The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm Yeah okay, I was wrong on Epi.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:05 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:04 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:46 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:59 am Oh yeah and the NK

I mean who doesn't kill SVS there

Me

I'd elim this.

You'd elim me every game

Only when you're a wolf.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

You don't think the wolves could have double-stacked?

If they did it was on Neon I think. I still feel generally good about the people on the Syn wagon, with exception SixStrings.

you're telling me if wolves stack, it would be on the smaller counterwagon of 3 people instead of the leading wagon of 5 people?
I find that hard to believe

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:16 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

explain your vote on me yesterday
(and today)

my vote on you is because you didn't explain your vote on me yesterday
and Roxy and Dennis reminded me that's exactly what you did last game as wolf

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

what about Neon?

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:50 pm Aye, lets break this down,

Re Dennis - I don't feel like you actually come to an alignment based decision here.
Re Me - Why was the readlist bad? Was it specifically the reds? What about the greens?
Re Epi - I'll take this as an SR?
Re Falc - This is a TR?
re Splints - This one seems hedgey
re Matahari - null, fair
re neon - slight tr with bad read?
re roxy - null
re sean - tr'd because of the falcon defense?
re six - wr because stilted

Lemon, this does still feel fluffy and kinda 'safe' on all takes. I slept on my initial read of you, and yeah, I do think that I was abit too deep on reading into the silly early reads, but this list is full of hedgey takes and your two real srs are just the low posters. Why exactly, are Neon and I presented as trs in spite of you disagreeing with our reads?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:56 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:58 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:45 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:31 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:21 am DrWilgy also seemed like they scumread me more but they are voting Syn and not me hmm

The fact that you don't pose this as an actual question for me to answer and are talking to the crowd makes it seem like you are eager to discredit me tbh.

I just think there's a slightly higher chance I'm wrong on your alignment as opposed to Syn.

But also, there's nothing from keeping you as teammates. What is the chop of one wolf compared to the chop of another.

you weren't here so I was talking to thread
or to myself

did you explain why you scumread me so much- no, you kind of did, it was the reads vs posts ratio
have you changed your thoughts after reading the rest of my posts or are you still in the process of reading?

And that's it right there. I didn't but you only thought to ask now.

You went to discrediting the read before I even supplied it in full.

Simply put, early in your fluff to read ratio was bad, and momentum, I get it, but then your read list early was also bad even as a joke post.

You had Dennis, SVS, Six, Falcon, Splints, Mata and Roxy as scum with Me/Syn as T.

You also made some not W/W associations.

Even if it was for shits and giggles, I don't see this being pro town. The maybe fake maybe real not W/W associations just makes me think you are saying things to appear towny.

and that was because you weren't there
I'm just posting thoughts as I go

it feels like the reasons you have to scumread me aren't that strong and you're also avoiding actually voting me
I already know the read is wrong so it's not really a discredit but I still would like to know the full reason

and you did say you were going to respond to the rest of my reads before so maybe you'd have answered the questions I wanted to ask
no reason to drop a "why" there imo

I think it was fairly clear that a lot of the reads in #75 were very reachy and some were even silly
it's not really a post people would townread so idk why I, as scum, would post it for the purpose of getting townread

it was more for the purpose of generating more content and to get my head in the game, which it managed to do

Aye, I did feel that there was a higher chance I was wrong on you as opposed to Syn. Post economy also seems to imply that I'm more likely to solve you as opposed to Syn given you stick around.

Fair enough. I feel like I'd be more inclined to ask, but maybe that's a me thing.

And it did generate content, the point of a W making posts like that is exactly so they can say 'but look, I helped push the game out of RVS.'

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:58 pm Roxy

fingersplints
Lemonfairy

DrWilgy
Dennis

falcon45ca

SixStrings
Matahari

Neon

Epignosis

I'm not completely sure why Fingersplints ended up so high, but it is what it is. I'd like to see more from both SixStrings and Matahari because I feel like they are both pretty much null all this point.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:09 am Why don't you question lemons placement as well?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:03 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:19 am @DrWilgy - you are feeling less involved this game, doesn't affect your alignment tho I feel like I am having a hard time gauging your reads. Some feel a bit forced but I am unsure what or if that means anything. I am feeling townish from you but Imma need more from you, pretty please.

What reads of mine feel forced exactly?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:32 am Wow a lot of my saved posts were fluff

I guess everything important was in that first post

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:34 am Anways, Epi is old news. @Dennis what are your thoughts on Neon, girl of the 21st century?

She's been her normal self, nothing significant she's done really comes to mind except for that "explain votes" post

I don't know why, but I'm not entirely sure town Neon worries about that. Kinda weirded me out, but overall town

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:30 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

Oi, but if you are town, and the rest of the town also thought this, what discussion would ever be had?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:58 am So do you think you're LHF (or is he pushing someone else who is LHF that I forgot about)

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:02 pm @fingersplints thats fair, it’s the same thought I had when SVS was killed. I wouldn’t suspect Roxy for it, because we were both on a mafia team a few weeks back and one of the team wanted to kill Dennis or SVS on night one. Roxy and I both revolted, because it was Dennis’s first game and because SVS historically gets killed on night one. I would fight tooth and nail not to kill her night one, but you only have my word for it so, fair.
I do think someone who felt safe in the thread, but not bts, decided it was a good time to yeet her. While she wasn’t suspicious of them

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:15 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:50 pm The problem here is that you have me at the top of your list and you are accusing me of going after left handed fiddlers.

@Seanzie I don't think I saw an answer to this
you had Epi near the top of your reads so why the vote?

was it a change in read or just a "I don't like what you're doing now" vote?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

oh so the previous list was more of a carry-over from your early reads?

I feel like I already addressed this quite a bit, but it was a "I don't like what you're doing now" vote in regards to Epi pushing me and Falcon as a team. I thought more about it though, and decided that the parallels I was seeing between his game in Bike and his gam here were more tenuous than I was thinking yesterday, so Epi is not my main concern right meow.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:13 pm not saying falcon is LHF (was just part of the question)
I hate getting called LHF

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:28 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

You don't think the wolves could have double-stacked?

If they did it was on Neon I think. I still feel generally good about the people on the Syn wagon, with exception SixStrings.

you're telling me if wolves stack, it would be on the smaller counterwagon of 3 people instead of the leading wagon of 5 people?
I find that hard to believe

But I'm like pretty sure this is town Sean and Dennis

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:28 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:16 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

explain your vote on me yesterday
(and today)

my vote on you is because you didn't explain your vote on me yesterday
and Roxy and Dennis reminded me that's exactly what you did last game as wolf

My explanation is that I don't think you are towny

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:26 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:13 pm not saying falcon is LHF (was just part of the question)
I hate getting called LHF

What does LHF mean?

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:39 pm My read list ...

Likely town
Seanzie
Roxy
fingersplints
Neon

Town leaning
Dennis
DrWilgy

Wolf leaning
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Matahari
Lemonfairy

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:38 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:26 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:13 pm not saying falcon is LHF (was just part of the question)
I hate getting called LHF

What does LHF mean?

low hanging fruit
someone who is easily persuaded

and easy to push as a misexe

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:43 pm I can get the exact information with quotes later when I'm home.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 pm pls explain me first lol

and add Mata if you have time

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:16 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:12 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:44 pm Wasn't impressed with IT part 1 though. Hoping this is better.

You would have been better served if you read the book making cool voice-overs for your kids <3 the movies SUCKED imho.

The book is Amazing (Gr 7 baby)



The TV Movie is OK.




The 1st movie was a very cool interpretation of the youth segments of the book. The 2nd movie was crap, as it tried to force comedy into too many scary moments...an audience can laugh at moments in a horror film, but if the comedy is too liberally sprinkled w/ the terror moments?



It's neither funny nor scary

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm A part of me wishes to applaud the lack of shits given regarding consistency.

Another part is dying to defenestrate you.

do you think this inconsistency is scummy?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:12 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:10 pm I thought my overuse of quotation marks made it clear it wasn't that at all. Still, I found a connection between you and falcon. That's what it accomplished. You are hard against a dead falcon. I am not satisfied with your answers regarding why.

no, it wasn't very clear (at least not to me)
do you think this connection is worth anything though?

feels like you're picking at something that scum would be self-conscious about enough to avoid doing with a partner

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:39 pm My read list ...

Likely town
Seanzie
Roxy
fingersplints
Neon

Town leaning
Dennis
DrWilgy

Wolf leaning
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Matahari
Lemonfairy

thanks
can you explain fingerspints, Neon, Epignosis, and me pls?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:09 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:32 am Wow a lot of my saved posts were fluff

I guess everything important was in that first post

wait, Dennis
can you post a reads list for me pls and ty

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:55 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 pm pls explain me first lol

and add Mata if you have time

The main reason for my listing you as 'wolf leaning" is that I started with likely town and worked down from there. The town slots are obviously limited so people tricked down into the other categories.

Mata is on the list as leaning toward wolf.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:09 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

The beauty of this setup is that you don't have a power. You can't save anyone. You can't alignment check anyone. You are vanilla. Your only task is naming your suspects and saying as much as you can about them. Drawing a kill in this setup generally means you've done well.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm A part of me wishes to applaud the lack of shits given regarding consistency.

Another part is dying to defenestrate you.

do you think this inconsistency is scummy?

I'm conflicted on that, hence what I said.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:13 pm I still generated a viewpoint from seanzie regarding falcon which I think is valuable.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:18 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:39 pm My read list ...

Likely town
Seanzie
Roxy
fingersplints
Neon

Town leaning
Dennis
DrWilgy

Wolf leaning
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Matahari
Lemonfairy

thanks
can you explain fingerspints, Neon, Epignosis, and me pls?

Don't do it Six! It might get you killed!

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:13 pmSVS/Wilgy w/w

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:27 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:21 pm idk what else to say

based on the many pages of D1 content, who do you think is the team?

Dennis, SVS, and Syn

i agree let's kill them

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:37 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:06 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:54 pm
um what?

My statement was unequivocal.

but why do you think scum SVS wouldn't react that way?

I've known S~V~S a long time. Mafia S~V~S wouldn't jump out of her shoes from a host post that named her specifically with three people five minutes later. There would be some "what was that" behind the scenes before posting.

this meanwhile is very scummy

I impolitely disagree.

sucks that ur wolfing again herr seanzie

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:36 pm Epi
Splints
Neon
SVS
Seanzie

Mata
Six
Dennis
Roxy
Falcon

Syn
Lemon

Order is irrelevant.

This is the way.

poopy list my liege

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm replace syn and lemon with mata and six

and plummet epi from the top to the bottom

thanks love you

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:20 pmi love lemons now

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:26 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:09 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:32 am Wow a lot of my saved posts were fluff

I guess everything important was in that first post

wait, Dennis
can you post a reads list for me pls and ty

Not gonna lie I didn't really think much before and Neon is lower than I said when I answered seanzie, but not my first chop

They're not ordered within groups

Lemonfairy
Roxy
DrWilgy

fingersplints
Epignosis
falcon45ca

Neon
SixStrings
Matahari

Seanzie

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:24 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:21 pm idk what else to say

based on the many pages of D1 content, who do you think is the team?

Dennis, SVS, and Syn

Pray tell why?

a little birdie flew by and whispered these names to me

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm So no real reason why then?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:44 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:30 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:27 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm So no real reason why then?

no, it's D1
unless you want me to look at N0

which I guess I could
but does it have anything worth looking at?

Well you called me out as bad, and I’d like to know why.

This is a thing that irritates me; calling out or clearing a person without giving reasons.

If you say, we’ll x, y and x seem to be bad to me, you should be willing to say why, I guess.

this is why

So that’s why Lemonfairy thinks I’m bad. Thanks for explaining that for them.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:55 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:53 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:30 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:27 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm So no real reason why then?

no, it's D1
unless you want me to look at N0

which I guess I could
but does it have anything worth looking at?

Well you called me out as bad, and I’d like to know why.

This is a thing that irritates me; calling out or clearing a person without giving reasons.

If you say, we’ll x, y and x seem to be bad to me, you should be willing to say why, I guess.

if you scroll up a bit, you'll see that you were the only ones who have posted D1

I have no idea what you are talking about.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:21 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:15 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:09 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:01 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:58 pm Well I still have no idea what Syn and Lemon are talking about re me, but I gotta go walk the dog and go to bed.

Night!

I think they're just screwing with you

Like just pretending to suspect me for shits and giggles? I hope that would not be the case in this community.

I’d prefer if they were actually suspecting me. I would just like to know why

Anyhow, good night again!

Linki, cause Epignosis knows my game since 2012 maybe? Jeez.

...I've already explained why

you know what, just don't worry about it

You know, I don’t think you have, not really.

But let me tell you, I’m town and I’ll go down kicking and screaming. So not sure why you and syn chose me to focus on, but it won’t end well.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:23 am So far, I think Neon prolly town; if she was bad I think she would not have even considered what I said before rejecting it. But she did consider it.

Of Lemon and syn, I’m more inclined to read Lemon townishly. They feel sincere to me, even if they are aiming that sincerity at me.

I’m a bit more conflicted on syn; but not sure how much of that is OMGUS. When they made this post early day I wasn’t sure it wasn’t a joke since Wilgy and I had two interactions, both over a joke. It felt like sowing seeds for a later vote, maybe a tad opportunistic. So maybe OMGUS on my part, maybe not.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:13 pmSVS/Wilgy w/w

The only person to really catch my eye in a maybe Wolfy way so far is Six. Not sure why he would find me towny when the one game we played together, where I was a civ, I looked nothing like this. I need to hear from him on this.