The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:04 am**

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:30 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:07 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:43 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 am I dunno what to do to generate discussion but I do think it's necessary here
Not really, let the players to catch up, the post cap is a real blessing for busy players.

If you want to ask anything, just do it, otherwise a silent thread it's not a bad one per se.
A silent thread benefits only wolfs

You voted me without any reasons so maybe now would be a good time to expand on that rather than complaining that nobody is talking.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:33 am**

*Check's thread*

*looks at votes*

yeah, no. Try again.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:41 am**

So... Epi and Mac are both naked voting me, and then LanMisa is unhappy that I was gone for a while.

At least LanMisa had some sort of reason (and they don't know me, so they don't know just how townie my enterance was, so I forgive them for saying it was "meh"), but @Epignosis @MacDougall? Nah. Bad mojo.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:45 am**

I still think Lime is a reasonably likely hit, but I'm guessing y'all don't see it based on the fact that they aren't a runaway wagon even though y'all should just sheep me...

Tempted to lean towards wolf!Mac after reading Uhh... who was it that said stuff about Mac? I don't remember, but I thought they looked good, and Mac saying "no wolves have posted", then naked voting me actually really doesn't resonate well with me at all.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:46 am**

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:22 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:35 am I AM TOWN!

The strongest of all warriors are these two - time & patience
Copycat

You should've received a cease & desist letter days ago.

Fuckin' FedEx

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:23 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:51 am I'm not greeting @MacDougall until he lifts the influenza from my bivouac
Nein.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:28 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:38 am
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:26 am What is your reasoning for that vote?

Does paranoia count, or do I need like DNA evidence or sumfin'?
I love you falcon lol

And it's VALENTINE'S DAY!!!

Day made, pocket denied

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:34 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:01 am just googled succubus.

Lime Coke is not a succubus

I find it hard to believe you had to google succubus, and not just double check your browser history

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:41 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:45 am I still think Lime is a reasonably likely hit, but I'm guessing y'all don't see it based on the fact that they aren't a runaway wagon even though y'all should just sheep me...

Tempted to lean towards wolf!Mac after reading Uhh... who was it that said stuff about Mac? I don't remember, but I thought they looked good, and Mac saying "no wolves have posted", then naked voting me actually really doesn't resonate well with me at all.

Why Lime? I don't recall seeing a reason, tho you've criticized your naked voters for not having reasons

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:44 am**

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:02 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:41 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:45 am I still think Lime is a reasonably likely hit, but I'm guessing y'all don't see it based on the fact that they aren't a runaway wagon even though y'all should just sheep me...

Tempted to lean towards wolf!Mac after reading Uhh... who was it that said stuff about Mac? I don't remember, but I thought they looked good, and Mac saying "no wolves have posted", then naked voting me actually really doesn't resonate well with me at all.

Why Lime? I don't recall seeing a reason, tho you've criticized your naked voters for not having reasons

Yeah, I doubt that I gave one.

So I'm a hypocrite, and so hypocritical that I still think Mac and Epi doing it looks bad for them, while me doing it is at best a NAI wash and at worst actually pretty darn townie for me (at least the WAY I did it, not necessarily the naked vote itself).

Anyways, since you asked, I think scum!Lime is scared of me. Him not engaging with me is most likely out of fear, and then his struggling to post yesterday and deflation coming in on the last page I think is possibly at least partly caused by that. Town!Lime doesn't really like me much, but he at least is willing to interact with me, at least to give him a sense of my alignment.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am**

Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:21 am**

@Lime Coke Is it true, are you a'scared of Seanzie?

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:23 am**

does seanzie bite?

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:26 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

Brad and I were in-thread at the same time, and I spent the better half of two hours trying to see if he would engage with me. He didn't.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:26 am**

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:23 am does seanzie bite?

Only if you ask nicely.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:40 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/
Brad and I were in-thread at the same time, and I spent the better half of two hours trying to see if he would engage with me. He didn't.

I didn't notice it, can you quote a post around that time?

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:47 am**

@Michelle

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:40 pm Something something, Brad, something.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:01 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:47 am @Michelle
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:40 pm Something something, Brad, something.

Brad read above and explain why didn't you interact with Sean?
@Lime Coke

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:16 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:26 am Let's talk about the wagons Abigail

Let's

We need consolidation

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:30 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:07 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:43 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 am I dunno what to do to generate discussion but I do think it's necessary here
Not really, let the players to catch up, the post cap is a real blessing for busy players.

If you want to ask anything, just do it, otherwise a silent thread it's not a bad one per se.
A silent thread benefits only wolfs
You voted me without any reasons so maybe now would be a good time to expand on that rather than complaining that nobody is talking.

This is categorically false

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

I'm on a date lol

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm**

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

I hate these wagons

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:20 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

I hate these wagons

Hmmm

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:20 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:14 am Thread needs to be less dead

This is a weird view to have especially at the time you made it.

Very defeatist attitude.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:22 pm**

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:04 am
Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
I only use it with people that im relatively close with that i know wont realistically care about it or on myself so shrug.
I wont use it on you though if that was the worry.
I don't care about it for myself.
It makes my blood pressure rise for unrelated reasons.
I consider it just bad.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:55 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
It's not funny, it doesn't bring anything to the game and on top of that it's insulting if you look at it literally.
There's no reasoning with people who find that meme funny. Unfortunately I have come to realise that generationally they are broken. We ruined the kids Michelle.
Talk for yourself BigMac
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:04 pm Fwiw I am pre-emptively not applying usually Manny town meta looks to my mental model of Manny because I am very conscious that Manny gets overwhelmed when he lets himself get carried away in games and would be trying to hedge against that instinct in ways that might result in unusual looks.

The fact that he's actually posting with a pulse at all given the above might be strongly indicative he didn't cop an unfortunate wolf rand in this game tbh.
Manny and unfortunate wolf rand don't belong in the same sentence for me. I noticed he really enjoyed himself as a wolf.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:52 pm Anyways, again, if anyone wants to give me some opinions on the last 9 pages or so, then I'll keep their thoughts in mind on first read-through.
Mac called me town leader while also saying he does trust me, so I guess I’ll try and summarize what I see with as little coloring as I can.

-Chelsea and Manny had a bit of a spat?
-mac is here and has only made 1 poop joke.
-almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently
-Lime Coke has declared I’m town, not gonna fight that fact anymore.
-Dunnstral has provided reads with reasons and is seemingly sheeping me
-Princess Abigail is bored and is trying to usurp me by getting to post cap first
-creature is gonna slank until things get interesting
-profit
Sooo
'almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently'
Means you don't but you choose to sheep the people I apparently pocketed?
Why I don't see real AI takes in your post here?
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:09 pm ok, gonna go get some coffee and hit the gym.

In the meantime, someone give a reason why Epignosis is town.
He made me giggle
Solid.
But explain me the reason, it passed over my head
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:50 pm
Spoiler: show

Prolific thread so far. Went to bed at the end of page 2, now it's page 11.

I'll catch up tonight, but I had an idea while driving home from work. If anyone wants to give me some suspicions or whatever that they have, then I can do the catchup sort of like a reread... to keep in mind some ideas like "X's progression was very towny/wolfy". If anyone wants to give some perspectives. Dinner first, so there's time for folks to respond with some angles.

I see Epi is going full-image-style, though if the images are just going to have text, then I don't see the point. I don't want to see billboards of post-text, I want nuance that a well-chosen image can illuminate, beyond, perhaps, what mere text can convey.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:02 pm Courier 6 could be more of a town-friendly Indy, so maybe 5 threats.
If we delve into game meta a lot then courier could be anything from good to evil or just chaos agent.

I’ll go out on a limb though and say both them and house are survivor style roles and the other needs to die
I haven't played the game, I just looked it up and saw that he's the protagonist/Player Character. Is it one of those games where you can choose "the evil route"?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:36 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:30 pm But in all seriousness, I think Lime Coke thinks he has a good read on what my town game looks like.

I think it *more* likely, however;l, that he’s TMIing me
Maybe. Or maybe you're the Wolf, and saying that is an attempt to give good mindset vibes to the thread.
A little early to be playing this hard isn’t it
Is that what you consider playing hard? I thought it was just a single thought that occurred when reading Scotty's "he's TMI'ing me Town" thing.

Yes essentially you’ve got 3 options

1. Good
2. Evil
3. Libertarian:

it’s common to kill House as the courier hence my idea that they have to kill each other.
That's a thing to consider, thanks for sharing
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:29 pm So general thoughts:

Epi is NAI.

Scotty came in surprisingly strong, which was a good look, but his thoughts on Epi are weird. I’ll say third party for now and move on.

Mac, Jack, and Chelsea all have light town reads

Abi has a light mafia read

That is all
What your light town reads did to deserve it?
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:30 pm Ph Michelle is a solid town read also and light town reads of falcon and creature
Same question
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:06 pm Town Core

Mac
Lan
Chelsea
Scotty

Yeppers
You mean Mac is out of his scum range?
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:25 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:20 am Scotty being so defensive of his scum game and Brad's take on it is imho enough to core that because I feel a wolf just rides that wave and plays to the style bread says he expects
Really? I consider denying townreads to be Basic Wolf 101.
I like this post. Feeling good about LC.

And good morning everyone ^^

All my town reads so far are based off a combo of gut/vibe, meta, and in game posts.

Some like falcon and Mac will be pretty clear by day 3 I’d say.

You, Chelsea, and Scotty seem to be doing a lot of solving attempts (even though scotty is voting for me

)

Jack and Mac are both 100% vibe right now

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:23 pm**

I’m not a fan of Manny random vote

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:46 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:20 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:14 am Thread needs to be less dead
This is a weird view to have especially at the time you made it.

Very defeatist attitude.

Lol

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm**

This game has potentially 1/3 of the players as non-town roles

If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Using that same 1/3 logic it would really be helpful if we started explaining why we are voting for people, especially as we get near the end of the day. Personally I'm not a fan of the Seanzie wagon as I'm seeing people vote there with little or no reasoning. And people I don't really trust are voting there. I think that makes them less likely to be mafia but same odds for third party - there isn't really a way to filter for that yet.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:56 pm**

Oh right man I kinda got too lazy for this game

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:57 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:58 pm**

What are your all thoughts on Michelle and Lime Coke?

I believe they should be the easiest players to read right now and it seems like they're actually posting content so they're more likely to be town.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:58 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm Personally I'm not a fan of the Seanzie wagon as I'm seeing people vote there with little or no reasoning.

Oh right it would be nice to know why Seanzie is being voted.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:59 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:19 pm I think there's a good chance I'll get bored, go missing almost the whole day and return EOD to either see a large wagon on me or lead away from wolf to a mislynch.

I am about to fill this prophecy.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:00 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:20 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:19 pm I think there's a good chance I'll get bored, go missing almost the whole day and return EOD to either see a large wagon on me or lead away from wolf to a mislynch.
That’s your …. Civilian meta, is it not?

Yeah, kinda. Mostly on this site. I guess I get less bored in MU depending on the playerlist.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:01 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:20 pm Why is it "obviously"?

I think this is roughly where I left off.

…

He says before receiving a text and disappearing for a few hours after finding his spot.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:01 pm**

Not sure what you mean when you say you get bored?

It seems like you disappeared right at the start of the game and then didn't read anything.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:04 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm Bomething Romething Aomething Domething

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:55 pm Something, Br, something, ad something something, something.

I wonder if Seanzie is being wagoned for these posts.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:04 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:01 pm Not sure what you mean when you say you get bored?

It seems like you disappeared right at the start of the game and then didn't read anything.

Yeah, I tend to get bored before I even enter the thread.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:06 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:03 pm Thanks for the reminder.

Everyone gets a maximum of 100 posts per day phase. This will lift an hour prior to the poll deadline.
Ugh this is gonna be quite painful

but maybe I won't get to 100-post anyway

Just don't wagon me D1 because it's like the hardest day for me to handle

My reads D1 are prob going to be shit, they take some new flips to adjust
I tunnel you every game so I'm gonna try not to do this for once

But I hate this opening... send help

Seems like you have issues with my playstyle, not my actual alignment.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:07 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:12 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:40 pm Something something, Brad, something.
Now THIS.

THIS is some towny shit
Unironically agree

What?

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:07 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/
I'm on a date lol

So before your date you came here complaining for inactivity?

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:09 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.
Why is that?
Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.

Alright I think Lime Coke can be probably town for this.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:09 pm**

VC

Spoiler: show

Seanzie 4 Voters: Falcon45ca, LanMisa, Epignosis, MacDougall
sig. 3. Voters: Manny, Scotty, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:11 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.
Why is that?
Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.
That would be annoying I need some wins
Fucking same I think I've only gotten 1 win since I came back.

1) Rand town
2) Do your best
3) Die and watch town ignore wolves
4) Lose

or

1) Rand wolf
2) Get lynched D1
3) Let your wolfmates carry you
4) Win

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:13 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:48 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.
Why is that?
Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.
That would be annoying I need some wins
Fucking same I think I've only gotten 1 win since I came back.
I'm undefeated as town on mu since coming back but I haven't won a game here or FoL I think it's frustrating

After playing Don't Starve mafia I feel like in Syndicate I am playing against AIs learning mafia

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:14 pm**

Maybe Princess Abigail can be town for hating my opening but recognizing it's a playstyle issue.

I feel like as a wolf they would prob just try to appease everyone or make an actual push on someone.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:16 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

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