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if this list from hally was completely wrong then i dont think sprit would have attacked it as passively aggressively as he did here. his aggressiveness toward hally for outing this POE probably indicates that the POE is on the right track
Oh I know I did, no question. I still expect it. 22 players requires extra kill power, it didn't come N1...but it stands to reason that it is coming. I expect a couple of town vigs and multiple wolf kills.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:54 pmNo that was definitely youTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pmDidn't you?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 pmHe's referenced a bloodbath tonight multiple timesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
this is probably trueMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:55 pmAnd Nanook would be less wrong if he was mafia.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:53 pmnah i think it's because sprityo doesn't do this "i smell like lavendar, townread me plz!" stuff with a buddy lolHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:52 pmdid nook just tr every member of the scum teamMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmNook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
why is that anti-aligned again?
yesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:57 pmI'm pretty onboard with all of this, particularly want to highlight that I think Samu needs looking into.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm I assume the correct play after clearing out JPIC is to just mow down the rest of the POE.
I'm not a huge fan of how ted didn't do much today, not sure if the interaction with nutella balances that out. Wilgy has done fuck all after a decent tone Day 1 and some really sketchy pushes, so he goes in the POE too. Long Con is in the POE as well, and so is Dizzy. Mow them all down, and then re-evaluate the gamestate after that and figure out who was wrongly townread. Trust the hard towncore still, but start opening up your mind to possibilities of dyachei or samu or whoever being scum if the game doesn't end after that POE is cleared. I probably won't be alive by then so I can't tell you what to do there since obviously it depends on what happens in the day phases after I die.
We have two flips and no town dead with a towncore of what I consider very good players. The best thing for us to do is to actually solve the game the way town are meant to solve the game. Let's be mountainous for a while.
there is almost definitely one mafia involved here and it's prolly just JPICsprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:00 pmSo this whole interaction Tutuu has with JPIC, Nutella, and SPF really rubs me the wrong way.Spoiler: show
Why is JPIC suddenly not mafia and suddenly town? He wasn't ever in trouble of getting lynched either as far as i can tell. then we have the transition of them trying to make Tim a counter wagon????
1. I dont think that wouldve ever happened.
2. Why suddenly do we need a counter wagon?
There has to be something alignment indicative within these posts. The way I see it is:
-JPIC is Town and trying to be pocketed by Tutuu for whatever reason
-SPF is Town or Mafia and just happens to be the target for that switch
-Nutella is Mafia with Tutuu and she does a halfhearted Counterwagon but doesnt want to try and get all of the people off of the huge wagon now formed. If it failed it would of course look bad. So she resign to "you should totally legacy read, sucks to be you"
-Nutella is Town and Tutuu is Mafia. Tutuu of course knows this and is trying to buy credit with the counter wagon attempt. "Aw man, I knew she was town" type of situation.
I dont think the last one is likely but I won't discount it.
i mean we know there’s at least three mafia in the bottom section. who knows how many morestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:58 pmif this list from hally was completely wrong then i dont think sprit would have attacked it as passively aggressively as he did here. his aggressiveness toward hally for outing this POE probably indicates that the POE is on the right track
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pmthere is almost definitely one mafia involved here and it's prolly just JPICsprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:00 pmSo this whole interaction Tutuu has with JPIC, Nutella, and SPF really rubs me the wrong way.Spoiler: show
Why is JPIC suddenly not mafia and suddenly town? He wasn't ever in trouble of getting lynched either as far as i can tell. then we have the transition of them trying to make Tim a counter wagon????
1. I dont think that wouldve ever happened.
2. Why suddenly do we need a counter wagon?
There has to be something alignment indicative within these posts. The way I see it is:
-JPIC is Town and trying to be pocketed by Tutuu for whatever reason
-SPF is Town or Mafia and just happens to be the target for that switch
-Nutella is Mafia with Tutuu and she does a halfhearted Counterwagon but doesnt want to try and get all of the people off of the huge wagon now formed. If it failed it would of course look bad. So she resign to "you should totally legacy read, sucks to be you"
-Nutella is Town and Tutuu is Mafia. Tutuu of course knows this and is trying to buy credit with the counter wagon attempt. "Aw man, I knew she was town" type of situation.
I dont think the last one is likely but I won't discount it.
i have little trouble believing that this is town/town actuallyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
honestly i am going out of my way to ignore the people who SR me because i know i'll get too annoyed/frustrated if i don't. tutuu wrote a post explaining why she SR me and i refuted it and she kept hardtunneling me. if i cant engage with someone logically then there's not much else i can do, tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
When two people in the towncore scumread each other it usually causes an explosion in my experience. I've not seen one.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:00 ami have little trouble believing that this is town/town actuallyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
Ah ok, yeah fair enough. The word bloodbath was yours though, I searched just to make sureTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:58 pmOh I know I did, no question. I still expect it. 22 players requires extra kill power, it didn't come N1...but it stands to reason that it is coming. I expect a couple of town vigs and multiple wolf kills.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:54 pmNo that was definitely youTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pmDidn't you?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 pmHe's referenced a bloodbath tonight multiple timesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
But I thought that expectation of added KP was like the only thing we agreed on.
At what point do you just think she's keeping pressure on you because she's mafia and mafia have to create viable misyeets?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 amhonestly i am going out of my way to ignore the people who SR me because i know i'll get too annoyed/frustrated if i don't. tutuu wrote a post explaining why she SR me and i refuted it and she kept hardtunneling me. if i cant engage with someone logically then there's not much else i can do, tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
i don’t think either of them is the type to explode at someone elseMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 amWhen two people in the towncore scumread each other it usually causes an explosion in my experience. I've not seen one.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:00 ami have little trouble believing that this is town/town actuallyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
tbqh i misread the post and didn't realize nutella was one of the people involved with itMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 am SPF sees a post that has JPIC, herself and a flipped mafia and says "there's probably one mafia here". What the fuck is that? I don't like it at all.
yeah but given the personalities involved i don't think this is as applicable.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 amWhen two people in the towncore scumread each other it usually causes an explosion in my experience. I've not seen one.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:00 ami have little trouble believing that this is town/town actuallyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
i thought about it, but her push on me earlier on d1 had a ton of conviction to it. i townread tutuu less confidently than my other townlock reads but i'm not suspicious of her for pushing on meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:02 amAt what point do you just think she's keeping pressure on you because she's mafia and mafia have to create viable misyeets?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 amhonestly i am going out of my way to ignore the people who SR me because i know i'll get too annoyed/frustrated if i don't. tutuu wrote a post explaining why she SR me and i refuted it and she kept hardtunneling me. if i cant engage with someone logically then there's not much else i can do, tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
I'm a writer. I tend towards the dramatic.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 amAh ok, yeah fair enough. The word bloodbath was yours though, I searched just to make sureTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:58 pmOh I know I did, no question. I still expect it. 22 players requires extra kill power, it didn't come N1...but it stands to reason that it is coming. I expect a couple of town vigs and multiple wolf kills.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:54 pmNo that was definitely youTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pmDidn't you?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 pmHe's referenced a bloodbath tonight multiple timesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
But I thought that expectation of added KP was like the only thing we agreed on.
Tutuu put her vote on SPF and left it there. I don't see how that indicates a baseline level of trust. I'm gonna get nowhere solving their slots if you step i front of me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:03 amyeah but given the personalities involved i don't think this is as applicable.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:01 amWhen two people in the towncore scumread each other it usually causes an explosion in my experience. I've not seen one.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:00 ami have little trouble believing that this is town/town actuallyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:59 pm Tutuu and SPF you need to reconcile what the hell is going on between you. I don't like that Tutuu keeps tinfoiling SPF with it going nowhere. SPF seems like she gives zero hoots that someone in the towncore is tinfoiling her. I don't like the dynamic at all. It doesn't feel town/town because it hasn't blown up into an actual war at any point.
also it seems one way. spf trusts tutuu, and tutuu baseline level trusts spf but has random tinfoils about her. that is not like a mutual scumread that causes some massive war. occam's razoar is that spf doesn't give a fuck because she knows she's town and who cares about tutuu tinfoiling her when tutuu has not been the towncore taskmaster/wagon pusher anyway? and tutuu is not unlikely to start coming up with tinfoils when she thinks the game is too easy I've seen it a few times
Naw I didn’t, it has to be a successful NK I thinkMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:38 pm The nature of my postcap being that it hit me with 50% means that there is an outside chance that it is a role that cumulatively destroys my ability to post. I am concerned that I may have another 50% tomorrow and so on. If that is the case then I would say that it is certainly not a town role. It would be a strange 3p role and much more likely a mafia role. In fact post capping in general is a strange 3p ability. Halving the top town poster's ability to post on night 1 is also just incredibly unlikely to ever be a town move.
Nanook, when you targeted me I presume that you didn't get an extra vote? Do you get notified of whether you get an extra vote? Apologies if you've already said this I can't remember if you have or not.
Nanook from your perspective JPIC is outed mafia now yes? JPIC you believe Nanook is outed mafia too right?
Here have some wifom to occupy you while I do my thing.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:07 pm Applejacks:
DrWilgy
dyachei
Justplayingitcool
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
Bran Flakes:
Alison
Samusamu
nutella
Juliets
ColinIsCool
Long Con
Oddmerta
staypositivefriend
tedxtr
Timsup2nothin
tutuu
Master Radishes
Dyslexicon
Hally
Herm
I think everyone has posts so I can at the least take out everyone listed as Applejacks. Im gonna OMGUS Alison until i prove to myself she doesnt deserve it. Everyone else is Bran Flakes
It'll be easier to look through later if they're forced to talk about it now.Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:05 am im currently not worried about deep wolves in the lovk town tier because it will become increasingly obvious who that could be if there is one when they don’t die long after they should
this is why the halfway rule exists. for now, we treat the town core as pure as the driven snow. at the halfway point if ppl like spf and tutuu are still alive that may be worth a look
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:40 amOddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:12 amBecause I'm scumreading him pretty hardMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:11 amWhy not?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:00 amAre you sure you locktown this guy? Might be a bit early for thatMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:51 amTim is lock town because he said "claims" instead of "is". Not pandering to me when he very easily could = lock town. Tim, you have been elevated. You are now Simeon, the Incredible Talking Half Banana Half Orangutan. Your job is to try not to get night killed or misyeeted while I townshield you and drag you to endgame somehow.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:40 pm Mac claims to be a master of "first post reads." His first post is crafted specifically to meet his own first post townie standards and therefore is probably just NAI.Stinky. The guy who avoided suspicion all day one has two posts a relative content. There are some questions to other players mixed in but nothing that put's forward town solving. Oddmerta suspected Tim all day, then decided he wanted to join the majority and suspect nutella. This stinks. Now for him to suddenly be all up in my business looks even worse for him. He's taking the current situation and running with it. This looks worse than any of the other two player's ive ISOd so far.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm This is why nutella is scum, they never challemged any of the votes against them. Always going for people not on their wagon.
At 1 vote is where you start challenging but they let it get all the way up to 11 votes. As town surely you would do something about the people voting for you, 3 votes, 5 votes, 8 votes, 10 votes. It's not a runaway wagon at all, it's an unchallenged one
This is the ideal position of a wolf. Be low, be read as towny enough, and push for what looks to be an easy mislynch.
i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
how is it a maybeNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:05 amNaw I didn’t, it has to be a successful NK I thinkMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:38 pm The nature of my postcap being that it hit me with 50% means that there is an outside chance that it is a role that cumulatively destroys my ability to post. I am concerned that I may have another 50% tomorrow and so on. If that is the case then I would say that it is certainly not a town role. It would be a strange 3p role and much more likely a mafia role. In fact post capping in general is a strange 3p ability. Halving the top town poster's ability to post on night 1 is also just incredibly unlikely to ever be a town move.
Nanook, when you targeted me I presume that you didn't get an extra vote? Do you get notified of whether you get an extra vote? Apologies if you've already said this I can't remember if you have or not.
Nanook from your perspective JPIC is outed mafia now yes? JPIC you believe Nanook is outed mafia too right?
Ehhhh...idk, maybe he is. He still seemed townie to me ignoring mech but then again he claimed cop while no other investigative seems to be able to openly claim so
That would be uhHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:52 pmdid nook just tr every member of the scum teamMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmNook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
why is that anti-aligned again?
if you didn't postcap mac, and jpic is town, who did?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:05 amNaw I didn’t, it has to be a successful NK I thinkMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:38 pm The nature of my postcap being that it hit me with 50% means that there is an outside chance that it is a role that cumulatively destroys my ability to post. I am concerned that I may have another 50% tomorrow and so on. If that is the case then I would say that it is certainly not a town role. It would be a strange 3p role and much more likely a mafia role. In fact post capping in general is a strange 3p ability. Halving the top town poster's ability to post on night 1 is also just incredibly unlikely to ever be a town move.
Nanook, when you targeted me I presume that you didn't get an extra vote? Do you get notified of whether you get an extra vote? Apologies if you've already said this I can't remember if you have or not.
Nanook from your perspective JPIC is outed mafia now yes? JPIC you believe Nanook is outed mafia too right?
Ehhhh...idk, maybe he is. He still seemed townie to me ignoring mech but then again he claimed cop while no other investigative seems to be able to openly claim so
JPIC/Sprityo interactions really don't seem w/w either. This is weird.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:12 pmyep, you got a problem with it?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:10 pmYou’re voting your townread?sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:07 pm Applejacks:
DrWilgy
dyachei
Justplayingitcool
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
Bran Flakes:
Alison
Samusamu
nutella
Juliets
ColinIsCool
Long Con
Oddmerta
staypositivefriend
tedxtr
Timsup2nothin
tutuu
Master Radishes
Dyslexicon
Hally
Herm
I think everyone has posts so I can at the least take out everyone listed as Applejacks. Im gonna OMGUS Alison until i prove to myself she doesnt deserve it. Everyone else is Bran Flakes
So at this point he has four partners...he puts at least one in the green, yeah?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 amHere have some wifom to occupy you while I do my thing.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:07 pm Applejacks:
DrWilgy
dyachei
Justplayingitcool
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan
Bran Flakes:
Alison
Samusamu
nutella
Juliets
ColinIsCool
Long Con
Oddmerta
staypositivefriend
tedxtr
Timsup2nothin
tutuu
Master Radishes
Dyslexicon
Hally
Herm
I think everyone has posts so I can at the least take out everyone listed as Applejacks. Im gonna OMGUS Alison until i prove to myself she doesnt deserve it. Everyone else is Bran Flakes
idk he could have been in anti-spew then? because he was kinda outed atpstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:07 amsprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:40 amOddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:12 amBecause I'm scumreading him pretty hardMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:11 amWhy not?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:00 amAre you sure you locktown this guy? Might be a bit early for thatMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:51 amTim is lock town because he said "claims" instead of "is". Not pandering to me when he very easily could = lock town. Tim, you have been elevated. You are now Simeon, the Incredible Talking Half Banana Half Orangutan. Your job is to try not to get night killed or misyeeted while I townshield you and drag you to endgame somehow.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:40 pm Mac claims to be a master of "first post reads." His first post is crafted specifically to meet his own first post townie standards and therefore is probably just NAI.Stinky. The guy who avoided suspicion all day one has two posts a relative content. There are some questions to other players mixed in but nothing that put's forward town solving. Oddmerta suspected Tim all day, then decided he wanted to join the majority and suspect nutella. This stinks. Now for him to suddenly be all up in my business looks even worse for him. He's taking the current situation and running with it. This looks worse than any of the other two player's ive ISOd so far.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm This is why nutella is scum, they never challemged any of the votes against them. Always going for people not on their wagon.
At 1 vote is where you start challenging but they let it get all the way up to 11 votes. As town surely you would do something about the people voting for you, 3 votes, 5 votes, 8 votes, 10 votes. It's not a runaway wagon at all, it's an unchallenged one
This is the ideal position of a wolf. Be low, be read as towny enough, and push for what looks to be an easy mislynch.i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
Sprityo as scum is very prone to taking someone who is scumreading on, dramatically ISOing them and confbiasing them as a scumread. I'd take Oddmerta as lock town at this point.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:07 amsprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:40 amOddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:12 amBecause I'm scumreading him pretty hardMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:11 amWhy not?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:00 amAre you sure you locktown this guy? Might be a bit early for thatMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:51 amTim is lock town because he said "claims" instead of "is". Not pandering to me when he very easily could = lock town. Tim, you have been elevated. You are now Simeon, the Incredible Talking Half Banana Half Orangutan. Your job is to try not to get night killed or misyeeted while I townshield you and drag you to endgame somehow.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:40 pm Mac claims to be a master of "first post reads." His first post is crafted specifically to meet his own first post townie standards and therefore is probably just NAI.Stinky. The guy who avoided suspicion all day one has two posts a relative content. There are some questions to other players mixed in but nothing that put's forward town solving. Oddmerta suspected Tim all day, then decided he wanted to join the majority and suspect nutella. This stinks. Now for him to suddenly be all up in my business looks even worse for him. He's taking the current situation and running with it. This looks worse than any of the other two player's ive ISOd so far.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm This is why nutella is scum, they never challemged any of the votes against them. Always going for people not on their wagon.
At 1 vote is where you start challenging but they let it get all the way up to 11 votes. As town surely you would do something about the people voting for you, 3 votes, 5 votes, 8 votes, 10 votes. It's not a runaway wagon at all, it's an unchallenged one
This is the ideal position of a wolf. Be low, be read as towny enough, and push for what looks to be an easy mislynch.i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
I hard townread Odd so I'm biased but I will say that this was all posted after people raised suspicions on Oddmerta, and in a situation where sprit would be looking for a misexe, so that to me signals that Oddmerta was the scum team's designated misexe because a bunch of people were suspecting him.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:07 am i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
Here is an example of him doing it to Alison in this game too. I also posted a link to a game I caught him in where he did it to me.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:48 pmAaaaaand That's all I really have. Let's wrap it up outside the spoiler:Spoiler: show
Alison has been making a lot of posts about past games, mechanics kind of? and of course pushing me and really only me. I saw something about Odd and ted here and there but really nothing to support her town reads or her two scum reads. I think Alison is trying to be a deepwolf with minimal effort to be honest. As for who could be her partners I could definitely but down JPIC, Mac, Tutuu, and Hally as potential partners.
-JPIC for how she suddenly scum read them, then didnt, then tried to help them not be scumread
-Mac couldve just been sheeped but there's also the possibility of "lol watch me get sprit mislynched, i've done it before. Just follow my lead"
-Tutuu and Hally are similar to mac, could just be buddy buddy with them and not actually partners.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:09 am Sprityo as scum is very prone to taking someone who is scumreading on, dramatically ISOing them and confbiasing them as a scumread. I'd take Oddmerta as lock town at this point.
This is an awkward shielding of Nook though.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:59 pmI think thats just nanook though? At least that's how i felt about him in Upick2MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:29 pm Nanook feels like he's floundering amongst the overt towniness of the game.
I think this one might have W/W equity, or at least it doesn't spew JPIC as hard town as other instances of interactions you've pointed out.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:08 am JPIC/Sprityo interactions really don't seem w/w either. This is weird.
i've been under the impression that odd was a pretty universal townread throughout the game, even w/that post from sprit. i'll see if i can find other examples of people pushing on him or piggybacking off of sprit's suspicionAlison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:09 amI hard townread Odd so I'm biased but I will say that this was all posted after people raised suspicions on Oddmerta, and in a situation where sprit would be looking for a misexe, so that to me signals that Oddmerta was the scum team's designated misexe because a bunch of people were suspecting him.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:07 am i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
Trying to pocket me?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:07 amsprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:40 amOddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:12 amBecause I'm scumreading him pretty hardMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:11 amWhy not?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:00 amAre you sure you locktown this guy? Might be a bit early for thatMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:51 amTim is lock town because he said "claims" instead of "is". Not pandering to me when he very easily could = lock town. Tim, you have been elevated. You are now Simeon, the Incredible Talking Half Banana Half Orangutan. Your job is to try not to get night killed or misyeeted while I townshield you and drag you to endgame somehow.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:40 pm Mac claims to be a master of "first post reads." His first post is crafted specifically to meet his own first post townie standards and therefore is probably just NAI.Stinky. The guy who avoided suspicion all day one has two posts a relative content. There are some questions to other players mixed in but nothing that put's forward town solving. Oddmerta suspected Tim all day, then decided he wanted to join the majority and suspect nutella. This stinks. Now for him to suddenly be all up in my business looks even worse for him. He's taking the current situation and running with it. This looks worse than any of the other two player's ive ISOd so far.Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm This is why nutella is scum, they never challemged any of the votes against them. Always going for people not on their wagon.
At 1 vote is where you start challenging but they let it get all the way up to 11 votes. As town surely you would do something about the people voting for you, 3 votes, 5 votes, 8 votes, 10 votes. It's not a runaway wagon at all, it's an unchallenged one
This is the ideal position of a wolf. Be low, be read as towny enough, and push for what looks to be an easy mislynch.i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
Little bit of defense on Samu too.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:03 pmAlison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:46 pmCome sheep my wagon on Samu! I have actual reasons!Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:45 pm Well, heck.
I have played the mow intensity goof off game I wanted to play, but now it is three hours to the midpoint of the day, where I post my day one reads, and I got nothin' in particular and haven't taken any notes from which to come up with anything.
Low intensity goofing off turns out to just be procrastination and now I have to make up for it.
Not amused.
It's not the only interaction that feels unaligned.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:11 amI think this one might have W/W equity, or at least it doesn't spew JPIC as hard town as other instances of interactions you've pointed out.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:08 am JPIC/Sprityo interactions really don't seem w/w either. This is weird.
I distinctly remember a bunch of people scumreading him. I can name tutuu, Mac, Tim and sprityo by name. Don't remember the others but there were some, iircstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:11 ami've been under the impression that odd was a pretty universal townread throughout the game, even w/that post from sprit. i'll see if i can find other examples of people pushing on him or piggybacking off of sprit's suspicionAlison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:09 amI hard townread Odd so I'm biased but I will say that this was all posted after people raised suspicions on Oddmerta, and in a situation where sprit would be looking for a misexe, so that to me signals that Oddmerta was the scum team's designated misexe because a bunch of people were suspecting him.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:07 am i pointed out earlier that this progression from sprit is insanely awkward. my gut impression is that this points to oddmerta being town, but it's just weird that sprit draws this much attention to odd here in the most forced way possible. i'd like to hear other peoples take on this
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