Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Jackofhearts2005]

“Saying Speed is probably bad and voting for Nova instead does not count.”

Nova is looking better and better and every time you choose to attack the messenger (Jack is 3P, You’re beating a dead horse, Is that a scumslip from Jack, You know that isn’t true) instead of actually addressing why I’m saying you’re bad, the worse you look.

Defend yourself of get lynched.

[Turnip Head]

I’d go back to being silly again but I’ve been on a long townie cold streak and I just broke it with Speedchuck. I’m greedy. I want another baddie dead by my efforts.

[Scotty]

“Saying Speed is probably bad and voting for Nova instead does not count.”

Nova is looking better and better and every time you choose to attack the messenger (Jack is 3P, You’re beating a dead horse, Is that a scumslip from Jack, You know that isn’t true) instead of actually addressing why I’m saying you’re bad, the worse you look.

Defend yourself of get lynched.

I have been addressing your complaint. And I’ve told you what i got. If you’re not satisfied, I can’t tell you what I don’t got.

But that’s fine, you do you. If I get lynched tomorrow, ima be sure to get in some more legacy cases

[Kylemii]

I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

[Scotty]

I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

I’m ready to move on. I think jack is fighting for town side currently.

[Scotty]

Town reads:
Speedchuck
Choutas
Dom
Kylemii
Kites
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
M Plus 7

Remainders:
ColinIsCool
dunya - Dunya's questioning is all over the place, but I remember it being that way in MK and in Vocaroo. She actually ended up getting lynched for it in MK, even though she pointed out the scumteam. I can't clear Dunya on a meta read, though, because I've never played with scum dunya.
Epignosis
Golden - Has done some really towny things. I didn't even mind his meta defense, but for a couple of posts that pinged me. Those that Mac didn't point out, I already did.
Jackofhearts2005
lapluie
Long Con
Lunalee
MacDougall - Wanna see how he approaches non-golden players before assigning a townread
Marmot
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
wolbre04

Feel free to call me on any of these reads. Busy day, can't do them all, so this list is for you to pick and choose.
I'll narrow down and pick out scumreads from my remainders by tomorrow.

He included Colin in his “remainder” section, without comment. I’d expect him to include at least 1, maybe 2 others in this section with Colin.

What’s odd to me is that he put Kites (now Quin) in the town read section even though Kites’ only contribution at that point was basically “hey I need to be replaced”

And yet lapluie (now Xbox), who posted just as much, was in the remainder.

Gut tells me one of them is bad

[Scotty]

@MacDougall Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

What do you want?

If he's still doing a thing, I want to help.

If not, and I wanted to consolidate, I'd vote Sloonei. I suspect Sloon more than Colin. (though I do suspect Colin, or I wouldn't be asking)

But what I really want to do is start some entirely new votes since we're only a fourth of the way through the day. I'd probably start with @Quin. My Quindar has not given me the genu-Quin townread yet, and I usually get that as soon as he starts posting.

This post on D2 makes both Sloonei and, coincidentally, Quin look good.

He shifts focus from Colin (yeah, I do kinds suspect Colin, but here’s where we should be looking::) to both other players.

So far I like Sloonei, TH, and probably Quin as not speedchuck’s partners.

[Scotty]

Thanks, care to answer my other question now?

I completely missed your other question.

Have a rainbow of my mindset.

speedchuck
MacDougall
Golden
dunya
novaselinenever
Long Con
Scotty
Kylemii
Lunalee
wolbre04
Sloonei
Dom
Marmot
M Plus 7
Choutas
Kites / Quin
lapluie / colonialbob
Spacedaisy
Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool

It's mutidimensional, too. I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement. This is based on a skim, and I feel like a third of the game isn't taking things seriously. Which is fun and all, but I can't do it, nor can I read it.

Looking at this insightful D2 rainbow again.

Note that lap/cbob is now in the orange, even though he hasn’t talked about cbob yet. And Quin(kites) is also in orange- he did talk about Quin and the “Quindar”. Again, I think this is a good look for Quin.

Note also that he bolded certain people. Seems kinda arbitrary. Dunno what that means.

He also lists nova as a strong town read with the likes of Mac. Why?

[Turnip Head]

Thanks, care to answer my other question now?

I completely missed your other question.

Have a rainbow of my mindset.

speedchuck
MacDougall
Golden
dunya
novaselinenever
Long Con
Scotty
Kylemii
Lunalee
wolbre04
Sloonei
Dom
Marmot
M Plus 7
Choutas
Kites / Quin
lapluie / colonialbob
Spacedaisy
Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool

It's mutidimensional, too. I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement. This is based on a skim, and I feel like a third of the game isn't taking things seriously. Which is fun and all, but I can't do it, nor can I read it.

Looking at this insightful D2 rainbow again.

Note that lap/cbob is now in the orange, even though he hasn’t talked about cbob yet. And Quin(kites) is also in orange- he did talk about Quin and the “Quindar”. Again, I think this is a good look for Quin.

Note also that he bolded certain people. Seems kinda arbitrary. Dunno what that means.

He also lists nova as a strong town read with the likes of Mac. Why?

Marmot kinda stands out as the only yellow skittle

[dunya]

Thanks, care to answer my other question now?

I completely missed your other question.

Have a rainbow of my mindset.

speedchuck
MacDougall
Golden
dunya
novaselinenever
Long Con
Scotty
Kylemii
Lunalee
wolbre04
Sloonei
Dom
Marmot
M Plus 7
Choutas
Kites / Quin
lapluie / colonialbob
Spacedaisy
Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool

It's mutidimensional, too. I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement. This is based on a skim, and I feel like a third of the game isn't taking things seriously. Which is fun and all, but I can't do it, nor can I read it.

Note also that he bolded certain people. Seems kinda arbitrary. Dunno what that means.

"I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement."

[Scotty]

I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

And this is the post that I called him out on from D1. Self-limiting himself to 7 scum reads fir GTH.

I’ve brought this up before but I’ll reiterate that he lists nova as his biggest surprise- he says he “considered” changing his vote to nova, but held firm on Epi. His big defense is that he doesn’t “have a reason to vote nova”. Big vote of confidence there. His Pom Pom might as well be made of cactus spines.

So if he was considering about voting nova, what changed from this read list to the rainbow list on D2 where nova was on supatown level?

[dunya]

Why is kites/quin a more confident read than lapluie/cbob? speedchuck

I have a quindar. I don't have a cbobbar.

when questioned about why he was scum reading quin and not cbob, his reply.

uninspiring reason. Quin does look better. but y'know, wifom and all dat.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

Well it’s Speed and Scotty bringing it up.

Have a glass and ask if Scotty would do that after his partner gets lynched doing it.

Scotty doesn’t seem to be aware of either my case or Daisy’s case, though, so he’d likely not be aware of that. Speed had a strong suspicion of me being 3P. He’d been feeling that way for sometime if you look at our exchanges. He’d have talked about it on BTSC. Scotty would share the same opinion if he’s bad going into yesterday. He’s still holding it.

He didn’t read my case against Speed yesterday (as evidenced by him prodding me today and standing by his assertion that there’s no way to read me) because he had already decided that I was 3P and would make a good lynch. He was quick to dismiss the case as something he’d “pressured” out of me.

A townie would both be happy about my newfound contributions and would evaluate the case on Speed. After all, that was his stated reason for going after me and he’d been mildly suspicious of Speedchuck all game. A juicy case from Jack against Speed should have given Scotty a chance to come to a decision about both of us.

Scotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

[Scotty]

Why is kites/quin a more confident read than lapluie/cbob? speedchuck

I have a quindar. I don't have a cbobbar.

when questioned about why he was scum reading quin and not cbob, his reply.

uninspiring reason. Quin does look better. but y'know, wifom and all dat.

I am still placing Quin in the indie camp. I don’t think he looks like a teammate of Speedchuck. What that means for his alignment, that’s another question to tackle once we lynch all baddies I guess

[Turnip Head]

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

And this is the post that I called him out on from D1. Self-limiting himself to 7 scum reads fir GTH.

I’ve brought this up before but I’ll reiterate that he lists nova as his biggest surprise- he says he “considered” changing his vote to nova, but held firm on Epi. His big defense is that he doesn’t “have a reason to vote nova”. Big vote of confidence there. His Pom Pom might as well be made of cactus spines.

So if he was considering about voting nova, what changed from this read list to the rainbow list on D2 where nova was on supatown level?

I think the rest of us were kinda talking about nova at that point and speed's saying like "I don't see it". So I could read that either way... doesn't point to anything conclusive for me re: Nova.

[Turnip Head]

Scotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

I like where your heart's at but I wanna make sure your brain catches up Don't h8 on scotty too much imo I like his gumption

[Scotty]

I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

Well it’s Speed and Scotty bringing it up.

Have a glass and ask if Scotty would do that after his partner gets lynched doing it.

Scotty doesn’t seem to be aware of either my case or Daisy’s case, though, so he’d likely not be aware of that. Speed had a strong suspicion of me being 3P. He’d been feeling that way for sometime if you look at our exchanges. He’d have talked about it on BTSC. Scotty would share the same opinion if he’s bad going into yesterday. He’s still holding it.

He didn’t read my case against Speed yesterday (as evidenced by him prodding me today and standing by his assertion that there’s no way to read me) because he had already decided that I was 3P and would make a good lynch. He was quick to dismiss the case as something he’d “pressured” out of me.

A townie would both be happy about my newfound contributions and would evaluate the case on Speed. After all, that was his stated reason for going after me and he’d been mildly suspicious of Speedchuck all game. A juicy case from Jack against Speed should have given Scotty a chance to come to a decision about both of us.

Scotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

I would add that it not the hardest thing to imagine that baddies would be looking for 3p, so that I share a viewpoint there (via my tinfoil last night) with speed shouldn’t be a damning thing for me, buckwheat.

I kept my vote on you because TH WANTED ME TO. Jesus man, you’re not seeing the big picture and it’s pissing me off. I feel like I changed votes like 6 times yesterday around the same people but come on

[Turnip Head]

MP should be getting more attention 0_0

I bet it's easy for him to fake dogpee when he wants to

[dunya]

don't y'all think the scum team have bigger fish to worry about than an assumed 3p who is allegedly aligned with town who they don't even have to eliminate to win?

[Jackofhearts2005]

If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

[Turnip Head]

don't y'all think the scum team have bigger fish to worry about than an assumed 3p who is allegedly aligned with town who they don't even have to eliminate to win?

Who are these big fish you're talking about?

omg i wonder if its me

[dunya]

I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

Well it’s Speed and Scotty bringing it up.

Have a glass and ask if Scotty would do that after his partner gets lynched doing it.

Scotty doesn’t seem to be aware of either my case or Daisy’s case, though, so he’d likely not be aware of that. Speed had a strong suspicion of me being 3P. He’d been feeling that way for sometime if you look at our exchanges. He’d have talked about it on BTSC. Scotty would share the same opinion if he’s bad going into yesterday. He’s still holding it.

He didn’t read my case against Speed yesterday (as evidenced by him prodding me today and standing by his assertion that there’s no way to read me) because he had already decided that I was 3P and would make a good lynch. He was quick to dismiss the case as something he’d “pressured” out of me.

A townie would both be happy about my newfound contributions and would evaluate the case on Speed. After all, that was his stated reason for going after me and he’d been mildly suspicious of Speedchuck all game. A juicy case from Jack against Speed should have given Scotty a chance to come to a decision about both of us.

Scotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

I would add that it not the hardest thing to imagine that baddies would be looking for 3p, so that I share a viewpoint there (via my tinfoil last night) with speed shouldn’t be a damning thing for me, buckwheat.

I kept my vote on you because TH WANTED ME TO.

[Turnip Head]

i was pretty convincing

[dunya]

If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

Saying Quin is 3P is a cop out. He’s not 3P so we do need to evaluate him.

[dunya]

i was pretty convincing

cos you're big fish man

[Scotty]

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

And this is the post that I called him out on from D1. Self-limiting himself to 7 scum reads fir GTH.

I’ve brought this up before but I’ll reiterate that he lists nova as his biggest surprise- he says he “considered” changing his vote to nova, but held firm on Epi. His big defense is that he doesn’t “have a reason to vote nova”. Big vote of confidence there. His Pom Pom might as well be made of cactus spines.

So if he was considering about voting nova, what changed from this read list to the rainbow list on D2 where nova was on supatown level?

I think the rest of us were kinda talking about nova at that point and speed's saying like "I don't see it". So I could read that either way... doesn't point to anything conclusive for me re: Nova.

Yeah, I can see it going both ways sure.

It’s shit like this that nova can’t even defend against or respond to because of the implication of another person. It’s still sitting weird with me tho

[Turnip Head]

I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

I broke Scotty down with memes until he could take no more, he finally shriveled into a pure essence, and then I manipulated his brain waves and mindfucked him into following my every command.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m digging Dunya getting back into the game.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

I broke Scotty down with memes until he could take no more, he finally shriveled into a pure essence, and then I manipulated his brain waves and mindfucked him into following my every command.

That checks out.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

Come out and plaaaaaaaaaaay.

[dunya]

brace ya'lls selves. I am ISOing Marmot--6 pages of the Marmar.

[dunya]

I’m digging Dunya getting back into the game.

blame Jay. I begged him to start the game after I got back from Paris. he didn't listen to me cos he doesn't love me. </3

[Scotty]

I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

I started on TH, people came to his defense, then looked to you, the Playdoh Platypus, Vice President of the IDGAF. The lack of focus you guys had made me peeved, so I voted there and TH joined me. Then when I went away, he suggested raising pressure to get you to open up and I was like “ok, that sounds good to me”! Then in my frustrated state I found your reads coming out to be from a forced perspective. As it went on, my eyes were opened to the possibility that maybe our pressure was working and you busted out of your silly cocoon or even that you were indie and had a reason to play serious.

In any case, I’m moving on

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m digging Dunya getting back into the game.

blame Jay. I begged him to start the game after I got back from Paris. he didn't listen to me cos he doesn't love me. </3

Smh.

[Scotty]

If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

Saying Quin is 3P is a cop out. He’s not 3P so we do need to evaluate him.

Why do you know this

[Jackofhearts2005]

If I wasn’t green, I’d change my title to “Playdoh Platypus” forever.

[dunya]

I think he secretly didn't wanna endure 700 posts on 1 phase this game so thought my trip was a blessing. whatevs jay, whatevs.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

Saying Quin is 3P is a cop out. He’s not 3P so we do need to evaluate him.

Why do you know this

Look, I don’t want Dunya to get mad at me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Playdoh Platypuses made silly cocoons once every five games and then emerge as real Platypuses but with scumreads.

[Spacedaisy]

MP should be getting more attention 0_0

I bet it's easy for him to fake dogpee when he wants to

He's not faking. That's civ MP.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Platypi?

[Scotty]

I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

I broke Scotty down with memes until he could take no more, he finally shriveled into a pure essence, and then I manipulated his brain waves and mindfucked him into following my every command.

[Spacedaisy]

[mention]dunya[/mention] ISO meeeeeee! I'm curious how you'll read me now that I've left stuff to go on.

[Scotty]

MP should be getting more attention 0_0

I bet it's easy for him to fake dogpee when he wants to

He's not faking. That's civ MP.

Yeah I trust Mp and that he trusts you in this game makes me trust you, which makes me trust myself

[colonialbob]

Town reads:
Speedchuck
Choutas
Dom
Kylemii
Kites
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
M Plus 7

Remainders:
ColinIsCool
dunya - Dunya's questioning is all over the place, but I remember it being that way in MK and in Vocaroo. She actually ended up getting lynched for it in MK, even though she pointed out the scumteam. I can't clear Dunya on a meta read, though, because I've never played with scum dunya.
Epignosis
Golden - Has done some really towny things. I didn't even mind his meta defense, but for a couple of posts that pinged me. Those that Mac didn't point out, I already did.
Jackofhearts2005
lapluie
Long Con
Lunalee
MacDougall - Wanna see how he approaches non-golden players before assigning a townread
Marmot
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
wolbre04

Feel free to call me on any of these reads. Busy day, can't do them all, so this list is for you to pick and choose.
I'll narrow down and pick out scumreads from my remainders by tomorrow.

He included Colin in his “remainder” section, without comment. I’d expect him to include at least 1, maybe 2 others in this section with Colin.

What’s odd to me is that he put Kites (now Quin) in the town read section even though Kites’ only contribution at that point was basically “hey I need to be replaced”

And yet lapluie (now Xbox), who posted just as much, was in the remainder.

Gut tells me one of them is bad

Sirrah, I am offended.

Xbox indeed. Hmmph.

[colonialbob]

If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

I agree, but the point on quin isn't a bad one for PoE purposes.

[dunya]

if MP was scum, I feel like he would have asked to be replaced. I know it's silly, but really, when he's under pressure and busy he feels he has a greater moral responsibility towards a scum team than a town of 20. is that naive of me?

daisy, I will. I have Marmot and Scotty who are priorities. Marmot before EON I hope. If I'm around tomorrow, Scotty, JOH and I can squeeze and updated ISO of you. I do like what I'm seeing from you though. I don't recall any recent pings despite you and nova having been on conflicting ends.

[Spacedaisy]

No rush! It's more out of curiosity about how you read me more than anything else, LOL