The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:48 pm
I was wrong but my read looks and feels authentic, you even said so yourself earlier. It wasn't until Mac actually flipped that you've now started calling my reads "disingenuous" and considering my contributions to be "nothing". I will pull your quotes if I have to. I can see now that you were being opportunistic at the time when you called my read of him authentic, and you are being opportunistic again after his flip, calling my reads "disingenuous" and "nothing".
You're taking advantage of my reads
when
they
suit
your
agenda

You are Mac's actual teammate, I'm the unwitting pawn on your chessboard.

He hadn't flipped yet = turnip's reads look real and good
After Mac flips = I hate all of turnip's read, bullet point by bullet point

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

Wow bad and wrong and fake opinion tbh.



Listen to your friendly neighborhood ghost's spicy uninformed opinions, even if they're sometimes wrong Lynch Jay I mean, after sig, lol >_>

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:59 pm
Tldr roughly tiered rainbow

Jack
Dom
-
Gman
juliets
-
TH
speed
nanook
Epi
-
Colin
Tranq
-
Sloonei
Tony
Michelle
-
Ted
Jay

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:14 pm ...I'd like to have a nice discourse about Jay v Turnip.

They both sound yucky.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:12 pm Turnip Head on MacDougall:

Spoiler: show

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:43 pm @Turnip Head can you extrapolate on your Dom/Nutella worldview please?

I mean I could, but I'm sure it could be refuted by logic and big brains

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:23 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:54 amWhen I am bad, I tend to try to make a big case and a big splash early to distract from lurking teammates, but I am an outlier. Most people don't do this. Of the people making big splashy cases, I found Mac the most suspish. He is also an outlier in general, and I saw him do something like it when he was bad when I hosted the Champs game with TH several years ago; make a big splashy play. @Turnip Head,do you recall this? It was end game, though, so not exactly the same, I was thinking more of his thread play.

I remember Mac being a hilariously evil genius in that game, but not the specific play you're referring to

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:53 pm Townish people:
G-man
Turnip (?)
Juliets (?)
Nook (?)
Ted (?)
Sig?

Scum:
Almost everyone else?

Jack town
Mac town
Jimmy town
Dom town

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Mac is town, this quote is exhibit A

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:02 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:57 am What's up?

We're rescuing Mac from getting wreckt

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

I really really really really dislike his flip flop on how he read me and Nutella. He declared me a wolf and Nutella one we should follow after the two of us started battling. Then like 12 hours later, I was town and Nutella was scum because I read her perfectly.

His argument for Nutella being scum exists in its entirety at the time he expressed a strong townread on her. His read change does not come from a town perspective. It comes from a scum perspective mimicking townplay, ie trusting Jack's Nutella read.

Why would baddie Mac express a strong townread on nutella and then flip flop just as soon? Why would a bad guy do that? It's a townie maneuever, just like your exact opposite flip flop was (I assume) townie.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:20 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:17 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am Cause town has perverse incentive to cooperate with scum that have good SRs on the opposite team, so you see mac as doing that and think it’s a townie mindset

Would be my guess anyways

That's exactly what I think. Baddie Mac doesn't make that post, his instinct would be to write with a different angle

idgi

you said essentially the same thing one post before mine (I got caught in linki), so I think you do get it...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:54 am [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine I don't like his unwavering suspicion of Mac and I especially don't like his reasoning re: Mac's changing opinion of Nutella

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:48 am Does anyone know how many toes MacDougall has? This is important to my read of him. He may not even be able to wear civ shoes.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:49 am For real though Mac is clearly town and anyone who can't see that is not trying hard enough

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:14 pm I have been calling TH one of my top townreads on gut, but I can't deny they're compatible with mac

Because we're soulmates

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:49 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:45 pm I am a sorcerer and each day I say “Abrica-fucking-dabra, Kalamazoo, I’m gonna make a rabbit out of you!” and nothing happens it will become more obvious.

Really? That's neat.

Really cool. Goes nowhere

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:18 am The case on Mac is top notch cringe mainly driven by Sig's woman scorned persona

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:23 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:18 am Anybody got thoughts about ted?

I appreciate his existence and would prefer it to continue

What if he just lived on as a ghost for a little bit

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:44 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:37 am He also compared you to g-man as if that's his pet vote

I don't follow your point here?

Like why would a civ bother doing that. He's setting up a "suspicion" in the same breath as "defending" you

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:01 am I encourage everybody to read in detail those Ted quotes that Mac posted, and tell me if that's not a scum looking for a read on Mac while pushing a g-man scapegoat agenda

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:44 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:34 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:14 am This is a fun take. In a world where Mac isn't on the Master team I could entertain a world where Ted is. Also yeah I feel like we haven't heard from him in a while.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:01 am I encourage everybody to read in detail those Ted quotes that Mac posted, and tell me if that's not a scum looking for a read on Mac while pushing a g-man scapegoat agenda

Okay I’m getting lost in all of these nets but this definitely doesn’t scan. If Ted is scum, he knows that Mac is not. He doesn’t need to probe Mac to try to find that.

Mr. Stark I know you're a billionaire Playboy genius but there's two mafia teams...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:54 am TonyStarkPrime
Yes because Ted is bad and unsure if Mac is on the other team, but leaning towards him not being in the other tean

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:08 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:51 pm @Turnip Head
I see you why not switch to Mac?

Tell me why your voting me vs him?

Mac is town and you're maybe town. The thread seems convinced that you're both bad, if I had my way we'd be lynching Ted or pressuring jack

Gripes, starting with colored stuff:

Yellow: TH isn't merely defending Mac, they're telling us what Mac's instincts are. How should they know? That looks bogus to me.

Orange: TH's read on Mac is standout; the language they used and confidence they expressed were one of a kind in his posts. And there's close to nothing to justify that confidence. What follows is as much as there was:

Burnt orange: The read is heavily predicated upon Mac's flip of his nutella read. First of all, the entire premise that this is something mafia don't do is just balogna. Of course they do that. They do it all the time. Second, assigning that assessment to MacDougall of all people is additionally hard to believe. Mac is capable of just about anything, and one needn't play many games with him to determine that. Third, even if one accepts the premise that this was a "good look", it makes no sense to me for the look to be so good that Mac is rendered beyond reproach.

The read looks fake to me.

I was wrong but my read looks and feels authentic, you even said so yourself earlier. It wasn't until Mac actually flipped that you've now started calling my reads "disingenuous" and considering my contributions to be "nothing". I will pull your quotes if I have to. I can see now that you were being opportunistic at the time when you called my read of him authentic, and you are being opportunistic again after his flip, calling my reads "disingenuous" and "nothing".
You're taking advantage of my reads
when
they
suit
your
agenda

You are Mac's actual teammate, I'm the unwitting pawn on your chessboard.

He hadn't flipped yet = turnip's reads look real and good
After Mac flips = I hate all of turnip's read, bullet point by bullet point

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:15 pm One thing I will grant with Turnip Head is that my mindset may be at least in part a product of process of elimination -- if it's not him, then who?

I think the following people could be Mac teammates at least to the extent of a shrug, in that I don't overtly read them as civilians and cannot dissociate them confidently from Mac:

ColinIsCool
Epignosis
Michelle
speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime
Tranq
Turnip Head

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:16 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:15 pm One thing I will grant with Turnip Head is that my mindset may be at least in part a product of process of elimination -- if it's not him, then who?

I think the following people could be Mac teammates at least to the extent of a shrug, in that I don't overtly read them as civilians and cannot dissociate them confidently from Mac:

ColinIsCool
Epignosis
Michelle
speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime
Tranq
Turnip Head

It's not process of elimination if you have 7 suspects.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @TonyStarkPrime tell me about that vote

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @TonyStarkPrime tell me about that vote

That was the first “not Sig” candidate vote. It’s representative of an idea, and a poorly formed one.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @TonyStarkPrime tell me about that vote

That was the first “not Sig” candidate vote. It’s representative of an idea, and a poorly formed one.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @TonyStarkPrime tell me about that vote

That was the first “not Sig” candidate vote. It’s representative of an idea, and a poorly formed one.

I can’t get a grasp on Jack. It makes me uncomfortable.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @Sloonei what is your read on me?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:36 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @Sloonei what is your read on me?

town

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:34 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @TonyStarkPrime tell me about that vote

That was the first “not Sig” candidate vote. It’s representative of an idea, and a poorly formed one.

Cool. Can you try to expand to some degree on the poorly formed idea?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:38 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:36 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @Sloonei what is your read on me?

town

I feel like we've been less connected in this game than in games past. I grant that we've both had less time to be here for whatever reasons.

What do you think of Epignosis?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am @TonyStarkPrime tell me about that vote

That was the first “not Sig” candidate vote. It’s representative of an idea, and a poorly formed one.

I can’t get a grasp on Jack. It makes me uncomfortable.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:40 am Day 4 I would have advocated hard for the lynch Sig plan. I did, to some extent, in our three person bubble. Today I think that we’re perhaps better off searching elsewhere — for two main reasons:
1) Three townies just died. With a missed Night 5 kill and then a likely Day 6 AM lynch (since the masters team knows who AM is, I think), we’re at 10v3 going into day 7 with no leads. With a good Night 5 kill, 11v2. I think we can pull off better than that with other options.
2) I don’t want this day to go nowhere.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:41 am The reason Jay can't find Mac's team is cause he's on Mac's team gottem.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:27 am Jack tell me why Epignosis is not Mac's teammate.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:42 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:40 am Day 4 I would have advocated hard for the lynch Sig plan. I did, to some extent, in our three person bubble. Today I think that we’re perhaps better off searching elsewhere — for two main reasons:
1) Three townies just died. With a missed Night 5 kill and then a likely Day 6 AM lynch (since the masters team knows who AM is, I think), we’re at 10v3 going into day 7 with no leads. With a good Night 5 kill, 11v2. I think we can pull off better than that with other options.
2) I don’t want this day to go nowhere.

I don't necessarily disagree with your strategic perspective. I'm lynching sig anyway to eliminate his role. I was referring to the idea underlying your vote for Turnip Head instead of [insert some other non-sig player here].

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:41 am The reason Jay can't find Mac's team is cause he's on Mac's team gottem.

Do you think juliets is bad?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:27 am Jack tell me why Epignosis is not Mac's teammate.

Cause then you wouldn't be so suspicious of him.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:45 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:41 am The reason Jay can't find Mac's team is cause he's on Mac's team gottem.

Do you think juliets is bad?

Tbd.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:46 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:45 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:41 am The reason Jay can't find Mac's team is cause he's on Mac's team gottem.

Do you think juliets is bad?

Tbd.

Then you're probably the anti-monitor.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:17 pm Jay-- put Turnip and sig aside.
Who do we lynch?

Gun to my head lynch choice: speedchuck

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I can't remember posts from him that made me feel like he is innocent. He has floated around and amounted to next to no production or memorable anything.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:27 am Jack tell me why Epignosis is not Mac's teammate.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:51 am K. Push me.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:53 am ...what game are you trying to solve?
It isn't this one.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:53 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:27 am Jack tell me why Epignosis is not Mac's teammate.

Thought you suspected speedchuck?