U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Game Over

[dunya]

After an ISO of LC (sorry I'm not quoting but nobody twas the quotes last time anyway):

Pushes for kites n1 "kill me" request, could be kites is a teammate who gets a power from being killed, could be an attempt to not get a teammate killed by directing ISIS towards a civ.

Makes a case on Kyle, votes him, etc. Good look for Kyle.

Yes, it could be. There was some conjecture (or did Kites say it?) that Kites was a stump but would Mac really put two stumps in the game? dunya didn't suspect Kites though, she was reading him as good which hold some water for me because she has great insights.

And some terrible ones. Like me.

She also thought Luna was al-Pieda.

She's good but let's not base our whole remaining game off her, yeah?

you're rude!

[dunya]

go get em guys

rip mom

at least we're reunited, my favorite boob head.

[juliets]

After an ISO of LC (sorry I'm not quoting but nobody twas the quotes last time anyway):

Pushes for kites n1 "kill me" request, could be kites is a teammate who gets a power from being killed, could be an attempt to not get a teammate killed by directing ISIS towards a civ.

Makes a case on Kyle, votes him, etc. Good look for Kyle.

Yes, it could be. There was some conjecture (or did Kites say it?) that Kites was a stump but would Mac really put two stumps in the game? dunya didn't suspect Kites though, she was reading him as good which hold some water for me because she has great insights.

And some terrible ones. Like me.

She also thought Luna was al-Pieda.

She's good but let's not base our whole remaining game off her, yeah?

You probably didn't see that I already addressed this. Her opinion holds some sway with me but I'm aware she was wrong about some people. I don't see the Luna thing as being exactly wrong though - at least she had her pegged as mafia.

[juliets]

Colin, (I think it was you) you were right about c-bob arguing about the lynch options on night 1. I very much like what he was saying, very towny. I am going to vote Turnip Head for the time being.

[colonialbob]

intercourse as in discussion, not fucking

It could've been both

[juliets]

Also seriously doubt c-bob is ISIS because he was targeted with that binary crap by Scotty. I know they could have done that to a teammate but he was the first and I doubt that happened.

[juliets]

c-bob, I apologize if this is in a part of your iso I haven't gotten to but can you tell me if you are reading Kyle as civ?

[juliets]

Well, never mind c-bob I just got to the post where you civ read Kyle. So who do you think our baddies are?

[juliets]

If Kyle and c-bob are both good then that leaves INH, Sloonei (but is his power really a mafia power?), TH, Kites, motel room. Soooooo many inactive, could they all really be mafia? Gah!

[juliets]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] will you tell us who the people were in the Chatzy of Lost Souls? If not now when the game is over?

[juliets]

These are for sig:

sig, this is the song I was singing in the chatzy by the Beatles. The person singing lead is John Lennon:



My favorite Beatles song, George Harrison singing:



Another band you should know about from a musical history standpoint is the Rolling Stones. This is my favorite song by them, Mick Jagger singing:



Ok, your music lesson is complete for today

[juliets]

Hmm did those links come out?

[colonialbob]

Hmm Kyle was voted by LC, Eloh, and Scotty d2.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[colonialbob]

I slso find Sloonei and turbup sus for tying up nutella with Eloh (that was when dunya was still trying to get Absolute Unit lynched so she would've wanted the double)

[colonialbob]

Well, never mind c-bob I just got to the post where you civ read Kyle. So who do you think our baddies are?

Not me, Colin, Kyle (although the poll thing makes me way more sus of Kyle).

You and Sig are low priority if you're bad because you're not Pieda compatible and there's presumably only a single ISIS left.

Most of my Sloonei sus was ISIS teammates, so same thing there.

Turbo-pup, inh, kites/motel I guess?

[colonialbob]

Oh DDL is here too, I also doubt he's AP because his power wouldn't really make sense

[juliets]

Oh DDL is here too, I also doubt he's AP because his power wouldn't really make sense

Yeah I think he's legit 3P.

[colonialbob]

Oh DDL is here too, I also doubt he's AP because his power wouldn't really make sense

Yeah I think he's legit 3P.

Samsies

[colonialbob]

Samesies*

[juliets]

I slso find Sloonei and turbup sus for tying up nutella with Eloh (that was when dunya was still trying to get Absolute Unit lynched so she would've wanted the double)

I'm not sure I understand the part about dunya trying to get Absolute Unit lynched?

[juliets]

I slso find Sloonei and turbup sus for tying up nutella with Eloh (that was when dunya was still trying to get Absolute Unit lynched so she would've wanted the double)

I'm not sure I understand the part about dunya trying to get Absolute Unit lynched?

I mean I understand the part about her maybe wanting them lynched but nutella wasn't an Absolute Unit.

[colonialbob]

I slso find Sloonei and turbup sus for tying up nutella with Eloh (that was when dunya was still trying to get Absolute Unit lynched so she would've wanted the double)

I'm not sure I understand the part about dunya trying to get Absolute Unit lynched?

It's kind of an aside, but I was suspicious of people who tied nutella with Eloh because Mac said ties would be double lynches iirc. Dunya fits that profile because at the time she wasn't town, she was 3P trying to get 2 other specific players lynched.

[colonialbob]

Lunalee has died.

She was

Spoiler: show

Hurricane Katrina, ISIS Cream. At one point in the game you may hit the thread. This can occur day or night. The amount of people who die will be equal to the number of days that have passed. In the event that you choose to do this when there are fewer players remaining than days that have passed one player will be randomly left alive and their faction will win the game.

Dunya has died.

She was

Spoiler: show

Lizzy the Cat, Absolute Unit. You're actually self aligned and you win the game if you get the other two members of the Absolute Units lynched. If one gets night killed however you will revert back to a vanilla civilian.

Tis day 6.

[mention]juliets[/mention] Yes she was

[colonialbob]

Haha whoops sorry you said nutella not dunya

[colonialbob]

Yeah I'm not convinced dunya knew who the other two AU players were, so she would've wanted as many lynches as possible

[juliets]

Lunalee has died.

She was

Spoiler: show

Hurricane Katrina, ISIS Cream. At one point in the game you may hit the thread. This can occur day or night. The amount of people who die will be equal to the number of days that have passed. In the event that you choose to do this when there are fewer players remaining than days that have passed one player will be randomly left alive and their faction will win the game.

Dunya has died.

She was

Spoiler: show

Lizzy the Cat, Absolute Unit. You're actually self aligned and you win the game if you get the other two members of the Absolute Units lynched. If one gets night killed however you will revert back to a vanilla civilian.

Tis day 6.

@juliets Yes she was

Yes dunya was Absolute Unit but not nutella or Elo so I'm not following why she would want both of them lynched.

[juliets]

Yeah I'm not convinced dunya knew who the other two AU players were, so she would've wanted as many lynches as possible

OOOOOHHHHHH i see.

[Turnip Head]

Poor turbup tbh. Just wanted to joke around with his friends and maybe get invited to hangout in a chatzy or something. All town all heart, and I'll go down with my head held high

[colonialbob]

Poor turbup tbh. Just wanted to joke around with his friends and maybe get invited to hangout in a chatzy or something. All town all heart, and I'll go down with my head held high

Who's bad then

[Turnip Head]

Poor turbup tbh. Just wanted to joke around with his friends and maybe get invited to hangout in a chatzy or something. All town all heart, and I'll go down with my head held high

Who's bad then

I am. I am bad at mafia.

[ColinIsCool]

ColinIsCool dig:

I am town.

TOWN

[juliets]

Kites was here but didn't post anything. Hmmm.

[ColinIsCool]

Cbob dig:

Cbob spent almost an entire full page of his ISO talking about what does and does not constitute a sandwich. There's also a lot of binary I'm not translating.

He said I was getting his hackles up early on for saying something flippant stuff about Golden and dunya being scum, and wanted to vote for me D1, but later says he has consistently read me as civ. Cbob, why am I a civ in your eyes?

"*continues not voting Eloh or Scotty*". He actually interacts with Scotty quite a bit in a semi-positive way which points me toward them not being teammates. Later on though he doesn't hesitate at all to throw shade their way and it feels organic.

The best look or Cbob, I maintain, are his efforts toward arguing Golden's infamous nightpoll. I think if we look at who was vocal in that debate, they've all flipped town so far. Likewise, the scum who have flipped were all happy to just offer token reasons, a post here and there but not much strong advocacy of any stance. Cbob was on a mission to do what he felt would be best for town in that argument, whereas I think scum would just gameplan accordingly to whatever option they could get. But he also has a lot of solid contributions (look at the teammate compatibles for example)

Gonna go with TOWN here.

[ColinIsCool]

Dragon D. Luffy dig:

I thought DDL looked scummy as hell D1, but everything changed when he claimed to be the unvanisher. I think it's widely accepted that he has backed that claim up, so I am not going to spend a lot of time on this. But there is one post I want to highlight:

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.

As a sidenote, I think we also must ask ourselves why the scum teams have kept DDL alive unless they were counting on his power to be useful for them in some way, but maybe I don't understand the nuances of his survivor role.

DDL gets a IF YOU FUCK US OVER I'LL CUT YOU

[juliets]

Poor turbup tbh. Just wanted to joke around with his friends and maybe get invited to hangout in a chatzy or something. All town all heart, and I'll go down with my head held high

Who's bad then

Seriously though Turnip, if you are not bad who is in your opinion?

[sig]

Dragon D. Luffy dig:

I thought DDL looked scummy as hell D1, but everything changed when he claimed to be the unvanisher. I think it's widely accepted that he has backed that claim up, so I am not going to spend a lot of time on this. But there is one post I want to highlight:

And yeah I could help baddies on lylo. I have no intention of doing that before lylo though. You feel free to decide if I'm worth lynching or not. Normally survivors don't get lynched if they claim early because they are considerably less valuable lynches than mafia. Plus I'm giving people free candy.

As a sidenote, I think we also must ask ourselves why the scum teams have kept DDL alive unless they were counting on his power to be useful for them in some way, but maybe I don't understand the nuances of his survivor role.

DDL gets a IF YOU FUCK US OVER I'LL CUT YOU

Yeah as mafia I'd have killed him even if he doesn't count towards civs numbers since he was recycling us into the game, passing civ info into the thread, and establishing a BTSC network. However, up until this point he's been pro town would be a waste of a lynch.

I agree with your read on bob, but I can't help but think someone who got abducted had to be bad. However, I know it wasn't someone in Lost Souls and both Kyle/bob are looking good.

[ColinIsCool]

INH dig:

INH has 24 posts in this thread. He is busy hosting The Genius, so I can see that as NAI. There's also some fantastic WIFOM in there alluding to his scum performance in Ass Class where he apparently didn't show up until the very end and rode to victory.

He has a very hedgey post on Eloh. And he says this, which is fair:

@insertnamehere you realize this is exactlywhat you did in Ass Class where you were bad - disappeared for the whole game then came in at the end. Why should we believe you are civ?

Because inactivity isn't alignment indicative. Or at least it isn't for me.

But when literally all I know secondhand about this guy's scum meta is that he won a game by looking exactly like he does in here, it's hard not to let that suspicion linger. I feel for INH if he is town and just struggling to keep up, but would he be so bold to try the same exact maneuver in two consecutive games as a scum? I don't know. I need other people to answer that for me, who have experience with his scumgame.

For now, INH is a POTENTIAL LYNCH.

[ColinIsCool]

I agree with your read on bob, but I can't help but think someone who got abducted had to be bad. However, I know it wasn't someone in Lost Souls and both Kyle/bob are looking good.

How do you know it's not someone in Lost Souls?

[sig]

If bob is mafia he'd be on Alpiedia imo not ISIS. However, even in a bastard game I can't believe each scum team has at least 5 people meaning in theory the baddies could be inactives.

linki: Seeing how it's just me and juliet and we spent so many phases together I believe she's a civ. Unless of course she got turned mafia when she escaped. Mainly since she was pushing LC lynch way before me in our chat which I don't see why a teammate would do.

[Epignosis]

Time to step up the plate.

[sig]

I like where we're at right now.

[mention]Charlie Blackmon[/mention] If you have time could you ISO Bob, Kyle, TH, and colin in that order.

Also since I'm lazy what was Kyle's last scum game? I seem to recall him fooling everyone

[sig]

oh and if DDL is mafia, he'd be ISIS so not a priority.

[sig]

I'm not seeing colin's gameplay to be the same as it was in Greece, though granted he died pretty early in that game. Looks good for him.

[ColinIsCool]

Juliets dig:

Juliets just feels earnest as heck. If she has anything pointing to her as scum, it's actually going to be her lack of interactions with any of the confirmed scum we have: she talks to Eloh and about Eloh a fair amount before being vanished, but aside from that, there is almost nothing with anybody else until she gets on Long Con later. In a game this size, that's excusable. She has done a good job of guiding the discussion, doing ISOs and backreads, etc., so I feel very comfortable putting her here for now.

TOWN

[ColinIsCool]

I'm not seeing colin's gameplay to be the same as it was in Greece, though granted he died pretty early in that game. Looks good for him.

Check me out in Easter Mafia right now if you want, I'm still alive but confirmed scum.

[sig]

I'm not seeing colin's gameplay to be the same as it was in Greece, though granted he died pretty early in that game. Looks good for him.

Check me out in Easter Mafia right now if you want, I'm still alive but confirmed scum.

Will do,

If I had to put out a tin foil theory I'd say Juliet got recruited on her way out and is teammates with Colin, but that's super tinfoilish and I wouldn't want to follow that logic until we lynch the scummier people.

[Turnip Head]

Poor turbup tbh. Just wanted to joke around with his friends and maybe get invited to hangout in a chatzy or something. All town all heart, and I'll go down with my head held high

Who's bad then

Seriously though Turnip, if you are not bad who is in your opinion?

Nobody... I think Mac is accidentally keeping the game running. I already feel like a winner.

But to be honest juliets... To be honest...
I feel good enough about everyone here except for the 3 inactives, so I'd lynch INH, motel room, and Kites in that order.

[ColinIsCool]

Kites dig:

Kites has 25 posts, the majority of which find him claiming to be an unactivated stump. I've touched on the likelihood of that already, but the more I think about it, I think it's probably 30% there's 2 stumps and 70% there's not.

Neutral reads on Lilefer and Luna. Then there's joke to Scotty.

There is almost nothing here, but the claim about being a stump seems more unlikely as I consider it. Does anybody have greater insight on Kites' usual playstyle and how it may differ here (esp. if alignment-based)?

Kites is a POTENTIAL LYNCH.

[ColinIsCool]

I'm not seeing colin's gameplay to be the same as it was in Greece, though granted he died pretty early in that game. Looks good for him.

Check me out in Easter Mafia right now if you want, I'm still alive but confirmed scum.

Will do,

If I had to put out a tin foil theory I'd say Juliet got recruited on her way out and is teammates with Colin, but that's super tinfoilish and I wouldn't want to follow that logic until we lynch the scummier people.

What makes you think there are recruitments?

[sig]

MacDougall is drunk so forgive if something goes wrong.

Long Con has been lynched.

He was the Endless Void, Al-Pieda. The Chatzy of Lost Souls has been destroyed.

The Endless Void targets a player each night. That player will be sent to the Chatzy of Lost Souls.

While residing in the Chatzy of Lost Souls players are confined to the Chatzy of Lost Souls completely. They are unable to participate in thread activities at all. No voting or posting. Their ability to cast night actions is limited to the confines of the other members of the Chatzy of Lost Souls. They will be removed from any other BTSC chats that they are in for the duration of their time in the Chatzy of Lost Souls.

At night there is a random chance that a person confined to the Chatzy of Lost Souls finds a way to escape. This starts at 5% and goes up by 5% each phase that they reside there.

If that player escapes there is a random event. In the event the player is a civilian there is a ⅓ chance they will die upon escape, a ⅓ chance they will fall in love with the Abyss and have their win con switched to the same win con as The Endless Void and a ⅓ chance they will escape freely.

In the event the player is Independent or Mafia aligned upon their escape there is a ⅔ chance they escape unimpacted. There is a ⅓ chance they kill the Endless Void on their way out, thus liberating the remaining participants there.

The Endless Void is not allowed to enter The Chatzy of Lost Souls and cannot self target.

If The Endless Void is lynched or otherwise killed, the Chatzy of Lost Souls is completely destroyed. Every person inside has a 50/50 chance of survival.

The Endless Void cannot be targeted by any similar roles.

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]