DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Ayyyy TH is mafia lets just roll the dice on it. If I'm wrong we lose anyway lol.
If he is mafia then
A) He and Golden have been acting all game
B) He and Epi risked a ~30% chance of killing a teammate just for the lulz
C) I'm bad
I know I'm not bad.
I'm sorry but the only logical way I see this day ending is the lynch being between me and Epi.
You realise that grenade had lots of abilities right? I don’t remember exactly what it was but it was till a dice. I think maybe every number had a different effect. The only other one I remember is destroying items because it made me use my affiliation check immediately. I guess they were still probably all negative. But not a 30% chance of death.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Ayyyy TH is mafia lets just roll the dice on it. If I'm wrong we lose anyway lol.
If he is mafia then
A) He and Golden have been acting all game
B) He and Epi risked a ~30% chance of killing a teammate just for the lulz
C) I'm bad
I know I'm not bad.
I'm sorry but the only logical way I see this day ending is the lynch being between me and Epi.
You realise that grenade had lots of abilities right? I don’t remember exactly what it was but it was till a dice. I think maybe every number had a different effect. The only other one I remember is destroying items because it made me use my affiliation check immediately. I guess they were still probably all negative. But not a 30% chance of death.
I recall it was 1/6 chance of kill. That means the chance of the grenade not killing either Epi or TH is (5/6)^2 = 25/36. Which means chance of hitting at least one is 11/36 = 30.6%.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Ayyyy TH is mafia lets just roll the dice on it. If I'm wrong we lose anyway lol.
If he is mafia then
A) He and Golden have been acting all game
B) He and Epi risked a ~30% chance of killing a teammate just for the lulz
C) I'm bad
I know I'm not bad.
I'm sorry but the only logical way I see this day ending is the lynch being between me and Epi.
You realise that grenade had lots of abilities right? I don’t remember exactly what it was but it was till a dice. I think maybe every number had a different effect. The only other one I remember is destroying items because it made me use my affiliation check immediately. I guess they were still probably all negative. But not a 30% chance of death.
I recall it was 1/6 chance of kill. That means the chance of the grenade not killing either Epi or TH is (5/6)^2 = 25/36. Which means chance of hitting at least one is 11/36 = 30.6%.
Sorry, lawyer. I know math.
That doesn’t seem right. How many people were on the crew?
It should be 1/6 * 2/x - so like, if there were five people, 2/30.
I don’t think you know math lol
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:27 pm
by Epignosis
If you believe I am mafia, there are certain things you also have to believe. Here you go:
You believe that, in the immediate wake of the Sokoth lynch, I awarded my teammate DF credit with the Sokoth lynch...and then promptly took it away when I studied the timing of his posts and pointed out something nobody else was going to spot in two hundred years.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:06 am
I’m inclined to vote DDL, but am I wrong to to think Sokoth doth protest too much in that initial big post?
That was my initial thought too. Sokoth's response felt weirdly disproportionate to Nova's post, with shades of NO U too. Also him making a point of Nova already putting a vote on him today when votes are changeable reads like he's trying to make Nova look shadier than warranted.
I do agree with DH that DDL was pretty wishy-washy early on, which I hate to admit since our crew is already lagging behind the rest.
I'm not really clear on what the case on Wilgy even is.
It was his first mention of Sokoth, and he was quoting Colin.
Colin's post was dated Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:06 am (EST).
++++
That means there were four hours and thirty-eight minutes between Colin's post and DFaraday's post, which quoted it.
DFaraday's Wednesday post was #484.
DFaraday's Saturday post was #1090.
That means there were three days and 606 posts between DFaraday's Wednesday post and his Saturday post.
And you're telling me that out of 606 posts, the one DFaraday quotes is the one that mentions Sokoth, a player I don't think he's ever played with before? A post that was made over four hours before he made his?
Y'all check my math and shit.
Meanwhile, DFaraday is getting my vote.
You believe that I ushered everybody onto my teammate Enrique when I was the only vote on him and everybody else was having a Golden Turnip Head party:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:56 am
I don't worry about Glorfindel. It he's good, people can consider what he says. And mafia will have no choice but to kill him early.
Yeah I've been thinking about this meta and I don't really get it lol. Is this how it usually goes? He must make a really terrible bad guy, right?
In my head, this sounds like, "Really? People actually buy this shit? Meaning we have to kill Glorfindel instead of lynch him? What the hell?"
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:02 pm
glorfindel and epignosis are good imo
I have no idea why I'm lumped in there with Glorfindel, and no explanation is offered. He said, " Glorfindel and Epignosis are my main town reads. Glorf calling SQ's post reasoned etc. was hilarious and weird but I believe his meta stuff." That came later, but again, there's no explanation as to why I'm there.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:37 pm
The only reason I'd lynch Golden today is pure schadenfreude, and that's not enough to move me there.
I equally think lynching Turnip Head is a bad choice.
DDL has attained a level of, "Well, that sounds about right for a civilian DDL" that I'm unwilling to move there today.
I retain some suspicion of nutella and speedchuck, but not enough to try to move the masses there.
sig is now juliets, so that's a hard pass for today.
MacDougall's "efforts" don't really pass the smell test, but he falls into the same camp as nutella and speedchuck.
Glorfindel.
This might be the shittiest poll I've seen.
At least Enrique is on it.
You believe that I bought the lie detector, used it to "clear" DharmaHelper, and then killed juliets.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Ayyyy TH is mafia lets just roll the dice on it. If I'm wrong we lose anyway lol.
If he is mafia then
A) He and Golden have been acting all game
B) He and Epi risked a ~30% chance of killing a teammate just for the lulz
C) I'm bad
I know I'm not bad.
I'm sorry but the only logical way I see this day ending is the lynch being between me and Epi.
You realise that grenade had lots of abilities right? I don’t remember exactly what it was but it was till a dice. I think maybe every number had a different effect. The only other one I remember is destroying items because it made me use my affiliation check immediately. I guess they were still probably all negative. But not a 30% chance of death.
I recall it was 1/6 chance of kill. That means the chance of the grenade not killing either Epi or TH is (5/6)^2 = 25/36. Which means chance of hitting at least one is 11/36 = 30.6%.
Sorry, lawyer. I know math.
That doesn’t seem right. How many people were on the crew?
It should be 1/6 * 2/x - so like, if there were five people, 2/30.
I don’t think you know math lol
Ok I dont remember clearly but doesn't it get rolled separately for each crewmember?
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Ayyyy TH is mafia lets just roll the dice on it. If I'm wrong we lose anyway lol.
If he is mafia then
A) He and Golden have been acting all game
B) He and Epi risked a ~30% chance of killing a teammate just for the lulz
C) I'm bad
I know I'm not bad.
I'm sorry but the only logical way I see this day ending is the lynch being between me and Epi.
You realise that grenade had lots of abilities right? I don’t remember exactly what it was but it was till a dice. I think maybe every number had a different effect. The only other one I remember is destroying items because it made me use my affiliation check immediately. I guess they were still probably all negative. But not a 30% chance of death.
I recall it was 1/6 chance of kill. That means the chance of the grenade not killing either Epi or TH is (5/6)^2 = 25/36. Which means chance of hitting at least one is 11/36 = 30.6%.
Sorry, lawyer. I know math.
That doesn’t seem right. How many people were on the crew?
It should be 1/6 * 2/x - so like, if there were five people, 2/30.
I don’t think you know math lol
Ok I dont remember clearly but doesn't it get rolled separately for each crewmember?
Oh bugger maybe. I didn’t read it quite that closely.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:31 pm
by Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:20 pm
I feel like I'm herding cats.
At least you're not fucking Glorf.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:31 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:27 pm
If you believe I am mafia, there are certain things you also have to believe. Here you go:
You believe that, in the immediate wake of the Sokoth lynch, I awarded my teammate DF credit with the Sokoth lynch...and then promptly took it away when I studied the timing of his posts and pointed out something nobody else was going to spot in two hundred years.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:06 am
I’m inclined to vote DDL, but am I wrong to to think Sokoth doth protest too much in that initial big post?
That was my initial thought too. Sokoth's response felt weirdly disproportionate to Nova's post, with shades of NO U too. Also him making a point of Nova already putting a vote on him today when votes are changeable reads like he's trying to make Nova look shadier than warranted.
I do agree with DH that DDL was pretty wishy-washy early on, which I hate to admit since our crew is already lagging behind the rest.
I'm not really clear on what the case on Wilgy even is.
It was his first mention of Sokoth, and he was quoting Colin.
Colin's post was dated Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:06 am (EST).
++++
That means there were four hours and thirty-eight minutes between Colin's post and DFaraday's post, which quoted it.
DFaraday's Wednesday post was #484.
DFaraday's Saturday post was #1090.
That means there were three days and 606 posts between DFaraday's Wednesday post and his Saturday post.
And you're telling me that out of 606 posts, the one DFaraday quotes is the one that mentions Sokoth, a player I don't think he's ever played with before? A post that was made over four hours before he made his?
Y'all check my math and shit.
Meanwhile, DFaraday is getting my vote.
You believe that I ushered everybody onto my teammate Enrique when I was the only vote on him and everybody else was having a Golden Turnip Head party:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:56 am
I don't worry about Glorfindel. It he's good, people can consider what he says. And mafia will have no choice but to kill him early.
Yeah I've been thinking about this meta and I don't really get it lol. Is this how it usually goes? He must make a really terrible bad guy, right?
In my head, this sounds like, "Really? People actually buy this shit? Meaning we have to kill Glorfindel instead of lynch him? What the hell?"
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:02 pm
glorfindel and epignosis are good imo
I have no idea why I'm lumped in there with Glorfindel, and no explanation is offered. He said, " Glorfindel and Epignosis are my main town reads. Glorf calling SQ's post reasoned etc. was hilarious and weird but I believe his meta stuff." That came later, but again, there's no explanation as to why I'm there.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:37 pm
The only reason I'd lynch Golden today is pure schadenfreude, and that's not enough to move me there.
I equally think lynching Turnip Head is a bad choice.
DDL has attained a level of, "Well, that sounds about right for a civilian DDL" that I'm unwilling to move there today.
I retain some suspicion of nutella and speedchuck, but not enough to try to move the masses there.
sig is now juliets, so that's a hard pass for today.
MacDougall's "efforts" don't really pass the smell test, but he falls into the same camp as nutella and speedchuck.
Glorfindel.
This might be the shittiest poll I've seen.
At least Enrique is on it.
You believe that I bought the lie detector, used it to "clear" DharmaHelper, and then killed juliets.
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Ayyyy TH is mafia lets just roll the dice on it. If I'm wrong we lose anyway lol.
If he is mafia then
A) He and Golden have been acting all game
B) He and Epi risked a ~30% chance of killing a teammate just for the lulz
C) I'm bad
I know I'm not bad.
I'm sorry but the only logical way I see this day ending is the lynch being between me and Epi.
You realise that grenade had lots of abilities right? I don’t remember exactly what it was but it was till a dice. I think maybe every number had a different effect. The only other one I remember is destroying items because it made me use my affiliation check immediately. I guess they were still probably all negative. But not a 30% chance of death.
I recall it was 1/6 chance of kill. That means the chance of the grenade not killing either Epi or TH is (5/6)^2 = 25/36. Which means chance of hitting at least one is 11/36 = 30.6%.
Sorry, lawyer. I know math.
That doesn’t seem right. How many people were on the crew?
It should be 1/6 * 2/x - so like, if there were five people, 2/30.
I don’t think you know math lol
Ok I dont remember clearly but doesn't it get rolled separately for each crewmember?
Oh bugger maybe. I didn’t read it quite that closely.
I dont know tbh.
I'm almost checking wayback machine. Is that even legal
(Inb4 nutella lol u broke the rulez again)
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:38 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:30 pm
Epi did you direct TH to lie detect DDL
I didn't direct anybody to do anything. I saved up all my money, bought something I wanted when it became available, and used it on you. I had a very small window of time, and I knew you had said, "I'm good," so that was my default option. I asked the crew for help. juliets searched Golden's posts, but reported that she didn't find anything that could be checked. I wanted immediate results, so I submitted my default option. Then juliets said goodbye like she knew she was getting ready to kick it. That's how that went down.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:43 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
I'm sorry Epi, your points are great really, but unless you or somebody can covince me Golden/Turnip are w/w, my vote stays on you.
Or some random BS like daisy/mac are trolling us.
Or INH is a liar.
You know what Sherlock Holmes says. When the impossible is eliminated, only the improbable remains.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:27 pm
If you believe I am mafia, there are certain things you also have to believe. Here you go:
You believe that, in the immediate wake of the Sokoth lynch, I awarded my teammate DF credit with the Sokoth lynch...and then promptly took it away when I studied the timing of his posts and pointed out something nobody else was going to spot in two hundred years.
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:06 am
I’m inclined to vote DDL, but am I wrong to to think Sokoth doth protest too much in that initial big post?
That was my initial thought too. Sokoth's response felt weirdly disproportionate to Nova's post, with shades of NO U too. Also him making a point of Nova already putting a vote on him today when votes are changeable reads like he's trying to make Nova look shadier than warranted.
I do agree with DH that DDL was pretty wishy-washy early on, which I hate to admit since our crew is already lagging behind the rest.
I'm not really clear on what the case on Wilgy even is.
It was his first mention of Sokoth, and he was quoting Colin.
Colin's post was dated Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:06 am (EST).
++++
That means there were four hours and thirty-eight minutes between Colin's post and DFaraday's post, which quoted it.
DFaraday's Wednesday post was #484.
DFaraday's Saturday post was #1090.
That means there were three days and 606 posts between DFaraday's Wednesday post and his Saturday post.
And you're telling me that out of 606 posts, the one DFaraday quotes is the one that mentions Sokoth, a player I don't think he's ever played with before? A post that was made over four hours before he made his?
Y'all check my math and shit.
Meanwhile, DFaraday is getting my vote.
You believe that I ushered everybody onto my teammate Enrique when I was the only vote on him and everybody else was having a Golden Turnip Head party:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:56 am
I don't worry about Glorfindel. It he's good, people can consider what he says. And mafia will have no choice but to kill him early.
Yeah I've been thinking about this meta and I don't really get it lol. Is this how it usually goes? He must make a really terrible bad guy, right?
In my head, this sounds like, "Really? People actually buy this shit? Meaning we have to kill Glorfindel instead of lynch him? What the hell?"
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:02 pm
glorfindel and epignosis are good imo
I have no idea why I'm lumped in there with Glorfindel, and no explanation is offered. He said, " Glorfindel and Epignosis are my main town reads. Glorf calling SQ's post reasoned etc. was hilarious and weird but I believe his meta stuff." That came later, but again, there's no explanation as to why I'm there.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:37 pm
The only reason I'd lynch Golden today is pure schadenfreude, and that's not enough to move me there.
I equally think lynching Turnip Head is a bad choice.
DDL has attained a level of, "Well, that sounds about right for a civilian DDL" that I'm unwilling to move there today.
I retain some suspicion of nutella and speedchuck, but not enough to try to move the masses there.
sig is now juliets, so that's a hard pass for today.
MacDougall's "efforts" don't really pass the smell test, but he falls into the same camp as nutella and speedchuck.
Glorfindel.
This might be the shittiest poll I've seen.
At least Enrique is on it.
You believe that I bought the lie detector, used it to "clear" DharmaHelper, and then killed juliets.
What are you looking in here for? You know it's the truth.
If you believe I am bad, then you must believe all of the above statements are also true.
Do you believe Golden/TH can be wolf/wolf?
Can be?
Of course.
I'm not interested in working out which living person is bad with which living person. I'm interested in finding one bad living person and taking away the "living" part, and then sorting the next step out after that.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:45 pm
by Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:43 pm
I'm sorry Epi, your points are great really, but unless you or somebody can covince me Golden/Turnip are w/w, my vote stays on you.
Or some random BS like daisy/mac are trolling us.
Or INH is a liar.
You know what Sherlock Holmes says. When the impossible is eliminated, only the improbable remains.
Then you're either throwing the game or you are bad.
I don't want you to tell me my points are great (really!). I want you to tell me with a straight face that you believe all four of those things I listed actually occurred.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:43 pm
I'm sorry Epi, your points are great really, but unless you or somebody can covince me Golden/Turnip are w/w, my vote stays on you.
Or some random BS like daisy/mac are trolling us.
Or INH is a liar.
You know what Sherlock Holmes says. When the impossible is eliminated, only the improbable remains.
Then you're either throwing the game or you are bad.
I don't want you to tell me my points are great (really!). I want you to tell me with a straight face that you believe all four of those things I listed actually occurred.
If they didn't occur, then something even less likely ocurred.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:46 pm
by Epignosis
Before I go into this further, I want each person to answer this:
Do you have any reason whatsoever to believe that INH is a liar?
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:50 pm
by DharmaHelper
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:46 pm
Before I go into this further, I want each person to answer this:
Do you have any reason whatsoever to believe that INH is a liar?
No...not really.
Either 1 of the 2 people that Niska killed are the 3P and INH for some reason decided to roll the dice on that or INH is the 3P.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:51 pm
by DharmaHelper
Oh wait nvm I was confused. Niska kills are revealed, mafia kills aren't.
IDK I still don't think INH is lying.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:51 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Pretty sure the niska kills were revealed as civ.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:52 pm
by Golden
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:46 pm
Before I go into this further, I want each person to answer this:
Do you have any reason whatsoever to believe that INH is a liar?
None, and reasons to believe he isn’t. His actions in the ship thread were consistent with his claim
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:55 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
ITT: This is like guess who all over again, only this time I'm not the one hanging out with Epi/Golden as they plan everyone's downfall, I'm the one taking the blame.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:16 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sure this means you admit there is merit in analysing teammate pairs.
Re: Firefly, The Game [Day 8]
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:29 pm
by Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique
But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique
But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique
But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique
But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique
But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.
Yes...I think you're catching on.
Did you change the way you play? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen you call living teammates in thread in past games.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 pm
Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.
A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique
But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.
Yes...I think you're catching on.
Did you change the way you play? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen you call living teammates in thread in past games.
I must have. Apparently I throw half my team under the bus now.
