The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:00 am I mean I guess I could but no one would believe me if I did :P

Well except maybe Juliets.

And mafia have Hogwarts abilities so that means nothing POE-wise.

This isn't making me feel any less suspicious of you dude.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:00 am I mean I guess I could but no one would believe me if I did :P

Well except maybe Juliets.

And mafia have Hogwarts abilities so that means nothing POE-wise.

This isn't making me feel any less suspicious of you dude.

Nothing would

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:08 am Here is me btw:

Night 1 - Prepared the Elixir of Life
Night 2 - I forgot to put an action in
Night 3 - I gave the Elixir to Timmer
Night 4 - I used Prior Incantato on Sloonei and saw him use Wingardium Leviosa on Nutella
Night 5 - I used Prior Incantato on Colin and saw that he used no action (was roleblocked by Nutella)
Night 6 - I tried to use Prior Incantato on Nutella by posting it in the thread instead of PMing Luffy and haven't receved a result so I am presuming he just thought I was messing and didn't give me a result.

Have we reconciled the fact that Colin was roleblocked by nutella and didn't know it? Roleblocks are revealed to the user in this game (according to DDL answering my question in DM). Colin claimed he used his wingardium leviosa and when I scanned him it said he didn't use an action and initially he didn't say he was roleblocked just that I must have been redirected or some such. If he was a civ that was genuinely roleblocked wouldn't he have just said he was roleblocked straight away given that Luffy tells people when they are roleblocked?

Is it possible that Colin really did just not submit his Hogwarts night action because in doing so he would be roleblocking his scum teammate hence why he actually wasn't roleblocked?

It's hard to rationalise this in my head. Help.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:10 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:00 am I mean I guess I could but no one would believe me if I did :P

Well except maybe Juliets.

And mafia have Hogwarts abilities so that means nothing POE-wise.

This isn't making me feel any less suspicious of you dude.

Nothing would

Primo Garbo. I am entirely capable of pivoting. I am an instinct based player. If you give me a reason to unravel my current feelings they will unravel.

You just seem like someone who doesn't want to get caught making something up that's easy to refute. You have no choice but to role reveal right now imo.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:10 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:00 am I mean I guess I could but no one would believe me if I did :P

Well except maybe Juliets.

And mafia have Hogwarts abilities so that means nothing POE-wise.

This isn't making me feel any less suspicious of you dude.

Nothing would

Primo Garbo. I am entirely capable of pivoting. I am an instinct based player. If you give me a reason to unravel my current feelings they will unravel.

You just seem like someone who doesn't want to get caught making something up that's easy to refute. You have no choice but to role reveal right now imo.

Eh, do I tho? Must I? I genuinely don't like to role claim or infodump, and the game is 100% solvable without my contribution to the roleclaiming and infodumping.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:14 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:10 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:00 am I mean I guess I could but no one would believe me if I did :P

Well except maybe Juliets.

And mafia have Hogwarts abilities so that means nothing POE-wise.

This isn't making me feel any less suspicious of you dude.

Nothing would

Primo Garbo. I am entirely capable of pivoting. I am an instinct based player. If you give me a reason to unravel my current feelings they will unravel.

You just seem like someone who doesn't want to get caught making something up that's easy to refute. You have no choice but to role reveal right now imo.

Eh, do I tho? Must I? I genuinely don't like to role claim or infodump, and the game is 100% solvable without my contribution to the roleclaiming and infodumping.

If you are a civ you also have a responsibility to prevent your own death. If you are a civilian the only thing you will cause by refusing is your own lynch. The only player right now with a modus operandi for hiding their night actions is the hidden Mafia.

Also I doubt that it is 100% solvable without it if you are the one who is the deepwolf.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:58 am Night Actions -

N3 - Phoenix
N4 - made a potion
N5 - sent it to DH - you're welcome DH
N6 - made a potion

Is that enough or do you need more?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:14 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:10 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:00 am I mean I guess I could but no one would believe me if I did :P

Well except maybe Juliets.

And mafia have Hogwarts abilities so that means nothing POE-wise.

This isn't making me feel any less suspicious of you dude.

Nothing would

Primo Garbo. I am entirely capable of pivoting. I am an instinct based player. If you give me a reason to unravel my current feelings they will unravel.

You just seem like someone who doesn't want to get caught making something up that's easy to refute. You have no choice but to role reveal right now imo.

Eh, do I tho? Must I? I genuinely don't like to role claim or infodump, and the game is 100% solvable without my contribution to the roleclaiming and infodumping.

If you are a civ you also have a responsibility to prevent your own death. If you are a civilian the only thing you will cause by refusing is your own lynch. The only player right now with a modus operandi for hiding their night actions is the hidden Mafia.

Also I doubt that it is 100% solvable without it if you are the one who is the deepwolf.

But nobody aside from you wants to lynch me :/

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:18 am If you are a civ and you're just being stubborn for no reason that'd be a pretty shitty way for us to lose the game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:20 am Just trying to ensure that we don't lose this unloseable game for dumb reasons.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:20 am Just trying to ensure that we don't lose this unloseable game for dumb reasons.

I really don't like infodumping and outing myself ever but I'm strongly considering it just to see your reaction meh....

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:23 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:20 am Just trying to ensure that we don't lose this unloseable game for dumb reasons.

I really don't like infodumping and outing myself ever but I'm strongly considering it just to see your reaction meh....

You are considering it because my reaction will be meh, or wow?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:08 am Here is me btw:

Night 1 - Prepared the Elixir of Life
Night 2 - I forgot to put an action in
Night 3 - I gave the Elixir to Timmer
Night 4 - I used Prior Incantato on Sloonei and saw him use Wingardium Leviosa on Nutella
Night 5 - I used Prior Incantato on Colin and saw that he used no action (was roleblocked by Nutella)
Night 6 - I tried to use Prior Incantato on Nutella by posting it in the thread instead of PMing Luffy and haven't receved a result so I am presuming he just thought I was messing and didn't give me a result.

Have we reconciled the fact that Colin was roleblocked by nutella and didn't know it? Roleblocks are revealed to the user in this game (according to DDL answering my question in DM). Colin claimed he used his wingardium leviosa and when I scanned him it said he didn't use an action and initially he didn't say he was roleblocked just that I must have been redirected or some such. If he was a civ that was genuinely roleblocked wouldn't he have just said he was roleblocked straight away given that Luffy tells people when they are roleblocked?

Is it possible that Colin really did just not submit his Hogwarts night action because in doing so he would be roleblocking his scum teammate hence why he actually wasn't roleblocked?

It's hard to rationalise this in my head. Help.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:23 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:20 am Just trying to ensure that we don't lose this unloseable game for dumb reasons.

I really don't like infodumping and outing myself ever but I'm strongly considering it just to see your reaction meh....

You are considering it because my reaction will be meh, or wow?

I'm considering it because once I do you'll hop off my jock and find the last mafia

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:08 am Here is me btw:

Night 1 - Prepared the Elixir of Life
Night 2 - I forgot to put an action in
Night 3 - I gave the Elixir to Timmer
Night 4 - I used Prior Incantato on Sloonei and saw him use Wingardium Leviosa on Nutella
Night 5 - I used Prior Incantato on Colin and saw that he used no action (was roleblocked by Nutella)
Night 6 - I tried to use Prior Incantato on Nutella by posting it in the thread instead of PMing Luffy and haven't receved a result so I am presuming he just thought I was messing and didn't give me a result.

Have we reconciled the fact that Colin was roleblocked by nutella and didn't know it? Roleblocks are revealed to the user in this game (according to DDL answering my question in DM). Colin claimed he used his wingardium leviosa and when I scanned him it said he didn't use an action and initially he didn't say he was roleblocked just that I must have been redirected or some such. If he was a civ that was genuinely roleblocked wouldn't he have just said he was roleblocked straight away given that Luffy tells people when they are roleblocked?

Is it possible that Colin really did just not submit his Hogwarts night action because in doing so he would be roleblocking his scum teammate hence why he actually wasn't roleblocked?

It's hard to rationalise this in my head. Help.

This is what I thought. Even if I blocked him I would think DDL would tell you who he tried to target but I could be wrong about that. So I thought maybe he just didn't do anything but who knows


Tbf Mac I disagree with you on revealing abilities. I've been hesitant to reveal mine as well because it's dangerous for civs to reveal their stuff to the scum and also as I pointed out more than once I'm pretty sure outing night actions helped my scum team win FE (which had a similar setup in terms of scum having the same ability set as town with enhancements).

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:27 am Nutella also disagrees on revealing abilities, an interesting situation we find ourselves in where our two townie leaders both somehow find themselves in an infodumping and role revealing game on day 7 with either all or most of their night actions hidden. Definitely no reason to tinfoil or suspect them. None at all.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:22 am IDK @nutella Do you want me to out my night actions or what.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:27 am Nutella also disagrees on revealing abilities, an interesting situation we find ourselves in where our two townie leaders both somehow find themselves in an infodumping and role revealing game on day 7 with either all or most of their night actions hidden. Definitely no reason to tinfoil or suspect them. None at all.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:28 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:22 am IDK @nutella Do you want me to out my night actions or what.

Maybe if Colin flips town I would then request it. But not now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:29 am "[Divination]: The one who uses this art will learn whether another student is innocent or guilty.

If used by a guilty student, it will instead make them obtain a list of Hogwarts Abilities the target knows."

Why am I posting this? I ask Nutella and DH specifically because they are such good students.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:05 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:10 pm When I flip, refocus your attention on [VOTE: LUNALEE] aubergine. She interceded on Sloonei’s behalf because he was barking up the wrong trees but could earn towncred by saving him. It’s as easy as that.

I was blocked last night.

I’m using canary cream tonight on juliets. Jack and Luna will not be able to use dark arts abilities.

See ya.

did you block my action last night as well? If so that was very dumb, as I would have gotten a reading on Mac otherwise.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:32 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:05 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:10 pm When I flip, refocus your attention on [VOTE: LUNALEE] aubergine. She interceded on Sloonei’s behalf because he was barking up the wrong trees but could earn towncred by saving him. It’s as easy as that.

I was blocked last night.

I’m using canary cream tonight on juliets. Jack and Luna will not be able to use dark arts abilities.

See ya.

did you block my action last night as well? If so that was very dumb, as I would have gotten a reading on Mac otherwise.

Colin was roleblocked himself last night apparently. We know nutella has a roleblock. I presume she roleblocked him. You were probably roleblocked by the scum. Which is of no surprise really if you are a cop.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:32 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:05 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:10 pm When I flip, refocus your attention on [VOTE: LUNALEE] aubergine. She interceded on Sloonei’s behalf because he was barking up the wrong trees but could earn towncred by saving him. It’s as easy as that.

I was blocked last night.

I’m using canary cream tonight on juliets. Jack and Luna will not be able to use dark arts abilities.

See ya.

did you block my action last night as well? If so that was very dumb, as I would have gotten a reading on Mac otherwise.

Colin was roleblocked himself last night apparently. We know nutella has a roleblock. I presume she roleblocked him. You were probably roleblocked by the scum. Which is of no surprise really if you are a cop.

Nutella's roleblock she claimed was a one shot that she claimed to have used on Colin

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:32 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:05 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:10 pm When I flip, refocus your attention on [VOTE: LUNALEE] aubergine. She interceded on Sloonei’s behalf because he was barking up the wrong trees but could earn towncred by saving him. It’s as easy as that.

I was blocked last night.

I’m using canary cream tonight on juliets. Jack and Luna will not be able to use dark arts abilities.

See ya.

did you block my action last night as well? If so that was very dumb, as I would have gotten a reading on Mac otherwise.

Colin was roleblocked himself last night apparently. We know nutella has a roleblock. I presume she roleblocked him. You were probably roleblocked by the scum. Which is of no surprise really if you are a cop.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:34 am If the scum have a diviner. Which Jack claimed to be and really still could be, and if you (DH) or you (Nutella) are actually a civ. Do you really think they don't know your abilities by now? Especially given your stature and the fact that you are alive. You are probably alive because they do in fact know what you can do.

So given that, the only people who wouldn't know what you can do is in fact the rest of the civilians.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:38 am I don't know why are you both making me out to be some sort of weirdo for wanting all the cards on the table here on day 7 in a game where role revealing is allowed, infodumping is allowed, the scum have a rolecop and a way to redirect night actions etc. etc. etc.

Any argument you can make not to is just flat out wrong.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 am You know who wouldn't want to reveal their roles?

The Mafia.

You know why?

Getting caught in a lie.

You know who doesn't care about revealing their roles?

The town.

You know why?

Helps find the Mafia lying.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 am You know who wouldn't want to reveal their roles?

The Mafia.

You know why?

Getting caught in a lie.

You know who doesn't care about revealing their roles?

The town.

You know why?

Helps find the Mafia lying.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:38 am I don't know why are you both making me out to be some sort of weirdo for wanting all the cards on the table here on day 7 in a game where role revealing is allowed, infodumping is allowed, the scum have a rolecop and a way to redirect night actions etc. etc. etc.

Any argument you can make not to is just flat out wrong.

Fucking think about what you just said. This is LITERALLY how my team won FE. Everyone just fucking stated what they were doing and we got to redirect shit to our heart's content.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:38 am I don't know why are you both making me out to be some sort of weirdo for wanting all the cards on the table here on day 7 in a game where role revealing is allowed, infodumping is allowed, the scum have a rolecop and a way to redirect night actions etc. etc. etc.

Any argument you can make not to is just flat out wrong.

Fucking think about what you just said. This is LITERALLY how my team won FE. Everyone just fucking stated what they were doing and we got to redirect shit to our heart's content.

You think the scum don't know everyones roles by now? You two are the only ones who haven't revealed it in the thread! As if they haven't divined you!

Fucking THINK Nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:38 am I don't know why are you both making me out to be some sort of weirdo for wanting all the cards on the table here on day 7 in a game where role revealing is allowed, infodumping is allowed, the scum have a rolecop and a way to redirect night actions etc. etc. etc.

Any argument you can make not to is just flat out wrong.

Fucking think about what you just said. This is LITERALLY how my team won FE. Everyone just fucking stated what they were doing and we got to redirect shit to our heart's content.

You think the scum don't know everyones roles by now? You two are the only ones who haven't revealed it in the thread! As if they haven't divined you!

Fucking THINK Nutella.

There's a chance they haven't. And even if they did, I don't need to confirm anything or specify which actions I've been using and how. But whatever, like I said I already have revealed two.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:43 am Maybe if you actually read my posts you would know what two of my abilities were and what I did the last two nights.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:10 pm I'm going to have essentially zero time until Tuesday night or Wednesday. While I'm not here y'all best find excuses to do work and not excuses to do fuck all. Epi's recent grumbles are valid.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine, because he said some shit I didn't like earlier. He provided a token response to Epi's dig at juliets which just looked like "this is where I am supposed to interject with this here comment" instead of "this is a problem and I want to address it".

This is the post in question:

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:35 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:29 pm juliets and I are not teammates.

There. Go. Find bad guys.

so you know you're on different teams

I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't have read anything at all into Quin saying that, and the fact that Jay did is a little weird.