Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:21 pm
Like i said, mac wanted to hop to it so i'll eat my hat before i let him take a stroll over my entire torso
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
You didn’t earn the sticker in the first place.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:18 pmnice 180, jackassJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:57 pm The best way to get a read on Long Con is to solidify reads on everyone else. POE is the only way to do anything with inactive players.
I think TSP and sprityo are suspects, but for me it’s more about the absence of civilian indicators than a presence of mafia indicators. Long Con has no civilian indicators either and is accordingly a suspect.
I don’t think he’d even be blank anymore in my rainbow. He’s orange by virtue of numerous others being green. There are only so many slots.
i'll be returning this sticker now
i didnt want your grubby handouts anyways :suspicious:
cause that's how analysis works?Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:18 pmThis post makes me see a Creature and TSP team combo here. The wifom reasoning to conclude that he's town I just really don't like and Idk why but it just feels like something he'd be doing for his buddy instead of a townie. Tbh, nearly all the reasoning TSP has provided against or for something has been wifom related. I wonder why.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:25 pmIf this weren’t Creature it’d seem like scum preemptively making excuses, but this is a legitimate form of complaint I think from our resident complainer and scum wouldn’t be quite so quick on the excuse? Lean town?
A succinct summary of my Mafia life
up to 101 in the duodecimal system a numbering system which would make all life easier for everyone who has advanced past the counting on fingers stage
K I solved the game. If Tony/sprit flip town lynch Jay/creature.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:28 pm Dragomir, Creature seems authentic to me. I am going to fully reassess everyone later though. Something feels off about the “consensus” and I need to explore that.
You said I’m not haphazard or wild.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:59 pmK I solved the game. If Tony/sprit flip town lynch Jay/creature.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:28 pm Dragomir, Creature seems authentic to me. I am going to fully reassess everyone later though. Something feels off about the “consensus” and I need to explore that.![]()
Okay. Here are sprityo’s reads:MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 am If anyone needs a reason to vote for sprityo just read his iso and ask yourself whether his reads are pro town.
Why are these less “pro-town” than some other person’s reads? Mac’s suspicion is default. It’s weak sauce.sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:27 pm -JaggedJimmyJay
-Dragomir
-nutella
-Rej
-Long Con
-MacDougall
-Epignosis
-Jackofhearts2005
-TonyStarkPrime
-Creature
I skimmed through the 8 pages, I split the player list in half since bigger numbers are easier to see, and i'll be working from the bottom pool until further notice as scum candidates and assuming the top half are town. Long Con Pending.
Bc this game is tiny and therefore easyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:02 pmYou said I’m not haphazard or wild.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:59 pmK I solved the game. If Tony/sprit flip town lynch Jay/creature.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:28 pm Dragomir, Creature seems authentic to me. I am going to fully reassess everyone later though. Something feels off about the “consensus” and I need to explore that.![]()
You’re not haphazard or wild. You’re comfortable. I don’t think you should be. Why are you comfortable?
I’m changing my mind on sprityo. Earlier in play I just thought Creature sounded like he didn’t care how he was perceived, and there was no appearance of theater in it.
Nonutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:16 pmBc this game is tiny and therefore easyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:02 pmYou said I’m not haphazard or wild.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:59 pmK I solved the game. If Tony/sprit flip town lynch Jay/creature.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:28 pm Dragomir, Creature seems authentic to me. I am going to fully reassess everyone later though. Something feels off about the “consensus” and I need to explore that.![]()
You’re not haphazard or wild. You’re comfortable. I don’t think you should be. Why are you comfortable?
I didn't say I trust him- I'm putting him in your boat. The H.M.S. BadDay1Lynch. TSP has always struck me as analytical, and that's more useful when there's more to analyze.
He has contributed a lot, and I have been unable to find a moment in that effort that makes me feel good about him. I need to review it all again. Generally though if I cannot feel anything about a highly active player, that’s a red flag.
And yetJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:08 pm Can I say “this player is a civilian!” without experiencing gobs of cognitive dissonance, doubt, or incredulity?
Creature - yeah
Dragomir - yeah
Epignosis - naw
Jack - yeah
Long Con - naw
MacDougall - yeah
nutella - yeah
Rej - yeah
sprityo - naw
Tony - naw
So there’s a POE of four.
Giving Sprityo your 2nd civ medal because I scum read him is game throwing at this pointEpignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:42 pmPicking up where I left off. Glad I waited.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:24 am Creature- No clear opinion.
Dragomir- I stand by my take. Came out throwing like Drew Brees.
Jack- I'm not rereading your 77 posts. Feeling is positive though.
JJJ- Unless he goofs, I don't lynch him Day 1. He hasn't goofed (been a donkey, maybe, but not goofed). I'd have to be convinced to vote there, and I don't see that happening.
Long Con- Got lost in concessions.
MacDougall- I look for a confident "Epi-JJJ-LC is scum got em" post early on. True to fashion, he made one. This time he included the fucking host. I noted it, but left it alone to see what other people would say about it. "Oh golly gee Mac is so town for that." Not in my stadium. Smells like a Minnesota Viking fan's fart. Would lynch.
nutella- I can't have a confident opinion of her or it's a red flag.![]()
Rej- Will have to revisit.
sprityo- Will have to revisit.
TonyStarkPrime- Will have to revisit.
Rej- I suspect Rej.
"Some people called MacDougall good and nobody (apparentlySpoiler: show) called Epignosis good, therefore MacDougall is good." Do I have that right? If Mac is bad, Rej bad too.
sprityo-
I now have him second behind Dragomir for a shiny civilian medal.Spoiler: show![]()
TonyStarkPrime- I read through his 81 posts again (to Jack). I don't find TonyStarkPrime suspicious and would not lynch him Day 1.
I've got a blank up there for Creature, so I need to remedy that.
I don't believe this. The truth is "because I am epi and I like to be a contrarian".Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:51 pmThey are honest, shoot-from-the-hip-I-don't-even-care-if-I-get-lynched-Day-1-like-I-always-do-when-sig-isn't-playing. He suspects me (or at least has me as a "scum candidate") but isn't afraid to vote alongside me. He's relaxed and just going with it. I dig it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:47 pm Epignosis, what do you like most about sprityo’s posts?
Yes because I have two votes on me from at least 1 civilian so there is a chance of mislynch. I've seen this dance before.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:08 pmHe has hardly done anything, and none of it stands out to me. I will think about what you’ve said.
I’m putting Mac back in the naughty pile. There is dissonance there.
I don’t believe that sprityo is the guy civilian Mac is lynching right now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pmYes because I have two votes on me from at least 1 civilian so there is a chance of mislynch. I've seen this dance before.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:08 pmHe has hardly done anything, and none of it stands out to me. I will think about what you’ve said.
I’m putting Mac back in the naughty pile. There is dissonance there.
So is your entire game. It's like you don't care abouy anything but fighting with me.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:15 pmmy reads are anti macMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 am If anyone needs a reason to vote for sprityo just read his iso and ask yourself whether his reads are pro town.
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Why would I not want to lynch sprityo jay?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pmI don’t believe that sprityo is the guy civilian Mac is lynching right now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pmYes because I have two votes on me from at least 1 civilian so there is a chance of mislynch. I've seen this dance before.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:08 pmHe has hardly done anything, and none of it stands out to me. I will think about what you’ve said.
I’m putting Mac back in the naughty pile. There is dissonance there.
WTF are “angles”? You don’t care about that shit.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pmSo is your entire game. It's like you don't care abouy anything but fighting with me.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:15 pmmy reads are anti macMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 am If anyone needs a reason to vote for sprityo just read his iso and ask yourself whether his reads are pro town.
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Meanwhile I have angles playing out with several people and I am the one with votes.
Oh well.
You're the one being a jackasssprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:18 pmnice 180, jackassJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:57 pm The best way to get a read on Long Con is to solidify reads on everyone else. POE is the only way to do anything with inactive players.
I think TSP and sprityo are suspects, but for me it’s more about the absence of civilian indicators than a presence of mafia indicators. Long Con has no civilian indicators either and is accordingly a suspect.
I don’t think he’d even be blank anymore in my rainbow. He’s orange by virtue of numerous others being green. There are only so many slots.
i'll be returning this sticker now
i didnt want your grubby handouts anyways :suspicious:
For someone who hates being labelled you sure love doing it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:46 pmWTF are “angles”? You don’t care about that shit.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pmSo is your entire game. It's like you don't care abouy anything but fighting with me.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:15 pmmy reads are anti macMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 am If anyone needs a reason to vote for sprityo just read his iso and ask yourself whether his reads are pro town.
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Meanwhile I have angles playing out with several people and I am the one with votes.
Oh well.
The last time you actually lynched someone on the basis of their entry post was in 19 BCE.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:46 pmWhy would I not want to lynch sprityo jay?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pmI don’t believe that sprityo is the guy civilian Mac is lynching right now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pmYes because I have two votes on me from at least 1 civilian so there is a chance of mislynch. I've seen this dance before.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:08 pmHe has hardly done anything, and none of it stands out to me. I will think about what you’ve said.
I’m putting Mac back in the naughty pile. There is dissonance there.
1. I hated his intro post.
2. He has done nothing but bait me.
False dichotomy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm When I ask myself “who is the more likely opportunist?” in the continuing Mac/sprityo spat, I don’t answer with “sprityo”.
I am not lynching him. I am voting for him. Subtle difference. I am not a one man wagon formation.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:50 pmThe last time you actually lynched someone on the basis of their entry post was in 19 BCE.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:46 pmWhy would I not want to lynch sprityo jay?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pmI don’t believe that sprityo is the guy civilian Mac is lynching right now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pmYes because I have two votes on me from at least 1 civilian so there is a chance of mislynch. I've seen this dance before.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:08 pmHe has hardly done anything, and none of it stands out to me. I will think about what you’ve said.
I’m putting Mac back in the naughty pile. There is dissonance there.
1. I hated his intro post.
2. He has done nothing but bait me.
What do you expect civilian sprityo to do as Mac shits on him across Day 1?
There is no implication that one of you must be an opportunist. One of you can look more like an opportunist though.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:51 pmFalse dichotomy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm When I ask myself “who is the more likely opportunist?” in the continuing Mac/sprityo spat, I don’t answer with “sprityo”.
I’m warming to Epi. He said he had no interest in lynching me a while ago.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:53 pm Jay has scum read on Epi and Epi scum reads Jay. Yet they are voting together against me.
Interesting af.
There was until you just made that post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:53 pmThere is no implication that one of you must be an opportunist. One of you can look more like an opportunist though.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:51 pmFalse dichotomy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm When I ask myself “who is the more likely opportunist?” in the continuing Mac/sprityo spat, I don’t answer with “sprityo”.
Your suspicions of me are horseshit and I think you know that. You were just my mafia teammate. You know better.
It’s not just your goddamn vote. It’s your stance, your words, and the climate you create. sprityo is the epitome of an easy target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:55 pmThere was until you just made that post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:53 pmThere is no implication that one of you must be an opportunist. One of you can look more like an opportunist though.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:51 pmFalse dichotomy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm When I ask myself “who is the more likely opportunist?” in the continuing Mac/sprityo spat, I don’t answer with “sprityo”.
Also the premise is asinine. How is voting for sprityo opportunistic in the context of this game?
I was your mafia teammate so long ago I don't even remember it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:56 pmYour suspicions of me are horseshit and I think you know that. You were just my mafia teammate. You know better.
Jay: Easy targets don't rand wolfJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:57 pmIt’s not just your goddamn vote. It’s your stance, your words, and the climate you create. sprityo is the epitome of an easy target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:55 pmThere was until you just made that post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:53 pmThere is no implication that one of you must be an opportunist. One of you can look more like an opportunist though.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:51 pmFalse dichotomy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm When I ask myself “who is the more likely opportunist?” in the continuing Mac/sprityo spat, I don’t answer with “sprityo”.
Also the premise is asinine. How is voting for sprityo opportunistic in the context of this game?
I am the same guy I am in every town game. You’ve seen this eight million times. You know better.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:57 pmI was your mafia teammate so long ago I don't even remember it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:56 pmYour suspicions of me are horseshit and I think you know that. You were just my mafia teammate. You know better.
Well this is the specific point isn't it. In that I totally disagree that you are.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:59 pmI am the same guy I am in every town game. You’ve seen this eight million times. You know better.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:57 pmI was your mafia teammate so long ago I don't even remember it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:56 pmYour suspicions of me are horseshit and I think you know that. You were just my mafia teammate. You know better.
Mac in this game:MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:58 pmJay: Easy targets don't rand wolfJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:57 pmIt’s not just your goddamn vote. It’s your stance, your words, and the climate you create. sprityo is the epitome of an easy target.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:55 pmThere was until you just made that post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:53 pmThere is no implication that one of you must be an opportunist. One of you can look more like an opportunist though.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:51 pmFalse dichotomy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm When I ask myself “who is the more likely opportunist?” in the continuing Mac/sprityo spat, I don’t answer with “sprityo”.
Also the premise is asinine. How is voting for sprityo opportunistic in the context of this game?
Then what is the difference?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:00 pmWell this is the specific point isn't it. In that I totally disagree that you are.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:59 pmI am the same guy I am in every town game. You’ve seen this eight million times. You know better.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:57 pmI was your mafia teammate so long ago I don't even remember it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:56 pmYour suspicions of me are horseshit and I think you know that. You were just my mafia teammate. You know better.