wim is low, so my motivation to put in a lot of work is lacking too
not even a whole page in the 10 hours since i slept

prob go syn after dyachei if they are wolf
probably spf if dya is town unless dya has any specific direction they want us to go
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isnt outed wolf ur top wolfread? why do u agree w/this post when it doesn't mention killing your number one wolfread at any point in the near future?
isn't the nodding head dude, like, always sarcastic
oh, is it? i thought it signaled like, enthusiastic agreement lol

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:14 am
by staypositivefriend
hey arete, who do you think you have the highest chance of misreading in the people outside of your current POE?

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:19 am
by outed wolf
"(I also don't think Outed Wolf would repeatedly go out of his way to say that I suck at the game as W but this is a weaker point)"

im not trying to say you suck at the game, i was intending my posts to be good natured ribbing (though i do dislike the godread stuff that has become common recently - but thats a general trend more than specific to you)

sorry regardless, i'll refrain in future

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:23 am
by Arete
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:14 am hey arete, who do you think you have the highest chance of misreading in the people outside of your current POE?
hm

my current not-PoE is (Amy)/Marl/Visor/Bronana/Dizzy

out of those I think my reasons for clearing Bronana are the weakest since my reasons for clearing him are essentially his shade on Vul D2 + the specific way Vul approached his read on him, both of which are probably fakeable by experienced wolfteam

if I had to arrange reads by 'how strong are the best reasons I have for townreading them' it looks something like

Amy > Marl > Outed Wolf > [c4 given Dya wolf] > Dizzy > Bronana > [if this PoE is correct we have enough exes to kill everyone after this line + me] > SPF > [c4 given Dya V] > Syn > Dya

which is a pretty boring readlist but there are a bunch of people who are obviously not partnered with Vul

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:08 am
by bronana
Marluxion wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:38 am if syn is town PROBABLY Arete but idfk
i think bronana is a wolf if both chloe and dyachei are town actually
Syn wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 amzack is town
why? to both of you
Arete wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:12 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:08 am
Syn wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 am
Marluxion wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:37 am idk
it seems like everyone's wim is low, so my motivation to put in a lot of work is lacking too
not even a whole page in the 10 hours since i slept

prob go syn after dyachei if they are wolf
probably spf if dya is town unless dya has any specific direction they want us to go
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isnt outed wolf ur top wolfread? why do u agree w/this post when it doesn't mention killing your number one wolfread at any point in the near future?
isn't the nodding head dude, like, always sarcastic
wait, you don't know who jack nicholson is? :huh:

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:10 am
by bronana
it's possible i'm clearing visor too easily, i am sponging sunbae a lot on that one

the unexplained "i now think dya is a villager" after he tunneled them for the whole game weirds me out

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:11 am
by bronana
plus he didn't respond at all to me posting bonito-pasta

highly suspicious

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:19 am
by Marluxion
nutellas posting has been really bad since day 2

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:20 am
by Marluxion
if dya is v i think nut is >>rand w as well prob

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:27 am
by nutella
i think my thought process is pretty clear in my posts, i've changed my mind on things in the moment to an extent i can't replicate as a wolf

if dya flips v i'd prob expect some scrutiny but i think it's evident that my read on them has been real, there have been points i was near 100% sure they're a wolf and points i've wavered

have been kinda more wavering today but think syn is a likely hit regardless of dya's flip, and if thats not right i would look at c4/spf next

i don't really want to make a definitive flowchart atp, kinda just want a flip for sure to go off of

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:28 am
by outed wolf
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:10 am it's possible i'm clearing visor too easily, i am sponging sunbae a lot on that one

the unexplained "i now think dya is a villager" after he tunneled them for the whole game weirds me out
i only did it to see what people would say lol

guess i shoudlve expanded it out

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:31 am
by bronana
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:28 am
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:10 am it's possible i'm clearing visor too easily, i am sponging sunbae a lot on that one

the unexplained "i now think dya is a villager" after he tunneled them for the whole game weirds me out
i only did it to see what people would say lol

guess i shoudlve expanded it out
yeah i figured that was reasonably likely

this is the point where people get bored and/or paranoid cause the thread's been so stagnant

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:33 am
by nutella
also like... i hate lategame lol. d1 is always my highest effort day and i tend to fall off d2+, and don't like going back to earlier stuff for solving / just kinda feel weak at it maybe because i'm often used to dying early (and getting strongly meta-read as town on d1 leading to getting nk'd early and causing a cycle etc...) though i have had some strong town lategame performances, like grasslands where i caught spf at the end (the memory of that and being proud of it is prob feeding into my tinfoil of her here)

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:34 am
by bronana
wolfy over-explanation :noble:

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:36 am
by outed wolf
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:31 am
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:28 am
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:10 am it's possible i'm clearing visor too easily, i am sponging sunbae a lot on that one

the unexplained "i now think dya is a villager" after he tunneled them for the whole game weirds me out
i only did it to see what people would say lol

guess i shoudlve expanded it out
yeah i figured that was reasonably likely

this is the point where people get bored and/or paranoid cause the thread's been so stagnant
ye

when nobody is talking everyone goes

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Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:37 am
by nutella
like i have no strong urge to backread for solving rn because it mostly just feels like we're on the right track with the poe, and it's nice others are pulling up vulgard spew and stuff but i think we're at a point it can still be easy world and i'm not doing that extra work in case it is lol

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:38 am
by nutella
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:34 am wolfy over-explanation :noble:
imagine being able to write anything longer than ten words as a wolf

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:39 am
by nutella
today's quietness sure does mean that either dya is just a wolf or they're not

it's one of the two

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:39 am
by Marluxion
i'm not opposed to maybe going syn today but i need more from dyachei on their thought processes to why they think chloe/syn/tan is scum

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 am
by outed wolf
gah

rereading dyas d1 and

i think we might be on the wrong track here folks

i think i lead us into a dark corner pals

i feel legit terrible saying this and regardless of result im gonna feel bad about what ive done this game (remind me to only sign up for games i have time to actually think about next time)

i think dya might actually be a villager

i think i jumped the gun too quickly on stuff

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 am
by staypositivefriend
@outed wolf - why do u fos me

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 am
by staypositivefriend
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 am gah

rereading dyas d1 and

i think we might be on the wrong track here folks

i think i lead us into a dark corner pals

i feel legit terrible saying this and regardless of result im gonna feel bad about what ive done this game (remind me to only sign up for games i have time to actually think about next time)

i think dya might actually be a villager

i think i jumped the gun too quickly on stuff
can you expand on that a bit? what pushes you into feeling like dya is a villager? what are the main things on your mind?

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:44 am
by outed wolf
[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

for now i guess

idk, yall probably shouldnt trust me on this shit at all and very likely i am overthinking regardless

just rereading that iso and seeing the other games dya has played on here

theres a lot of substance there i forgot or missed

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:46 am
by bronana
what do you think of the possibility of arete/syn

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:47 am
by outed wolf
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 am
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:43 am gah

rereading dyas d1 and

i think we might be on the wrong track here folks

i think i lead us into a dark corner pals

i feel legit terrible saying this and regardless of result im gonna feel bad about what ive done this game (remind me to only sign up for games i have time to actually think about next time)

i think dya might actually be a villager

i think i jumped the gun too quickly on stuff
can you expand on that a bit? what pushes you into feeling like dya is a villager? what are the main things on your mind?
dyas got a bit of bite and more substance to their posts than i remembered

just the way some of their posts are worded on d1 reminds me of villa dya

got i even said it d1 that dya can be slow to start and i just ignored my own advice.

fuck it we YEEHAW gang now

@dyachei

VILLAGE GANG RISE UP

im taking you to endgame dya whether you like it or not

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:48 am
by outed wolf
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:46 am what do you think of the possibility of arete/syn
part of me wants to just clear arete for the vulgard stuff though i dont super like it

syn posts not really doing it for me so i can see that

i mean its theoretically possible i guess

what do you think about it?

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:50 am
by outed wolf
i mean if im misclearign dya now after the lolcats and stuff

i would feel even more awful

lolme!

fuck it

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:52 am
by nutella
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:50 am i mean if im misclearign dya now after the lolcats and stuff

i would feel even more awful

lolme!

fuck it
lol mood

but yeah i feel like theyve had more of the spark than ive given them credit for and have kinda set them on the backfoot all game

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:53 am
by outed wolf
FUCK IT

in for a penny, in for a pound

syns a villager, we've been wrong all game and got lucky

SPFs a wolf

fucking yeehaw

LETS GO

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 am
by bronana
outed wolf wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:48 am
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:46 am what do you think of the possibility of arete/syn
part of me wants to just clear arete for the vulgard stuff though i dont super like it

syn posts not really doing it for me so i can see that

i mean its theoretically possible i guess

what do you think about it?
i don't know what syn is doing but he doesn't seem to really be solving that much and i have issues with the previous occupants of the slot and also vulgard treated them in a partner-y way

arete's stuff (this day, this game in general) is not doing a ton for me and their d3 just feels wack and agenda-driven. I have a hard time believing they genuinely believed "vulgard is 99% a villager" and that it was good village play to hard shield him and go nuts on sunbae. like, wtf, that made no sense for sunbae to do that as a wolf, how can you be so arrogant about your townread on vulgard in that situation? seems wild to me

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 am
by nutella
i dont think visor is ~ever wolf with vulgard here and don't think arete is either. would go bronana before either. but my gut tells me spf is the pick for deepwolf

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:55 am
by outed wolf
@bronana

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Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:56 am
by bronana
nutella wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 am i dont think visor is ~ever wolf with vulgard here and don't think arete is either. would go bronana before either. but my gut tells me spf is the pick for deepwolf
how is arete never a wolf with vulgard???

their d3 play was blatantly pro-wolf, it served the wolf agenda

look i am sorry if they are town and this makes them feel bad but come on, clearing them for that is insane

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:56 am
by nutella
maybe I'll look into a syn/spf hypothesis tomorrow? but tbh based on spfs post about c4 today I think spf and c4 are likely either w/w or v/v

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:56 am
by outed wolf
@nutella

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this one is for the dead villas cmon

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:57 am
by staypositivefriend
@outed wolf - why do u fos me

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:57 am
by outed wolf
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:56 am
nutella wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 am i dont think visor is ~ever wolf with vulgard here and don't think arete is either. would go bronana before either. but my gut tells me spf is the pick for deepwolf
how is arete never a wolf with vulgard???

their d3 play was blatantly pro-wolf, it served the wolf agenda

look i am sorry if they are town and this makes them feel bad but come on, clearing them for that is insane
ido agree with this fwiw

i would almost always kill arete the day before lylo just in case

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:57 am
by nutella
bronana wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:56 am
nutella wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 am i dont think visor is ~ever wolf with vulgard here and don't think arete is either. would go bronana before either. but my gut tells me spf is the pick for deepwolf
how is arete never a wolf with vulgard???

their d3 play was blatantly pro-wolf, it served the wolf agenda

look i am sorry if they are town and this makes them feel bad but come on, clearing them for that is insane
I had them as lock wolf briefly during the vulgard thing but they were just so real I no longer saw it that way

Re: PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:59 am
by outed wolf
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:57 am @outed wolf - why do u fos me
because you're a clever mfer

and im running out of people to push