Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I admitted I was in the wrong there. We all can't play perfect.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:34 am This post on Sig also still sticks out to me:
His explanation ("idk what I meant but still think Sig is town") didn't really clear it up at all.Spoiler: show
No, but your inconsistency does.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:03 pmDoes my quickness unsettle you?
I don't care about being consistent.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:58 amNo, but your inconsistency does.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:03 pmDoes my quickness unsettle you?
What's this pleasesig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:24 am [3] rundontwalk - colonialbob, Kites, sig (no vote)
[1] colonialbob - rundontwalk
[4] lapluie - Epignosis, Dragon D. Luffy, sprity0, nutella (No vote)
[1] Iron_Dwarf - speedchuck
[1] nutella - Iron_Dwarf (Switched from Epi)
Not voting: gwilikers6, Kenway, Kylemii, lapluie,
I believe this is right
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pm=)rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pmYou seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question
Early interactions are limited to these two posts.Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 pmWhen I think about early content the first "real" contributors I recall are you and rdw. I don't know where the latter is now, but you stand out as wanting to get things done.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:00 amSorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:45 pmDisagree with DDL. He gets emotional in arguments as a civilian. I've gone back and forth with him in enough games to know this. I don't know if it's also scum indicative. I've not played with him in that alignment.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:40 pmInstinct mostly.Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:36 pmI don't see an explanation for this opinion in your posts. Can you elaborate?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:02 pmThere's scum among IronDwarf/gwilikers/dr/kitesJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:55 pmAre your reads in a state of constant quantum fluctuation?
I think y'all are overlooking gwilikers. Would town gwilikers be so so invested?
I am a lion and the scum are baby gazelles.
Those are the people who strike me as most scummy reading their posts. Like where is Kites? Doctor Dragon got really bothered by MacDougall the way scum would. Like you can call me scum all day long and I will laugh in your face cause you're wrong and I'm right
On the surface, Day 2 strikes me as "softball" interactions, but the interaction does not, to my eye, appear scripted.Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 pmIt's Dragon Dick Luffy.
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalkrundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:28 pmLol. I reject this out of hand. It's simply not possible that you think I'm more scummy than Quin. Try againgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:05 pm 85% gut reads. Can't be bothered to write up cases on anyone or do any more reading. Doesn't help me much at all.
gwilikers6
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
colonialbob
Dr. White
Epignosis
Kenway
Kylemii
Long Con
MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie
ColinIsCool
Quin
Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo
sig
rundontwalk
nutella
Marmot
Kites
Iron_Dwarf
DrWilgy
This is only peripherally related to Quin, but it stood out to me. It looks like a genuine accusation to me.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:25 amYou are excused.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:24 amexcuse me what?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:22 am"I'll go for whatever. The only good civilian is a dead civilian." - nutella, February 16, 2018nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:20 am I could go for lapluie if that's on the table. As it stands it is between cbob and Dr. White, and I'd prefer to lynch the latter but I prefer rdw over either if he can still get enough votes. My preference out of the likely candidates at the moment would be rundontwalk > lapluie > Dr. White > colonialbob. I dunno what happened to lynching Quin though
You don't care who is lynched is what I got from your whatever attitude towards lynching lapluie.
In retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwillyDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm My scum team:
Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.
nutella's comment looks cooked. She doesn't accuse Quin or defend Quin- she acknowledges something that Quin would do.
nutella jumped in with this after DDL and dunya had already made the point.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:50 pmDo you seriously not have any reads? I just skimmed your ISO and it's, like, 97% fluff.Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:47 pmThat is correct.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:02 amI'm more concerned with "There's nobody I dislike." than his town reads on Dr. White and you. Quin doesn't dislike anyone yet.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:00 amSorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?
Say what?
If mafia thought I was going to switch the lynch like I claimed, they could vote for teammates with little fear of consequences.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:42 pmAh so I did, so sorry about that -- I definitely had you in there while editing and you somehow got deleted. You should be right about next to where Sprityo is. Pretty solid civ read
Woke up to 300+ posts to catch up on, I'm almost done and @dunya I see you asked me a couple things, I'll get to those soon. And I really don't want to get lynched you guysI don't blame some of you for not knowing my meta, but I promise if you give me past my wishy-washy day 1 to get comfortable I can be a valuable scumhunter.
So far I've liked DDL's points on Kenway (and huh I vaguely remember serge) and I feel similarly re: Kites, but I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now -- I still have like 2 pages to read so I'm not sure if he's gotten more votes and I will probably end up voting out of self-preservation if possible (unless Epi is telling the truth about his switch), but for now I think Quin has been looking pretty bad, he posted a bunch of fluff during the draft but once the actual phase started his activity dropped off and he barely provided any content, including saying he had no scum reads.
[VOTE: Quin] aubergine
Good observation by Marmot here: nutella claims "I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now" and then says she still has two pages to read, so that means she could not have been aware of any cases made against Quin in those two pages.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:04 pmMy own and my ownMarmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:49 pmOut of curiousity, you liked DDL's case on Kenway.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:42 pmAh so I did, so sorry about that -- I definitely had you in there while editing and you somehow got deleted. You should be right about next to where Sprityo is. Pretty solid civ read
Woke up to 300+ posts to catch up on, I'm almost done and @dunya I see you asked me a couple things, I'll get to those soon. And I really don't want to get lynched you guys
So far I've liked DDL's points on Kenway (and huh I vaguely remember serge) and I feel similarly re: Kites, but I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now -- I still have like 2 pages to read so I'm not sure if he's gotten more votes and I will probably end up voting out of self-preservation if possible (unless Epi is telling the truth about his switch), but for now I think Quin has been looking pretty bad, he posted a bunch of fluff during the draft but once the actual phase started his activity dropped off and he barely provided any content, including saying he had no scum reads.
[VOTE: Quin] aubergine
Who's case on Quin did you like? Same question about Kites.
Where the devil did that Day 1 confidence go?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:07 pmok. have you explained your vote on Iron_Dwarf? Is it related to the Dr. White draft thing or something else? Should I ISO him?
My vote is on Quin for now but I'm open to other options, especially if he comes back and provides more content this phase
Why do you suspect me?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:39 amIn retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwillyDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm My scum team:
Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.
Because I think you're clever enough to pull off a fake claim like that and it worries megwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:00 pmWhy do you suspect me?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:39 amIn retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwillyDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm My scum team:
Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.
Wait, till the deadline??? I’m at work I can’t really answer anything beyond a one sentence reply but I’d say Nutella is on the scummy side. I suspected her a lot early and I feel like something role related came up to make me back down, but I can’t remwmber what it was.
Like what? My public role in the OP that has been confirmed 3 times by the people I’ve used it on?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:04 pmBecause I think you're clever enough to pull off a fake claim like that and it worries megwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:00 pmWhy do you suspect me?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:39 amIn retrospect I find this post horrifying given what I've thought about gwillyDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm My scum team:
Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.
Deadline, yes- if I'm reading the clock and the poll title correctly.gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:05 pmWait, till the deadline??? I’m at work I can’t really answer anything beyond a one sentence reply but I’d say Nutella is on the scummy side. I suspected her a lot early and I feel like something role related came up to make me back down, but I can’t remwmber what it was.
How does nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself? She only had one vote, and if I'm reading it correctly she was the first person to vote for him. If she got lynched and showed up bad, what would that make people think of Quin?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:33 pm Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?
Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.
No she didn't. She had like 5. Quin had 0. She saved herself by starting a wagon on him.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:44 pmHow does nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself? She only had one vote, and if I'm reading it correctly she was the first person to vote for him. If she got lynched and showed up bad, what would that make people think of Quin?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:33 pm Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?
Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.
Do you think nutella is a civilian?
Who else had votes at the time?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:45 pmNo she didn't. She had like 5. Quin had 0. She saved herself by starting a wagon on him.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:44 pmHow does nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself? She only had one vote, and if I'm reading it correctly she was the first person to vote for him. If she got lynched and showed up bad, what would that make people think of Quin?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:33 pm Why does a baddie Nutella move a lynch on Quin to save herself?
Why not... literally anyone else? There wasn't a shortage of inactives on d1 to pick from.
Do you think nutella is a civilian?
Yes I do.
This part of the case I don't like. Unless you're teammates, they can't *know* that you're going to do that, and it's very risky to rely on you to actually be telling the truth about something like that. In fact, you were lying, as it turns out, just you stopped the lynch completely instead of stalling it.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:57 amIf mafia thought I was going to switch the lynch like I claimed, they could vote for teammates with little fear of consequences.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:42 pmAh so I did, so sorry about that -- I definitely had you in there while editing and you somehow got deleted. You should be right about next to where Sprityo is. Pretty solid civ read
Woke up to 300+ posts to catch up on, I'm almost done and @dunya I see you asked me a couple things, I'll get to those soon. And I really don't want to get lynched you guys
So far I've liked DDL's points on Kenway (and huh I vaguely remember serge) and I feel similarly re: Kites, but I think the case on Quin is the strongest right now -- I still have like 2 pages to read so I'm not sure if he's gotten more votes and I will probably end up voting out of self-preservation if possible (unless Epi is telling the truth about his switch), but for now I think Quin has been looking pretty bad, he posted a bunch of fluff during the draft but once the actual phase started his activity dropped off and he barely provided any content, including saying he had no scum reads.
[VOTE: Quin] aubergine
[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine
I think your point was that she wasn't caught up? Ehich I think is reaching because I have done that like ten times myself. Catch up while reading the last few pages.
Would baddie nutella make this post about civ TSP? Why?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 pmIt's a role that the scum might want to snatch up so the town can't learn their secrets. (and while I'm writing this I see this has been answered already)Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:00 pm TSP is the Shaman: "Forbidden Knowledge - Each night, you may choose a role from role list and reveal any secrets or background powers associated with it. Using this on scum roles too often without using it on enough draft/promotion roles will result in negative consequences."
This would be a very odd baddie role, because why would a scum use this on a scummate?
That being said, I wouldn't want to mislynch the Shaman if Tony is civ after all, but I'm really not feeling good about him.
Hey that's me and I resent the assumptionHe requested it, I didn't think for too long about it and I was still trying to wrap my head around all the roles so I didn't even consider that it was a role the scum might want to claim. I was more wary of Wilgy asking for a killing role. I think I must have associated info roles with townies wanting them, and I wanted to keep the draft going relatively quickly so I unfortunately didn't think about it for too long.
If I unwittingly gave such a powerful role to the mafia then it is my duty to repent by lynching the guy D1
Also, he still hasn't explained his mysterious accusation of Kyle, has he? Wtf was that about?
Why do you want to save IronDwarf?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:04 pm I don't.
I will try to make sure one of RDW or lapluie gets ltnched today.
Yes because you are trying to save yourself and people are voting away from you.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:02 pm [VOTE: IronDwarf] aubergine
I like this crazy and indecisive Epi
How do you feel about RDWgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:06 pm I just don’t want to lynch him cuz he’s not going to die, unless he’s already been targeted by a night kill. I’d rather lap at this point.
So easy to fake...