Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 5]
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:27 pm
I prefer lynching Nanook over JJJ in case that isn't clear.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Like I suspect players 1, 2, 3 and 4. I don’t think players 1, 2 and 3 are teamed. So in a world where 3 and 4 are mafia...the third wolf is...maybe player 5.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:00 pmI've never been sure what world building means (sounds like maybe a gamer term) but I'll walk through what I'm thinking about people after dinner.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:55 pmAll the reads. All the world building. Who do you view as clear of being on each mafia?juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:51 pmWhat do you need Jack? I will eat dinner first but tell me what you are looking for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:30 pm I need more from everyone who wasn’t on this thread yesterday.
Aside from Colin, you are townreading the entire Sig wagon?juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:37 pm I think the only person I can totally and completely clear is @Dom . He suspected both Mac and sig and I can't read that blue color on the vote pictures but I think he voted Mac and then sig. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I have some other people I think are civ but it's hard to totally clear anyone of being bad without info.
In my "I think they are town but can't completely clear them" would be @JaggedJimmyJay, @Sloonei, @Jackofhearts2005. Jay and Sloonei have done a lot of analysis work and Jay in particular I find myself shaking my head "yes" at a lot of his posts (I wanted to try and pull some out tonight.) Jackofhearts because his turnaround on nutella had good progression and he's been a thread driver and I didn't notice bad Jack doing that in Inception. All three of these have just voted on one side of the aisle which is why I don't feel like I can clear them.
Then there are people that I lean town on for something they've done recently and that would be @speedchuck and @Michelle.
I pointed out earlier that speed made that offhand comment in our dream thread saying "why are the lynching sig - I wish I could be there" (paraphrase). It was a throw away comment but I when I back here and saw sprityo's flip it was the first thing I thought about. It seemed genuine in response to Saito's info. He voted Mac Day 2 and sig Day 3.
Michelle really showed her feisty, poking, prodding civ behavior when we were at the dream level, even if it was aimed at me. Prior to that I had suspicions about her. I hope to see more of that Michelle now that we're back in the big thread to confirm my feeling about her. She voted for Turnip Day 2 and Mac Day 3 so chances are if she's bad she's on the Radish-sig-sabie team.
I'm going to go ahead and post this even though it doesn't talk about everyone because I'm so slow. I have a number of people in my "still sorting" pile.
Then the Monitor, who I think is alive, can go ballistic.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:38 pmSuppose the Harbinger is mafia.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pmIf this happens I recommend nutella.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.
If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.![]()
I doubt this is true.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:08 pm Dizzy is the monitor, known by a mafia member harbinger and killed and janitored day 2 for precisely that purpose
Knowing this website, I think that's entirely believable -- one or even zero on sig. I would bet considerable bucks that at least one Mac teammate voted FOR Mac, and perhaps more than that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:43 pm Aside from Colin, you are townreading the entire Sig wagon?
You think when Sig was damn near buried and a metric fuckton of players collectively shrugged at the Mac case and voted Sig, that no wolves were among those players except maybe Colin?
Cause Mac had 3 teammates. I think there was more than one wolf who voted Sig. Is have an easier time believing three wolves on that wagon than one.
remind me who you voted forJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:50 pmKnowing this website, I think that's entirely believable -- one or even zero on sig. I would bet considerable bucks that at least one Mac teammate voted FOR Mac, and perhaps more than that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:43 pm Aside from Colin, you are townreading the entire Sig wagon?
You think when Sig was damn near buried and a metric fuckton of players collectively shrugged at the Mac case and voted Sig, that no wolves were among those players except maybe Colin?
Cause Mac had 3 teammates. I think there was more than one wolf who voted Sig. Is have an easier time believing three wolves on that wagon than one.
This is The Syndicate.
I voted sig Day 3.Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:52 pmremind me who you voted forJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:50 pmKnowing this website, I think that's entirely believable -- one or even zero on sig. I would bet considerable bucks that at least one Mac teammate voted FOR Mac, and perhaps more than that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:43 pm Aside from Colin, you are townreading the entire Sig wagon?
You think when Sig was damn near buried and a metric fuckton of players collectively shrugged at the Mac case and voted Sig, that no wolves were among those players except maybe Colin?
Cause Mac had 3 teammates. I think there was more than one wolf who voted Sig. Is have an easier time believing three wolves on that wagon than one.
This is The Syndicate.
Insanity.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:53 pm Day 3 sig wagon relative to Mac team connection:
ColinIsCool - could be
S~V~S - confirmed nope
Sloonei - doubt it
Dom - strongly doubt it
speedchuck - could be
nutella - confirmed nope
JJJ - confirmed nope![]()
juliets - strongly doubt it
Experience.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:54 pmInsanity.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:53 pm Day 3 sig wagon relative to Mac team connection:
ColinIsCool - could be
S~V~S - confirmed nope
Sloonei - doubt it
Dom - strongly doubt it
speedchuck - could be
nutella - confirmed nope
JJJ - confirmed nope![]()
juliets - strongly doubt it
I’m best wolf and I’d always have voted Sig exactly like you and Juliets did. Unless I had distanced a bunch from Mac, in which case, I’d do it like Sloonei did.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:55 pmExperience.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:54 pmInsanity.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:53 pm Day 3 sig wagon relative to Mac team connection:
ColinIsCool - could be
S~V~S - confirmed nope
Sloonei - doubt it
Dom - strongly doubt it
speedchuck - could be
nutella - confirmed nope
JJJ - confirmed nope![]()
juliets - strongly doubt it
I don't care what you think you'd do. You're not on that list. You're not those people. You're irrelevant.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:56 pm I’m best wolf and I’d always have voted Sig exactly like you and Juliets did. Unless I had distanced a bunch from Mac, in which case, I’d do it like Sloonei did.
I’m gonna split you open and take all the grannies out of you.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:57 pmI don't care what you think you'd do. You're not on that list. You're not those people. You're irrelevant.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:56 pm I’m best wolf and I’d always have voted Sig exactly like you and Juliets did. Unless I had distanced a bunch from Mac, in which case, I’d do it like Sloonei did.
You're doing that thing you do where everything has to be optimal and make sense to youJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:03 pm I know bussing is a thing. Sig’s wagon is just the fucking easier juiciest excuse to not bus I have ever seen and sooo many players were “simply uninterested” in the Mac case.
Working out for me so far.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:04 pmYou're doing that thing you do where everything has to be optimal and make sense to youJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:03 pm I know bussing is a thing. Sig’s wagon is just the fucking easier juiciest excuse to not bus I have ever seen and sooo many players were “simply uninterested” in the Mac case.
Well yeah but then this jagged wolf came round and tried to eat him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:03 pm Instead of A) helping lynch Mac or B) voting on the counterwagon from which all these accusations are sure to spring, Turnip Head placed a meaningless vote for Jack on Day 3.
Oh neat- I tried to make the same argument in dreamland but it didn’t take. But hey, I’m just a pleb, unlike you, so batter up, mate.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:01 pmI’m not saying Juliets isn’t town.
I’m saying Jay, Sloonei and Juliets are not all town.
Pay attention.![]()
That came to mind?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.
I'm browsing the thread again and this is a good post.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:16 pm Nanook doesn't meaningfully engage with sig until Night 2:
While this gets a playful tongue face, it's worth remembering that Nanook had a different role Day 1.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:39 amUh listening to you D1 wouldve TKed me, so....passsig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:08 amYea maybe listen to sigs wild theories next time and we could've lynched scum day 1.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am A question: if we all know what a derp looks like, and we all could reasonably emulate it, why don’t you see it more often? I can’t remember the last time scum town cleated themself with something like that.
The only possible example in this game is Sig going after Radish for saying baddie. Sig might have been right. Ironically, because he might have been right, I need to re-examine Sig.![]()
These are two independent trains of thought regardless.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:40 pm To be clear I don’t super care about sig’s theory, but nothing between yesterday and today made me think “oh mac isn’t mafia”
I don't get this. "To be clear" (again, because Nanook must be aware that in some respect he isn't being clear), Mac should die but not "today." Which team were you prioritizing and why? And why were prioritizing teams?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:46 pm To be clear I support a Mac TK and still think he’s >rand scum
Just don’t think he’s scum on the team I’m prioritizing today
SVS and tranq are also votes I’m happy with. Maybe even Dom, though he seems kinda different than what I remember from being his teammate.
And is that "player salad" I detect?"Mac is bad, but Mac isn't on the team I want to lynch, but maybe lynch Dom."
Folks, this is mafia.
This is making excuses for sig instead of making sig explain himself.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:09 am I mean I guess if I squint I can see sig making a bad “slip” read to get pushback (thus discouraging cases against radish) then tying me and radish together and pushing me over him based on me defending him...
Idk I guess I could see it as a stretch but I would TK so many people over him today
"There are at minimum 4 better choices (shrug)" (but I'm not going to name any of them).NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:14 am Uh sig isn’t gonna die today, lol. There are at minimum 4 better choices
And I’m saying that as someone who had him as my second blow up choice lol
++++
I'm stopping there.
Lynch Nanook.
Ok, why does multiball matter when you suspect everyone with a vote? In the purest sense, it’s still an either-or, black-white, good-bad situation if you are a civvie. This feels like it’s for show.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:22 pm I scumread everyone with a vote right now. Ahhhhhh multiball.
uhh.... you?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.
i'm bored with this take.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:22 pm I scumread everyone with a vote right now. Ahhhhhh multiball.
Outside of Day 4, I am still trying to tread water. I’ve been trying to catch up, but today of all days has made that difficult. I feel like the colorized vote post that I made and my reflections on our Day 4 mini-thread were overlooked at best because my name isn’t Jay, Sloonei, Jack, Ted, or Nanook.
I may have missed it. You weren't in my thread, were you? Has it been posted in here?G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:05 pmOutside of Day 4, I am still trying to tread water. I’ve been trying to catch up, but today of all days has made that difficult. I feel like the colorized vote post that I made and my reflections on our Day 4 mini-thread were overlooked at best because my name isn’t Jay, Sloonei, Jack, Ted, or Nanook.