The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 8:37 am I’d go back to being silly again but I’ve been on a long townie cold streak and I just broke it with Speedchuck. I’m greedy. I want another baddie dead by my efforts.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 2:47 pm “Saying Speed is probably bad and voting for Nova instead does not count.”

Nova is looking better and better and every time you choose to attack the messenger (Jack is 3P, You’re beating a dead horse, Is that a scumslip from Jack, You know that isn’t true) instead of actually addressing why I’m saying you’re bad, the worse you look.

Defend yourself of get lynched.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:19 pm I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

speedchuck wrote: Town reads:
Speedchuck
Choutas
Dom
Kylemii
Kites
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
M Plus 7

Remainders:
ColinIsCool
dunya - Dunya's questioning is all over the place, but I remember it being that way in MK and in Vocaroo. She actually ended up getting lynched for it in MK, even though she pointed out the scumteam. I can't clear Dunya on a meta read, though, because I've never played with scum dunya.
Epignosis
Golden - Has done some really towny things. I didn't even mind his meta defense, but for a couple of posts that pinged me. Those that Mac didn't point out, I already did.
Jackofhearts2005
lapluie
Long Con
Lunalee
MacDougall - Wanna see how he approaches non-golden players before assigning a townread
Marmot
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
wolbre04

Feel free to call me on any of these reads. Busy day, can't do them all, so this list is for you to pick and choose.
I'll narrow down and pick out scumreads from my remainders by tomorrow.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:03 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:57 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:55 am @MacDougall Do you still want votes piled on ColinisCool?

What do you want?

If he's still doing a thing, I want to help.

If not, and I wanted to consolidate, I'd vote Sloonei. I suspect Sloon more than Colin. (though I do suspect Colin, or I wouldn't be asking)

But what I really want to do is start some entirely new votes since we're only a fourth of the way through the day. I'd probably start with @Quin. My Quindar has not given me the genu-Quin townread yet, and I usually get that as soon as he starts posting.

speedchuck wrote:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:52 pm Thanks, care to answer my other question now?

I completely missed your other question.

Have a rainbow of my mindset.

speedchuck
MacDougall
Golden
dunya
novaselinenever
Long Con
Scotty
Kylemii
Lunalee
wolbre04
Sloonei
Dom
Marmot
M Plus 7
Choutas
Kites / Quin
lapluie / colonialbob
Spacedaisy
Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool

It's mutidimensional, too. I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement. This is based on a skim, and I feel like a third of the game isn't taking things seriously. Which is fun and all, but I can't do it, nor can I read it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:55 pm

speedchuck wrote:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:52 pm Thanks, care to answer my other question now?

I completely missed your other question.

Have a rainbow of my mindset.

speedchuck
MacDougall
Golden
dunya
novaselinenever
Long Con
Scotty
Kylemii
Lunalee
wolbre04
Sloonei
Dom
Marmot
M Plus 7
Choutas
Kites / Quin
lapluie / colonialbob
Spacedaisy
Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool

It's mutidimensional, too. I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement. This is based on a skim, and I feel like a third of the game isn't taking things seriously. Which is fun and all, but I can't do it, nor can I read it.

Looking at this insightful D2 rainbow again.

Note that lap/cbob is now in the orange, even though he hasn’t talked about cbob yet. And Quin(kites) is also in orange- he did talk about Quin and the “Quindar”. Again, I think this is a good look for Quin.

Note also that he bolded certain people. Seems kinda arbitrary. Dunno what that means.

He also lists nova as a strong town read with the likes of Mac. Why?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:55 pm

speedchuck wrote:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:52 pm Thanks, care to answer my other question now?

I completely missed your other question.

Have a rainbow of my mindset.

speedchuck
MacDougall
Golden
dunya
novaselinenever
Long Con
Scotty
Kylemii
Lunalee
wolbre04
Sloonei
Dom
Marmot
M Plus 7
Choutas
Kites / Quin
lapluie / colonialbob
Spacedaisy
Jackofhearts2005
Turnip Head
ColinIsCool

It's mutidimensional, too. I bolded people if I felt confident about their placement. This is based on a skim, and I feel like a third of the game isn't taking things seriously. Which is fun and all, but I can't do it, nor can I read it.

Note also that he bolded certain people. Seems kinda arbitrary. Dunno what that means.

speedchuck wrote:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:49 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:47 pm I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:16 pm Why is kites/quin a more confident read than lapluie/cbob? speedchuck

I have a quindar. I don't have a cbobbar.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:19 pm I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:02 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:16 pm Why is kites/quin a more confident read than lapluie/cbob? speedchuck

I have a quindar. I don't have a cbobbar.

when questioned about why he was scum reading quin and not cbob, his reply.

uninspiring reason. Quin does look better. but y'know, wifom and all dat.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:01 pm

speedchuck wrote:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:49 pm Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

And this is the post that I called him out on from D1. Self-limiting himself to 7 scum reads fir GTH.

I’ve brought this up before but I’ll reiterate that he lists nova as his biggest surprise- he says he “considered” changing his vote to nova, but held firm on Epi. His big defense is that he doesn’t “have a reason to vote nova”. Big vote of confidence there. His Pom Pom might as well be made of cactus spines.

So if he was considering about voting nova, what changed from this read list to the rainbow list on D2 where nova was on supatown level?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:03 pmScotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:03 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:19 pm I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

Well it’s Speed and Scotty bringing it up.

Have a glass and ask if Scotty would do that after his partner gets lynched doing it.

Scotty doesn’t seem to be aware of either my case or Daisy’s case, though, so he’d likely not be aware of that. Speed had a strong suspicion of me being 3P. He’d been feeling that way for sometime if you look at our exchanges. He’d have talked about it on BTSC. Scotty would share the same opinion if he’s bad going into yesterday. He’s still holding it.

He didn’t read my case against Speed yesterday (as evidenced by him prodding me today and standing by his assertion that there’s no way to read me) because he had already decided that I was 3P and would make a good lynch. He was quick to dismiss the case as something he’d “pressured” out of me.

A townie would both be happy about my newfound contributions and would evaluate the case on Speed. After all, that was his stated reason for going after me and he’d been mildly suspicious of Speedchuck all game. A juicy case from Jack against Speed should have given Scotty a chance to come to a decision about both of us.

Scotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:09 pm don't y'all think the scum team have bigger fish to worry about than an assumed 3p who is allegedly aligned with town who they don't even have to eliminate to win?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:03 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:19 pm I don't understand how whether or not jack is 3P should ever effect anyone's views on anything involved in this game

why does it keep getting brought up as if it's an important data point

Well it’s Speed and Scotty bringing it up.

Have a glass and ask if Scotty would do that after his partner gets lynched doing it.

Scotty doesn’t seem to be aware of either my case or Daisy’s case, though, so he’d likely not be aware of that. Speed had a strong suspicion of me being 3P. He’d been feeling that way for sometime if you look at our exchanges. He’d have talked about it on BTSC. Scotty would share the same opinion if he’s bad going into yesterday. He’s still holding it.

He didn’t read my case against Speed yesterday (as evidenced by him prodding me today and standing by his assertion that there’s no way to read me) because he had already decided that I was 3P and would make a good lynch. He was quick to dismiss the case as something he’d “pressured” out of me.

A townie would both be happy about my newfound contributions and would evaluate the case on Speed. After all, that was his stated reason for going after me and he’d been mildly suspicious of Speedchuck all game. A juicy case from Jack against Speed should have given Scotty a chance to come to a decision about both of us.

Scotty did neither. He kept his vote on me and when that didn’t happen, switched his vote to Nova. He didn’t evaluate my case because his mind was made up. Jack should be discredited and lynched. Cause Jack hasn’t tried very hard yet and he’d go quietly, not because Scotty ever thought Jack was mafia.

So much for that plan.

I would add that it not the hardest thing to imagine that baddies would be looking for 3p, so that I share a viewpoint there (via my tinfoil last night) with speed shouldn’t be a damning thing for me, buckwheat.

I kept my vote on you because TH WANTED ME TO.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:11 pm If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:11 pm If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:12 pm i was pretty convincing

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:01 pm

speedchuck wrote:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:49 pm Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

And this is the post that I called him out on from D1. Self-limiting himself to 7 scum reads fir GTH.

I’ve brought this up before but I’ll reiterate that he lists nova as his biggest surprise- he says he “considered” changing his vote to nova, but held firm on Epi. His big defense is that he doesn’t “have a reason to vote nova”. Big vote of confidence there. His Pom Pom might as well be made of cactus spines.

So if he was considering about voting nova, what changed from this read list to the rainbow list on D2 where nova was on supatown level?

I think the rest of us were kinda talking about nova at that point and speed's saying like "I don't see it". So I could read that either way... doesn't point to anything conclusive for me re: Nova.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

I broke Scotty down with memes until he could take no more, he finally shriveled into a pure essence, and then I manipulated his brain waves and mindfucked him into following my every command.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:17 pm I’m digging Dunya getting back into the game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:17 pm I’m digging Dunya getting back into the game.

blame Jay. I begged him to start the game after I got back from Paris. he didn't listen to me cos he doesn't love me. </3

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:14 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:11 pm If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

Saying Quin is 3P is a cop out. He’s not 3P so we do need to evaluate him.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:21 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:14 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:11 pm If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.

Saying Quin is 3P is a cop out. He’s not 3P so we do need to evaluate him.

Why do you know this

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:08 pm MP should be getting more attention 0_0

I bet it's easy for him to fake dogpee when he wants to

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm I’m not sure why Scotty raised against me and TH and then decided that TH gets to control his vote but whatever. I’m sure that’s NAI.

I broke Scotty down with memes until he could take no more, he finally shriveled into a pure essence, and then I manipulated his brain waves and mindfucked him into following my every command.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:26 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:08 pm MP should be getting more attention 0_0

I bet it's easy for him to fake dogpee when he wants to

He's not faking. That's civ MP.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 3:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: Town reads:
Speedchuck
Choutas
Dom
Kylemii
Kites
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
M Plus 7

Remainders:
ColinIsCool
dunya - Dunya's questioning is all over the place, but I remember it being that way in MK and in Vocaroo. She actually ended up getting lynched for it in MK, even though she pointed out the scumteam. I can't clear Dunya on a meta read, though, because I've never played with scum dunya.
Epignosis
Golden - Has done some really towny things. I didn't even mind his meta defense, but for a couple of posts that pinged me. Those that Mac didn't point out, I already did.
Jackofhearts2005
lapluie
Long Con
Lunalee
MacDougall - Wanna see how he approaches non-golden players before assigning a townread
Marmot
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy
Turnip Head
wolbre04

Feel free to call me on any of these reads. Busy day, can't do them all, so this list is for you to pick and choose.
I'll narrow down and pick out scumreads from my remainders by tomorrow.

He included Colin in his “remainder” section, without comment. I’d expect him to include at least 1, maybe 2 others in this section with Colin.

What’s odd to me is that he put Kites (now Quin) in the town read section even though Kites’ only contribution at that point was basically “hey I need to be replaced”

And yet lapluie (now Xbox), who posted just as much, was in the remainder.

Gut tells me one of them is bad

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:11 pm If Scotty doesn’t want to defend himself, that’s all I have to say about him.

I’ll be looking into Nova next. Maybe Dunya.

Quin’s likely not 3P. All the 3Ps made early trades. I don’t remember when Quin replaces in but I think all three 3P players have been around or else those trades wouldn’t have gone through.

jesus christ can we stop talking about 3ps for like 10 minutes. we are hunting for PERSIANS. we need to get rid of the PERSIANS to win. I don't give 2 shits who's 3p atm.