Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I would not like to see TSP get deleted here.

Syn could be double-voting here, thus making that the leading wagon and I firmly believe that TSP is town.

LC is likely town to me as well, but if I have to choose who dies here I would rather it be LC.

So you are covering TSP, and Epi is covering Kyle. Crappy to see the likely non-LC candidates getting fine patronages.

How about Jack?

LC tonereads to me as town, which means he's probably mafia actually

That's not how I operate, and never has been.

it's more about how i operate, i always read you backwards

[Marmot]

If he were "enforcing" the issue we would be seeing a mass claim and not only that but also a claim from himself as well, probably.

By enforcing I meant that:

TSP thought I hinted at tracking Epi and asked me to verify it. He could have accepted it and moved on, and I do think the townier play is to do that.

He simultaneously asked LC and Kyle to claim or he'd yeet them.

He also seemed surprised that Kyle would have a reason not to roleclaim.



These are examples of rolehunting that concern me.

I did move on? I haven’t asked you what your role is since

You did yes, but that doesn't negate those things.

[Kylemii]

I think it was Jack/Kyle too given that LC’s already claimed

what did lc claim

[Kylemii]

vanilla mint scented candle right

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don’t understand how

“TSP thought I hinted at tracking Epi and asked me to verify it. He could have accepted it and moved on, and I do think the townier play is to do that.”

Is a bad thing when I did in fact do the moving on which is ostensibly townier

[TonyStarkPrime]

vanilla mint scented candle right

Yeah

[MartinGG99]

I think it was Jack/Kyle too given that LC’s already claimed

But idk if we'll get 4 votes onto Jack. If that doesn't happen I'm moving back to LC to make sure you aren't deleted.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Holding off on Kyle for now though.

[Marmot]

If he were "enforcing" the issue we would be seeing a mass claim and not only that but also a claim from himself as well, probably.

By enforcing I meant that:

TSP thought I hinted at tracking Epi and asked me to verify it. He could have accepted it and moved on, and I do think the townier play is to do that.

He simultaneously asked LC and Kyle to claim or he'd yeet them.

He also seemed surprised that Kyle would have a reason not to roleclaim.



These are examples of rolehunting that concern me.

Well then, we have different standards of what we find to be acceptable.

I'll just leave it as that, even though I could elaborate on my opinions, since it seems to be a critical difference between us somewhere.

I also don't particularly trust your opinion on TSP, because I think you two could very well be teamed together.


But I'm willing to drop it for today.

[Gavial]

Yeah Marmot is def Town because Tony is wolf.

[MartinGG99]

Well, we could go back to Kyle with me and TSP, and reach 4 votes.

Epi wouldn't be happy about that.

[Kylemii]

Holding off on Kyle for now though.

i love u

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I would not like to see TSP get deleted here.

Syn could be double-voting here, thus making that the leading wagon and I firmly believe that TSP is town.

LC is likely town to me as well, but if I have to choose who dies here I would rather it be LC.

So you are covering TSP, and Epi is covering Kyle. Crappy to see the likely non-LC candidates getting fine patronages.

How about Jack?

LC tonereads to me as town, which means he's probably mafia actually

That's not how I operate, and never has been.

How ya feeling about Dom

I really thought his early game arguments were town Dom. It's my read, I hate to go back on it. But I would vote him to save my life.

[Kylemii]

Well, we could go back to Kyle with me and TSP, and reach 4 votes.

Epi wouldn't be happy about that.

.....

i love u only a little

[Gavial]

I personally think both Jack and Tony are scum but I’ll just stay on Tony because it’s my most confident read.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I also thought this about early game Dom

[MartinGG99]

Sigh. I hate this EoD. Especially if TSP gets deleted in which case I or Syn probably gets NK'ed

and there goes any hope of a town-core.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Gavial]

Well, we could go back to Kyle with me and TSP, and reach 4 votes.

Epi wouldn't be happy about that.

.....

i love u only a little

If you wanna vote Tony for Town Cred.
I’d say go for it!

[MartinGG99]

(Excluding Chop because he doesn't have the qualifications for such a prestigious position)

[Kylemii]

i'd possibly vote jack if i'm linked a case to read

[Urist]

jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

[Syn]

Sigh. I hate this EoD. Especially if TSP gets deleted in which case I or Syn probably gets NK'ed

and there goes any hope of a town-core.

why would I get NK'd

I'm useless here lol

[Marmot]

If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i'd possibly vote jack if i'm linked a case to read

Jack’s the most vanilla POE option

[Urist]

i'm just going based on the fact that wilgy was voting jack at eod1 and then died lel

[TonyStarkPrime]

If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.

:P

[Long Con]

jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

Because you'd miss me too much.

[MartinGG99]

jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

Jack isn't the slaver lol.

I got mech info that he isn't.

[Gavial]

I’ll be honest though I’m glad more attention is going to Jack.
Still think Tony is distancing though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Deadline is in 27 minutes. I will lock the thread the moment my clock strikes 7:01.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i'm just going based on the fact that wilgy was voting jack at eod1 and then died lel

Yeah I guess idk

[Long Con]

If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.

That was just to try and mess with wolves, maybe draw a nightkill.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Pretty much has to be the slaver kill at this point

[Kylemii]

Well, we could go back to Kyle with me and TSP, and reach 4 votes.

Epi wouldn't be happy about that.

.....

i love u only a little

If you wanna vote Tony for Town Cred.
I’d say go for it!

you've had like 36 hours to provide your end of the bargain we both agreed upon, which is to provide a reason you think tony is mafia, and you've just sort of not done it at all.

[TonyStarkPrime]

jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

Jack isn't the slaver lol.

I got mech info that he isn't.

Alright okay that was a fun detour

[MartinGG99]

Sigh. I hate this EoD. Especially if TSP gets deleted in which case I or Syn probably gets NK'ed

and there goes any hope of a town-core.

why would I get NK'd

I'm useless here lol

"I'm useless here"

Separately, you're a 2-shot limited doublevoter. You won't put up with much bullshit from the jet-wasted miners around Redding and will always put them in their places unless they all gang up on you. Twice during the game during any separate day phases, you may elect to double your vote. This will not function, however, if you are either tied for the poll lead or in second place.

[Marmot]

If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.

That was just to try and mess with wolves, maybe draw a nightkill.

I know, my point is that I doubt you're a PR because this does look like cover, and so you're either VT or wolf.

[Grogu]

Is there a separate game going on where marmot is mexh cleared somehow because seriously I’d love to know this

Grogu isn't playing any other games afaik.

I was in too many games. I am no longer in them, my inactivity has to do with my lack of care of time since I’m enjoying a much needed toxic vacation.

[Long Con]

Pretty much has to be the slaver kill at this point

Why can't it just be an Enclave kill?

[MartinGG99]

jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

Jack isn't the slaver lol.

I got mech info that he isn't.

Alright okay that was a fun detour

Wait, you were voting him because you thought he was slaver?

What about Enclave?

[Kylemii]

is there a vanilla wolf

[Gavial]

Well, we could go back to Kyle with me and TSP, and reach 4 votes.

Epi wouldn't be happy about that.

.....

i love u only a little

If you wanna vote Tony for Town Cred.
I’d say go for it!

you've had like 36 hours to provide your end of the bargain we both agreed upon, which is to provide a reason you think tony is mafia, and you've just sort of not done it at all.

I have serval times.
You just should read it.

[Syn]

Sigh. I hate this EoD. Especially if TSP gets deleted in which case I or Syn probably gets NK'ed

and there goes any hope of a town-core.

why would I get NK'd

I'm useless here lol

"I'm useless here"

Separately, you're a 2-shot limited doublevoter. You won't put up with much bullshit from the jet-wasted miners around Redding and will always put them in their places unless they all gang up on you. Twice during the game during any separate day phases, you may elect to double your vote. This will not function, however, if you are either tied for the poll lead or in second place.

again, why would I randomly burn a 2-vote on a random wagon when I have no idea what's happening and who's who

and i don't see how a 2-vote would be seen as the most dangerous thing to remove from the game here, anyway

[TonyStarkPrime]

Pretty much has to be the slaver kill at this point

Why can't it just be an Enclave kill?

Ok Enclave kills Wilgy (which is a big question mark already) and then enclave kill gets blocked and then Slaver kills Esooa works too

[Kylemii]

well, there's wolves with limited shots i guess

[Marmot]

is there a vanilla wolf

No, but the wolves have fakeclaims of town roles that no town player has.

[TonyStarkPrime]

is there a vanilla wolf

No

[Grogu]

By toxic I meant the opposite of a detox. I don’t know the English word

[Gavial]

Pretty much has to be the slaver kill at this point

Why can't it just be an Enclave kill?

Ok Enclave kills Wilgy (which is a big question mark already) and then enclave kill gets blocked and then Slaver kills Esooa works too

But who’d you kill N1?

[TonyStarkPrime]

jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

Jack isn't the slaver lol.

I got mech info that he isn't.

Alright okay that was a fun detour

Wait, you were voting him because you thought he was slaver?

What about Enclave?

No I didn’t think he was slaver and then Urist suggested he might have been and I spent about 1 minute pondering this