The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:10 pm Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:23 am Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:09 pm oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:05 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm tutuu swing at the ball

ooh spicy

@tutuu

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:10 pm Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:23 am Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:09 pm oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:05 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm tutuu swing at the ball

ooh spicy

@tutuu

Notice me nutpai

I have like a little bit of time to spend on this game. What should I care about the most according to you?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:10 pm Thunal is mafia 98%.

You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.

If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?

lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:23 am Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?

I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:09 pm oh and i think sloonei is village as well

Why is this?

I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

this is weak

Fight me!

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:13 pm Actually, TSP can be scum, too, for calling my case on Wilgy weak.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pmhaving like any reads at all?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:04 am

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:01 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:57 pm tutuu you've never played with me before in a big game this is pretty much typical

Lies, Kyle is always supatown.

I don't understand this post, can you say it again pls?

Kyle's basically the no1 poster in every game I've seen him play. Keeping up levels of content on par with JJJ. His current play is very unlike him.

this is still kinda weird imo, Michelle. I see what he's saying, but to me, it sounds like he's saying he thinks Kyle is good because Kyle is posting large amount but normally he doesn't. I don't think that Dr. Wilgy believes his read as written. If he thinks kyle is town, that doesn't feel like a real reason.

more fuel for the wilgy roast

kyle is defending himself from an argument of not posting enough, Kyle says it's typical. Wilgy says no it isn't Kyle posts a ton all the time. Wilgy thinks Kyle is sus for it. How is this challenging for you?

I see where I slipped up
I don't think Wilgy's read of kyle's meta are right, then? Kyles a middle to low poster till late game, at least from what I've seen. Anyone disagree with me on that?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:14 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:04 am

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:01 pm

Lies, Kyle is always supatown.

I don't understand this post, can you say it again pls?

Kyle's basically the no1 poster in every game I've seen him play. Keeping up levels of content on par with JJJ. His current play is very unlike him.

this is still kinda weird imo, Michelle. I see what he's saying, but to me, it sounds like he's saying he thinks Kyle is good because Kyle is posting large amount but normally he doesn't. I don't think that Dr. Wilgy believes his read as written. If he thinks kyle is town, that doesn't feel like a real reason.

kyle is defending himself from an argument of not posting enough, Kyle says it's typical. Wilgy says no it isn't Kyle posts a ton all the time. Wilgy thinks Kyle is sus for it. How is this challenging for you?

I see where I slipped up
I don't think Wilgy's read of kyle's meta are right, then? Kyles a middle to low poster till late game, at least from what I've seen. Anyone disagree with me on that?

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 pm @Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 pm @Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:17 pm @MacDougall Can you be my caretaker instead? I think Nut has shunned me.

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:19 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 pm @Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

this is my redemption arch

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:43 pm Cat's ISO with very surface level comments and a weak ass vote on Made is a no for me too actually.

Haven't looked into Falcon yet.

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Questionables:
Radish
112
Hyena

Nice people probably:
Made
Michelle
Martin

Town core goes mmmmmm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:28 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:19 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 pm @Timsup2nothin stop voting me

Why?

this is my redemption arch

Perfect. I will watch. I have the best seat in the house.

Our story so far, from what I've seen, has been you mostly latching onto anything that looked even remotely possible as something that might go over instead of you...and then not really having that "this is a wolf" fire and pushing. I think if I were writing your redemption arc you would have a very serious scum case put together and you would drop it about six hours to EoD and then push like an innocent man possessed. You want it peaking right about the time people who have been on and off your wagon would be getting back on.

It also needs to be a wolf, because if it isn't then it is more like a plot twist of false hope than a redemption arc.

We will use the working title Bring Me the Head of Wolfy McScumpants!!!

Good luck!

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:43 pm Cat's ISO with very surface level comments and a weak ass vote on Made is a no for me too actually.

Haven't looked into Falcon yet.

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Questionables:
Radish
112
Hyena

Nice people probably:
Made
Michelle
Martin

Town core goes mmmmmm

lol, what?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm EoD1 Wagon Reads Revised (for my own note taking)

Change log:
- moved Long Con to townreads
- moved Wilgy to scumreads
- moved TSP to scumreads

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Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:45 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:43 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:37 pm made said they thought they were scumread by thread consensus. this does not appear to correspond to reality

Not sure I agree with you. The number of people who have voted for Made at some point and then wandered off onto what I could uncharitably call "fad wagons" without any real clear "okay not Made" statement is pretty large. I'm not gonna push on them, but I would not be surprised if at EoD a lot of those people just remember they never had a real good reason when they got off the Made wagon and get back on. I can't bet because I'm in the thread and can theoretically make things happen, but if I were in spec chat I'd be handicapping Made as most likely chop of the day.

i agree with your assessment I'm asking why this is

My theory...when Mac laid the case on Cat it was really on Cat+Made. Cat flipping red for the most part just nailed Made, and if town had a night one vig we probably wouldn't have this problem. But day two just launched with chopping Made as the very likely outcome.

I myself would have been more or less fine with piling on Made and just bailing for 48 hours, but we know that's not realistic, towns gonna town. So cases come, and cases go, and the wagons mount up okay, but there's no real enthusiasm behind them because even people who don't want to say it are kinda just waiting to chop Made at EoD.

I'm mostly watching the wagons come and go looking for people who are consistently hard pushing any fad of the moment no matter how silly it should be for them, because if Made does flip red those are the people to look at next.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:51 pm YEET POOL:

KYLEMII
JACKOFHEARTS2005
FALCON45CA
MARTIN
NANOOK
DIZZY
MARMOT

imo

add long con

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm @Syn read on Nanook?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:34 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:18 pm EoD1 Wagon Reads Revised (for my own note taking)

Change log:
- moved Long Con to townreads
- moved Wilgy to scumreads
- moved TSP to scumreads

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Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

Cool
I had Marmot as v, can you give me details about your read?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm syn is lock town, spicy opinion tutuu also town? I also wrote down "thrall town" and i have no idea who that was but they've been autocorrecte dout of a town read

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm @Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm @Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Meet you half way on tim?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:56 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm So I return to Cat still being bork'd

A falcon rally happened and then there's Thunal slightly behind.

Voting Thunal. Lets see what happens.

I was going to do that vote before I read this post... so don't count my vote as reactionary to yours, or you will get false results.

Thank you LC. You had scum read me earlier and I had scum read you as well. How are you feeling about that now?

Ehhh, I don't like Wilgy's announcement that he's voting Thunal. I like LC's reaction though.
Moving Wilgy down to scum, moving LC up to town.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:05 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm tutuu swing at the ball

ooh spicy

@tutuu

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm syn is lock town, spicy opinion tutuu also town? I also wrote down "thrall town" and i have no idea who that was but they've been autocorrecte dout of a town read

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:07 pm @Alison give me the stealing one

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:05 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:02 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:00 pm I want to chop marmot as well

No one hopped onto Martin with us. That probably means something. I dunno what, but something.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Go forth, friend!

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Where are we going?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:39 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:56 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.

Out of the first group I can't but think it's LC. Like... Would it be detracting if I asked for people to vote LC and if not LC then yeet me?

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:38 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm @Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Meet you half way on tim?

yeah let's go

ur still dying tho

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:42 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:07 pm @Alison give me the stealing one

based on this. ping me if you have objections, or want to nominate more people for the pool