Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I would hound you on this but this makes sense to me from a town povDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:15 pm I care what I look like.
Well, some of the time.
Saying things is more important than preserving myself.
But unsaying stupid things in order to preserve myself isn't bad.
Epi what about forges?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:09 pmYeah, that's the context.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:32 pmI had to wait for nova to die in the other game to point that out.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:16 pmEveryone: you’re scummy!!!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:05 pm Ok so I guess I'm allowed to point out how nova is different than in the other game now?
Cuz he totally is.
DDL: fine I’ll hoard all my thoughts right here and then one day I’ll die
I recommend the DFSW2 Gas Propane ForgeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:21 pmEpi what about forges?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:09 pmYeah, that's the context.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:32 pmI had to wait for nova to die in the other game to point that out.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:16 pmEveryone: you’re scummy!!!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:05 pm Ok so I guess I'm allowed to point out how nova is different than in the other game now?
Cuz he totally is.
DDL: fine I’ll hoard all my thoughts right here and then one day I’ll die
ohLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:33 pmGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:01 pmwhy do you think i was acting like jjj is town?Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:46 pmNo I just thought the whole line of questioning was bad and I dont get why Gemma doesnt like his responses
From the look of it Gemma expects everyone to have JJJ as a townread right off the bat which, like, why should I? Was does Gemma?
Why does Gemma say this and then go back and say “i have no town or scum reads?” After acting like JJJ is town and then not even have a semblance of a read on Epi?
None of it makes sense to me
If you always err on the side of town you’ll never find any scum and constantly be in a state of “well they’re probably town? I’m not sure though” that you have found yourself to be inGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:30 pmohLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:33 pmGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:01 pmwhy do you think i was acting like jjj is town?Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:46 pmNo I just thought the whole line of questioning was bad and I dont get why Gemma doesnt like his responsesMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:35 pmYou expect a less indifferent response?
From the look of it Gemma expects everyone to have JJJ as a townread right off the bat which, like, why should I? Was does Gemma?
Why does Gemma say this and then go back and say “i have no town or scum reads?” After acting like JJJ is town and then not even have a semblance of a read on Epi?
None of it makes sense to me
you assume people are town because it's good form, not because of anything you think about their alignment
also, rand town is 75%, so it's generally just safer to err on the side of that unless you have a lot of evidence to the contrary
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:28 pmI recommend the DFSW2 Gas Propane ForgeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:21 pmEpi what about forges?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:09 pmYeah, that's the context.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:32 pmI had to wait for nova to die in the other game to point that out.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:16 pmEveryone: you’re scummy!!!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:05 pm Ok so I guess I'm allowed to point out how nova is different than in the other game now?
Cuz he totally is.
DDL: fine I’ll hoard all my thoughts right here and then one day I’ll die
-The fuel that is used by the DFSW2 gas propane forge is all contained in a pressurized cylinder. This means that the product does not make a mess at all when it is being used.
-The DFSW2 gas propane forge does not require plenty of effort to be used; anyone with any skill level can use this.
-The DFSW2 gas propane forge does not pollute the air. If you are an environmental conscious person, this is a very good product to pick up on the market especially on places like eBay.
-As far as maintenance for, if you are a traditional blacksmith, you will be happy to know that the DFSW2 gas propane forge does not require plenty of attention.
(Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:42 pmwhatspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:15 pmI recently played a crossover game with another forum, which I won't name directly because it feels like badmouthing. They weren't able to keep up with a game that traveled at slower than normal syndicate speed, and some players were upset about how much posting was done and how it was too stressful.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:12 pmExpoundspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:39 am
After playing a different cross-community game, this is a breath of fresh air. Gemma isn't afraid to take stances or make posts, not in any way.
I'm... a little cooler on Gemma now because of the "What" and "Why" and "How" posts that keep coming, drilling for repetitive info instead of supplying some. But I like their moxy (and the comics).
level 0: reads people using tells that apply regardless of context or playstyleLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:45 pmWhat do you mean by levelGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:28 pmv person is novaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:50 pm Gemma, you've given a decent amount of your attention to nova:
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This carries implied shade given the context of speedchuck's sarcasm.Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:58 amtoo latespeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:57 am For my next performance, I'll suggest lynching a no-show on D1, which is a little more palatable. /s
novas already did that
He's a blob of meta.
I don't object to a lot of questions. Questions are super as long as there is a destination. I don't see a destination. What is your stance on nova?
i thought i was responding to jack, so the "you" is jack. jack is blob of meta because he won't explain his reads other than saying something something meta
i thought it was scummy that nova voted for someone who hadn't really been in thread at all. it's an easy vote and he hadn't said anything about mac, so there was no reasoning behind the vote that i could tell. i could see a world where nova as scum feels like he ought to vote mac there in order to try to make his earlier exchange with him seem more legitimate.
his reads so far are kind of rigid and one-dimensional-ish which is a little concerning but i'm still getting a sense of his process and given the level he seems to be playing at i think things like his mood and approach to me might be more alignment indicative, so he mostly just ends up at null. if you think there is anything he's done that is very alignment indicative for him i would love to hear it
Are these mutually exclusiveGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:49 pmlevel 0: reads people using tells that apply regardless of context or playstyleLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:45 pmWhat do you mean by levelGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:28 pmv person is novaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:50 pm Gemma, you've given a decent amount of your attention to nova:
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This carries implied shade given the context of speedchuck's sarcasm.Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:58 amtoo latespeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:57 am For my next performance, I'll suggest lynching a no-show on D1, which is a little more palatable. /s
novas already did that
He's a blob of meta.
I don't object to a lot of questions. Questions are super as long as there is a destination. I don't see a destination. What is your stance on nova?
i thought i was responding to jack, so the "you" is jack. jack is blob of meta because he won't explain his reads other than saying something something meta
i thought it was scummy that nova voted for someone who hadn't really been in thread at all. it's an easy vote and he hadn't said anything about mac, so there was no reasoning behind the vote that i could tell. i could see a world where nova as scum feels like he ought to vote mac there in order to try to make his earlier exchange with him seem more legitimate.
his reads so far are kind of rigid and one-dimensional-ish which is a little concerning but i'm still getting a sense of his process and given the level he seems to be playing at i think things like his mood and approach to me might be more alignment indicative, so he mostly just ends up at null. if you think there is anything he's done that is very alignment indicative for him i would love to hear it
level 1: introduces context, reads agenda and tone
level 2: focuses solely on context, reads process and mindset
ish
Can you explain this?
so you do have powerwolfing hereMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pmI would say it's a good thing for you because if he is town I trust his judgement more than most and if he is Mafia I don't think he'd be as blatant at drawing connections between you two.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pmIs that a good or a bad thingMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 pm I have never seen Epi treat anyone the way he is treating Luxurious. It's almost like he ... likes you?
That being said I did have a conversation with him recently in which he claimed that he prefers to be on Mafia teams that work in union.
Can you be a little less vague and give some more specifics? Like which newer peoples you find townie and what not and which regular folk are more so not human like?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.
this seems foolproofMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 pmHe plays like a low effort townie when he is town and he plays like a supertown when is Mafia.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pmThis reads that he plays like scum when he’s townMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:51 pmWhen Jack is Mafia he plays more carefully and less fancy free. He has a common town meta as Mafia and is more comfortable and loose when he is town. As town he is also want to give more phoned in efforts when as Mafia he has his game face on 25/8.Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pmis this a serious readMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 pm I am 100% certain Jack is town.
Why?
Because Jack is the easiest player to read in the entire world.
if so are you able to words about it
It isn't weak. It's a vote for the sake of having a vote on the board. Hence the "for now."
Upon slightly rereading, I noticed your posts in rapid succession of each other. I see that generally more as town tell, but it depends on the person doing it and if there is actual content mixed in. I think I'll remove my vote for now and focus my energies elsewhere.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:42 amI'm not following what you're saying. If I reduce your commentary to the highlighted bit: are you then asserting that I have not been serious to this point in the game? Because that's hard to believe.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:36 am I kind of want to vote JJJ. I enjoy playing with him, and it has been awhile since we last played. But I also feel like I'm not quite yet seeing the Jay that I've seen before in 2 other games I played with him. Is that enough to go by? I don't know. Have I only seen his town game? I think so. Then again he might play different with a power role in hand, so maybe that's why he appears different. Or he could be generally busy, but I'm not suppose to make excuses for him. I'm just suppose to read what the thread gives me. Or maybe some games does Jay not get serious super early on? In my mind, it would be hard to maintain a talkative or inquisitive facade like every single game.
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[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine Right now, you are the most different to me. I suggest doing something to change my mind or find someone scummier. I hope to see some effort when i get back. (aka I wanted to play with you more, but I can't be your buddy if you are scum)
Explain all of the lyrics? I could, since I wrote them, but I'm afraid I don't have the time right now. I encourage you to listen and arrive at your own interpretations.
I must have missed the song. *feels left out*Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:08 pmExplain all of the lyrics? I could, since I wrote them, but I'm afraid I don't have the time right now. I encourage you to listen and arrive at your own interpretations.
people using meta doesn't necessarily worsen my read on them, i just don't find meta usefulLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:18 pmDoes knowing the fact he uses meta make this a worse look for you since you admitted that you dont like it?Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:15 pmhe's angling on ddl and trying to use something ddl did in a past game as reason for why he is mafia in this game. it's basically just shadeLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 pmWhat about this doesnt look like a real scum read to you gemmaGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:32 amread this post and let me know if there is any actual reasoning for a scumread in itnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:19 am Talk to me about Jack. What do you see in his attitude?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:56 pmOof. Remember all the times DDL didn't do shit like this?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm[VOTE: Speedchuck] auberginespeedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
And remember the time he did shit like this to me when he was scum in Addams Family?
Bad reason to vote Speedchuck. Welcome to my scumreads.
How about his change of stance now?
I wish Dizzy were here. He would buddy some people and be super kawai for words. (and cat pictures)
I didn't really tack on. I was already having thoughts in that direction, and highly doubt my past experience/reasoning overlapped with his reason for saying that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:56 am
I'm bugged that Owner tacked on with nova here and then wrote this big vague essay about me being "different", whatever that means.
This feels a bit too scripted. Not sure, if this was planned for some motive or what, but generally talking or getting the conversation going is a good thing, unless there's some hidden/scum motive involved..hmmspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:06 am So for everyone who asks, I was (as assumed by some) trolling for reactions. I'll be moving my vote, but hey, started some discussion.
Do you actually suspect MP?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:06 pmIt isn't weak. It's a vote for the sake of having a vote on the board. Hence the "for now."
Funny how you imply here that I couldn't actually suspect MP.
We only bus.Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 pmso you do have powerwolfing hereMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pmI would say it's a good thing for you because if he is town I trust his judgement more than most and if he is Mafia I don't think he'd be as blatant at drawing connections between you two.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pmIs that a good or a bad thingMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 pm I have never seen Epi treat anyone the way he is treating Luxurious. It's almost like he ... likes you?
That being said I did have a conversation with him recently in which he claimed that he prefers to be on Mafia teams that work in union.
Choose your own adventure defense is just as bad as choose your own adventure offense.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:21 pmDo you actually suspect MP?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:06 pmIt isn't weak. It's a vote for the sake of having a vote on the board. Hence the "for now."
Funny how you imply here that I couldn't actually suspect MP.
do you have any other reads? Or are your reads similar to his?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:22 amJaggedJimmyJayJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:55 am Gemma
Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever
rundontwalk
speedchuck
Ultra
JessieKruger
Tsaiah
Dragomir
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Luxurious
M Plus 7
MacDougall
Owner
Soneji
Watch out or Jack will get you.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:09 pm *is temporary voting no lynch*
I still want blood this day phase (so I'll be voting for someone else) so that I'll know if my reads are on the right track or if I need to reassess things.
I have reads somewhere.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:24 pmdo you have any other reads? Or are your reads similar to his?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:22 amJaggedJimmyJayJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:55 am Gemma
Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever
rundontwalk
speedchuck
Ultra
JessieKruger
Tsaiah
Dragomir
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Luxurious
M Plus 7
MacDougall
Owner
Soneji
Yeah, this pace is nice. MU is marathon. Having time to breathe in a game definitely helps out with work life balance and well being stuff.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:39 am
After playing a different cross-community game, this is a breath of fresh air. Gemma isn't afraid to take stances or make posts, not in any way.
Does he usually make sense? Or what in particular doesn't make sense to you?
Really now?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:27 pmWatch out or Jack will get you.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:09 pm *is temporary voting no lynch*
I still want blood this day phase (so I'll be voting for someone else) so that I'll know if my reads are on the right track or if I need to reassess things.
No, it's clearly not meant to be taken seriously in the context of Mafia.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:12 pmI must have missed the song. *feels left out*Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:08 pmExplain all of the lyrics? I could, since I wrote them, but I'm afraid I don't have the time right now. I encourage you to listen and arrive at your own interpretations.
You have to ask nutella about spicy takes. I only have mild takes.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:12 pm On another tangent, do you currently have any spicy reads to talk about or address?
if you scumread me you shouldn't obv
not entirelyLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:51 pmAre these mutually exclusiveGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:49 pmlevel 0: reads people using tells that apply regardless of context or playstyleLuxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:45 pmWhat do you mean by levelGemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:28 pmv person is novaJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:50 pm Gemma, you've given a decent amount of your attention to nova:
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This carries implied shade given the context of speedchuck's sarcasm.Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:58 amtoo latespeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:57 am For my next performance, I'll suggest lynching a no-show on D1, which is a little more palatable. /s
novas already did that
He's a blob of meta.
I don't object to a lot of questions. Questions are super as long as there is a destination. I don't see a destination. What is your stance on nova?
i thought i was responding to jack, so the "you" is jack. jack is blob of meta because he won't explain his reads other than saying something something meta
i thought it was scummy that nova voted for someone who hadn't really been in thread at all. it's an easy vote and he hadn't said anything about mac, so there was no reasoning behind the vote that i could tell. i could see a world where nova as scum feels like he ought to vote mac there in order to try to make his earlier exchange with him seem more legitimate.
his reads so far are kind of rigid and one-dimensional-ish which is a little concerning but i'm still getting a sense of his process and given the level he seems to be playing at i think things like his mood and approach to me might be more alignment indicative, so he mostly just ends up at null. if you think there is anything he's done that is very alignment indicative for him i would love to hear it
level 1: introduces context, reads agenda and tone
level 2: focuses solely on context, reads process and mindset
ish
*kidding* I feel like in hindsight I could have kept a more flexible scum/town meta game if hadn't rose to the occasion or became such a try hard some games. I don't why I'm talking here. This probably not all that related to what you are saying here...derp.JJJ often gets a pass in my experience for his voluminous content. I give him no such pass.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:22 pmIs that everyone or just yourself? I'm asking for a friend. *is curious* * (not related) wants to hear from M Plus 7*
Sometimes, I pick up on jokes. Other times, I feel like it can go either way.
A mild take is better than nothing. But congrats on your foreign language reading skill. It sounds like you are at least managing to read so that's probably at least Level 2 or something.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:32 pmYou have to ask nutella about spicy takes. I only have mild takes.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:12 pm On another tangent, do you currently have any spicy reads to talk about or address?
I presently have two people in the good pile. That's all I've got for now.
I'm reading a foreign language with all these new faces coming in here with their chainsaws and shades and privileges and gaslighting and powerwolfs.
I sometimes feel like I'm in reading the lyrics of a Yes album, come to think of it.
I have moved my vote (and answered this question), so I'll assume you get to thatOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:19 pmThis feels a bit too scripted. Not sure, if this was planned for some motive or what, but generally talking or getting the conversation going is a good thing, unless there's some hidden/scum motive involved..hmmspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:06 am So for everyone who asks, I was (as assumed by some) trolling for reactions. I'll be moving my vote, but hey, started some discussion.
How soon do you think you'll be moving your vote? / Who are your currently suspicious of?
Wait a minute. I just used my privilege and Googled this term.Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 pmso you do have powerwolfing hereMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pmI would say it's a good thing for you because if he is town I trust his judgement more than most and if he is Mafia I don't think he'd be as blatant at drawing connections between you two.Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pmIs that a good or a bad thingMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 pm I have never seen Epi treat anyone the way he is treating Luxurious. It's almost like he ... likes you?
That being said I did have a conversation with him recently in which he claimed that he prefers to be on Mafia teams that work in union.
Hey JJJ, I didn't know that you got to pass go? Will you be sharing the $200?Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:39 pmJJJ often gets a pass in my experience for his voluminous content. I give him no such pass.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:22 pmIs that everyone or just yourself? I'm asking for a friend. *is curious* * (not related) wants to hear from M Plus 7*
That said, I believe lynching him Day 1 is -EV in the long term, and thus will not be voting for him today.
I'm adding Owner to the good list.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 pmCan you be a little less vague and give some more specifics? Like which newer peoples you find townie and what not and which regular folk are more so not human like?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.
