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[Esooa]

it's way more reasonable for him to have dropped it as town too imo

[Esooa]

like Santy isn't even voting me and HK is also wanting to vote me for no reason other than wah wah so I could die which is part of why I've been so prickly about the bad reads on me but yeah I don't really see how you think he would have just dropped it as a wolf

whats your 2 chops today

santy mac

[Porscha]

it's way more reasonable for him to have dropped it as town too imo

what did santy drop

[Achromatic]

Well, I mean it is day 2 right. He goes 'yeah achro is probably right but let's suspect esooa anyway' and if you go over then he just kind of dies or should. But perhaps I am overestimating the exposure issue because I am looking right at it while we've got people still trying to kill HK even though I don't think a single soul has done a good job of explaining a team to me that is both a) socially viable b) votal day 1 viable and c) has come into today with the mentality that is needed if you are ok with sacrificing HK.

So maybe I am just seeing it as more glaring than it is.

[Esooa]

Well, I mean it is day 2 right. He goes 'yeah achro is probably right but let's suspect esooa anyway' and if you go over then he just kind of dies or should. But perhaps I am overestimating the exposure issue because I am looking right at it while we've got people still trying to kill HK even though I don't think a single soul has done a good job of explaining a team to me that is both a) socially viable b) votal day 1 viable and c) has come into today with the mentality that is needed if you are ok with sacrificing HK.

So maybe I am just seeing it as more glaring than it is.

and his alternative is what? Die before me?

[Esooa]

it's way more reasonable for him to have dropped it as town too imo

what did santy drop

not his read on me

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: santygrass] aubergine

[Achromatic]

Like, my problem with HK being a wolf is it suggests very certain things that you DO imo need to at least theorize correctly that could be possible before I think it is right in my own head.

Like HK wolf with OW, his biggest defender, dying means there is some sort of plan here. It by definition must exist. OW was a 40 posting person with a few scum reads and a defense of HK. It means something. In HK wolf worlds it means a big something. Everyone is trying to push that to the side at times and like, it shouldn't be?

Scum HK's team needs an exact plan and so far I've seen scum lily with HK which is... really going for it in terms of assuming plays from the wolf team and Sabi who is all but socially cleared or people who voted HK day 1 which feels unlikely given how weak of a position ender had.

My mind is open, but also my mind still needs to be changed despite it being open. My suspicion of Santy is mostly sponge at this point and so far Santy hasn't done a lot of good with his rope despite the leeway he has ben given. Neither has Mac.

Town can have bad games and I am giving them every effort to make it up but their core, fundamental solving conclusions don't make any sense to me.

[Achromatic]

Well, I mean it is day 2 right. He goes 'yeah achro is probably right but let's suspect esooa anyway' and if you go over then he just kind of dies or should. But perhaps I am overestimating the exposure issue because I am looking right at it while we've got people still trying to kill HK even though I don't think a single soul has done a good job of explaining a team to me that is both a) socially viable b) votal day 1 viable and c) has come into today with the mentality that is needed if you are ok with sacrificing HK.

So maybe I am just seeing it as more glaring than it is.

and his alternative is what? Die before me?

Change his read on you for the day, survive, night kill me, go back to pushing you without me going 'uh what' lol

[MacDougall]

I did heaps good with my rope according to everyone but you tbh. Everyone said I was towny. Then you showed up again and ruined my vibes.

[MacDougall]

But that's ok we can't always be right.

[Esooa]

Well, I mean it is day 2 right. He goes 'yeah achro is probably right but let's suspect esooa anyway' and if you go over then he just kind of dies or should. But perhaps I am overestimating the exposure issue because I am looking right at it while we've got people still trying to kill HK even though I don't think a single soul has done a good job of explaining a team to me that is both a) socially viable b) votal day 1 viable and c) has come into today with the mentality that is needed if you are ok with sacrificing HK.

So maybe I am just seeing it as more glaring than it is.

and his alternative is what? Die before me?

Change his read on you for the day, survive, night kill me, go back to pushing you without me going 'uh what' lol

if his wolf partner is Mac I feel like the plan is literally that except he survives by killing me lol

[Achromatic]

I mean, I thought you looked townier too actually but I still can't at all follow your HK is wolf world and feel the need to hold you accountable for your solving.

[Esooa]

idk that's just what's making sense to me rn

[Esooa]

I mean even if it's not Mac I can see why he chooses me I'm just a stupid idiot but Mac is Mac lmao

[Achromatic]

Well, I mean it is day 2 right. He goes 'yeah achro is probably right but let's suspect esooa anyway' and if you go over then he just kind of dies or should. But perhaps I am overestimating the exposure issue because I am looking right at it while we've got people still trying to kill HK even though I don't think a single soul has done a good job of explaining a team to me that is both a) socially viable b) votal day 1 viable and c) has come into today with the mentality that is needed if you are ok with sacrificing HK.

So maybe I am just seeing it as more glaring than it is.

and his alternative is what? Die before me?

Change his read on you for the day, survive, night kill me, go back to pushing you without me going 'uh what' lol

if his wolf partner is Mac I feel like the plan is literally that except he survives by killing me lol

Possibly yes. I am considering worlds and in worlds where skilled players best defense is 'twtbaw' it makes me worry.

Santy being scum explains the NK easily enough as well, OW was suspecting him.

Got lily's iso open in another tab.

[Esooa]

not actually meant to be that disparaging by calling myself stupid idiot I'm fine just do it sometimes

[MacDougall]

look at me voting santy I'm a big voter

[Esooa]

Well, I mean it is day 2 right. He goes 'yeah achro is probably right but let's suspect esooa anyway' and if you go over then he just kind of dies or should. But perhaps I am overestimating the exposure issue because I am looking right at it while we've got people still trying to kill HK even though I don't think a single soul has done a good job of explaining a team to me that is both a) socially viable b) votal day 1 viable and c) has come into today with the mentality that is needed if you are ok with sacrificing HK.

So maybe I am just seeing it as more glaring than it is.

and his alternative is what? Die before me?

Change his read on you for the day, survive, night kill me, go back to pushing you without me going 'uh what' lol

if his wolf partner is Mac I feel like the plan is literally that except he survives by killing me lol

Possibly yes. I am considering worlds and in worlds where skilled players best defense is 'twtbaw' it makes me worry.

Santy being scum explains the NK easily enough as well, OW was suspecting him.

Got lily's iso open in another tab.

if you see anything and want to ask me about it I'd be interesting. Not personally going to look at ISO's right now but Lily is someone who I wanna read more of too so yeah

[MacDougall]

vote vote vote

[MacDougall]

this is just racism against australia

[Achromatic]

Mac are you just shitposting or are you emotionally and mentally available to discuss a scum read you've had a bit.

[MacDougall]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

[MacDougall]

Mac are you just shitposting or are you emotionally and mentally available to discuss a scum read you've had a bit.

those things don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive but I appreciate your care

[Esooa]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

[MacDougall]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

this is me

extending you

an olive branch

you scumread him

you scumread me

help me bus

[Esooa]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

this is me

extending you

an olive branch

you scumread him

you scumread me

help me bus

just not really sure why you've decided to do this

[MacDougall]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

this is me

extending you

an olive branch

you scumread him

you scumread me

help me bus

just not really sure why you've decided to do this

there are legit so many reasons

[Achromatic]

Mac are you just shitposting or are you emotionally and mentally available to discuss a scum read you've had a bit.

those things don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive but I appreciate your care

I just had a game where I was super tilted over how someone treated me so I get it.

(That person apologized to me post game and all is good now)

Anyway so far the best I can get from people suspecting Esooa are "Esooa is a very good wolf" and "Esooa treats me a certain way" and "Esooa's eod felt like they didnt care at eod"(this was proven false by me)

Outside of these things I am not sure I've seen anything actually substantial as to why Esooa is suspect. I liked their involvement with me day 1, and generally I have found most of their posts to be good. You just proposed a truce I saw so if you don't want to answer that's fine, but what has Esooa actually done?

[MacDougall]

tried too hard

[Esooa]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

this is me

extending you

an olive branch

you scumread him

you scumread me

help me bus

just not really sure why you've decided to do this

there are legit so many reasons

like?

[MacDougall]

compare postcount here vs. kids birthday party

[MacDougall]

esooa is a polarised noob

[Achromatic]

santy's performance is better than mac's if we are talking abt that

Yea but he's back to pushing a misread on Esooa eod so idk.

well i guess we clash here because i dont particularly find esooa towny or their eod towny so i vibe with their read more

wait why? her eod was super towny or at least convincing af and she has hit a ton of her town notes

Talk to me about them?

u read it all recently i believe but shes just been playing a pretty consistent game poking at people and trying to find scum

i suppose it's just how you think esooa is scum like do you think she's just playing an amazing scum game or do you think she's like actually done something scummy? as i see it if she's scum she's emulating her recent town games perfectly and playing a super tight game where she finds a weak HK post to start picking apart and then tunnels at him for the rest of the day and makes eod extra convincing cuz it was obvious ender was gonna flip over HK

@Porscha this feels like the post your epic esooa/lily/santy team goes to die tbh

[Esooa]

compare postcount here vs. kids birthday party

I know you're not wolf reading me atm or whatever but you do recognize I have put a lot of effort into other games like cats vs dogs as town and very minimal effort in games as wolf right

[MacDougall]

@Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

this is me

extending you

an olive branch

you scumread him

you scumread me

help me bus

just not really sure why you've decided to do this

there are legit so many reasons

like?

the only thing I know for sure

is

I'm town

so

suddenly doing this

helps me survive

helps me read santy voters

helps me read santy

helps everyone else read santy

entertains me

helps me read mac suspectors

helps you read me

[MacDougall]

compare postcount here vs. kids birthday party

I know you're not wolf reading me atm or whatever but you do recognize I have put a lot of effort into other games like cats vs dogs as town and very minimal effort in games as wolf right

only as good as your last fuck

[Esooa]

I dunno

[Esooa]

compare postcount here vs. kids birthday party

I know you're not wolf reading me atm or whatever but you do recognize I have put a lot of effort into other games like cats vs dogs as town and very minimal effort in games as wolf right

only as good as your last fuck

it was pretty good

[Esooa]

I guess I could see Santy sticking to his read on me because it's backed decently by Mac who presumably can get a bit done with it

Don't really think Mac would be doing the same for those reasons just cause well Santy hasn't been listened to as much/well isn't Mac lol. But Mac just likes causing chaos as a wolf I think

I also don't rly know who's the 3 that much rn

[Achromatic]

Lily has a lot of posts where I don't think she is partnered with certain people. Esooa, Mac, HK.

Lily has a lot of posts I just think are town posts, to be clear.

[MacDougall]

I guess I could see Santy sticking to his read on me because it's backed decently by Mac who presumably can get a bit done with it

Don't really think Mac would be doing the same for those reasons just cause well Santy hasn't been listened to as much/well isn't Mac lol. But Mac just likes causing chaos as a wolf I think

I also don't rly know who's the 3 that much rn

pushing you is not chaotic

[Achromatic]

Mac does it give you any pause you are voting with four players who you have been at various points worried about today in some fashion

[MacDougall]

Mac does it give you any pause you are voting with four players who you have been at various points worried about today in some fashion

it's like you think I'm voting santy because I suspect him

[Achromatic]

Mac does it give you any pause you are voting with four players who you have been at various points worried about today in some fashion

it's like you think I'm voting santy because I suspect him

Hm.

Well in that case if that's the type of day we're having I think I am just going to stop what I was doing, log out, and see everyone day 3.

No need for me to participate any further tbh.

I am fine with either mac or santy going over. glgl

[MacDougall]

Mac does it give you any pause you are voting with four players who you have been at various points worried about today in some fashion

it's like you think I'm voting santy because I suspect him

Hm.

Well in that case if that's the type of day we're having I think I am just going to stop what I was doing, log out, and see everyone day 3.

No need for me to participate any further tbh.

I am fine with either mac or santy going over. glgl

I'm voting him because I felt like the gamestate needed a shock to the system. I'm not just throwing or whatever you're implying.

[Esooa]

wait

[Esooa]

@Achromatic what was towny from lily's ISO you saw

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Fuck cops.

I did call my building security to check in on them.

I mean ACAB, I was being facetious anyways.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac actually town...or I'm dumb. Both are possible.