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Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 am**

if the two people who are playing the catching up game are on the same team than the third member of that team cannot be dom and THATS and obfuscative TSP read to end the thread on GOOD NIGHT

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:43 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 am if the two people who are playing the catching up game are on the same team than the third member of that team cannot be dom and THATS and obfuscative TSP read to end the thread on GOOD NIGHT

I really don’t know what you are on about here. People need to work, sleep, do other things. How else are they supposed to know what’s going on without catching up?

You say you aren’t trying to derail the thread and want to be asked questions instead of people just saying you are “lock mafia.” But I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment to either. You have been asked loads of questions, and I don’t see how your actions aren’t derailing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:45 am**

was the thread derailed when i voted for marmot arbitrarily

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 am**

the catching up game is something else catching up is important people should read the thread

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:51 am**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:06 pm its a novas game so there should be super kills

just found this gem anyone have a thought

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:53 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:51 am
AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:06 pm its a novas game so there should be super kills
just found this gem anyone have a thought

Possible TMI if it isn't terminology used by Nova a lot in games.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:57 am**

it's just too funny to not be something right

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:57 am**

are they from the same place? I don't really know about either of their mafia histories

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:58 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 am the catching up game is something else catching up is important people should read the thread

Ok what is the “catching up game”

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 am**

@AL_sama do you have much history with Nova's games?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:03 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:36 am finally, like ok I don't want to fake indignance because I do recognize I'm being a bit of a git here but like I really don't think I've tried to derail the thread and I don't even think I've been all that confusing and ok if people believe that to be true that's fine but I'd like for someone to ask me about something if it doesn't make sense instead of being like "see look tsp is lock mafia" every time I post.

you have 400 posts. I don't really have the time or energy to start a conversation about every random read you throw out

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:06 am**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:37 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted
I would LOVE to hear more! How do you think ted is playing? What's got you suspicious?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:37 pm I'm wondering if catching up with/without live tweeting it is ever a town / scum tell

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm 1) Do we believe that AL_sama is indeed caught up?

2) Do we believe that AL_sama has been catching up?

3) Do we believe that tedxtr is a believable vote?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm 1) Do we believe that AL_sama is indeed caught up?

2) Do we believe that AL_sama has been catching up?

3) Do we believe that tedxtr is a believable vote?
Flashbacks to Finale Hally

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:08 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:03 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:36 am finally, like ok I don't want to fake indignance because I do recognize I'm being a bit of a git here but like I really don't think I've tried to derail the thread and I don't even think I've been all that confusing and ok if people believe that to be true that's fine but I'd like for someone to ask me about something if it doesn't make sense instead of being like "see look tsp is lock mafia" every time I post.
you have 400 posts. I don't really have the time or energy to start a conversation about every random read you throw out

I’m not subtweeting you

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:10 am**

So al is playing the “catching up game” you think?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:11 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:10 am So al is playing the “catching up game” you think?

The game is sorta the question of whether or not y know what this terminology is bad I should make a new terminology

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:13 am**

But yes, the initial post refers to you and Al Sama

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:13 am**

@Long Con Im serious about the second town core thing; hit me up if you’re interested

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:48 am**

I will answer, Al has experience with nova's games and super kills are common place. They are kills that bypass protections

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:10 am**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:48 am I will answer, Al has experience with nova's games and super kills are common place. They are kills that bypass protections

I apologise if this has already been addressed and I missed it or forgot, but do you have a lot of experience with Al from games on other sites?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:23 am**

I just remembered some things I wanted to comment on.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:10 pm Fingersplints might just be, actually. Yes, I do think fingersplints is mafia.

This reads like you are trying to talk yourself into this suspicion because you think it looks good for you. Later you call it “less tailgatey” (or some term similar) but plenty of people have already mentioned me, so it’s hardly an original suspicion.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:15 pm I want to answer GTH fingersplints scum. She has been just a little too questiony and a little too careful. Or too polite. Something set me off about her posts more than once, even though I know that each term she asked about was something she genuinely didn't know.

So you think my questions are genuine but suspicious? That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
As far as being careful and polite, I was very aware that when I returned to mafia at this time that I was doing so at a time when my moods are quite explosive, and I am determined not to bring any hormonal outrage into any thread I am in. I don’t want to make any game not fun, so there have been multiple times in each game I’ve played where I’ve stepped away for something stupid annoying me. You can confirm with keys post game if you’d like that the littlest things set me off

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:39 am**

so no town kp last night by the way

I find that odd in a game this large

especially with accelerated scum kp

realistically not having a vigi in town is just kinda unbalanced

I think this points to smaller mafia teams

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:41 am**

the alternative is that town is inherently disadvantaged

this is also very possible cause we're in a fucking multiball game

ugh I don't mean to be rude to the host but I just have a personal vendetta against this shit

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:44 am**

@Alison are all your abilities day actions? If so I can doctor you tonight

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:56 am**

I personally think it’s too early to say if the game is unbalanced or to say the town is inherently disadvantaged. I think we are in a good position right now. Yes, we lost Jay and Mac, but we also lynched a wolf day 1 and I think are in good position to lynch another. Maybe I’m just being optimistic, but I believe some of the abilities will balance it out.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:02 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:10 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:48 am I will answer, Al has experience with nova's games and super kills are common place. They are kills that bypass protections
I apologise if this has already been addressed and I missed it or forgot, but do you have a lot of experience with Al from games on other sites?

I have enough experience

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:28 am**

Spoiler: show

I don't like that huge wagon
[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:30 am**

TonyStarkPrime
6
32%
Voters: Oddmerta, Alison, Esooa, fingersplints, KZA, tedxtr

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:30 am**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:02 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:10 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:48 am I will answer, Al has experience with nova's games and super kills are common place. They are kills that bypass protections
I apologise if this has already been addressed and I missed it or forgot, but do you have a lot of experience with Al from games on other sites?
I have enough experience

I can confirm

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:32 am**

Fos at fingersplints for speculating game balance.
Why is this your concern?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:34 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:27 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:59 am Morning, RIP Jay

I read Ted's Iso, and looking at the confidence he told me he deserves a town read I think he is town, except I am wrong but I don't want to tinfoil.

So i gave
VVV
Ted
V
Sloonei
Al
Bo
Probably wolfing TSP

These reads are related to the parts of the game i read, so don't expect me to have perfect reads.

Work time screwed me so cya after
Hey Michelle, care to read my conversation with Ted over the last couple pages?

Why? Do you think is AI indicative?
I will catch up, if I will, at my own pace and reading what I feel I need, I don't accept tasks, but in a way I appreciate the fact you let me read instead imposing your opinion, this makes me strenghten my TR for you and put you at VV

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:39 am**

So finger goes at mafia lean
Nanook ignored me so it's a good vote

TSP received after my vote other 3 votes pretty fast, and looking at the lack of a counter wagon I feel less confident about the read.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:42 am**

I didn't notice we have 2 flips

@Alison how did you know they are villagers?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:59 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:32 am Fos at fingersplints for speculating game balance.
Why is this your concern?

My game balance speculation was posted directly after Esooa’s game balance speculation post.
My concern about it was that Esooa, who have been reading as town thus far, sounded a bit annoyed/defeated by the balance with the “ugh I don’t mean to be rude to the host” and the like, and I just don’t think we are there yet. As I said, I think we are in a good position still. I’d rather the town keep positive

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:17 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:59 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:32 am Fos at fingersplints for speculating game balance.
Why is this your concern?
My game balance speculation was posted directly after Esooa’s game balance speculation post.
My concern about it was that Esooa, who have been reading as town thus far, sounded a bit annoyed/defeated by the balance with the “ugh I don’t mean to be rude to the host” and the like, and I just don’t think we are there yet. As I said, I think we are in a good position still. I’d rather the town keep positive

Nova is an experienced host, discussions about balance should not exist except someone has TMI about balance and the ones complaining cannot be townies imo.

Esooa drops on scum leans as well, near you

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:24 am**

Goodmorning folks. Did I miss anything?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list

Hey man nice hedges

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:42 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:59 am Morning, RIP Jay

I read Ted's Iso, and looking at the confidence he told me he deserves a town read I think he is town, except I am wrong but I don't want to tinfoil.

So i gave
VVV
Ted
V
Sloonei
Al
Bo
Probably wolfing TSP

These reads are related to the parts of the game i read, so don't expect me to have perfect reads.

Work time screwed me so cya after

What does VVV and V mean?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:15 am How in the ever loving fuck did you go from "I don't believe Alison's bullshit claim for a second" to "Alison is in tier 1, the mech confirms"

How the ever loving fuck did you arrive at "Sloonei is the only consensus town"

How the ever loving fuck did you arrive at "only Sloonei and TSP are interested in solving"

fwiw TSP also said wolfy pie charts -> probably town for them. The progression on his reads are making zero sense for me and I feel like he's a scum who's currently spiralling right now.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:48 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:43 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:40 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:39 am The town core is the people who I think are going to work to solve the game and right now it's you and me.
Which players do you think we have the best reasons to regard as town?
in order:

tier 1: the mech

hally
--
odd
alison

tier 2: good vibes??

sloonei
straw
falcon
esooa

tier 3: ehhhh
spf
jpic
nanook
bk
lc
Michelle

tier 4:
finger
kza
al
ted

unr: dom (but I think more likely wolf for reasons)

KZA claimed one of the trooper slots.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:52 am**

Yes I know

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list
Hey man nice hedges

I can say you’re not town if it makes you feel better

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:52 am Yes I know

That doesn't bump him up in the rankings a little?

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am**

Yes it does

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am**

Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list
Hey man nice hedges
I can say you’re not town if it makes you feel better

Well, I'd prefer if you just said what's on your mind and gave us your thoughts straight.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:55 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~

I wouldn't say it holds as much weight as Odd's, but it took him out of my PoE.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:57 am**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list
Hey man nice hedges
I can say you’re not town if it makes you feel better
Well, I'd prefer if you just said what's on your mind and gave us your thoughts straight.

I did but you didn’t like that

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:58 am**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~
I wouldn't say it holds as much weight as Odd's, but it took him out of my PoE.

Yeah, this is reasonable. I don’t think KZA is a good chop for today at least. I’ll have to review his interactions with Marmot, I skipped over him earlier.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:59 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:57 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list
Hey man nice hedges
I can say you’re not town if it makes you feel better
Well, I'd prefer if you just said what's on your mind and gave us your thoughts straight.
I did but you didn’t like that

I think he's town, but he's high on the PoE list is contradicting.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:01 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:58 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~
I wouldn't say it holds as much weight as Odd's, but it took him out of my PoE.
Yeah, this is reasonable. I don’t think KZA is a good chop for today at least. I’ll have to review his interactions with Marmot, I skipped over him earlier.

I think consensus is that they're most likely not teammates, it's always good to have another set of eyes look over it though.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:02 am**

Villa tiers may be considered:
VVV top town, over 95%, rescinding probably in lylo or at an obvious slip
VV town, around 75% reevaluating but confident enough to consider them green
V townish, between 55-75% confidence, in constant check and reevaluation

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